I just do not see this fight happening if Wilder is paid money to step aside to allow a Fury-Joshua fight to go ahead. It makes more sense for him to make phenomenal amounts of money for doing nothing.
Would Wilder prefer to fight Fury and risk losing again and never end up fighting Joshua or would he prefer to let Fury and Joshua battle it out and then fight the unified heavyweight champion instead? HE can get paid two huge sums of money, one for waiving his right to invoke the re-match and the second huge payment for a winner-takes-all-the-belts fight against the winner of the Fury-Joshua fight.
Topic: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 37. (Read 6673 times)
June 03, 2020, 03:28:46 AM
June 03, 2020, 02:50:02 AM
Both of the fighters have their fans and that cannot be denied.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
It would be difficult to predict this match results. The main reason for this is both of the boxers are equally matched and anyone of them can win on a certain date. I think the one who will be more lucky on the day will surely win this match.
Nah, even individuals who have little knowledge of boxing will have a high chance of winning on bets on this one. Even the poll here clearly states that Fury had the upper hand on the rematch and personally i don't have difficulty on picking. On the other hand, it may change in favor of Wilder but that's very slim that s why online bookies will give you high return if you bet on Wilder.
But still that does not grantee that Wilder will lose or Fury will win. Upsets does happen and therefore some people will put money on Wilder and in case he wins, the ROI will be very high as compare to fury. Also if fury is 100% predict to win, you will get very low ROI.
June 01, 2020, 05:36:37 PM
Both of the fighters have their fans and that cannot be denied.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
It would be difficult to predict this match results. The main reason for this is both of the boxers are equally matched and anyone of them can win on a certain date. I think the one who will be more lucky on the day will surely win this match.
Nah, even individuals who have little knowledge of boxing will have a high chance of winning on bets on this one. Even the poll here clearly states that Fury had the upper hand on the rematch and personally i don't have difficulty on picking. On the other hand, it may change in favor of Wilder but that's very slim that s why online bookies will give you high return if you bet on Wilder.
June 01, 2020, 09:35:30 AM
Both of the fighters have their fans and that cannot be denied.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
It would be difficult to predict this match results. The main reason for this is both of the boxers are equally matched and anyone of them can win on a certain date. I think the one who will be more lucky on the day will surely win this match.
June 01, 2020, 05:09:44 AM
The Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder trilogy fight may not take place in Las Vegas but somewhere else. Bob Arum is thinking that he could choose a country that the coronavirus is controlled like China or Australia. It is also a fact that this fight will take place in the fourth quarter of the year.
I honestly hoped that this fight would happen in Las Vegas because I wanted to see how the city and the state would show an economic reactivation but it seems that the pandemic takes away all possibilities.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/709349/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-china-australia-this-year/
I honestly hoped that this fight would happen in Las Vegas because I wanted to see how the city and the state would show an economic reactivation but it seems that the pandemic takes away all possibilities.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/709349/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-china-australia-this-year/
What's his purpose? Then why would he allow a fight this coming June in Vegas?
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/top-rank-boxing-schedule-bob-arum-sets-main-events-dates-for-six-fight-cards-in-june/
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After months with boxing almost entirely halted during the coronavirus pandemic, Top Rank and Bob Arum are ready to bring the sport back to Las Vegas. Arum made the official announcement of six planned events for June, with each event taking place with no fans in attendance, a similar plan to the UFC's recent events.
Maybe this is all about the money he can generate, if its in Vegas, he will only rely on the PPV but in China, people might come to the venue and watch and he can make money on the ticket sales aside from the PPV, he is really smart when it comes to selling the fight.
I wonder if he will still get a good profit on the fight scheduled this month in vegas.
May 31, 2020, 10:51:28 PM
The Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder trilogy fight may not take place in Las Vegas but somewhere else. Bob Arum is thinking that he could choose a country that the coronavirus is controlled like China or Australia. It is also a fact that this fight will take place in the fourth quarter of the year.
