Topic: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17 - page 8. (Read 2907 times)

Crorrect. Promoters will dwell to whatever forms of venue to accumulate money. They'll seen that fans due to boresome from this current pandemic might be interested with such types of fights.

Better not to buy this as the honor of this sports already at risk, there are real boxers who needs support and they spend time to train and to showcase their skills and talents.

Let them harvest the fruit of thier works.

 thats the trend these days. because they cant generate gate income, what these promoters are hoping for is to get viewers from the respective followers of these fighters and hoping that they will buy PPVs, . at least earn a living while still in pandemic. maybe this trend will change once we get back to normal and people can watch again in the arena. til then, these promoters will find a way how to attract boxing fans to sell the fight.

So it looks like this fight is going to happen before the Mayweather fight now?  I feel like the ground is crumbling beneath these weird 'celebrity' matches.  I sure hope we get to see some actual exciting matchups before this fad disappears into nonexistence.  I feel like Jose Canseco's pathetic dive knockout might have signaled the peak of this nonsense, but I sure hope we see some big 200+pounder get a crack at Mayweather before all is said and done.

I have seen Jake Paul scratching as i cannot call them professional boxers even though the record books shows that, the boxing commission would allow any journeyman to compete as a boxer if you are new to the sport and he won both of his bouts by knockout which means he has power in his hands, Ben Askren is never known to be a hard puncher nor a technical stand up fighter and if Jake could land a clean punch the tide will turn against Askren.

I definitely understands it, I am not even aware at first that Jake Paul was a professional boxer, I thought the fight against Nate Robinson was a pure exhibition game but when I read some news about the fight, it was written there that it was Jake Pau's 2nd win as a professional boxer, so I have already put that in my mind that he really is a professional.

So for the record, for those who have not followed Jake Paul's career.

1st fight was against a youtubeer
2nd fight was against a former NBA player.

Although, technically true his record, and status doesn't really tell the whole story. Yeah, he is a professional boxer, and yeah he does have a 2-0 record all of which ended in TKO/KO. However, they were not against traditional professional boxers, in fact I believe it was difficult to find a commissioning body to authorize them for professional boxing (no head guards) not all states that were approached were willing to do so. Plus, he didn't fight other professional boxers really, he fought in a "white collar" type event in which the opponents were not professional boxers previously to this event. Plus, its highly likely that the opponents that he has faced will never have a professional boxing match ever again, as this was a one off event.

So, although the MMA world is probably sweating it right now, Jake does have a reasonable excuse, and any outcome isn't going to overly damage his reputation. If he gets brutally knocked out, and doesn't land a glove then that might make him become a "meme", but its not really going to effect his chances of progressing further into boxing if he wanted too.

He can't make that excuse because he himself is a professional boxer, FYI, his record is 2-0, all win by KO>

source : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Paul

This is already a lost cause for Ben Askren, he may win the match but at the end of the day, he won against a Youtuber, whereas Jake can just simply say he was bodied by a professional fighter in case he loses. A much more humiliating defeat will ensue if Askren loses to Jake which I hope don't happen for MMA's sake. Only thing Askren is going to get back from this would be the money, other than that Jake will be getting the fame.

He's definitely known for his wrestling more than his striking. Ben is a very good wrestler in fact, and that's why hes been in with the big names, such as the mentioned Masvidal. The thing is, he's never been known for his boxing...well that's not entirely true, hes been criticized before for being a one dimensional fighter, and relying on his wrestling. Although, I'm not sure how one can criticize that as wrestling is in fact quite versatile, and seems to be the bane of some of the greatest fighters we've seen in the UFC. Its why I think Khabib has been so successful, other than being a fantastic wrestler himself, some of his opponents were known for their striking ability, and not their wrestling.

However, in this fight it comes down to striking. Ben we know didn't have the best striking in the MMA scene, but that doesn't mean hes going to be bad when compared with Jake. Looking at Jake he has decent technique, but that will go out of the window once hes gets pressured by Ben, because Ben certainly isn't going to be afraid of getting tagged. This pressure is what I think will cause Jake the most problems, since he hasn't really been training long enough to solidify that muscle memory which comes from years, and years of practice, especially when your getting hit back.

In all of his fights, he hasn't been hit back, so we really don't know what to expect once he does. For anyone thinking that Ben simply won't land, I personally think they are overlooking Ben. Ben will catch Jake, and he will be a test despite his apparent lack of ability striking.

For the sake of MMA saving face, I'm really hoping that Ben puts Jake away early in the fight. However, Jake likely won't just disappear, he'll just say he lost to a professional fighter. Its a win, win for Jake. Whereas, all Ben benefits from this is the money involved, which is likely swayed heavily in Jake's favour, since a few other fighters like Bisping were also approached, and made counter offers.

That's the Ben Askren, if my knowledge serves, it is against Masvidal. I don't know about Askren specializing in wrestling being a problem, in my opinion it is not a problem, Askren got a 19-2 record to back up his reputation although the Masvidal's knee kick really did him good. No matter what we are hoping for, people that support Jake Paul will buy those tickets and other people who wants to watch it will always buy one, one thing that I hope is that it is for charity.

