[BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson - page 13.

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Quote from: m2017 on February 08, 2022, 02:23:57 AM

I have big doubts about the highlighted text. As far as I remember, he and other boxers who were deceived by promoters started a community to counter this and keep newbies from falling into similar stories like them. There are quite a few such athletes used by promoters as mercenary and financially deceived. Also, one should not forget that Tyson's considerable fortune was taken by his wife after the divorce. Of course, Mike had large incomes, but there were also enough financial losses. Such sportsmen, who have gone into circulation like him, grab any opportunity to earn money in this vein, his refusal to fight also seems strange to me. Maybe he started having health problems, because he is already quite a few years old?

You're right about that, Tyson needs money.
You can find a lot of articles about his financial problems. He's not poor, but he could use money from the fight, that's for sure. Last time I checked he had a weed plantation.

Mike Tyson, who was once worth up to about $400 million, declared bankruptcy even before he retired in 2003. Tyson has said he squandered much of his fortune on extravagant purchases including jewelry, cars, and Siberian tigers. After spending time in jail following a rape conviction, and dealing with a wealth of other problems, Tyson has slowly recovered. But he is still worth a fraction of what he once was

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 08, 2022, 07:12:26 AM

I'm already confused whether this fight will take place or not. As practice shows there is no point in trusting articles from sports columnists as they also do not check rumors for authenticity but only spread the same information. I checked Mike Tyson's Instagram but I couldn't find any answer there either.

If it is not announced officially, there are no venue, sponsors, places where to buy tickets and etc, then there is no use hoping that this fight will happen in next half a year or next year. With all these covid crap, it is not easy to organize the event of such a size in several months. To be able to pay fighters their honorarium, massive promotion campaign must be carried out. If there are just articles, then the fight is not even close to happen imho. Both potential fighters does not seems to be preparing to a fight, according to their instagrams. And for a professional boxing fight, you cant just ran 1-3 weeks training camp and step into the ring.

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I'm already confused whether this fight will take place or not. As practice shows there is no point in trusting articles from sports columnists as they also do not check rumors for authenticity but only spread the same information. I checked Mike Tyson's Instagram but I couldn't find any answer there either.

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Tyson probably hasn't got so much money he doesn't need to collect the prize fee for this but there is the question of good management and as ex world champion respected probably forever in his achievements, does it really do him good overall to take this fight. He has alternate prospects more attractive then a play fight. There is also the lucky punch aspect which I dont think happens but there's the chance he ends up looking worse off from a wild lucky punch plus training for a fight is a massive deal to put your body through so I don't blame him for skipping if not fully motivated.

By the way, the question about money is quite interesting. Of course Mike Tyson doesn't need money like regular people, but he's not rich enough either (at least based on his sports earnings). I remember how he parted with Don King with scandal and said that all his money had slipped through his fingers, and such dealers as Don King made millions on him. Now in one fight he can earn as much as he used to earn in several championship fights. Why refuse it? I do not understand.

I have big doubts about the highlighted text. As far as I remember, he and other boxers who were deceived by promoters started a community to counter this and keep newbies from falling into similar stories like them. There are quite a few such athletes used by promoters as mercenary and financially deceived. Also, one should not forget that Tyson's considerable fortune was taken by his wife after the divorce. Of course, Mike had large incomes, but there were also enough financial losses. Such sportsmen, who have gone into circulation like him, grab any opportunity to earn money in this vein, his refusal to fight also seems strange to me. Maybe he started having health problems, because he is already quite a few years old?

I think the highlighted text is mainly that Mike Tyson, despite being very rich, went bankrupt in 2003 because of his luxury life. Fortunately, he managed to get out of all the financial problems and is again a wealthy man. However, he still has a soft spot for spending money on stupid things. It is obvious that when the opportunity to make such easy money comes, Mike will not miss it, and I am sure that this fight will take place. It is possible that he is simply trying to negotiate more money.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 02, 2022, 11:08:01 AM

Quote from: STT on February 01, 2022, 08:04:29 PM

Tyson probably hasn't got so much money he doesn't need to collect the prize fee for this but there is the question of good management and as ex world champion respected probably forever in his achievements, does it really do him good overall to take this fight. He has alternate prospects more attractive then a play fight. There is also the lucky punch aspect which I dont think happens but there's the chance he ends up looking worse off from a wild lucky punch plus training for a fight is a massive deal to put your body through so I don't blame him for skipping if not fully motivated.

