Tried watching the fights of Mark Magsayo, I can say he doesn't have the one-punch knock-out strength like the champ Russell. The fight is close to unifying WBO and WBC featherweight and Russel who is considered to have the fastest hand and can deliver a counter punch will likely win over Magsayo. This is just what the sportsbook is saying which they have the Russell Gary 1.22.
Good luck to us this weekend. If I only have $5 to bet, I'd go for Magsayo, we'll never know if an upset can happen. This is the 6th time Russel is defending this title, he must be tired and wants to go up to fight Crawford.
Topic: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title - page 8. (Read 1794 times)
January 18, 2022, 12:21:52 AM
January 17, 2022, 11:12:14 PM
^^ Good if he really learns his lesson from that fight because it really looks worst for him. As he was also drop in that fight, and so he can't really allow Russell to take over as the chances to score a knock out against him will be very slim. But he can try as you have said from the beginning of round 1 so that he will not have to chase for that big knock out late in the fight to score a win.
January 17, 2022, 10:52:40 PM
Magsayo's recent interview:
https://www.boxingscene.com/magsayo-learned-lot-from-ceja-fight-i-win-fight-gary-russell--163491
Talking about his last fight with Ceja, wherein he was behind the judges scorecard so he needs to come back and win it by KO which he eventually scored that's why he is not facing Ceja.
And he told the media that he has learned a lot from that match and that he should really engage early and not let the fight slip, specially that he is facing a great champion in Russell. So he needs to be focus and concentrate from the opening bell.
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“I learned a lot from that fight,” Magsayo admitted during a recent Zoom media conference call to otherwise discuss the fight with Russell. “I learned a lesson how to better box. I made an adjustment in the middle of the fight and knocked him out.”
https://www.boxingscene.com/magsayo-learned-lot-from-ceja-fight-i-win-fight-gary-russell--163491
Talking about his last fight with Ceja, wherein he was behind the judges scorecard so he needs to come back and win it by KO which he eventually scored that's why he is not facing Ceja.
And he told the media that he has learned a lot from that match and that he should really engage early and not let the fight slip, specially that he is facing a great champion in Russell. So he needs to be focus and concentrate from the opening bell.
January 17, 2022, 07:59:21 PM
few days and we will witness the making of magsayo here, if he wins on this fight. bookies are with russell here. but am seeing a lot of bettors in the forum are betting on magsayo because of the good odds.
I'm one of those. It's a difficult challenge for Magsayo to get the title from Russell but I will put some money on him to win the fight. That 1.2 odds for Russell really downgrade our Magsayo lol. They don't consider Magsayo's quickness and agility that can be an advantage to Russell. That's how dominant Gay Russell is in the eyes of sports bookies.
Anyone knows some usual streaming channel or platform that will probably cover the live match on Saturday (or Sunday because of a day ahead)?
January 17, 2022, 07:39:48 PM
Well, Magsayo is the challenger, he should be the aggressive, he cannot win if he cannot convince the judges but the better way to convince them is to KO Rusell, that's hard to do but it's possible if he study his opponent and train hard for this fight.
Judges would always favor the champion if the challenger is not aggressive enough unless it's pretty obvious that he boxes out the champion which we only see in rare cases. Since Magsayo is a knockout puncher, I expect a knockout in this fight, hopefully the champion will be the recipient of the KO punch.
I'm also expecting a KnockOut win, of course by our own Magsayo but Gary Russell is a tough one. We might see Magsayo dominating his previous opponents with that speed and power but those opponents are nowhere to the skills of the champion, Gary Russell. That will be the first time for Magsayo to face a dominant opponent in his career so everything will be new to him.
Just stay humble though. I like Magsayo's being optimistic but he should just show that on the ring, not via statement or speech.
Filipinos are not good in speech, lol.. They are good in the ring because actions speaks louder for them. I will root for him no matter how underdog he is, I know there's a value of my money on that odds and I don't mind losing also, that's a way to support, risk some money for the one you are leaning with.
That's not what I meant on that post haha.
