Topic: [Boxing]: Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz - Oct 31 - page 4. (Read 777 times)
This fight is still more than one month away, as it is scheduled for 24th October. I haven't decided whether I should make a bet or not, but there is a lot of media hype surrounding this bout. Davis is reported to be training under Floyd Mayweather Jr. Mayweather spent some time last month training Devin Haney as well. On the other hand, I haven't heard much about Leo Santa Cruz during the past few days.
There's a lot of stake here, specially for Gervonta Davis, I agree with @bisdak40, his no way close to Mayweather in terms of defense, he has this kind of thing like every boxer does, if he gets him, he wanted to give it back right away. So there will be instance in the fight that we will engage Leo in a brawl and then get out, it will not be like Floyd who runs a run, or at least prevent a full out brawl.
in regards to experience, santa cruz has an advantage together with achievements also as santa cruz is currently holding 2 tiles while davis is still on pursue of it. davis can't be belittle also because of it's punching power as he was able to KO his 22 opponents out of 23 wins. if this fight will reach to 12 round, i am in favor for santa cruz.
I agree, brawler will just be a brawler, and when they are push, they don't know how to react. And besides, they don't have a good defense, because for they their offense is their best defense. As compare to technical fighters, who are defensive genius, know the sweet science of boxing, to hit and not get hit.
Not unless Davis, become too cocky and aggressive and then hit with a punch that he didn't see.
Not unless Davis, become too cocky and aggressive and then hit with a punch that he didn't see.
To hit and not get hit just like Mayweather
but Davis is different from him as he is not a runner, he would engage in a brawl if needed and we all know who will end up in the canvass and that's not him. Agree with Baofeng that the chance for Leo to win is very slim that is why he is very motivated to train hard because if ever he can upset Davis, there is so much money for him in the rematch. The same with Davis, he can't be too overconfident here as this might cause complication on his next fight with the big names of this division. 
https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-santa-cruz-throws-more-me-i-come-hit-hard--151490
So he knows that Santa Cruz is a volume puncher and he is prepared for it. So volume vs accurate and hard puncher. A classic brawler vs technical fighter here.
I always go for a technical fighter because they have more arsenals than a brawler, a brawler just comes after you with volume punches disregarding timing and powers, while a technical boxer can always get you with his counter punching and he can knock you down if you are caught off guard and Davis is a very good technical fighter.
I agree, brawler will just be a brawler, and when they are push, they don't know how to react. And besides, they don't have a good defense, because for they their offense is their best defense. As compare to technical fighters, who are defensive genius, know the sweet science of boxing, to hit and not get hit.
Not unless Davis, become too cocky and aggressive and then hit with a punch that he didn't see.
https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-santa-cruz-throws-more-me-i-come-hit-hard--151490
So he knows that Santa Cruz is a volume puncher and he is prepared for it. So volume vs accurate and hard puncher. A classic brawler vs technical fighter here.
I always go for a technical fighter because they have more arsenals than a brawler, a brawler just comes after you with volume punches disregarding timing and powers, while a technical boxer can always get you with his counter punching and he can knock you down if you are caught off guard and Davis is a very good technical fighter.
So he knows that Santa Cruz is a volume puncher and he is prepared for it. So volume vs accurate and hard puncher. A classic brawler vs technical fighter here.
The problem is that Sta. Cruz doesn't have a pop on his punches and I don't think it will be enough as Davis have shown that his chin can handle it. If Sta. Cruz could have that sting, similar to Pacquaio during his prime and hitting you at any angle, then he has a chance against Tank. Another thing to mention is that he is not that fast at this weight, Davis is, so Tank can elude and escape and he is too technical as well, with Floyd as his trainer or at least giving him pointers.
It's time for Davis to share his thoughts about the fight,
https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-santa-cruz-throws-more-me-i-come-hit-hard--151490
So he knows that Santa Cruz is a volume puncher and he is prepared for it. So volume vs accurate and hard puncher. A classic brawler vs technical fighter here.