By the way, the question about money is quite interesting. Of course Mike Tyson doesn't need money like regular people, but he's not rich enough either (at least based on his sports earnings). I remember how he parted with Don King with scandal and said that all his money had slipped through his fingers, and such dealers as Don King made millions on him. Now in one fight he can earn as much as he used to earn in several championship fights. Why refuse it? I do not understand.

I have big doubts about the highlighted text. As far as I remember, he and other boxers who were deceived by promoters started a community to counter this and keep newbies from falling into similar stories like them. There are quite a few such athletes used by promoters as mercenary and financially deceived. Also, one should not forget that Tyson's considerable fortune was taken by his wife after the divorce. Of course, Mike had large incomes, but there were also enough financial losses. Such sportsmen, who have gone into circulation like him, grab any opportunity to earn money in this vein, his refusal to fight also seems strange to me. Maybe he started having health problems, because he is already quite a few years old?

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Quote from: bitgov on February 07, 2022, 06:28:45 PM

It's great that we will be able to watch Mike Tyson again. But if it's just a show like the World Wrestlig Federation, then why all the game with the judges and the results. I know this fight is not of a sporting nature because it won't count for any of them, but if the result is known in advance, why bet on such a fight at all?

There's no official statement released whether there will be referees or not.

If you see the Paul vs Mayweather before, there are no judges and there's even no winner on that fight.

Maybe the same setup if this fight between Tyson and Paul will happen.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 07, 2022, 06:18:31 PM

This fight is not a professional fight. It's an exhibition match and all they need to do is to actually look like they are fighting for several minutes seriously then it's money right away. There's no boxing analysis involved in an exhibition match as both boxers are just there to entertain those people who paid a ticket to watch them.

It's great that we will be able to watch Mike Tyson again. But if it's just a show like the World Wrestlig Federation, then why all the game with the judges and the results. I know this fight is not of a sporting nature because it won't count for any of them, but if the result is known in advance, why bet on such a fight at all?

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Quote from: Hamphser on February 05, 2022, 07:59:45 PM

There are still fans who do love to see for this fight to make it happen

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

But we can't expect that Tyson will go all in in exhibition matches.
Still, his younger days will be different as compared to exhibition fights.
But for the sake of seeing him inside the boxing ring, maybe, that's the consolation among younger gen.
For them to see him once more before he totally becomes out of sight in the boxing industry.

That is true however it is like going to see your favorite band on their last tour, they are not the same as they were before but you still want to see them, even if the time at the top of the heavyweight division was short for Tyson people still remember him as one of the most aggressive fighters we have ever seen, so people want to see a little glimpse of that if they can, after all it will not be long before Tyson will be unable to get in the ring at all due to his age so fans want to see Tyson fight as soon as possible.

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Quote from: Erdogan on February 07, 2022, 04:33:31 PM

Mika Tyson's experience in the ring compared to what Paul Logan can do is like comparing a train to a scooter. The only thing that could make Mike be beaten is he would have to fight 10 or 12 rounds. This could be a problem for him, because I'm afraid that after such a long break, and of course at this age, he may have problems with his physical condition.

You guys no need to talk about his age or being rusty.

This fight is not a professional fight. It's an exhibition match and all they need to do is to actually look like they are fighting for several minutes seriously then it's money right away. There's no boxing analysis involved in an exhibition match as both boxers are just there to entertain those people who paid a ticket to watch them.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2022, 04:10:23 PM

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There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

I don't think that in the current state Tyson is close to what he could before. When I watch old videos, I understand how much he was ahead of his time (at least he was ahead of technical development) because the cameras of those years did not have time to adequately capture his movements. It's like watching hockey on an old TV (if you know what I mean) when you don't see the puck at all. I think that only those who saw those old Tyson fights live understand how fast and strong he was.

Even watching the old videos of Mike Tyson, I can already tell that he is fast and strong. He has bigger opponents but he was able to take him down, the legend really has the talent in boxing, but sometime in his career, he abuse his body and lose discipline that's why he didn't last and he retired early. But still, against a YouTuber, I think he is still too much for Logan Paul.

He wont become popular because of nothing, the only flaw i do see on Mike is on his stamina but when it comes to power and toughness then i dont really have doubts on him.
Even on old age then it would really be still believable that he could still pull some power punches and techniques that he had acquired on years of his boxing career
which even a young man couldnt able to bare out.I do still believe on his power despite of his age but we know that this fight wont push through
because Mike isnt interested to fight Paul.

He is already 55 years old, you can easily say that his stamina cannot beat a younger fighter, however, he has a good skills in boxing, and he can finish this fight early if his opponent are willing to engage and give a toe to toe fight, so let's see if that would be the scenario.

