[Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title - page 7.

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I don't know the reason why he said he has an injury if he will not disclose it. If he will still fight despite the undisclosed injury, then he cannot make it as an excuse if he lose, or does he prepare it already as an excuse if he loses in the fight? Nowdays, it's hard to trust because sometimes they are using an "injury" as an excuse for the fight to be postpone or worst to be cancelled.

The chance that odds will be changed after this revelation, I don't know if bookies will buy this reason or it can also be a trapped.

But you are right, why bother to tell this one into the public if doesn't like to reveal his real condition, either its or excuse this fight should continue.

Lots of fans are waiting and hoping to see Magsayo to win, even there's a slight excuse from Russell's camp probably it will still benefit Magsayo

if he wins this one. Wink

I check the odds out of curiosity, and it seems like the odds remain the same. In my bookie, Magsayo is still 3.90 and that was even higher than before which I think was 3.80. Well, maybe this news is not verified or bookies does not believe that it will change the chances of Magsayo to win.

That's a good odds for Magsayo, he has a great chance to win via upset, so whatever Rusell are saying, whether good or bad for him, it doesn't matter, what matters is Magsayo is fully healthy and willing to give everything in this championship fight.

Everyone who is a fan of him will take that odds, it's almost a gift.

IMO, Magsayo is underrated, I mean he is good, he has knockout power and yet the bookies are not believing in him. That 3.90 odd shows they don't think he will win by upset, but we believers will take it because as I said, it's a gift.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 20, 2022, 01:02:38 AM

I don't know the reason why he said he has an injury if he will not disclose it. If he will still fight despite the undisclosed injury, then he cannot make it as an excuse if he lose, or does he prepare it already as an excuse if he loses in the fight? Nowdays, it's hard to trust because sometimes they are using an "injury" as an excuse for the fight to be postpone or worst to be cancelled.

The chance that odds will be changed after this revelation, I don't know if bookies will buy this reason or it can also be a trapped.

But you are right, why bother to tell this one into the public if doesn't like to reveal his real condition, either its or excuse this fight should continue.

Lots of fans are waiting and hoping to see Magsayo to win, even there's a slight excuse from Russell's camp probably it will still benefit Magsayo

if he wins this one. Wink

I check the odds out of curiosity, and it seems like the odds remain the same. In my bookie, Magsayo is still 3.90 and that was even higher than before which I think was 3.80. Well, maybe this news is not verified or bookies does not believe that it will change the chances of Magsayo to win.

That's a good odds for Magsayo, he has a great chance to win via upset, so whatever Rusell are saying, whether good or bad for him, it doesn't matter, what matters is Magsayo is fully healthy and willing to give everything in this championship fight.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 20, 2022, 01:02:38 AM

I don't know the reason why he said he has an injury if he will not disclose it. If he will still fight despite the undisclosed injury, then he cannot make it as an excuse if he lose, or does he prepare it already as an excuse if he loses in the fight? Nowdays, it's hard to trust because sometimes they are using an "injury" as an excuse for the fight to be postpone or worst to be cancelled.

The chance that odds will be changed after this revelation, I don't know if bookies will buy this reason or it can also be a trapped.

But you are right, why bother to tell this one into the public if doesn't like to reveal his real condition, either its or excuse this fight should continue.

Lots of fans are waiting and hoping to see Magsayo to win, even there's a slight excuse from Russell's camp probably it will still benefit Magsayo

if he wins this one. Wink

I check the odds out of curiosity, and it seems like the odds remain the same. In my bookie, Magsayo is still 3.90 and that was even higher than before which I think was 3.80. Well, maybe this news is not verified or bookies does not believe that it will change the chances of Magsayo to win.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 20, 2022, 01:02:38 AM

I don't know the reason why he said he has an injury if he will not disclose it. If he will still fight despite the undisclosed injury, then he cannot make it as an excuse if he lose, or does he prepare it already as an excuse if he loses in the fight? Nowdays, it's hard to trust because sometimes they are using an "injury" as an excuse for the fight to be postpone or worst to be cancelled.

The chance that odds will be changed after this revelation, I don't know if bookies will buy this reason or it can also be a trapped.

But you are right, why bother to tell this one into the public if doesn't like to reveal his real condition, either its or excuse this fight should continue.

