Topic: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 38. (Read 6747 times)

Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 25, 2020, 07:17:27 AM

That's probably the scenario if Wilder wins, so if Wilder wants more money, he need to train hard and win this one, a 4th one would be very interesting but it should be the last, unless the outcome will be a DRAW. Grin

Draw? No one knows but its unlikely to happen for a fight that do end up on 4th but if management do see that
they can milk out soo much money then why not? Cheesy

Draw is possible but with a little chance since Fury has already figured out how to beat Wilder, but remember it happened in the first fight, so I guess betting on the draw in this fight have some value. I think the odds was somewhere around 20 or 26.. it has been posted in the previous posts, I just can't remember who posted it.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 25, 2020, 10:54:44 PM

It's hard for him to adjust, all his fights that he had successfully won, he depends on his power, he does not have a lot of head movement like other boxer, he is a kind of boxer who likes to go forward and go for a kill in just one punch, unfortunately, Fury is just too powerful that he can't take for just one punch, in fact, we've seen Fury knock down 2 times IIRC in the first fight, but he came back the fight ended up a DRAW.

That one is indeed controversial but overall we can see on whose the real winner on that fight and it had been proven out on
2nd bout and now we go to the third which would really be a closing one in case.

In case Fury will win which a lot of us here believe it will happen.
Anyway, if a 4th fight will happen, then be it, these two are the most popular personalities in boxing sports, and if they keep fighting, they will also keep making money. Fury was really good in selling the fight, I was thinking he was just all talk but he also do the talking in the ring, and a lot of us was surprise that Wilder an undefeated will lose to Fury, so it's really time for Wilder to redeem, otherwise it will be the final fight series.

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Quote from: ene1980 on May 25, 2020, 12:49:51 PM

Quote from: ene1980 on May 25, 2020, 12:49:51 PM

I think the ball should be in the court of Wilder to perform and recapture his belt. He is the one who are going to adjust. Fury will still do the same, execute the same strategy, heavier and bigger, used his boxing skills, etc.

This is the funniest response i saw till now, in the second fight Fury changed his fighting style completely and Wilder does not know anything else other than waiting for the knockout punch and landing one. Are you telling me that Wilder will learn boxing while he is at the end of his career Tongue

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You said Fury adjusted, then why can't Wilder do the same, simple adjustment like more head movement, angles so that Fury will have a hard time hitting him in the face. Yes, maybe he will be having a hard time to re-adjust his fighting style. This is like a chess game, and one key for Wilder to win and be unpredictable.

Perhaps he was eager for a trilogy because he knows he did something wrong in the second fight, so we will see. If he losses in the same fashion and we didn't see any adjusted then say goodbye to his career.

@Yaunfitda there’s a big difference between what Fury did, and what you’re expecting Wilder to do at this stage of his career. Also if it’s pertinent to note that you’re not alone who wants Wilder to make drastic changes to his style, as Fury’s former trainer has also advised Wilder to land more punches if he wants to win, but he has also warned Wilder that if he gets exhausted Fury will once again beat him.

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Davison believes that Wilder will have to change his output and land more punches to be successful against Fury.
A precise shot from Wilder can knock anybody out. Increasing the volume will increase the probability of landing clean on the champion. But, as Davison pointed out, he should do it consistently. Otherwise, Fury will take over as Wilder fades. Also, Fury has more tools to win than Wilder.

Sources:

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-ben-davison-reveals-how-deontay-wilder-can-beat-tyson-fury/

https://www.essentiallysports.com/tyson-fury-made-one-crucial-change-to-steal-the-win-against-deontay-wilder-boxing-news/

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@JollyGood. The replies in here are similar to the replies since the ending of the fight hehehe. Can you change the poll to what fight do you want to have for Tyson Fury? The options clearly being Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder hehehe.

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I think the ball should be in the court of Wilder to perform and recapture his belt. He is the one who are going to adjust. Fury will still do the same, execute the same strategy, heavier and bigger, used his boxing skills, etc.

This is the funniest response i saw till now, in the second fight Fury changed his fighting style completely and Wilder does not know anything else other than waiting for the knockout punch and landing one. Are you telling me that Wilder will learn boxing while he is at the end of his career Tongue

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You said Fury adjusted, then why can't Wilder do the same, simple adjustment like more head movement, angles so that Fury will have a hard time hitting him in the face. Yes, maybe he will be having a hard time to re-adjust his fighting style. This is like a chess game, and one key for Wilder to win and be unpredictable.

Perhaps he was eager for a trilogy because he knows he did something wrong in the second fight, so we will see. If he losses in the same fashion and we didn't see any adjusted then say goodbye to his career.

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I think the ball should be in the court of Wilder to perform and recapture his belt. He is the one who are going to adjust. Fury will still do the same, execute the same strategy, heavier and bigger, used his boxing skills, etc.

This is the funniest response i saw till now, in the second fight Fury changed his fighting style completely and Wilder does not know anything else other than waiting for the knockout punch and landing one. Are you telling me that Wilder will learn boxing while he is at the end of his career Tongue

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Rematch clause is there for a reason, to make more money for them. Definitely, boxing fans wanted to see more action between the two so if there will be a fourth fight, expect it to sell and bring fans to the arena.