I honestly hoped that this fight would happen in Las Vegas because I wanted to see how the city and the state would show an economic reactivation but it seems that the pandemic takes away all possibilities.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/709349/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-china-australia-this-year/
I honestly hoped that this fight would happen in Las Vegas because I wanted to see how the city and the state would show an economic reactivation but it seems that the pandemic takes away all possibilities.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/709349/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-china-australia-this-year/
May 31, 2020, 05:24:28 PM
I'm reading all the replies but it seems that we have missed this one, Deontay Wilder reveals he underwent surgery for torn biceps following loss to Tyson Fury. Although we have heard about his ear injury, but this bicep torn was new to me.
I'm not an expert on sports medicine, but an injury on bicep specially for a boxer could really impact his performance. Although Wilder has a lot of time to recover because of the pandemic, we really don't know if this is going to heal. It's left bicep though, not his strong hand, but still mentally, he might be conscious of throwing that left hand. What do you guys think?
I'm not an expert on sports medicine, but an injury on bicep specially for a boxer could really impact his performance. Although Wilder has a lot of time to recover because of the pandemic, we really don't know if this is going to heal. It's left bicep though, not his strong hand, but still mentally, he might be conscious of throwing that left hand. What do you guys think?
Maybe Wilder really wanted to hide this from the media, most athletes do. But I do think that this is just minor injury though, if this is something like a head concussion and somewhat serious then yes, definitely it will have a bearing to the next fight. But as you have said, this is his off hand, his "weapon of mass destruction" is the right. If that is the torn bicep, then for sure we might see him losing some of his power. And he said that it is healing, so nothing to be concern here specially if you're a Wilder fan.
Fair enough, he doesn't throw that much left hand his lethal weapon is the right so in all likelihood, it could be just minor effect physically. And it could be correcting as we speak, as he can hire the best therapist out there to help him recover very fast in time for trilogy.
I doubt the rumours of the step aside money, pride and money are what's important for Wilder now. He really wanted to avenge his first lost and get back the belt.
May 31, 2020, 01:23:14 PM
The rumours are still doing the rounds about Wilder being offered money to waiver his right to invoke the re-match in order for Fury to fight Joshua instead with the winner then having a guaranteed fight with Wilder.
Let us see what happens about this in the future.
Joshua and Fury is the fight i wanted to watch but for any of these big fights to happen they need to have audience in the stadiums as these are big money fights and Bob Arum has already said that he is not planning to put up the fight until you can put audience in the stadium and that is the case with any big fights till the end of this year. Even the UFC who started putting fights will not put together a huge fight like Conor McGregor because they will miss out on the huge ticket sales.Let us see what happens about this in the future.
Lets see how the virus thing goes and then we will understand what changes the boxing promoters are planning to make.
May 31, 2020, 10:05:39 AM
The rumours are still doing the rounds about Wilder being offered money to waiver his right to invoke the re-match in order for Fury to fight Joshua instead with the winner then having a guaranteed fight with Wilder.
Let us see what happens about this in the future.
Let us see what happens about this in the future.
May 31, 2020, 09:52:59 AM
For now if the fight would happen in last quarter of this year then there still lots of time for healing or recovery.
There was already a fight that has been approved scheduled for next month in Vegas, so I guess we will see this fight soon as this is a big fight and people would want to see this while the world is still limited with little movement, big fight will certainly generate big number of PPV, so promoter will push this as soon as possible.
The problem is that every other major sporting event and stadium-type event will also be competing for venue space.
That means it's going to come down to who pays more to secure the slots. That's going to drive prices through the roof, and broadcasters and promoters might not be willing to pay the price to show the event ASAP.
I think we'll still see it this year, but probably not in the next three months or so—even if the restrictions are lifted.
Being a high profile match and the influence of the people behind, I'm sure it is easy for venues to get them priority if the fight happens in US soil. Arum shows that he can pull the plug just to be able to start boxing in this new normal situation, so I don't have doubts that he can do the same with Fury vs Wilder trilogy in US.
As for the left bicep torn injury, as per Wilder he is recovering, so I don't think that it is going to cause a lot of concern entering this fight.