I do doubt on his stamina becomes worst but if Tyson would come serious and Logan wouldnt really be running around on the ring and avoiding as much as he can then there's no doubt
that it could easily deteroriate Mikes stamina but we dont really like to see even on an exhibition game which do involves lot of evasive acts or simply running, right?

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Quote from: TimeTeller on February 06, 2022, 07:56:32 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

Quote from: Hamphser on February 05, 2022, 07:59:45 PM

There are still fans who do love to see for this fight to make it happen

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

But we can't expect that Tyson will go all in in exhibition matches.
Still, his younger days will be different as compared to exhibition fights.
But for the sake of seeing him inside the boxing ring, maybe, that's the consolation among younger gen.
For them to see him once more before he totally becomes out of sight in the boxing industry.

This is an exhibition match and the intention in this match is only for money and there is no intention to kill each other I think.
there is no reason for them to go all out in a match like this because this is their purpose apart from money, which is to trigger and melt the joy of seeing him appear again.
the rest I didn't see anything in this exhibition match

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2022, 04:10:23 PM

He is already 55 years old, you can easily say that his stamina cannot beat a younger fighter, however, he has a good skills in boxing, and he can finish this fight early if his opponent are willing to engage and give a toe to toe fight, so let's see if that would be the scenario.

Mika Tyson's experience in the ring compared to what Paul Logan can do is like comparing a train to a scooter. The only thing that could make Mike be beaten is he would have to fight 10 or 12 rounds. This could be a problem for him, because I'm afraid that after such a long break, and of course at this age, he may have problems with his physical condition.

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Quote from: Fatunad on February 07, 2022, 03:59:25 PM

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

I don't think that in the current state Tyson is close to what he could before. When I watch old videos, I understand how much he was ahead of his time (at least he was ahead of technical development) because the cameras of those years did not have time to adequately capture his movements. It's like watching hockey on an old TV (if you know what I mean) when you don't see the puck at all. I think that only those who saw those old Tyson fights live understand how fast and strong he was.

Even watching the old videos of Mike Tyson, I can already tell that he is fast and strong. He has bigger opponents but he was able to take him down, the legend really has the talent in boxing, but sometime in his career, he abuse his body and lose discipline that's why he didn't last and he retired early. But still, against a YouTuber, I think he is still too much for Logan Paul.

He wont become popular because of nothing, the only flaw i do see on Mike is on his stamina but when it comes to power and toughness then i dont really have doubts on him.
Even on old age then it would really be still believable that he could still pull some power punches and techniques that he had acquired on years of his boxing career
which even a young man couldnt able to bare out.I do still believe on his power despite of his age but we know that this fight wont push through
because Mike isnt interested to fight Paul.

He is already 55 years old, you can easily say that his stamina cannot beat a younger fighter, however, he has a good skills in boxing, and he can finish this fight early if his opponent are willing to engage and give a toe to toe fight, so let's see if that would be the scenario.

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

I don't think that in the current state Tyson is close to what he could before. When I watch old videos, I understand how much he was ahead of his time (at least he was ahead of technical development) because the cameras of those years did not have time to adequately capture his movements. It's like watching hockey on an old TV (if you know what I mean) when you don't see the puck at all. I think that only those who saw those old Tyson fights live understand how fast and strong he was.

Even watching the old videos of Mike Tyson, I can already tell that he is fast and strong. He has bigger opponents but he was able to take him down, the legend really has the talent in boxing, but sometime in his career, he abuse his body and lose discipline that's why he didn't last and he retired early. But still, against a YouTuber, I think he is still too much for Logan Paul.

He wont become popular because of nothing, the only flaw i do see on Mike is on his stamina but when it comes to power and toughness then i dont really have doubts on him.
Even on old age then it would really be still believable that he could still pull some power punches and techniques that he had acquired on years of his boxing career
which even a young man couldnt able to bare out.I do still believe on his power despite of his age but we know that this fight wont push through
because Mike isnt interested to fight Paul.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 07, 2022, 08:56:30 AM

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

I don't think that in the current state Tyson is close to what he could before. When I watch old videos, I understand how much he was ahead of his time (at least he was ahead of technical development) because the cameras of those years did not have time to adequately capture his movements. It's like watching hockey on an old TV (if you know what I mean) when you don't see the puck at all. I think that only those who saw those old Tyson fights live understand how fast and strong he was.