What I meant is, Magsayo just needs to stay humble and stay away from releasing statements that he has the advantage against the champion, Gary Russell. I forgot where I read this but I saw an article where Magsayo is 100% sure he can win. I like that confidence as it means, he is 100% prepared but for me, it's better if he will say it on a statement like, I'm sure I will win at 100% but not degrading Russell here or something like that.
I will put a bet on Magsayo as support although honestly, the chance of winning is only around 40% based on my observation. No offense to that.
I hope I'm wrong as I will support our own here.
January 17, 2022, 07:26:47 PM
He needs to be a champion first before he learns how to speak English well. That's the process most boxers has to follow in the Philippines. I just hope for his success on the biggest fight of his career, then maybe if he will follow Pacman's journey, he might also take a course and study to improve his learning, and probably enter into politics too.
Why others are now talking about the English language lol.
Let's forget that. It's not necessary to learn that language when it comes to building a good boxing achievement.
And lastly, Magsayo has its own journey. There's not something he should follow on what Manny Pacquiao achieved. Let alone he builds his own path rather than stick to the idea that he has footsteps to follow.
January 17, 2022, 07:02:41 PM
^^ Not sure if he will go win an interpreter or not, Manny didn't got one and when Jim or Larry interview him after the fight, you will see the awkwardness in the post fight interview until Pacquiao improves his English hehehe.
So it will be a long way to go for Magsayo, he really needs to win this fight to be in the discussion and will really raise his stocks in the featherweight and maybe faces Leo Sta Cruz or just the recent upset winner Kiko Martinez. So very promising for Magsayo if he wins against Russell.
So it will be a long way to go for Magsayo, he really needs to win this fight to be in the discussion and will really raise his stocks in the featherweight and maybe faces Leo Sta Cruz or just the recent upset winner Kiko Martinez. So very promising for Magsayo if he wins against Russell.
He needs to be a champion first before he learns how to speak English well. That's the process most boxers has to follow in the Philippines. I just hope for his success on the biggest fight of his career, then maybe if he will follow Pacman's journey, he might also take a course and study to improve his learning, and probably enter into politics too.
afaik, they can easily learn english as it is like their second language. so he may not be articulate in speaking but he can easily understand english. usually, that's their weakness, speaking in public. but this comes in second when we are talking their prowess inside the ring. the important is how powerful they can be inside the ring?
few days and we will witness the making of magsayo here, if he wins on this fight. bookies are with russell here. but am seeing a lot of bettors in the forum are betting on magsayo because of the good odds.
January 17, 2022, 03:49:09 PM
^^ Not sure if he will go win an interpreter or not, Manny didn't got one and when Jim or Larry interview him after the fight, you will see the awkwardness in the post fight interview until Pacquiao improves his English hehehe.
So it will be a long way to go for Magsayo, he really needs to win this fight to be in the discussion and will really raise his stocks in the featherweight and maybe faces Leo Sta Cruz or just the recent upset winner Kiko Martinez. So very promising for Magsayo if he wins against Russell.
So it will be a long way to go for Magsayo, he really needs to win this fight to be in the discussion and will really raise his stocks in the featherweight and maybe faces Leo Sta Cruz or just the recent upset winner Kiko Martinez. So very promising for Magsayo if he wins against Russell.
He needs to be a champion first before he learns how to speak English well. That's the process most boxers has to follow in the Philippines. I just hope for his success on the biggest fight of his career, then maybe if he will follow Pacman's journey, he might also take a course and study to improve his learning, and probably enter into politics too.
January 17, 2022, 08:31:39 AM
^^ Not sure if he will go win an interpreter or not, Manny didn't got one and when Jim or Larry interview him after the fight, you will see the awkwardness in the post fight interview until Pacquiao improves his English hehehe.
So it will be a long way to go for Magsayo, he really needs to win this fight to be in the discussion and will really raise his stocks in the featherweight and maybe faces Leo Sta Cruz or just the recent upset winner Kiko Martinez. So very promising for Magsayo if he wins against Russell.
So it will be a long way to go for Magsayo, he really needs to win this fight to be in the discussion and will really raise his stocks in the featherweight and maybe faces Leo Sta Cruz or just the recent upset winner Kiko Martinez. So very promising for Magsayo if he wins against Russell.