Lots of fans are waiting and hoping to see Magsayo to win, even there's a slight excuse from Russell's camp probably it will still benefit Magsayo

if he wins this one. Wink

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It seems that Russell has injury going into the fight:

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The long-reigning WBC featherweight champion revealed during an appearance Wednesday on “The DAZN Boxing Show” that he is suffering from “a little slight injury” that he declined to disclose. Russell will end almost a two-year layoff on Saturday night and already has dealt with the foot amputation that has prevented his father, who is his longtime trainer, from properly helping him prepare for this fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gary-russell-i-little-slight-injury-elaborate-magsayo-fight--163547

So physically and mentally Russell is on a turmoil, not saying that he is going to lose, he doesn't want to disclose his injury but Magsayo might take advantage of it, maybe it was a shoulder injury or something so we have to look at how the fight might turn out. Maybe he won't be as fast as before because of the undisclosed injury. So Magsayo will have to take advantage of it.

I don't know the reason why he said he has an injury if he will not disclose it. If he will still fight despite the undisclosed injury, then he cannot make it as an excuse if he lose, or does he prepare it already as an excuse if he loses in the fight? Nowdays, it's hard to trust because sometimes they are using an "injury" as an excuse for the fight to be postpone or worst to be cancelled.

Spot on bro, this is also what I'm thinking, he is already making an excuse even before the fight.

We remember Loma vs Lopez, Loma is injured but he didn't tell the public about it until the fight is over and he eventually loses it. Just imagine if he has done the same, telling us that he is injured but not telling us, LOL.

In any case, a win is a win if ever Magsayo pull the biggest upset in this division right now.

Let's see if there will be swing bet in favor of Magsayo now since this revelation from Russell.

Russell better not fight if he has an injury, it's not good for his reputation or for Magsayo if he wins because people will think that Magsayo only won because he fought an injured champion. Russell should stop playing a game, be a man and make a decision with no excuses at all.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 20, 2022, 01:02:38 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on January 20, 2022, 12:52:30 AM

It seems that Russell has injury going into the fight:

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The long-reigning WBC featherweight champion revealed during an appearance Wednesday on “The DAZN Boxing Show” that he is suffering from “a little slight injury” that he declined to disclose. Russell will end almost a two-year layoff on Saturday night and already has dealt with the foot amputation that has prevented his father, who is his longtime trainer, from properly helping him prepare for this fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gary-russell-i-little-slight-injury-elaborate-magsayo-fight--163547

So physically and mentally Russell is on a turmoil, not saying that he is going to lose, he doesn't want to disclose his injury but Magsayo might take advantage of it, maybe it was a shoulder injury or something so we have to look at how the fight might turn out. Maybe he won't be as fast as before because of the undisclosed injury. So Magsayo will have to take advantage of it.

I don't know the reason why he said he has an injury if he will not disclose it. If he will still fight despite the undisclosed injury, then he cannot make it as an excuse if he lose, or does he prepare it already as an excuse if he loses in the fight? Nowdays, it's hard to trust because sometimes they are using an "injury" as an excuse for the fight to be postpone or worst to be cancelled.

Spot on bro, this is also what I'm thinking, he is already making an excuse even before the fight.

We remember Loma vs Lopez, Loma is injured but he didn't tell the public about it until the fight is over and he eventually loses it. Just imagine if he has done the same, telling us that he is injured but not telling us, LOL.

In any case, a win is a win if ever Magsayo pull the biggest upset in this division right now.

Let's see if there will be swing bet in favor of Magsayo now since this revelation from Russell.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 20, 2022, 12:52:30 AM

It seems that Russell has injury going into the fight:

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The long-reigning WBC featherweight champion revealed during an appearance Wednesday on “The DAZN Boxing Show” that he is suffering from “a little slight injury” that he declined to disclose. Russell will end almost a two-year layoff on Saturday night and already has dealt with the foot amputation that has prevented his father, who is his longtime trainer, from properly helping him prepare for this fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gary-russell-i-little-slight-injury-elaborate-magsayo-fight--163547

So physically and mentally Russell is on a turmoil, not saying that he is going to lose, he doesn't want to disclose his injury but Magsayo might take advantage of it, maybe it was a shoulder injury or something so we have to look at how the fight might turn out. Maybe he won't be as fast as before because of the undisclosed injury. So Magsayo will have to take advantage of it.

