[Boxing]: Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz - Oct 31 - page 3.

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That's Tank weaknesses, if he come over weight that the sign that he didn't come and prepared to fight Leo. But then again, he trains with Floyd so that is a big boost not to be overweight here, so I will say that he is far more trained and focus in this fight more than ever.

Yes of course a great boxer could teach well in his trainee to become a good boxer too.

There are many possibilities that will going to happen and that is Davis will come stronger, smarter and could be more defensive to adapt the style of mayweather. My bet will be to Davis because of this matter and I do like also his boxing skills.

However, I know how good really is Leo in the ring and for that this match is a good to watch.

It is not automatic that Mayweather being a good fighter, he is also a good trainer and this goes the same to Manny Pacquiao too. Davis is a good fighter, no doubt about that and Mayweather only polishes what is rough on him as he see it.

Leo is a very live dog but i think two consecutive upset in a row won't happen so i'm betting for Davis here via unanimous decision.

What are the chances of two consecutive upset in row? Slim, so yeah, Davis round 5-10 will look for a knock out, if that is not present then obviously if could be a unanimous decision for him. For Leo to win, he will not to have volume + power, which he doesn't have at this weight because he is the smaller boxer here. And Mayweather may have given Davis pointers, so let's see if there's some improvement, easily Floyd's famous pull counter, it will be great if Davis could add that in his arsenals.

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Quote from: erikoy on October 28, 2020, 02:23:45 AM

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That's Tank weaknesses, if he come over weight that the sign that he didn't come and prepared to fight Leo. But then again, he trains with Floyd so that is a big boost not to be overweight here, so I will say that he is far more trained and focus in this fight more than ever.

Yes of course a great boxer could teach well in his trainee to become a good boxer too.

There are many possibilities that will going to happen and that is Davis will come stronger, smarter and could be more defensive to adapt the style of mayweather. My bet will be to Davis because of this matter and I do like also his boxing skills.

However, I know how good really is Leo in the ring and for that this match is a good to watch.

It is not automatic that Mayweather being a good fighter, he is also a good trainer and this goes the same to Manny Pacquiao too. Davis is a good fighter, no doubt about that and Mayweather only polishes what is rough on him as he see it.

Leo is a very live dog but i think two consecutive upset in a row won't happen so i'm betting for Davis here via unanimous decision.

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That's Tank weaknesses, if he come over weight that the sign that he didn't come and prepared to fight Leo. But then again, he trains with Floyd so that is a big boost not to be overweight here, so I will say that he is far more trained and focus in this fight more than ever.

Yes of course a great boxer could teach well in his trainee to become a good boxer too.

There are many possibilities that will going to happen and that is Davis will come stronger, smarter and could be more defensive to adapt the style of mayweather. My bet will be to Davis because of this matter and I do like also his boxing skills.

However, I know how good really is Leo in the ring and for that this match is a good to watch.

I am into Davis. I think he will be the one who wins this game because he has a lot of advantages than Leo. And I think he is also doing well on his trainings and he is so determined to win the champ. He has a lot of potentials of being a real and great boxer and also his coach is also an advantage. I bet that most of the people will bet for him rather than leo.

Trained by a well known legend is the advantage that he have.,

He can simply adopt the strategy and mental preparedness aside from conditional skills, it's more on strategies and mental advancement that will bring him to win this fight, he already have the punching power and the stamina that he needs but the mental stability that he learned from Mayweather that's really one of the factors that will give him the edge.

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Quote from: erikoy on October 28, 2020, 02:23:45 AM

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That's Tank weaknesses, if he come over weight that the sign that he didn't come and prepared to fight Leo. But then again, he trains with Floyd so that is a big boost not to be overweight here, so I will say that he is far more trained and focus in this fight more than ever.

Yes of course a great boxer could teach well in his trainee to become a good boxer too.

There are many possibilities that will going to happen and that is Davis will come stronger, smarter and could be more defensive to adapt the style of mayweather. My bet will be to Davis because of this matter and I do like also his boxing skills.

However, I know how good really is Leo in the ring and for that this match is a good to watch.

Yes, this is going to be a good match, specially if we see Leo throwing a lot on Davis, and Leo's fight is not boring because of his relentless effort to throw as much punch as he can per round, but the odds are not reflecting it, seems like Davis is the favourite.

But Davis has share some problems before, specially the weight issues, yes he is obviously the bigger guy, but it's hard to to discredit the fact that Leo is a champion as well and shows great heart and passion on his every fight. He avenged his only lost to Carl Frampton, so expect Leo to really gave everything specially that he is a huge underdog in this fight.

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Quote from: erikoy on October 28, 2020, 02:23:45 AM

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That's Tank weaknesses, if he come over weight that the sign that he didn't come and prepared to fight Leo. But then again, he trains with Floyd so that is a big boost not to be overweight here, so I will say that he is far more trained and focus in this fight more than ever.

Yes of course a great boxer could teach well in his trainee to become a good boxer too.