January 17, 2022, 06:46:55 AM
Well, Magsayo is the challenger, he should be the aggressive, he cannot win if he cannot convince the judges but the better way to convince them is to KO Rusell, that's hard to do but it's possible if he study his opponent and train hard for this fight.
Judges would always favor the champion if the challenger is not aggressive enough unless it's pretty obvious that he boxes out the champion which we only see in rare cases. Since Magsayo is a knockout puncher, I expect a knockout in this fight, hopefully the champion will be the recipient of the KO punch.
I'm also expecting a KnockOut win, of course by our own Magsayo but Gary Russell is a tough one. We might see Magsayo dominating his previous opponents with that speed and power but those opponents are nowhere to the skills of the champion, Gary Russell. That will be the first time for Magsayo to face a dominant opponent in his career so everything will be new to him.
Just stay humble though. I like Magsayo's being optimistic but he should just show that on the ring, not via statement or speech.
Filipinos are not good in speech, lol.. They are good in the ring because actions speaks louder for them. I will root for him no matter how underdog he is, I know there's a value of my money on that odds and I don't mind losing also, that's a way to support, risk some money for the one you are leaning with.
I think it's about the language barrier though, it's not only Filipinos, but there are a lot like Mexico and Puerto Rican boxers and some European boxers who have difficulty expressing themselves.
Nevertheless it is not a barrier, like Manny Pacquiao, Canelo Alvarez and Loma (both who improved their English proficiency already).
Hopefully Mark would go to his hardship but it will not deter him to be a good boxer in the future.
If he can't express himself fully, he can use an interpreter to do the job, I think it's very important that every boxer would be able to express himself especially after a win as that's the best way to gain fans around the globe. Magsayo is very promising, if he wins this fight, the world will recognize him because he is a champion.
January 17, 2022, 06:31:19 AM
Well, Magsayo is the challenger, he should be the aggressive, he cannot win if he cannot convince the judges but the better way to convince them is to KO Rusell, that's hard to do but it's possible if he study his opponent and train hard for this fight.
Judges would always favor the champion if the challenger is not aggressive enough unless it's pretty obvious that he boxes out the champion which we only see in rare cases. Since Magsayo is a knockout puncher, I expect a knockout in this fight, hopefully the champion will be the recipient of the KO punch.
I'm also expecting a KnockOut win, of course by our own Magsayo but Gary Russell is a tough one. We might see Magsayo dominating his previous opponents with that speed and power but those opponents are nowhere to the skills of the champion, Gary Russell. That will be the first time for Magsayo to face a dominant opponent in his career so everything will be new to him.
Just stay humble though. I like Magsayo's being optimistic but he should just show that on the ring, not via statement or speech.
Filipinos are not good in speech, lol.. They are good in the ring because actions speaks louder for them. I will root for him no matter how underdog he is, I know there's a value of my money on that odds and I don't mind losing also, that's a way to support, risk some money for the one you are leaning with.
I think it's about the language barrier though, it's not only Filipinos, but there are a lot like Mexico and Puerto Rican boxers and some European boxers who have difficulty expressing themselves.
Nevertheless it is not a barrier, like Manny Pacquiao, Canelo Alvarez and Loma (both who improved their English proficiency already).
Hopefully Mark would go to his hardship but it will not deter him to be a good boxer in the future.
January 17, 2022, 05:51:52 AM
Filipinos are not good in speech, lol.. They are good in the ring because actions speaks louder for them. I will root for him no matter how underdog he is, I know there's a value of my money on that odds and I don't mind losing also, that's a way to support, risk some money for the one you are leaning with.
Aside from Casimero, Both Pacquiao and Donaire are simply humbling their way to top!
If Magsayo will stay focus and prove himself inside the ring, he will be lined up with both legends. This will be a tough one for him, but knowing
the characteristic of most pinoy fighters. They always wanted to be an underdog and start fighting with the heart, showcasing all the skill they've
got to prove that they deserve the fight, and most of the time the outcome favors them.,
Let's wait and hope for the best!
January 17, 2022, 05:19:57 AM
Well, Magsayo is the challenger, he should be the aggressive, he cannot win if he cannot convince the judges but the better way to convince them is to KO Rusell, that's hard to do but it's possible if he study his opponent and train hard for this fight.