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"He’s coming with his output, a lot of punches, he throws more than me. I’m coming and hit hard. It’s just about who wants it the most, who can dish it out and take it too,” Davis told the Last Stand Podcast with Brian Custer. “I don’t think my power will be too much because he’s a veteran. He’s been in there with guys who had power. It’s about who comes out there and is perfect that night. It will show if my power is too much for him. It might be a short night. It will come down to whoever wants it more.”
https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-santa-cruz-throws-more-me-i-come-hit-hard--151490
So he knows that Santa Cruz is a volume puncher and he is prepared for it. So volume vs accurate and hard puncher. A classic brawler vs technical fighter here.
Just a short update on this fight:
https://fightnews.com/leo-santa-cruz-begins-preparation-for-tank-davis/79851
So he is really motivated and focused on this fight against Davis. I'm not saying that no one is giving him a shot, but his chances are very slim. For sure Davis wanted to bounce back from his poor performance against an old Gamboa. So it's a battle of grit, but I'm still backing Davis to win this fight.
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“This is the biggest fight of my career. It is the fight I always wanted and my first pay per view that I headline. So, I am really, excited,” Leo Santa Cruz told Fightnews.com®. “I am motivated and training hard for this fight. No one gives me a shot, but I am going to shock the world.”
“I was active during quarantine. I stopped for about a month because my dad got the virus. He wasn’t doing well but he’s good now,” Santa Cruz stated. “I’m back in camp now the preparation is going well we started last week as we start to train more, and we will be stepping it up. I will do everything that way I come well prepared for the fight,”
“I was active during quarantine. I stopped for about a month because my dad got the virus. He wasn’t doing well but he’s good now,” Santa Cruz stated. “I’m back in camp now the preparation is going well we started last week as we start to train more, and we will be stepping it up. I will do everything that way I come well prepared for the fight,”
https://fightnews.com/leo-santa-cruz-begins-preparation-for-tank-davis/79851
So he is really motivated and focused on this fight against Davis. I'm not saying that no one is giving him a shot, but his chances are very slim. For sure Davis wanted to bounce back from his poor performance against an old Gamboa. So it's a battle of grit, but I'm still backing Davis to win this fight.
In the fields of boxing, it is hard to guess if who is wins except for their respective strength they are both good and hardworking. we could not be hiding that in reality, Gervonta Davis is too much older in the fields of boxing which are comparing to Leo Santa Cruz if we are thinking about the power punch according to the research the left hook of Leo Santa Cruz is very strong so I think this coming event is very nice.
I have to disagree with you here mate. Winners in the boxing match is not so hard to predict that is why we have an overwhelming favorite in betting, if you bet on the heavy favorite, most like betting sites will let you win 1% of your bet.
Very well explain, we only have 2 fighters in the ring and to put our bets so I don't know how difficult it is to bet and predict who are going to win because we have odds.
On this fight, Santa Cruz is the underdog here i suppose since the stronger puncher here would be Davis. Upset could happen but IMO, it's has a slim chance to happen in this fight unless Sta. Cruz will KO Davis but that's not going to happen.
Davis should be the more powerful puncher here, it's just the law of science, short distance to travel, shorter fighter generates explosiveness which Davis possesses.
In the fields of boxing, it is hard to guess if who is wins except for their respective strength they are both good and hardworking. we could not be hiding that in reality, Gervonta Davis is too much older in the fields of boxing which are comparing to Leo Santa Cruz if we are thinking about the power punch according to the research the left hook of Leo Santa Cruz is very strong so I think this coming event is very nice.
What you are saying here doesn't make sense, too much older in the field of boxing? Or do you mean Davis has the experience? In terms of experience I will give it to Leo Santa Cruz, but it doesn't matter if your opponent is better than you. Yes, Leo has a good left hook, but you also have to research who has the better knock out percentage. This is not 122 or 126 lbs that Leo used to be putting people down. This is 130 lbs in which Davis weight, although he has problems making it, but I think he will make the cut this time.
