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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.

Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.

Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win.

Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds.

We might have to admit it, Moloney on the record is the better boxer here, but as we can Astrolabio is slowly getting on that level. And he wouldn't be in this position if he hasn't had that inside of him, winning against tougher opponents to put him in the second rank behind Moloney.

Thanks for the odds, so yes, it's just slight advantage for Moloney and for me, still a 50/50 fight and Vincent regardless of the odds could pull another upset and may become a champion, just saying. I might be biased, but I will put my money on Vincent here as he is a good and live underdog.

The odds are actually not that far from each other. So it means, the bookies are considering the skills of Astrolabio.
Because if Moloney is highly considered as the favorite, the odds will be like 1.0x, 1.1 or 1.2x odds.
In any case, we will see the real action in couple of days and see if Astro really has something to offer.
Remember, he is a Filipino boxer, and Filipino boxers are known to be one of the toughest inside the ring.
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.

Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.

Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win.

Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds.

We might have to admit it, Moloney on the record is the better boxer here, but as we can Astrolabio is slowly getting on that level. And he wouldn't be in this position if he hasn't had that inside of him, winning against tougher opponents to put him in the second rank behind Moloney.

Thanks for the odds, so yes, it's just slight advantage for Moloney and for me, still a 50/50 fight and Vincent regardless of the odds could pull another upset and may become a champion, just saying. I might be biased, but I will put my money on Vincent here as he is a good and live underdog.
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.

Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.

Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win.

Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds.

Even the sports bookies are not that sure whom to root because both boxers got a fair chance in winning the vacant WBO belt but because of the fact that Moloney is much more known and fought the likes of Inoue, they listed him as the favorite. That just shows that Vincent here is not that behind, he just need to present what he is made of because this kind of opportunity may not be with him soon if he will not take advantage of this.

Rooting for the Filipino boxer as well, going to take advantage of the line while he is still the underdog.
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This is what you call betting with emotions, hehe... Well, I guess I will also jump on the bandwagon and root for the Filipino to win, just to support the boxer. But what will happen if the Filipino wins and Donaire also wins his respective fight? Then we will have three Filipino champions in the same division: Donaire, Tapales, and Astrolabio.
Donaire and Astrolabio are in bantamweight division, while Tapales is in super bantamweight division.

Even Astrolabio will win in this fight, I don't think Donaire will want to fight with him because like you said both of them are from the same country that make not many people are interested to watch it. Donaire fight against Santiago isn't really clear too because there's no bookie add the fight and there's no upcoming news.
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I am tailing the bet for Vincent Astrolabio here and there's no regret even if he loses.

This is what you call betting with emotions, hehe... Well, I guess I will also jump on the bandwagon and root for the Filipino to win, just to support the boxer. But what will happen if the Filipino wins and Donaire also wins his respective fight? Then we will have three Filipino champions in the same division: Donaire, Tapales, and Astrolabio.
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.

Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.

Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win.

Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds.
Yes, that's actually true, Moloney is the better boxer here and there's no doubt many gamblers will support him in this fight. It's either Filipinos who will bet for Astrolabio or those who want to take some risk.
I am tailing the bet for Vincent Astrolabio here and there's no regret even if he loses. I want to take my chances for another Filipino to win a title and make them popular again in the world of boxing after the recent rest of no title holders for a year maybe, or more.
Marlon Tapales already stepped up his game, I think Astrolabio will do so after he saw his fellow countryman win and I do believe that can boost his confidence to also do the same.
This will not be an easy fight, Moloney avoided Donaire for a reason, but if Astrolabia keeps on being aggressive, he might snatch it thru UD or SD.
Good luck to us.
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.

Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.

Actually, I didn't know that Vincent Astrolabio is a Filipino until you mentioned it in your comment. Well, at first, I believed that Maloney is the better boxer, but I'm going to be biased here and root for Vincent Astrolabio to win.

Astrolabio may be the underdog, but he is only a slight underdog since, based on the betting odds, he has a 2.08 odds of winning while Moloney has 1.72 odds.
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For Vincent Astrolabio this fight is not really that hard because he used to fight that kind of style of opponent all the time and also a good exposure for him since Moloney is a worthy opponent to give his all. He needs to put on a show here because this is his chance to shine and might be the best way to train harder to beat Moloney.

Pilipino boxers are always known for upsetting their opponents being an underdog and this one is no exception only in Vincent Astrolabio will gonna work harder in his training because if it's not, he will be the one to lose this fight.
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. I'm also interested in watching this fight, which will be in less than a week. Hopefully, someone here will share a free live streaming link.



After losing to Inoue I don't think he is ready to face Donaire who although also lose his match against Inoue is still dangerous, so he goes the easy way by fighting the unpopular but dangerous Astrolabio who can perform better than Donaire because he is coming from winning streak, I'd like to see their face off and weigh in, which is going to happen next week.
There's a big possibility that the 118 lbs will have two champions because this is a known territory of the Filipinos after Inoue conquer all the titles.
Asian in general, because this is where they really excel and compare to bigger weights wherein it was American and Mexicans. So in any case, it's good for Filipinos though, we have Astrolabio, and then Donaire and Gaballo if I'm not mistaken, campaigning in this division and has a chance as well for the belt in one of those divisions.

Moloney shouldn't underestimate Astrolabio here, his records might not be good, but I think Vincent has learn from his early defeats that why he is not on the brink on winning a belt. It's not how you start, it's how you going to finished your career and for me Vincent is just about to his his peak.
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. I'm also interested in watching this fight, which will be in less than a week. Hopefully, someone here will share a free live streaming link.



After losing to Inoue I don't think he is ready to face Donaire who although also lose his match against Inoue is still dangerous, so he goes the easy way by fighting the unpopular but dangerous Astrolabio who can perform better than Donaire because he is coming from winning streak, I'd like to see their face off and weigh in, which is going to happen next week.
There's a big possibility that the 118 lbs will have two champions because this is a known territory of the Filipinos after Inoue conquer all the titles.

Yes, bantamweight has been a comfortable division for the most Filipino boxers except Manny Pacquiao as he managed to go up as far as welterweight division, and still brought his speed and power with him. John Riel Casimero came from this weight class too but it's just that his weight is not suitable anymore to stay, he could've been one of the title chaser if he's still at 118.

Back to the fight, this is okay because Moloney thinks he can conquer this belt easily just because Vincent Astrolabio is not that known and doesn't have good names in his record. But just like what the poll here suggests, Astrolabio got a good chance to win and we might see another upset made by a Filipino boxer.
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. I'm also interested in watching this fight, which will be in less than a week. Hopefully, someone here will share a free live streaming link.



After losing to Inoue I don't think he is ready to face Donaire who although also lose his match against Inoue is still dangerous, so he goes the easy way by fighting the unpopular but dangerous Astrolabio who can perform better than Donaire because he is coming from winning streak, I'd like to see their face off and weigh in, which is going to happen next week.
There's a big possibility that the 118 lbs will have two champions because this is a known territory of the Filipinos after Inoue conquer all the titles.
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.
I think Moloney is afraid of Donaire. He was probably looking for an easier way to become a champion, and maybe he thinks that Astrolabio is not as good as Donaire. I'm also interested in watching this fight, which will be in less than a week. Hopefully, someone here will share a free live streaming link.


It's hard to choose a winner since I'm not very familiar with them, and I won't be placing any bets, but I'm definitely going to watch this fight. Who knows, the winner here might unify with Donaire if he wins.
Just don't risk your money though, you can still enjoy without betting if you aren't sure.
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Although I'm not very familiar with these boxers, I believe that they have almost equal skills based on the betting odds. The name Moloney rings a bell for me because he was supposed to fight Donaire, but he backed out and chose another opponent instead.

It's hard to choose a winner since I'm not very familiar with them, and I won't be placing any bets, but I'm definitely going to watch this fight. Who knows, the winner here might unify with Donaire if he wins.
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ML is already good bet for Vincent if that is the case, and for sure majority of us will go with the underdog as we can smell a upset here if Moloney is not careful or think that Astrolabio is a easy opponent.

Maybe as the fight gets closer, there could be a lot of options for us. But for now, almost doubling our money for a Astrolabio bet? it's already very attractive. And for sure Filipinos are going to stay tune and watch this fight because it could be another world champion for him waiting to happen.

There's not much changes on the odds for this fight, almost even though Moloney is the slight favorite but the number is not significant.

Yeah, doubling our money by betting on Vincent is already a good option but as the fight goes near, i am sure that there will be other options/markets for this fight but i would stick to my plan to bet on the ML odds.

Just hoping that it would still be an upset this time favoring the Filipino pug.
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Nice creating this thread, kabayan. It's a must-thread, especially for those PH boxing enthusiasts here.

Just a recap for others, Jason Moloney is the former Rank 1 by the WBC in the 118 lbs division and supposedly, he's the one who will face the rank 2, Nonito Donaire Jr. for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title that is being vacated by Naoya Inoue who now moved up to 122 lbs. Moving forward, Moloney's camp withdraws from the supposed fight with Donaire without detailed information about the reason (there is a reason but not sure if that's accurate as per most boxing fans think). WBC drops Moloney on their ranking list and opt-in instead to face Vincent Astrolabio.

Let's see if Jason Moloney's camp did a good choice on "avoiding" Donaire Jr. and took Astrolabio instead.
He might think Astrolabia is the easiest way around. I wish this becomes an upset too. I don't like the avoiding part that Jason Moloney did against Nonito Donaire Jr. because The Flash was ready and just waiting for the fight date and he is also expecting to meet him in the ring for the vacant title. Most boxing analysts also did expect that match to happen.
Jason Moloney 1.81
Vincent Astrolabio 1.97
It's not far. So, people are also expecting Astrolabio to upset Moloney here just by using the odds as the basis for it. The other bets are not yet available like KO/TKO win and unanimous decision. I'd love to make a bet but I will wait for the other options to come out and will surely bet for Astrolabio's side either UD or KO.
ML is already good bet for Vincent if that is the case, and for sure majority of us will go with the underdog as we can smell a upset here if Moloney is not careful or think that Astrolabio is a easy opponent.

Maybe as the fight gets closer, there could be a lot of options for us. But for now, almost doubling our money for a Astrolabio bet? it's already very attractive. And for sure Filipinos are going to stay tune and watch this fight because it could be another world champion for him waiting to happen.
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Nice creating this thread, kabayan. It's a must-thread, especially for those PH boxing enthusiasts here.

Just a recap for others, Jason Moloney is the former Rank 1 by the WBC in the 118 lbs division and supposedly, he's the one who will face the rank 2, Nonito Donaire Jr. for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title that is being vacated by Naoya Inoue who now moved up to 122 lbs. Moving forward, Moloney's camp withdraws from the supposed fight with Donaire without detailed information about the reason (there is a reason but not sure if that's accurate as per most boxing fans think). WBC drops Moloney on their ranking list and opt-in instead to face Vincent Astrolabio.

Let's see if Jason Moloney's camp did a good choice on "avoiding" Donaire Jr. and took Astrolabio instead.
He might think Astrolabia is the easiest way around. I wish this becomes an upset too. I don't like the avoiding part that Jason Moloney did against Nonito Donaire Jr. because The Flash was ready and just waiting for the fight date and he is also expecting to meet him in the ring for the vacant title. Most boxing analysts also did expect that match to happen.
Jason Moloney 1.81
Vincent Astrolabio 1.97
It's not far. So, people are also expecting Astrolabio to upset Moloney here just by using the odds as the basis for it. The other bets are not yet available like KO/TKO win and unanimous decision. I'd love to make a bet but I will wait for the other options to come out and will surely bet for Astrolabio's side either UD or KO.
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I voted Astrolabio to win this match because of both fighter's previous fights, I made it a reference because a boxer's last and previous fights will have an impact on his coming fight, so Astrolabio is coming on big wins against a Russian, and a former champion Rigondeaux, while Moloney is coming on a devastated knock out loss against Inoue, so one is coming from a winning momentum while the other is from recovery so I prefer the one coming from good wins than coming from a knockout, I hope my prediction will come true.
Anyway, both fighters deserve to be a champion because they both have good records.

But Rigo is way out of league compared to Naoya Inoue, so that is somehow incomparable because their recent fights aren't really the same. But I would like to add that Moloney's defeat against the Japanese monster will be a good thing in Astrolabio's camp as they will have a better understanding how to upset the favorite compared to the opposite camp where they have to dig old archives because Astrolabio's defeat was way back 2018 when the Filipino boxer was still in super-flyweight and I reckon that it's not really usable because Astrolabio has improved since that loss.
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There is a lot of hype going on in the Philippines, especially in light of the fact that it is the most watched show on TV right now.
The biggest problem is that most Filipinos don't have access to TV, which is a shame because they are used to watching shows that are on the air all the time. This has been the case for a long time, but it is no longer the case.
In the Philippines, there are a lot of things that go on in the media, like political correctness, fake news, etc. The most popular shows are the ones that have nothing to do with politics, but are a part of the entertainment industry.
So, you can see that there is a lot of hype going on in the media, but that is not enough to get people to pay attention to the fights and make a judgement based on what is going on in the media.
I am going to try to answer your questions in a way that you can understand, and I hope this will help you in your decision.

1. How much money do you have to pay to get a fight?
2. What is the difference between boxing and boxing-related fights?
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I voted Astrolabio to win this match because of both fighter's previous fights, I made it a reference because a boxer's last and previous fights will have an impact on his coming fight, so Astrolabio is coming on big wins against a Russian, and a former champion Rigondeaux, while Moloney is coming on a devastated knock out loss against Inoue, so one is coming from a winning momentum while the other is from recovery so I prefer the one coming from good wins than coming from a knockout, I hope my prediction will come true.
Anyway, both fighters deserve to be a champion because they both have good records.
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Nice creating this thread, kabayan. It's a must-thread, especially for those PH boxing enthusiasts here.

Just a recap for others, Jason Moloney is the former Rank 1 by the WBC in the 118 lbs division and supposedly, he's the one who will face the rank 2, Nonito Donaire Jr. for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title that is being vacated by Naoya Inoue who now moved up to 122 lbs. Moving forward, Moloney's camp withdraws from the supposed fight with Donaire without detailed information about the reason (there is a reason but not sure if that's accurate as per most boxing fans think). WBC drops Moloney on their ranking list and opt-in instead to face Vincent Astrolabio.

Let's see if Jason Moloney's camp did a good choice on "avoiding" Donaire Jr. and took Astrolabio instead.
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