May 31, 2020, 09:16:15 AM
For now if the fight would happen in last quarter of this year then there still lots of time for healing or recovery.
There was already a fight that has been approved scheduled for next month in Vegas, so I guess we will see this fight soon as this is a big fight and people would want to see this while the world is still limited with little movement, big fight will certainly generate big number of PPV, so promoter will push this as soon as possible.
The problem is that every other major sporting event and stadium-type event will also be competing for venue space.
That means it's going to come down to who pays more to secure the slots. That's going to drive prices through the roof, and broadcasters and promoters might not be willing to pay the price to show the event ASAP.
I think we'll still see it this year, but probably not in the next three months or so—even if the restrictions are lifted.
May 31, 2020, 08:58:33 AM
53 votes in the poll so far
45 vote for Fury
8 votes for Wilder
84.90% of all voters within the forum so far are going for a Fury win
Keep the votes coming in please !
45 vote for Fury
8 votes for Wilder
84.90% of all voters within the forum so far are going for a Fury win
Keep the votes coming in please !
May 31, 2020, 08:15:55 AM
For now if the fight would happen in last quarter of this year then there still lots of time for healing or recovery.
There was already a fight that was approve and scheduled for next month in Vegas, so I guess we will see this fight soon as this is a big fight and people would want to see this while the world is still limited with little movement, big fight will certainly generate big number of PPV, so promoter will push this as soon as possible.
May 30, 2020, 10:39:43 PM
I'm reading all the replies but it seems that we have missed this one, Deontay Wilder reveals he underwent surgery for torn biceps following loss to Tyson Fury. Although we have heard about his ear injury, but this bicep torn was new to me.
I'm not an expert on sports medicine, but an injury on bicep specially for a boxer could really impact his performance. Although Wilder has a lot of time to recover because of the pandemic, we really don't know if this is going to heal. It's left bicep though, not his strong hand, but still mentally, he might be conscious of throwing that left hand. What do you guys think?
I'm not an expert on sports medicine, but an injury on bicep specially for a boxer could really impact his performance. Although Wilder has a lot of time to recover because of the pandemic, we really don't know if this is going to heal. It's left bicep though, not his strong hand, but still mentally, he might be conscious of throwing that left hand. What do you guys think?
Maybe Wilder really wanted to hide this from the media, most athletes do. But I do think that this is just minor injury though, if this is something like a head concussion and somewhat serious then yes, definitely it will have a bearing to the next fight. But as you have said, this is his off hand, his "weapon of mass destruction" is the right. If that is the torn bicep, then for sure we might see him losing some of his power. And he said that it is healing, so nothing to be concern here specially if you're a Wilder fan.
It isnt really that a major one but this would surely talks on psychological thing because if you do know that you do have some injury then it cant really be avoided
for a boxer to think it on or do result into some hesitation.
Good thing that he do confirm that everything is just fine and he's still on recovery phase and as said this wont really affect on overall power yet we know on whats he's main hand weapon.
For now if the fight would happen in last quarter of this year then there still lots of time for healing or recovery.
May 30, 2020, 10:07:50 PM
I'm reading all the replies but it seems that we have missed this one, Deontay Wilder reveals he underwent surgery for torn biceps following loss to Tyson Fury. Although we have heard about his ear injury, but this bicep torn was new to me.
I'm not an expert on sports medicine, but an injury on bicep specially for a boxer could really impact his performance. Although Wilder has a lot of time to recover because of the pandemic, we really don't know if this is going to heal. It's left bicep though, not his strong hand, but still mentally, he might be conscious of throwing that left hand. What do you guys think?
I'm not an expert on sports medicine, but an injury on bicep specially for a boxer could really impact his performance. Although Wilder has a lot of time to recover because of the pandemic, we really don't know if this is going to heal. It's left bicep though, not his strong hand, but still mentally, he might be conscious of throwing that left hand. What do you guys think?