I am very sure that Gervonta will win this boxing match easily, if you look at Gervonta's fighting style, which does not rely solely on punches
hard, but Gervonta including boxers who play smart with technical. Leo Santa Cruz is not really a bad boxer, but all Boxing fans know that
Gervonta's abilities and experience are still much better.
hard, but Gervonta including boxers who play smart with technical. Leo Santa Cruz is not really a bad boxer, but all Boxing fans know that
Gervonta's abilities and experience are still much better.
In the fields of boxing, it is hard to guess if who is wins except for their respective strength they are both good and hardworking. we could not be hiding that in reality, Gervonta Davis is too much older in the fields of boxing which are comparing to Leo Santa Cruz if we are thinking about the power punch according to the research the left hook of Leo Santa Cruz is very strong so I think this coming event is very nice.
I have to disagree with you here mate. Winners in the boxing match is not so hard to predict that is why we have an overwhelming favorite in betting, if you bet on the heavy favorite, most like betting sites will let you win 1% of your bet.
On this fight, Santa Cruz is the underdog here i suppose since the stronger puncher here would be Davis. Upset could happen but IMO, it's has a slim chance to happen in this fight unless Sta. Cruz will KO Davis but that's not going to happen.
What sites have good betting odds for this match? Haven't checked this match yet. But yes, if you bet in the heavy favourite, definitely the percentage you will get is low. And if you follow both of their careers, you will know which has high chance to win inside the ring.
In the fields of boxing, it is hard to guess if who is wins except for their respective strength they are both good and hardworking. we could not be hiding that in reality, Gervonta Davis is too much older in the fields of boxing which are comparing to Leo Santa Cruz if we are thinking about the power punch according to the research the left hook of Leo Santa Cruz is very strong so I think this coming event is very nice.
I have to disagree with you here mate. Winners in the boxing match is not so hard to predict that is why we have an overwhelming favorite in betting, if you bet on the heavy favorite, most like betting sites will let you win 1% of your bet.
On this fight, Santa Cruz is the underdog here i suppose since the stronger puncher here would be Davis. Upset could happen but IMO, it's has a slim chance to happen in this fight unless Sta. Cruz will KO Davis but that's not going to happen.
Leo Santa Cruz is no joke, but odds are he's going to get KO'd by Davis.
I expect Cruz will be up on the score cards for much of the fight, but I think Gervonta Davis will land a combination to put him to sleep in the middle to late rounds.
I highly doubt if it goes the distance Davis will win on points, since he'll probs be outscored by Cruz, but that's very unlikely given Davis' knockout record.
He's like a mini Deontay Wilder, he's got dynamite in those little ass gloves
My bet is in knockout victory for Davis in 7-10 rounds.
I expect Cruz will be up on the score cards for much of the fight, but I think Gervonta Davis will land a combination to put him to sleep in the middle to late rounds.
I highly doubt if it goes the distance Davis will win on points, since he'll probs be outscored by Cruz, but that's very unlikely given Davis' knockout record.
He's like a mini Deontay Wilder, he's got dynamite in those little ass gloves
My bet is in knockout victory for Davis in 7-10 rounds.
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You make some good point but it not about Davis been undefeated or age but hes an experienced fight and so calculative.
indeed we are not talking about Davis & Cruz who lost and won, they both have good careers, only the difference age 25/32.I remember the Hopkins boxer, at the age of 30, he won the IBF at that time and also at the age of 50 Hopkins continued to box and beat Joe Smith Jr. That time.
In this match between Davis V Cruz, there is a new history for both of them, one aged 25 and one 32, to the best of the 23-year-old boxing bettor's condition, however, from the experience I've followed.
There are boxers who have age, should retire, who want to continue to fight & fight younger, sometimes can not be considered of age, and underestimated, the way they conquer opponents mostly uses strategy, so that the experienced senior boxers that I often see, also have quite thrilling blow guns.
Bottom line: the match hasn't started yet, I'm very curious the two of them to bet between Davis V Cruz .
Age does shouldnt be use to predict the winner of every fight cause the length of how the fighter make use of his chance and stay intact in the defensive level determine the last man standing.
Speaking of thrilling blow guns, I think youre not aware that Davis was into boxing since he was 5years old and i believe he sees boxing as something far more than a sport and also belong to experience camp.