You can do something for a certain amount of time but if you overdo something then the interest will die off eventually. After seeing two fights and how Fury dominated in majority of the fight and how one sided the second fight was the third fight should be the final showdown.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 24, 2020, 04:54:21 AM

Fury did an interview with Sky Sports on on the 22nd and in it he was asked about future fights, and in it he alluded that if he loses he'll be fighting Wilder again before anyone else and could keep going on and on, so it looks like he will have the rematch clause: https://youtu.be/MgGgUFRy5N4?t=212

If he does lose and they have a rematch they should just sign a deal that it's the last fight with no rematches as it could get ridiculous. I don't think they should go past a trilogy but I guess if Fury does lose then he will want the rematch.

So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight. He needs to perform even better in this trilogy so that there will be no doubts as to who really is the greatest in this generation. And this is what fans wanted to see and still going to watch even if the price is ridiculous because of the pandemic.

I think the ball should be in the court of Wilder to perform and recapture his belt. He is the one who are going to adjust. Fury will still do the same, execute the same strategy, heavier and bigger, used his boxing skills, etc.

Rematch clause is there for a reason, to make more money for them. Definitely, boxing fans wanted to see more action between the two so if there will be a fourth fight, expect it to sell and bring fans to the arena.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 24, 2020, 06:53:34 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on May 24, 2020, 06:26:00 AM

November is too far away and i don't think we have anything more to discuss about this fight at the moment. The fight final date will only be confirmed seeing the world covid 19 situation at that particular time. We can't assume anything as of now.

Wait if there's a boxing event that would happen next month.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/05/21/boxing-set-for-june-9-return-in-las-vegas/

Bob Arum, the famous promoter is on a big mission as he plans to set a boxing event next month, if that will be positive, then we can expect that this fight will happen soon.

Nothing will be more better than this if we could witness live boxing next month. However if it is approved by Nevada Athletic Commission, it will still be without the crowd and players will have to undergo the covid 19 clearance test.

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That's probably the scenario if Wilder wins, so if Wilder wants more money, he need to train hard and win this one, a 4th one would be very interesting but it should be the last, unless the outcome will be a DRAW. Grin

Draw? No one knows but its unlikely to happen for a fight that do end up on 4th but if management do see that
they can milk out soo much money then why not? Cheesy

Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 24, 2020, 06:24:20 PM

It's hard for him to adjust, all his fights that he had successfully won, he depends on his power, he does not have a lot of head movement like other boxer, he is a kind of boxer who likes to go forward and go for a kill in just one punch, unfortunately, Fury is just too powerful that he can't take for just one punch, in fact, we've seen Fury knock down 2 times IIRC in the first fight, but he came back the fight ended up a DRAW.

That one is indeed controversial but overall we can see on whose the real winner on that fight and it had been proven out on
2nd bout and now we go to the third which would really be a closing one in case.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 24, 2020, 06:24:20 PM

So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight.

It's not for him because even if he will lose in this fight and there's a another fight that is going to happen, people will still watch and both of them will certainly still make a good paycheck.

However, for fans, we don't want to see another fight, we like Fury to win.

It would really need to be closed just like any other great fights that we have seen that last upto trilogy.
This fight will surely prove out on whose a better fighter between the two but if wilder won this time then expect for
4th fight. Grin

That's probably the scenario if Wilder wins, so if Wilder wants more money, he need to train hard and win this one, a 4th one would be very interesting but it should be the last, unless the outcome will be a DRAW. Grin

He needs to perform even better in this trilogy so that there will be no doubts as to who really is the greatest in this generation. And this is what fans wanted to see and still going to watch even if the price is ridiculous because of the pandemic.

Fans does not seem to care of the price at the moment since we only spend on limited things, so we still get the best deal to entertain ourselves.
The last fight was entertaining especially for the Fury fans but this time around Wilder fans are looking forward a flip of the result they saw last time, a knockout win would be a great bounce back from his last performance.

Theres always a chance but if Wilder would really have some adjustment on tactics and not just depending on raw power on
their next match.When it comes to body movement then fury do have it in spite of its shape and he should really have that
kind of versatility too.We know on what he's capable of but i would always bet for Fury on this fight again.

It's hard for him to adjust, all his fights that he had successfully won, he depends on his power, he does not have a lot of head movement like other boxer, he is a kind of boxer who likes to go forward and go for a kill in just one punch, unfortunately, Fury is just too powerful that he can't take for just one punch, in fact, we've seen Fury knock down 2 times IIRC in the first fight, but he came back the fight ended up a DRAW.

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So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight.

It's not for him because even if he will lose in this fight and there's a another fight that is going to happen, people will still watch and both of them will certainly still make a good paycheck.

However, for fans, we don't want to see another fight, we like Fury to win.

It would really need to be closed just like any other great fights that we have seen that last upto trilogy.
This fight will surely prove out on whose a better fighter between the two but if wilder won this time then expect for
4th fight. Grin

He needs to perform even better in this trilogy so that there will be no doubts as to who really is the greatest in this generation. And this is what fans wanted to see and still going to watch even if the price is ridiculous because of the pandemic.

Fans does not seem to care of the price at the moment since we only spend on limited things, so we still get the best deal to entertain ourselves.
The last fight was entertaining especially for the Fury fans but this time around Wilder fans are looking forward a flip of the result they saw last time, a knockout win would be a great bounce back from his last performance.

Theres always a chance but if Wilder would really have some adjustment on tactics and not just depending on raw power on
their next match.When it comes to body movement then fury do have it in spite of its shape and he should really have that
kind of versatility too.We know on what he's capable of but i would always bet for Fury on this fight again.

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So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight.

It's not for him because even if he will lose in this fight and there's a another fight that is going to happen, people will still watch and both of them will certainly still make a good paycheck.

However, for fans, we don't want to see another fight, we like Fury to win.