I don't know the reason why he said he has an injury if he will not disclose it. If he will still fight despite the undisclosed injury, then he cannot make it as an excuse if he lose, or does he prepare it already as an excuse if he loses in the fight? Nowdays, it's hard to trust because sometimes they are using an "injury" as an excuse for the fight to be postpone or worst to be cancelled.

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It seems that Russell has injury going into the fight:

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The long-reigning WBC featherweight champion revealed during an appearance Wednesday on “The DAZN Boxing Show” that he is suffering from “a little slight injury” that he declined to disclose. Russell will end almost a two-year layoff on Saturday night and already has dealt with the foot amputation that has prevented his father, who is his longtime trainer, from properly helping him prepare for this fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gary-russell-i-little-slight-injury-elaborate-magsayo-fight--163547

So physically and mentally Russell is on a turmoil, not saying that he is going to lose, he doesn't want to disclose his injury but Magsayo might take advantage of it, maybe it was a shoulder injury or something so we have to look at how the fight might turn out. Maybe he won't be as fast as before because of the undisclosed injury. So Magsayo will have to take advantage of it.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 19, 2022, 04:27:56 PM

If Magsayo could pulled off this one then this could be the start where he can receive luxurious offer in the future.

Not that luxurious as they say.

But it's really going to be his start to stardom and there could be more opportunity once he pulls this off. He just need to show how strong he is and as much as he can, he wins this match against Russell.

Quote from: agustina2 on January 16, 2022, 06:48:14 PM

Too dangerous for Magsayo if the fight will end up on Decision. Magsayo should try everything to go for a KO win.

I guess he has a plan on ending it and as what you guys are speculating about him prolonging the fight. His team are anticipating like this already as they're all analyzing each of the fighters that Magsayo is going to face.

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See those quick punches by Magsayo on his last fight that leads to knocking out his opponent? I want that same speed to see against Russell.

But Russell already faces some boxers even much higher skills compare to Magsayo. I really doubt that Russell will end up in a KO.

Too dangerous for Magsayo if the fight will end up on Decision. Magsayo should try everything to go for a KO win.

Magsayo might want to be careful if he's aiming to end the game with a KO because that's where most of the boxers stumbles, especially now that he's facing an opponent who is quick and has the power punch.
They actually have some similarities on fighting style. They could brawl and counter punch at the same time. I was even thinking this fight is gonna be a very exciting match to watch.

Now, I guess knocking out Russell isn't easy for Magsayo.

Russell is indeed a very good boxer as well, so no doubt this is not an easy fight for Magsayo. If he will not make clear punches or actions inside the ring, Russell has a very good chance to retain the belt. Few days from now and we will witness the rumble. I hope there's no last minute pull out or issue here.

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Quote from: agustina2 on January 16, 2022, 06:48:14 PM

See those quick punches by Magsayo on his last fight that leads to knocking out his opponent? I want that same speed to see against Russell.

But Russell already faces some boxers even much higher skills compare to Magsayo. I really doubt that Russell will end up in a KO.

Too dangerous for Magsayo if the fight will end up on Decision. Magsayo should try everything to go for a KO win.

Magsayo might want to be careful if he's aiming to end the game with a KO because that's where most of the boxers stumbles, especially now that he's facing an opponent who is quick and has the power punch.
They actually have some similarities on fighting style. They could brawl and counter punch at the same time. I was even thinking this fight is gonna be a very exciting match to watch.

Now, I guess knocking out Russell isn't easy for Magsayo.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 19, 2022, 03:18:40 AM

His value will be more expensive, and like what happened to Pacquiao and Donaire promoters will give him a huge fortune if
he can bring more good fights in his current division.

If Magsayo could pulled off this one then this could be the start where he can receive luxurious offer in the future.

One thing is for sure, this is not going to be a walk in the park for the Filipino pug but with the determination and hunger factor are there that help him motivate and take that belt from Russell.

Below are some of the options on how to bet for this match, very tempting for either side because if you are a Russell fan, that 1.85 odds for a decision win is attractive enough specially if you are a whale.

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Quote from: agustina2 on January 16, 2022, 06:48:14 PM

See those quick punches by Magsayo on his last fight that leads to knocking out his opponent? I want that same speed to see against Russell.

But Russell already faces some boxers even much higher skills compare to Magsayo. I really doubt that Russell will end up in a KO.