Judges would always favor the champion if the challenger is not aggressive enough unless it's pretty obvious that he boxes out the champion which we only see in rare cases. Since Magsayo is a knockout puncher, I expect a knockout in this fight, hopefully the champion will be the recipient of the KO punch.
I'm also expecting a KnockOut win, of course by our own Magsayo but Gary Russell is a tough one. We might see Magsayo dominating his previous opponents with that speed and power but those opponents are nowhere to the skills of the champion, Gary Russell. That will be the first time for Magsayo to face a dominant opponent in his career so everything will be new to him.
Just stay humble though. I like Magsayo's being optimistic but he should just show that on the ring, not via statement or speech.
Filipinos are not good in speech, lol.. They are good in the ring because actions speaks louder for them. I will root for him no matter how underdog he is, I know there's a value of my money on that odds and I don't mind losing also, that's a way to support, risk some money for the one you are leaning with.
January 16, 2022, 07:55:40 PM
The odds for Mark Magsayo is really tempting. Since we favored him, putting money on him is the best shot. Just look at how bookies provided the odds for Russell, it's @1.2 and that odds is saying that Magsayo has nowhere to win.
We already see lots of upset by a PH boxer against the Favorite. I hope Magsayo can do the same.
We already see lots of upset by a PH boxer against the Favorite. I hope Magsayo can do the same.
January 16, 2022, 07:48:14 PM
See those quick punches by Magsayo on his last fight that leads to knocking out his opponent? I want that same speed to see against Russell.
But Russell already faces some boxers even much higher skills compare to Magsayo. I really doubt that Russell will end up in a KO.
Too dangerous for Magsayo if the fight will end up on Decision. Magsayo should try everything to go for a KO win.
But Russell already faces some boxers even much higher skills compare to Magsayo. I really doubt that Russell will end up in a KO.
Too dangerous for Magsayo if the fight will end up on Decision. Magsayo should try everything to go for a KO win.
January 16, 2022, 07:05:35 PM
Well, Magsayo is the challenger, he should be the aggressive, he cannot win if he cannot convince the judges but the better way to convince them is to KO Rusell, that's hard to do but it's possible if he study his opponent and train hard for this fight.
Judges would always favor the champion if the challenger is not aggressive enough unless it's pretty obvious that he boxes out the champion which we only see in rare cases. Since Magsayo is a knockout puncher, I expect a knockout in this fight, hopefully the champion will be the recipient of the KO punch.
I'm also expecting a KnockOut win, of course by our own Magsayo but Gary Russell is a tough one. We might see Magsayo dominating his previous opponents with that speed and power but those opponents are nowhere to the skills of the champion, Gary Russell. That will be the first time for Magsayo to face a dominant opponent in his career so everything will be new to him.
Just stay humble though. I like Magsayo's being optimistic but he should just show that on the ring, not via statement or speech.
January 16, 2022, 01:39:00 PM
Quite surprised to see how huge Magsayo is as an underdog against Russell. Do the sport bookies didn't consider Mark's record and experience + Russell long lay off?
But this is a great opportunity for those bettors who love underdogs. Definitely Mark Magsayo can fight and expect this to be a good fight.
Taking into account the odds we are seeing for Magsayo I think it is clear that bookies do not think it is such a huge issue that Russell has taken so much time away from boxing and they do not think that his skills have rusted, or they think that despite that factor Russell is so above Magsayo that those odds are justified, however if you think the odds for Magsayo to win the fight are wrong then this seems like the perfect moment to take a bet on his favor.But this is a great opportunity for those bettors who love underdogs. Definitely Mark Magsayo can fight and expect this to be a good fight.
That's why Magsayo's odds here are undervalued, bookies doesn't care though, and it's not what they think but it's what the majority of the fans are thinking right now. Not everyone knows Magsayo for sure so they think he is just nobody to challenge the champion, with that, we can take advantage betting on the underdog here.
January 16, 2022, 10:39:17 AM
Well, Magsayo is the challenger, he should be the aggressive, he cannot win if he cannot convince the judges but the better way to convince them is to KO Rusell, that's hard to do but it's possible if he study his opponent and train hard for this fight.
Judges would always favor the champion if the challenger is not aggressive enough unless it's pretty obvious that he boxes out the champion which we only see in rare cases. Since Magsayo is a knockout puncher, I expect a knockout in this fight, hopefully the champion will be the recipient of the KO punch.
January 16, 2022, 10:21:31 AM
Russell is not a KO artist for me, 31 wins and 18 of them are from KO. Well, maybe he is strong but Magsayo is also strong and hungry for a win. A boxer who is very active and chasing his dream, it's worth betting for because he will certainly give everything to win, and if he fails, at least we will not regret as we support our Filipino boxers for his campaign to be a champion.
If that was the case, then Magsayo have some more percentage to win this fight if he will be able to unleash his skills and prove to everyone that whenever he fights some good boxers, he is also improving. As we can see there are only a few who can do that but who knows? maybe we are watching one of them who will gonna become a big star in the future. He just needs to beat Russel and he needs to beat him with clean K.O or technical K.O since they will be in his homeland where he will have the advantage when they reach the fight to the judge's scorecards.
This is what Magsayo needs to be careful about. As he is fighting in his opponent's homeland, he needs to clearly satisfy the judges. Otherwise, the tendency to favor Russell here is always there. Hope to see Magsayo gives a clean KO so judges will not think twice about their decision. This will be a great achievement for him if in case he will pull an upset. Only few days from now and we will see this fight.
I don't think that Magsayo needs to be careful in this fight, I mean he has nothing to lose here.
So he might as well go all out and make it a war against Russell. Of course this is not is hometurf, nevertheless I think the judges should be fair enough to call him the winner if indeed he will be the close victor in this fight.
Definitely a clean KO would be good and we all wanted that to see, but if it goes to the judges hand he can also have a good chance to win.
Perhaps what he meant is that Magsayo should be aware that it is possible that he might lose in the judges scorecard specially if it is very close as usually the judges score it for the champion during close fights. So Magsayo should know that at he back of his mind specially going on the championship rounds. So he need to show more aggressiveness or teeth to sway the judges to score those close rounds to him and maybe he can escape with the decision.
Well, Magsayo is the challenger, he should be the aggressive, he cannot win if he cannot convince the judges but the better way to convince them is to KO Rusell, that's hard to do but it's possible if he study his opponent and train hard for this fight.
January 15, 2022, 11:15:33 PM
Russell is not a KO artist for me, 31 wins and 18 of them are from KO. Well, maybe he is strong but Magsayo is also strong and hungry for a win. A boxer who is very active and chasing his dream, it's worth betting for because he will certainly give everything to win, and if he fails, at least we will not regret as we support our Filipino boxers for his campaign to be a champion.
If that was the case, then Magsayo have some more percentage to win this fight if he will be able to unleash his skills and prove to everyone that whenever he fights some good boxers, he is also improving. As we can see there are only a few who can do that but who knows? maybe we are watching one of them who will gonna become a big star in the future. He just needs to beat Russel and he needs to beat him with clean K.O or technical K.O since they will be in his homeland where he will have the advantage when they reach the fight to the judge's scorecards.
This is what Magsayo needs to be careful about. As he is fighting in his opponent's homeland, he needs to clearly satisfy the judges. Otherwise, the tendency to favor Russell here is always there. Hope to see Magsayo gives a clean KO so judges will not think twice about their decision. This will be a great achievement for him if in case he will pull an upset. Only few days from now and we will see this fight.
I don't think that Magsayo needs to be careful in this fight, I mean he has nothing to lose here.
So he might as well go all out and make it a war against Russell. Of course this is not is hometurf, nevertheless I think the judges should be fair enough to call him the winner if indeed he will be the close victor in this fight.
Definitely a clean KO would be good and we all wanted that to see, but if it goes to the judges hand he can also have a good chance to win.
Perhaps what he meant is that Magsayo should be aware that it is possible that he might lose in the judges scorecard specially if it is very close as usually the judges score it for the champion during close fights. So Magsayo should know that at he back of his mind specially going on the championship rounds. So he need to show more aggressiveness or teeth to sway the judges to score those close rounds to him and maybe he can escape with the decision.
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