There are many possibilities that will going to happen and that is Davis will come stronger, smarter and could be more defensive to adapt the style of mayweather. My bet will be to Davis because of this matter and I do like also his boxing skills.

However, I know how good really is Leo in the ring and for that this match is a good to watch.

I am into Davis. I think he will be the one who wins this game because he has a lot of advantages than Leo. And I think he is also doing well on his trainings and he is so determined to win the champ. He has a lot of potentials of being a real and great boxer and also his coach is also an advantage. I bet that most of the people will bet for him rather than leo.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 28, 2020, 02:06:33 AM

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That's Tank weaknesses, if he come over weight that the sign that he didn't come and prepared to fight Leo. But then again, he trains with Floyd so that is a big boost not to be overweight here, so I will say that he is far more trained and focus in this fight more than ever.

Yes of course a great boxer could teach well in his trainee to become a good boxer too.

There are many possibilities that will going to happen and that is Davis will come stronger, smarter and could be more defensive to adapt the style of mayweather. My bet will be to Davis because of this matter and I do like also his boxing skills.

However, I know how good really is Leo in the ring and for that this match is a good to watch.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 27, 2020, 08:53:04 PM

I just finished watching some Youtube stream of both fighters, Leo is really a live dog and very motivated to win this for his father. However, I don't think it will be enough to overcome Davis power. The trick here is to push Davis to fight his fight, meaning from round one, he will need to throw 100 punch and force Davis to either play his game or made him uncomfortable.

Tank will be more intelligent that absorbing 100 punches per round, he will try to defend it and then give some, he will not go toe to toe with Leo because that's the mistakes of his previous opponents, fighting Leo's territory. So Tank Davis will become more of a counter puncher here, similar to Floyd.

Quote from: Kemarit on October 27, 2020, 08:53:04 PM

If Davis really come prepared, not overweight, trained very hard for full 12 rounds because that's why Leo's gonna give him, then I'm seeing him getting a KO and this fight will not go to the distance. Probably we can see it in the weigh in and see Davis overall health for this fight.

That's Tank weaknesses, if he come over weight that the sign that he didn't come and prepared to fight Leo. But then again, he trains with Floyd so that is a big boost not to be overweight here, so I will say that he is far more trained and focus in this fight more than ever.

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I just finished watching some Youtube stream of both fighters, Leo is really a live dog and very motivated to win this for his father. However, I don't think it will be enough to overcome Davis power. The trick here is to push Davis to fight his fight, meaning from round one, he will need to throw 100 punch and force Davis to either play his game or made him uncomfortable.

If Davis really come prepared, not overweight, trained very hard for full 12 rounds because that's why Leo's gonna give him, then I'm seeing him getting a KO and this fight will not go to the distance. Probably we can see it in the weigh in and see Davis overall health for this fight.

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For gamblers who looks juicier odds than Davis ML:

Leo's father was a cancer survivor and almost died of Covid-19:

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“My dad means the world to me,” Leo Santa Cruz said. “Everything I have is thanks to him because he pushed me every day.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/leo-santa-cruz-im-fighting-this-fight-my-family-my-dad--152748

For Gamboa, he wants to redeem himself after a dismal performance against Gamboa

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“I watched the Gamboa fight a couple of weeks later and I turned it off. That wasn't my best performance,” said Davis. “That's why now, I moved my training camp to Las Vegas [at Mayweather Boxing Club] so I can be able to put on a better performance. I think that was bad for my fans. I'm definitely coming back stronger and better. I will make it up for my last fight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-gamboa-fight-my-best-performance-it-bad-my-fans--152749

So take your pick, and think of who has more heart and very motivated.

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I don't know if it was a great idea to allow spectators to watch this fight in the arena with COVID cases rising. Regardless, it shouldn't be a factor in this fight. We shall see how Gervonta looks during the weigh in. If he had trouble making weight again then he will struggle more in this fight than in his last one when he faced the old man Gambo who was also fighting with one good leg.

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Only few days left for this fight, and it is clear that Gervonta Tank Davis is favorite here, but odds are low.
If we look at his previous fights we can see that he won many fights with TKO or KO.
Leo Santa Cruz is Mexican figther with only one loss, but he is older and weaker fighter here.

I will go with two bets here:
Gervonta Tank win with KO or TKO and fight will not go to distance

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 22, 2020, 05:46:59 PM

I think the over and under 10.5 rounds is attractive as compare to ML on Davis. Yes, it will be interesting to see that Leo's chin if Davis touch it with his uppercut, Davis body is compact that's why he can generate so much power in both of his hands. But then again, Leo has the numbers for now, and if he beat Davis here, it will be the year of the underdogs.

Let's see if this is another Loma-Lopez fate of fight.
With the potential audience inside the place, will it affect their performance if someone is actually cheering for them?
Both of them need to prepare as you really can't underestimate the power of one boxer.
You will only see the strength when you are both inside the ring, and sometimes it is already too late to say that you should have seriously prepared for the fight.