Even watching the old videos of Mike Tyson, I can already tell that he is fast and strong. He has bigger opponents but he was able to take him down, the legend really has the talent in boxing, but sometime in his career, he abuse his body and lose discipline that's why he didn't last and he retired early. But still, against a YouTuber, I think he is still too much for Logan Paul.

Though this fight is already far from reality, I value Mike's experienced against a YouTube personality, which is more on convincing viewers that they can fight; they are just using known people to bring the attentions of those who follow and watch their videos, it's been said from the post above that Mike already declined this fight, maybe if the handlers can give Mike a good reason aside from big paycheck maybe he will sit and discuss this possible exhibition fight.. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: sovie on February 07, 2022, 08:48:37 AM

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

I don't think that in the current state Tyson is close to what he could before. When I watch old videos, I understand how much he was ahead of his time (at least he was ahead of technical development) because the cameras of those years did not have time to adequately capture his movements. It's like watching hockey on an old TV (if you know what I mean) when you don't see the puck at all. I think that only those who saw those old Tyson fights live understand how fast and strong he was.

It will definitely be a pleasure to watch Mika in the ring again. His age is doing its job and it will certainly not be the same as in his prime. I think that this fight, in a sense, is also a tribute to his achievements and successes. I hope that the way it will be arranged by the organizers will make us all happy with this performance.

Of course, it's an honor to watch him again stepping in the ring either it's a professional or an exhibition match. That's what I thought as well that he can have this one last fight as a tribute for being a boxing legend but as you said, he's already aging and he's turning 56 years old this year so we can't expect anymore if he will fight again.

I don't know if you already knew mate but this fight between the Paul brothers is already far form reality because Mike Tyson himself said that he's not stepping in the ring anymore for good.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on February 07, 2022, 08:35:54 AM

Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

I don't think that in the current state Tyson is close to what he could before. When I watch old videos, I understand how much he was ahead of his time (at least he was ahead of technical development) because the cameras of those years did not have time to adequately capture his movements. It's like watching hockey on an old TV (if you know what I mean) when you don't see the puck at all. I think that only those who saw those old Tyson fights live understand how fast and strong he was.

Even watching the old videos of Mike Tyson, I can already tell that he is fast and strong. He has bigger opponents but he was able to take him down, the legend really has the talent in boxing, but sometime in his career, he abuse his body and lose discipline that's why he didn't last and he retired early. But still, against a YouTuber, I think he is still too much for Logan Paul.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on February 07, 2022, 08:35:54 AM

Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

I don't think that in the current state Tyson is close to what he could before. When I watch old videos, I understand how much he was ahead of his time (at least he was ahead of technical development) because the cameras of those years did not have time to adequately capture his movements. It's like watching hockey on an old TV (if you know what I mean) when you don't see the puck at all. I think that only those who saw those old Tyson fights live understand how fast and strong he was.

It will definitely be a pleasure to watch Mika in the ring again. His age is doing its job and it will certainly not be the same as in his prime. I think that this fight, in a sense, is also a tribute to his achievements and successes. I hope that the way it will be arranged by the organizers will make us all happy with this performance.

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

I don't think that in the current state Tyson is close to what he could before. When I watch old videos, I understand how much he was ahead of his time (at least he was ahead of technical development) because the cameras of those years did not have time to adequately capture his movements. It's like watching hockey on an old TV (if you know what I mean) when you don't see the puck at all. I think that only those who saw those old Tyson fights live understand how fast and strong he was.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on February 06, 2022, 07:56:32 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on February 06, 2022, 07:47:40 PM

Quote from: Hamphser on February 05, 2022, 07:59:45 PM

There are still fans who do love to see for this fight to make it happen

There is especially at those who didn't able to watch Mike Tyson during his prime. The only chance for those people to watch the Legendary boxer is through an exhibition match. Be it against Logan Paul or any, Tyson should do another exhibition match. It's a great chance for those people who didn't witness how Mike Tyson is fighting in the ring.

But we can't expect that Tyson will go all in in exhibition matches.
Still, his younger days will be different as compared to exhibition fights.
But for the sake of seeing him inside the boxing ring, maybe, that's the consolation among younger gen.
For them to see him once more before he totally becomes out of sight in the boxing industry.

As you said, a consolation at those new generations that didn't see Mike Tyson during his glory days.

We can already expect that he will not go all-in in an exhibition match. What matters is the revenue and he just needs to show up on the ring. And in most cases, exhibition matches are scripted.

Organizers will surely take care of Tyson's health as being with an injury, there will be no more big exhibition match in the future that can give them a good money in return.

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