At the end of the day, Ben is a professional fighter that's been tested extensively over his period of fighting. Hes a decent fighter, maybe not someone to get overly excited about, but hes not going to be a pushover. The concerning part is; hes not predominantly a striker, and has spent most of his time wrestling, and has been beaten convincingly in the stand up game. However, we don't really know how well Jake is at throwing hands. At the end of the day, he's fought another Youtuber, and a basketball player. He's looked good I guess, but its easy to look good against those that haven't trained for longer than him. The basketball player did not look like he had a clue on how to fight, how to gauge distance or anything really. It was comical, although you'd expect that, at his profession Basketball he would have schooled Jake. So, what I'm trying to say is Ben wasn't the best striker in MMA, but he was against other professional fighters, and its always harder than being in a fight with a Youtuber. I think the whole MMA scene is hoping that Ben doesn't lose, or at least not convincingly.

I just can't see him losing convincingly. He's a professional fighter, and has taken a few beatdowns in his life that's for sure. However, I don't think Jake will have the power, or the volume to bother Ben in that regard. This fight is determined whether or not Ben can land punches. If he can, I think Jake will be the one in trouble, if not Ben's going to have an headache, as I absolutely cannot see him getting knocked out by Jake.

I haven't checked the odds yet, and I'm not even sure I'm going to watch this event yet. However, I suspect that Ben might have some decent odds despite his professional background?

Anything that makes money is good especially PPV because of restrictions to large gatherings, I imagine many industries are struggling with unforeseen revenue failure like this.   I cant blame them for going with anything that works and its labelled exhibition so nobody should be complaining its compromising the sport especially as its not designed to be more then entertainment in a very difficult couple of years.


I think they are good either way, obviously dont get destroyed in this match would be best but losing even Im not sure is a bad result so long as the desired result occurs which is to garner ticket sales and bring in some money from punters.   If they get the sales then both boxers are gaining from the fight and everyone is happy, if its flaky, unreliable and short unentertaining match then maybe its not likely repeated but I dont think this is meant to be absolutely serious in determining anyone's career.   Jake Paul is clearly just trying to become mainstream from a more virtual acting type sphere, hopefully they both do the training and preparation not to get worn out too early.

Arranging up these kind of fights did become quite common on last year and up to now,is this the new way on milking out for ppv sales? Imagine that Mike Tyson  and Jones Jr. didnt really generate that much
even these people  are  known legendaries on boxing world but still not enough on getting recognition.They do still make money  though but  for sure it isnt on something that they were expecting.

thats what am thinking. if this is like more of exhibition fight, then at least send some proceeds to any charity org. at least make this worthwhile, right? or are we seeing greedy promoters and boxers here? we all know they are just like "substandard" boxers, one of them is not even a prof boxer. not really worth to pay ppv for them, imo. but we cant deny the fact that they have loyal followers so they will be banking on those followers to earn from this fight.

Yeah, but hes also fought before with that eye, or lack  of eye if you will. Bisping is a machine, and I love the guy. He's probably one of my all time favorite MMA fighters, and hes not a bad commentator either. I do think Bisping would have pieced him up, but I'm not as confident that Ben will. Its a boxing match, and its slightly different to what Ben is used too. Ben, is a wrestler by heart, and unless he can significantly improve his stand up game, I  feel this could be a landslide, with Ben just getting punished.

I don't think Jake is going to KO Ben though. Jake has only fought celebrities before, and I think he thinks its going to be just as easy to knock out a pro.

As for Logan, he at least seems to have made up for his mistake. I don't really believe in branding someone as something when they've only made a mistake. He was a young kid, and doesn't pull the same acts as he used too, so I'm willing to forgive that. Obviously, the family of the man, and those that saw it can have different opinions, but I think he's largely won his reputation back.

I don't think they are planning anything like that.

This is purely a match and the benefits will be taken by these two "boxers" the same with the producers and "business managers" of this fight. I don't like these kinds of matches where a "boxer" would just fight anyone who he wanted to fight. Is this how easy it is to earn money right now? Still, hoping they would be sending some funds to a charity they will be choosing.

According to the betting odds, the fight is not a mismatch.

Look at the betting odds in https://www.covers.com/boxing/jake-paul-ben-askren-odds, it doesn't look like a mismatch.



The odds tells us about the real chances of the game, not those bias articles we read, so even if Jake Paul is obviously the favorites, but I don't call it a mismatch.

I guess Ben could get free stickers from here and add to his sports wear lol

As this is all about "fun and money", Jakes brother fight Floyd Mayweather, I wonder if Paul family has other relatives that once to fight? About 23-24 years ago (dont remember precisely) I've trained Taekwondo for a year and got a yellow belt. I can fight Pauls family member wearing bitcointalk.org temporary tattoo

I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

I didn't know Ben  is a crypto enthusiast, I'm glad to see that picture, it's a big help to promote bitcoin to the public.

Actually it would be nice if some big crypto holders would help to promote the fight, I actually saw a fight before an MMA fight that there was a crypto picture displayed in the ring, I just don't know the exact name of crypto but I'm sure it's a crypto coin since I keep checking the market regularly.