Maybe Wilder really wanted to hide this from the media, most athletes do. But I do think that this is just minor injury though, if this is something like a head concussion and somewhat serious then yes, definitely it will have a bearing to the next fight. But as you have said, this is his off hand, his "weapon of mass destruction" is the right. If that is the torn bicep, then for sure we might see him losing some of his power. And he said that it is healing, so nothing to be concern here specially if you're a Wilder fan.
May 30, 2020, 09:46:48 PM
I'm reading all the replies but it seems that we have missed this one, Deontay Wilder reveals he underwent surgery for torn biceps following loss to Tyson Fury. Although we have heard about his ear injury, but this bicep torn was new to me.
I'm not an expert on sports medicine, but an injury on bicep specially for a boxer could really impact his performance. Although Wilder has a lot of time to recover because of the pandemic, we really don't know if this is going to heal. It's left bicep though, not his strong hand, but still mentally, he might be conscious of throwing that left hand. What do you guys think?
I'm not an expert on sports medicine, but an injury on bicep specially for a boxer could really impact his performance. Although Wilder has a lot of time to recover because of the pandemic, we really don't know if this is going to heal. It's left bicep though, not his strong hand, but still mentally, he might be conscious of throwing that left hand. What do you guys think?
May 28, 2020, 08:59:21 AM
Both of the fighters have their fans and that cannot be denied.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
That's normal in sports, fans tend to choose the best boxer and this time it's Fury who is the best boxer, and even in this thread, it's very evident that Fury has a lot of fans here as a 44 posters believed he will win while only 8 believe on Wilder to win.
Fury won the second time and quite convincing, so why wouldn't he win this time? No matter who wins or looses, both boxers will earn again a lot of money
You can say he will win this time around but we never know, just bet on what you believe and I am sure you will still get a good odds even if Fury is the favorites here. Some fights outcome does not follow the previous fight result, so we better be ready of the outcome, let us not get disappointed if Wilder will win and take this to fight number 4.
Even though Fury won the second fight, it's not an assurance that he would overwhelm Wilder in their third fight.
THIS.. 2-1
May 28, 2020, 05:51:48 AM
Both of the fighters have their fans and that cannot be denied.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
Before he fought Fury in the first match Wilder was considered as one of the best. After the draw result in the first fight (which many including myself believe Fury won), people started to think he was going to get found out in the re-match and he did. Even fans of Wilder can be his fans yet concede his will probably end up losing to Fury again.
True, but after the first fight, many questions Wilder's ability to defeat Fury and majority of us see that Fury really won the first fight. It was very disputable, but the second fight prove what we have seen already. Wilder can't win against a very technical boxer in Fury, there is a question whether Wilder can adjust in the trilogy or perhaps not wear overweight custome or whatever, LOL. But the votes seems to be leaning for Tyson Fury in the trilogy so it's up for Wilder to bring his best in the third fight and see if he did some adjustment or not.
May 27, 2020, 04:59:39 PM
Fury won the second time and quite convincing, so why wouldn't he win this time? No matter who wins or looses, both boxers will earn again a lot of money
Even though Fury won the second fight, it's not an assurance that he would overwhelm Wilder in their third fight. He still needs to work and train very hard for the trilogy as nothing is easy in boxing. In the eyes of every fans, Fury is the favorite here because of the way the second fight ended but knowing Wilder is a knockout puncher and if he can land those bombs when needed then the tide would turn around to his favor.
Of course they earn bucks no matter what is the outcome of the fight but it's not all money for these top dogs in the heavyweight, it boils down to PRIDE
. May 27, 2020, 02:42:32 PM
Fury won the second time and quite convincing, so why wouldn't he win this time? No matter who wins or looses, both boxers will earn again a lot of money
It is hard to do math in combat sports, Wilder does have power to knock anyone out and if he is able to land one on Fury he is going to sleep, i do not expect Wilder out boxing Fury but a quick knockout is still possible, the money aspect is real as they will be making a lot of money but this is for legacy for the baddest heavyweight of this generation and if Fury wins this and then fight Anthony Joshua and if he wins that then Fury will be the baddest fighter of this generation without the shadow of a doubt. Jump to: