Topic: [Boxing] Jason Moloney vs Vincent Astrolabio WBO 118lbs Title (May 13) - page 2. (Read 498 times)

I didn't watch the fight live, but I was able to watch a replay of the fight, in the first round it looked like Moloney was at a slight disadvantage, Astrolabio remained in the center to corner Moloney, but then Astrolabio started to gain ground and also remained in the center and managed to land a few punches on Astrolabio's face, with Moloney remaining in the center Astrolabio was forced to retreat further, but then Astrolabio started his much more aggressive counterattack and landed some punches on his opponent, but strangely that I saw the Astrolabe being better than Moloney

Astrolabio seemed to put more pressure on his opponent who I honestly don't understand why he lost, at least in the replay video I watched it seemed to me that Astrolabio deserved to come out of this fight with a victory, even in the many comments I read nobody agreed with the victory of Moloney, it's a very strange decision by the judges, in my opinion the judges should have declared Astrolabio the winner, but in the end their decision is final and only they know what led them to decide in favor of Moloney, the fact is that this decision by the judges generated negative comments, most of the comments I read do not agree with this decision

I did not get a chance to watch the match because I'm on the road and my phone was off, I only get to watch the highlight I agree it should be a draw but this is a championship fight there should be a winner, Astrolabio chance is a knock out since this is in a foreign soil so the title goes to Moloney.
Moloney is not a tough champion he can be beaten by Donaire if ever they meet in the ring he is beatable and there are a lot of flaws to his style, he is not even a hard puncher.

I watch the replay and I think Astrolabio wasn't starting slow, actually he was aggressive and always catch Moloney. Moloney is a counter puncher here and he punch less than Astrolabio. Although Moloney's punch is more accurate, but he only punch Astrolabio few times, not really deserved he's become a winner.

At least it should be a draw, or Astrolabio win with a close scorecard 115-113.

In this game of boxing, Astrolabio should be the one who needs to be more aggressive and preferably score a knockdown at least 2 in that fight for him to clearly win it but he seems to have a hard time finding his rhythm and scoring a power punch that is enough to knock down Moloney. If this was Donaire, I think he could easily beat Moloney against that performance because of Donaire's speed and power, he could quickly catch him and throw a lethal powerful punch that will gonna seriously hurt him.

But the thing is that Moloney has been drop by the WBC in their rankings. So not sure even if Moloney is the champion now, that they will allow their rank boxers to cross over the WBO and fight Moloney. You know, boxing politics, but I guess when their is money for both WBO and WBC they might have to sit down and settle and allow it to happen.

We shall wait first for the Donaire vs Santiago, at least we have filled one of the belts that Inoue has left. So it's time for other governing body to step up and also put a champion in their organization.

Moloney won't be able to do that against Donaire because Donaire has the reach advantage. He will be the aggressor once he faces Donaire, and based on his performance in this fight, I wouldn't be surprised if Donaire scores a knockdown or even a knockout. It was a great fight for Astrolabio; I thought he would win, but since Moloney is the more popular name, the outcome of the fight was already expected.

Let's follow Moloney's journey. It would be nice if he shows bravery and gives Donaire a chance to fight him, in case Donaire's fight with Santiago doesn't push through.

But I'm not convinced by the performance of Moloney though, and for sure some of us here might agree with me.

And I'm not surprised at all why at any cost Moloney wanted no part of Donaire even they said that Nonito is old already. From this fight, Moloney is not impressive and it Astrolabio has just the final kick in this fight he could have won by a knockout.

But I guess Moloney is satisfied circling around and trying to avoid the power of Vincent and score a victory but very close in the judges card.

Just to help you, here's the fight highlights of Moloney vs Astrolabio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX2PWMTX4d4

Seeing the replay did not really convinced me that Moloney won that fight, I know that I'm leaning towards the Filipino boxer but I'm not that biased, it's just that the scoring wasn't that on-point. Majority Decision was correct but the winner is not, and you can see why people who watched the fight live are not satisfied by the result as they boo-ed Moloney and the judges after the winner was announced.

I also looked on the comments below and I'm not that surprised to see that many fans are not that swayed by the result either. There was no significant performance made by Moloney and he was just practically cycling around the ring when he tasted Astrolabio's punch.

That's what exactly happens, Astrolabio try to rally in the later rounds and actually went for a knockout in the last two rounds but Moloney's defense won't let him, it's a majority decision win for Moloney, so we have a new champion in the WBO version hopefully Donaire will have a fight for the other versions because he can possibly beat all the top boxers in the 118 lbs.
I still believe that Astrolabio will have a chance to win a title in the future this is a learning experience for him.

That's an opportunity he wasted; he could have been the champion by now. Well, as of this moment, Moloney has already become a champion, while Donaire is still waiting for his fight to be scheduled. If Donaire wins, is there any possibility that Moloney and Donaire will have an immediate unification fight?

I also wasn't able to watch the fight, but I bet on Vincent Astrolabio to win by ML.

So perhaps if Vincent should have done more in the second half of the fight, he could have won here. But we can't do anything about it now, just another lessons for him and maybe he will get another chance in the future to crack for the belt again.

From what I read Astrolabio started very slow and allowing Moloney to dictate the game and it was like at the start of round 7 that he started to very aggressive but it was late as Moloney has piled points already from the judges scorecard.

I was not able to watch the fight but we have a winner.



source : https://www.facebook.com/ESPNKnockOut/

I need to watch the replay to see how Moloney won this fight. I believe he had a good chance of winning since he was the slight favorite, and it seems like he made the right decision by avoiding Donaire. I'm curious to see how he managed to secure the victory.

Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise for Vincent, but in any case, another Filipino that Moloney will have to win and get over to be able to claim that vacant belt so not going to be easy.


He is not a huge underdog base on the odds, so chances are high for him to pull a big win and upset Moloney and see another Filipino belt holder. But it won't be easy as Moloney has also set his eyes for the belt ever since Inoue move up. One thing can can be positive is that Astrolabio is not afraid to go toe to toe and if Moloney fight that way, then he will be chin tested by Vincent and who knows, maybe he can go down here.

It's good to see that there is a thread because this is a title fight. On paper, this fight is more appealing than Janibek's title defense, although I can understand that he is the main event because he is hyped as the next star from Kazakhstan since GGG is old already and might even not return to the ring. His opponent is also popular in Canada and is a KO artist, probably the next David Lemieux?

Back to the Astrolabio vs Moloney, I did not really expect this match to happen. Bob Arum perfectly made the right move canceling the previous Donaire fight since the guy is being handled by a promoter with issues from US authorities. We don't even know when old Donaire is fighting. But earlier, Astrolabio was thought to face another PBC fighter, ex-champ Emmanuel Rodriguez for the vacant IBF. It's surprising that he is now facing a Top Rank fighter, it would've been Raymart Gaballo facing Moloney tomorrow.

Anyways, I hope Astrolabio can pull a big win. This is not an easy fight but he needs to win rounds convincingly as he is fighting against the event promoter's fighter. I think it was unnecessary to bring a kangaroo stuff toy and trash-talk Moloney because the Aussie is not intimidated and is unaffected. But it showed Astrolabio's confidence in this fight. But he should stay focused and stay away from unnecessary stunts once inside the ring because Moloney is not old Rigo and he carries a KO punch in both hands.

 
More betting options for this fight have been posted just a day before their official weigh-in. Here are some:

Stake.com | Jason Moloney vs Vincent Astrolabio
Sportsbet.io | Jason Moloney vs Vincent Astrolabio

From the slightest favorite, Jason Moloney now elevated being the Favorite. Don't know how the Moneyline odds adjusted from close one to quite distant.

Both boxers already face off each other at the press conference and it seems Astrolabio is more on being cocky while Moloney is just calm lol. Later in the day, they will now meet up on their official weigh-in, and hopefully, no weight issues and problems will occur at both parties.

Very well said. It's not that Astrolabio is underestimating Moloney because of his defeat against Rodriguez and Inoue, they just view it as their own advantage because they have more fights to refer and to see which points they should consider to increase their winning chance compared to Moloney's position because his opponent, Astrolabio, have losses much earlier in his career so it will be hard for them to consider that as there will be some improvements along the years that have passed.

Well, these two certainly got their own reasons why they agreed on this fight because I don't really think that Moloney himself didn't see something from Astrolabio that he think he can take advantage and make his chances stronger. They can point their fingers as long as they want but the fact will not change, both of them will have to prove their existence in the industry and fight for the belt they wanted.

Didn't notice that this fight is so near already, hope you guys already placed your bets.

On the contrary, it was Moloney who says that Vincent and his team thought that he is an easier fight for Astrolabio, as compare to Emmanuel Rodriguez and that's why they go that route.

Rodriguez beat Moloney before, and this according to Jason could be the reason why Vincent Astrolabio and his camp chooses him instead of Rodriguez. But in any case, Moloney is the slight favorite so it's not a easier fight for Vincent here. This fight is going to happen this weekend, so another good one store for us and we will see a new champion after this fight.

Vincent is one underdog that has a good chance of winning the title, his match against Rigondeaux is one good experience and is enough to prepare him for a championship fight, not to mention he is coming from a big win and an impressive one against Potapov, he has a good arsenal, he is good in going to the body his last fight against Potapov ended by giving him a good liver punch where Potapov cannot get up, I'm sure Vincent will employ the same strategy he'll go to the body to gain momentums

At first, we can assume that Moloney's camp backed out against Donaire due to ducking and instead chose an easy path by facing Astrolabio.

But if we look deeply, it looks like it has something to do with promotional issues. Top Rank CEO Bob Arum who holds Moloney, I believed cut ties and avoid doing transactions with Probellum because of Daniel's Kinahan issue. Just my guess though.


He really should. We are talking about fighting against Jason Moloney here and for those who didn't know, he's the top contender and ranked 1st by the WBC in the Bantamweight division (118) before being dropped out. Upon entering the WBO ranking list, being ranked 1st right away.