You make some good point but it not about Davis been undefeated or age but hes an experienced fight and so calculative.
Nailed it, that's really a very big advantage. Having a good experienced together with his skills and capabilities, he can manage to dominate his opponent, though it's not really secured as there's sill possibilities that with good insight reviews and conditioning from the
part of Santa Cruz camp, if they'll able to counter and create good strategy chance
to win is still possible.
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When it comes to KO percentage then there no doubt that Gervonta do have it yet you can really foreseen its sheer power basing on of that percentage but i do disagree on the point you had said that
experience doesnt matter? No it is a big factor because you cant easily outboxed someone that do had much better experience that you are. Number of fights gaps does really counts because he wont able to
pile up those numbers if he's not good enough but well we can presume that younger and having some strong punching power will really have that kind of chance and can close up the gaps.
When it comes to KO percentage then there no doubt that Gervonta do have it yet you can really foreseen its sheer power basing on of that percentage but i do disagree on the point you had said that
experience doesnt matter? No it is a big factor because you cant easily outboxed someone that do had much better experience that you are. Number of fights gaps does really counts because he wont able to
pile up those numbers if he's not good enough but well we can presume that younger and having some strong punching power will really have that kind of chance and can close up the gaps.
I said titles Leo has doesn't matter, not his 37 game experiences. I know it matters and was a huge factor to consider upon betting on Boxing, but fight gaps doesn't really count as an advantage nor be considered when it comes to whom could really win or not. But look at Gervonta's age and his fight count, he had most (almost everything) of his fights end up in knockouts, and with their 7 year gap, I think there's even a possibility that Gervonta could double those records in those years, beating the record and even Leo's "valuable experiences" (or beat Leo himself as well)
Gervonta Davis still is in his very prime with an incomparable reflex that can avoid a million punches while his hands are down. And with a KO record of 95%, almost all of the fighter who box with him in the ring end up kissing the floor. Whoever wants this fight to push through hates Leo Santa Cruz the most and will likely bet more than $1M for his 2nd knockout.
Mayweather who is Davis' promoter has kept him protected so it's impossible at this moment to know if it really is such a mismatch. Of course Santa Cruz naturally belongs at a lower weight class, has no power, and isn't a slick defensive fighter so that's why they cherry picked him. That being said, we can't discredit Santa Cruz's experience against championship level fighters. There is also his workrate, he is a big volume fighter. The biggest factor could end up being how well Davis can cut weight. He had problems making lightweight in his last bout and is now going back down to jr. lightweight. There is too many variables to be declaring Davis the winner so early on.
Gervonta Davis still is in his very prime with an incomparable reflex that can avoid a million punches while his hands are down. And with a KO record of 95%, almost all of the fighter who box with him in the ring end up kissing the floor. Whoever wants this fight to push through hates Leo Santa Cruz the most and will likely bet more than $1M for his 2nd knockout.
If I see the match history: champinon.info-davis-vs-santa-cruz, (Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz), Leo looks professional, but from the scores they got both: 23-37 / 0-1-0-1, it seems that Leo are superior.
From their age 25/32, Gervonta is physically much younger, however, from more experience to Leo.
From their age 25/32, Gervonta is physically much younger, however, from more experience to Leo.
I think Gervonta has the higher possibility to win (based on my observation in his fights), as knockouts matter more than just wins and add his 23-streak wins without any loses nor draws. Also, most of the times younger ones often beat those whom have better experiences. I mean 95% KO rate of Gervonta is a huge gap and much comparable to 51% of Leo, and that was an advantage. Though Leo had won two titles, I think that wouldn't matter at all.
Hopefully this would be aired online or on my local television. I'm eager to bet and watch such a beautiful fight.
When it comes to KO percentage then there no doubt that Gervonta do have it yet you can really foreseen its sheer power basing on of that percentage but i do disagree on the point you had said that
experience doesnt matter? No it is a big factor because you cant easily outboxed someone that do had much better experience that you are. Number of fights gaps does really counts because he wont able to
pile up those numbers if he's not good enough but well we can presume that younger and having some strong punching power will really have that kind of chance and can close up the gaps.
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