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I think the over and under 10.5 rounds is attractive as compare to ML on Davis. Yes, it will be interesting to see that Leo's chin if Davis touch it with his uppercut, Davis body is compact that's why he can generate so much power in both of his hands. But then again, Leo has the numbers for now, and if he beat Davis here, it will be the year of the underdogs.

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I have updated the OP with the current odds, thanks.

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“October 31st is going to be the biggest fight of my career,” Santa Cruz said in a press release Friday to announce the date and site switch of his fight versus Davis. “I’m going to fight a very tough opponent, maybe the toughest opponent of my career. Two titles are going to be on the line, and this will be my first time headlining a pay-per-view. So, I’m doing everything that I can to put on a good show. Davis is known for his power. But I think with my experience and ring IQ, I can break him down. He’s probably going to be very aggressive in the early rounds. But if I do what I’m supposed to do, and execute our game plan, I will win.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/santa-cruz-with-my-experience-ring-iq-i-break-down-gervonta-davis--152639

Yes, it will be Leo's toughest fight, but I would say that ring IQ belongs to Davis as well, he is a face first boxer because of his volume punching. I hope that his chin will hold against Davis power punches though, this is going to be an exciting and if Davis wins, possible that a Lopez vs Davis will happen sometime in the future.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 10, 2020, 07:59:53 PM

Odds are already in guys, as per Nitrogen:

Davis odds? Not attractive, but it's obviously that Tank is the favourite, so it you wanted to get huge returns, you need to get as much money that you can bet as you can.

@OP, maybe you can also put the list of the sites having this match. In bestodds, about 5 sportsbooks are having this match already. Also, the odds in nitrogen also changed. Davis is the favourite so let's see if Santa Cruz will have rigid training for this challenge and show what he's got.

https://www.bestodds.ai/odds/sport-boxing/matchups/leo-santa-cruz-vs-gervonta-davis

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I was looking at some video of Davis' media workout and he is wearing a sauna suit. It makes me wonder if he is having problems making weight. We have seen him blow up in weight in between fights before and he is not known as the most disciplined person. He might need to bring in a nutritionist which is what Teofimo Lopez did last year when he was having trouble staying at 135 and it seems to have worked out for him.

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Just to let you know, the fight has been moved to Oct 31. The reason? there will be fans in attendance.

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The next major boxing Pay-Per-View event is officially on the move.

Gervonta Davis and Leo Santa Cruz now have a new date and a firm location for their anticipated two-belt title fight showdown. Their originally scheduled October 24 Showtime PPV headliner will now take place one week later, moving to October 31 and to take place at The Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas, three sources with intimate knowledge of the development confirmed to BoxingScene.com on Wednesday.

https://www.boxingscene.com/davis-vs-santa-cruz-moves-oct-31-san-antonio-with-fans-attendance--152131

So this is really a good development, and I'm sure this will generate more hype and more money for this fight. And at least boxing fans could watch it live in the covid-19 situation.

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Odds are already in guys, as per Nitrogen:

Davis odds? Not attractive, but it's obviously that Tank is the favourite, so it you wanted to get huge returns, you need to get as much money that you can bet as you can.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 05, 2020, 08:18:29 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 05, 2020, 07:59:07 PM

So he knows that Santa Cruz is a volume puncher and he is prepared for it. So volume vs accurate and hard puncher. A classic brawler vs technical fighter here.

The problem is that Sta. Cruz doesn't have a pop on his punches and I don't think it will be enough as Davis have shown that his chin can handle it. If Sta. Cruz could have that sting, similar to Pacquaio during his prime and hitting you at any angle, then he has a chance against Tank. Another thing to mention is that he is not that fast at this weight, Davis is, so Tank can elude and escape and he is too technical as well, with Floyd as his trainer or at least giving him pointers.

Agree, if Leo's punch has just enough sting then maybe he will be an elite fighter by now. But he turns out to be the usual Mexican brawler. Pacquaio is very different though, it has power and the angle.

Tank and Floyd is not even comparable though, and for sure fans here like Tank's style more than Floyd. Again, not to take away anything from Leo, but he doesn't have the tools to upset Davis here. Volume punching will not be enough.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 06, 2020, 09:17:14 AM

This fight is still more than one month away, as it is scheduled for 24th October. I haven't decided whether I should make a bet or not, but there is a lot of media hype surrounding this bout. Davis is reported to be training under Floyd Mayweather Jr. Mayweather spent some time last month training Devin Haney as well. On the other hand, I haven't heard much about Leo Santa Cruz during the past few days.

Root for Davis, this guy is from Mars that can avoid whichever the punches come from, me may be younger but can knock with just a single punch.

Santa Cruz is ranking up his weight, this could be uncharted for him, its a slim chance for him to get used to new weight class in a short period of time. Unlike Davis who doesn't have to fast to achieve weight.

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