Too dangerous for Magsayo if the fight will end up on Decision. Magsayo should try everything to go for a KO win.

That should always be the goal of any challenger, if they cannot defeat the current champion in a way that leaves no doubt who is the best then it is going to be very difficult to win when the judges are the ones that have to make a decision, as they have the tendency to give 50/50 rounds to the champion, the only exception to this is that even if he does not KO Russell he dominates the fight so completely that the judges are not compelled to do that, but that is even more difficult than just getting the KO.

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Honestly, what I like the most about Magsayo is that he is from the Philippines, and I have seen a lot about that beautiful country, its culture and its people, in addition to the fact that it has great athletes and above all boxers, of the stature of Pacquiao that in reality every fight I enjoyed it a lot, because for me he is a great boxing master. And well, taking into account that grain of preference, one can choose him, this thinking on a sentimental basis and almost with the heart, although many times this type of boxer has his dream so clear that only that makes him win.

That last statement most of the time value each fight coming from pilipino fighters.

The heart that they are bringing from every opportunity that being open for them, this is a title fight that Magsayo will try
to win. If he does, the momentum in his career will be hyped up.

His value will be more expensive, and like what happened to Pacquiao and Donaire promoters will give him a huge fortune if
he can bring more good fights in his current division.

And that will start by winning this fight which is the biggest fight of his life. Becoming a world champion is not easy, which means if you are a champion, you are the best already and you have to fight every opponent that will be thrown at you or will challenge you. In the case of Magsayo, he is not yet a mature fighter, I can see some weakness in him based on his fight, but if he will work hard to improve, then his chances to upset the champion will increase.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 18, 2022, 04:27:48 PM

Honestly, what I like the most about Magsayo is that he is from the Philippines, and I have seen a lot about that beautiful country, its culture and its people, in addition to the fact that it has great athletes and above all boxers, of the stature of Pacquiao that in reality every fight I enjoyed it a lot, because for me he is a great boxing master. And well, taking into account that grain of preference, one can choose him, this thinking on a sentimental basis and almost with the heart, although many times this type of boxer has his dream so clear that only that makes him win.

That last statement most of the time value each fight coming from pilipino fighters.

The heart that they are bringing from every opportunity that being open for them, this is a title fight that Magsayo will try
to win. If he does, the momentum in his career will be hyped up.

His value will be more expensive, and like what happened to Pacquiao and Donaire promoters will give him a huge fortune if
he can bring more good fights in his current division.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 17, 2022, 09:52:40 PM

Magsayo's recent interview:

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“I learned a lot from that fight,” Magsayo admitted during a recent Zoom media conference call to otherwise discuss the fight with Russell. “I learned a lesson how to better box. I made an adjustment in the middle of the fight and knocked him out.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/magsayo-learned-lot-from-ceja-fight-i-win-fight-gary-russell--163491

Talking about his last fight with Ceja, wherein he was behind the judges scorecard so he needs to come back and win it by KO which he eventually scored that's why he is not facing Ceja.

And he told the media that he has learned a lot from that match and that he should really engage early and not let the fight slip, specially that he is facing a great champion in Russell. So he needs to be focus and concentrate from the opening bell.

That's the way to go if he want to win this very important fight of his career. He can't be too complacent and just rely on that power punch in the later rounds.

Good thing that coach Freddie Roach will be in his corner so i think he has advised his ward on what to to do.

Other options on how to bet for this fight are already out. What attract me most is the "Magsayo by KO @8.80", i think that is very tempting odds for those who wants to bet even just a little.

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My vote goes to Russell because He is the Champion one and Magsayo B-side in the fight. I think he is favourite in sports bookies.Coz The Champion is always in favourite list.Russell is definitely greatest boxer and his capabilities much more. Russell is favourite for everyone.

Well, although it is known that the statistics in boxing are difficult to fall, I have seen in the networks that there are many favoring Russel, but Magsayo is not painted on the wall, he has a lot of technique, also particularly when seeing Magsayo's physique It is seen that he is very strong and resistant, I do not think that Russel will have it so easy, I have seen some comments on YouTube that Russel can give Magsayo a KO and I do not think so much, but if we could talk that both boxers could have equality of conditions in the physical, which would complicate everything for Russel. Being a little more cautious, I would not trust Russel much, I would not be so 100% sure, of course it is my perception.

Russell is not a KO artist for me, 31 wins and 18 of them are from KO. Well, maybe he is strong but Magsayo is also strong and hungry for a win. A boxer who is very active and chasing his dream, it's worth betting for because he will certainly give everything to win, and if he fails, at least we will not regret as we support our Filipino boxers for his campaign to be a champion.

Honestly, what I like the most about Magsayo is that he is from the Philippines, and I have seen a lot about that beautiful country, its culture and its people, in addition to the fact that it has great athletes and above all boxers, of the stature of Pacquiao that in reality every fight I enjoyed it a lot, because for me he is a great boxing master. And well, taking into account that grain of preference, one can choose him, this thinking on a sentimental basis and almost with the heart, although many times this type of boxer has his dream so clear that only that makes him win.

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Quote from: cabron on January 17, 2022, 11:21:52 PM

Tried watching the fights of Mark Magsayo, I can say he doesn't have the one-punch knock-out strength like the champ Russell. The fight is close to unifying WBO and WBC featherweight and Russel who is considered to have the fastest hand and can deliver a counter punch will likely win over Magsayo. This is just what the sportsbook is saying which they have the Russell Gary 1.22.

Good luck to us this weekend. If I only have $5 to bet, I'd go for Magsayo, we'll never know if an upset can happen. This is the 6th time Russel is defending this title, he must be tired and wants to go up to fight Crawford.

Magsayo has a knockout punch so there's a possibility of an upset, in one of the news conferences Russell noted that Magsayo did have a knock out power but none of this matters if he cannot hit the target, Russell is fast furious he overwhelms his opponents with a flurry of punches, I also read one local analyst that some of Magsayo's past opponents are cherry-picked for him by his promoters and the Ceja fight is his biggest fight to date, he will have his hands full against Russell, I'm also hoping for an upset just like what Magsato did to Ceja.

I'd love when the champion is trying to underestimate his opponnent. Yes, Russell is good but he should not underestimate Magsayo because they are both professionals and Magsayo continues to train and improve, in fact, he is still an undefeated fighter until now, Russell should take note of that.

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Quote from: cabron on January 17, 2022, 11:21:52 PM

Tried watching the fights of Mark Magsayo, I can say he doesn't have the one-punch knock-out strength like the champ Russell. The fight is close to unifying WBO and WBC featherweight and Russel who is considered to have the fastest hand and can deliver a counter punch will likely win over Magsayo. This is just what the sportsbook is saying which they have the Russell Gary 1.22.

Good luck to us this weekend. If I only have $5 to bet, I'd go for Magsayo, we'll never know if an upset can happen. This is the 6th time Russel is defending this title, he must be tired and wants to go up to fight Crawford.

Magsayo has a knockout punch so there's a possibility of an upset, in one of the news conferences Russell noted that Magsayo did have a knock out power but none of this matters if he cannot hit the target, Russell is fast furious he overwhelms his opponents with a flurry of punches, I also read one local analyst that some of Magsayo's past opponents are cherry-picked for him by his promoters and the Ceja fight is his biggest fight to date, he will have his hands full against Russell, I'm also hoping for an upset just like what Magsato did to Ceja.

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Quote from: cabron on January 17, 2022, 11:21:52 PM

Tried watching the fights of Mark Magsayo, I can say he doesn't have the one-punch knock-out strength like the champ Russell. The fight is close to unifying WBO and WBC featherweight and Russel who is considered to have the fastest hand and can deliver a counter punch will likely win over Magsayo. This is just what the sportsbook is saying which they have the Russell Gary 1.22.

Yes, that's one advantage of Russell is that he possesses one of the fastest hand in boxing right now and probably in this division that's why he was able to maintain his top position and his only lost is to Loma. For fans of Magsayo though, doesn't matter what will be the odds, they are going to bet on him specially he is the underdog here.

Quote from: cabron on January 17, 2022, 11:21:52 PM

Good luck to us this weekend. If I only have $5 to bet, I'd go for Magsayo, we'll never know if an upset can happen. This is the 6th time Russel is defending this title, he must be tired and wants to go up to fight Crawford.

Crawford is 147 lbs, so that's a huge jump for Russell if that his is goal. So I doubt that he looks for Crawford at this point as it is better for him to fight the 130 lbs first.

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