[BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson - page 16.

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Quote from: molsewid on February 03, 2022, 02:27:12 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 03, 2022, 01:35:28 PM

The problem is that judging by the latest news, he no longer agrees to this fight Grin

And by the way, what Mike thinks about the outcome of this fight (assuming it will be a fair fight and not a scripted fight) is irrelevant. He can be very wrong since he is one of the parties and does not look at things objectively plus based on his past achievements (which are long gone) he can overestimate himself.

Is this true? I mean if it is then I guess Tyson have already made up his mind and save himself for any possible scripted results of this exhibition bout. What I mean is, I didn't doubt that Tyson is really a great fighter despite his age but I bet it is also a big concern on his part and with that being said even if Logan Paul is considered as not that good enough fighter I am for sure this bout will give a injuries for Tyson. But like most of us here, as a boxing fans we are more concern that this bout will serve a cooking show.

When it comes to exhibition fights then it couldnt really be avoided on not to think for it to be a cooking show on which there would really be perception that the fight would really be scripted and Mike

doesnt really like that not only he's been fighting not a real boxer but also this one really aims on making out money but on the other side of things this is really making out for some entertainment

but it seems he wasnt pleased on what this fight is all about and made up some decisions for himself that he wouldnt really take off the bait.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 03, 2022, 01:35:28 PM

The problem is that judging by the latest news, he no longer agrees to this fight Grin

And by the way, what Mike thinks about the outcome of this fight (assuming it will be a fair fight and not a scripted fight) is irrelevant. He can be very wrong since he is one of the parties and does not look at things objectively plus based on his past achievements (which are long gone) he can overestimate himself.

Is this true? I mean if it is then I guess Tyson have already made up his mind and save himself for any possible scripted results of this exhibition bout. What I mean is, I didn't doubt that Tyson is really a great fighter despite his age but I bet it is also a big concern on his part and with that being said even if Logan Paul is considered as not that good enough fighter I am for sure this bout will give a injuries for Tyson. But like most of us here, as a boxing fans we are more concern that this bout will serve a cooking show.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on February 03, 2022, 08:51:29 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 03, 2022, 08:29:30 AM

As the proverb says: whatever the conversation is about, it is about money Grin

And I don’t consider the version about the danger of health for Tyson real - even if he has some problems, then given the status of the fight - the show, you can agree in advance with your opponent about the absence of dangerous actions.

Let's keep it simple, the fact that Tyson agrees to fight a younger fighter, means he himself believes that he will not get harmed if he loses he can take the punches of his opponent and he believes in himself that he can beat Paul in the fight. However, since it's an exhibition fight, I don't want to overreact, instead, I will just consider that things could be scripted.

The problem is that judging by the latest news, he no longer agrees to this fight Grin

And by the way, what Mike thinks about the outcome of this fight (assuming it will be a fair fight and not a scripted fight) is irrelevant. He can be very wrong since he is one of the parties and does not look at things objectively plus based on his past achievements (which are long gone) he can overestimate himself.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on February 03, 2022, 09:59:55 AM

Quote from: dunfida on February 02, 2022, 04:48:51 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on February 02, 2022, 04:19:03 PM

It seems to me that even if Tyson loses due to a lucky punch, it will only cause tenfold interest in continuing this series (and a corresponding increase in fees). But if we are talking about health (maybe he has some serious risk due to age or for some other reason), then it is clear if Tyson does not want this fight - he has enough money, and life is one.

I never ever believed on my life for Tyson to lose because in a single punch for a person which it isnt a boxer after all and besides it wouldnt really be part of the contract or agreement since they've been just

requiring to dance inside the ring since this is an exhibition fight and not an official one.It is just Mike do really prioritize his reputation and principle and sticking to that
whether he do likes it or not then its up to him whether he choses to fight or not.

Would you believe in such a possibility if this match was between Logan and, for example, Tyson, who is 80 years old? I would believe. It is very difficult to find that line when age becomes critically important and former merits/skills lose all meaning. Now we really just have to wait, maybe Tyson will still agree to participate in this show, I would be glad if this happened.

Mike Tyson is a dangerous opponent (even despite his age).

In this, he is similar to the Russian actor Nikita Dzhigurda. Nikita Dzhigurda is now 60 years old. But he fights in the ring and beats younger opponents.

However, he is often beaten. But that doesn't stop him. He falls into the ring, writhing in pain, but then gets back up and fights. Because he has a strong fighting spirit.

He is determined to fight and win. The same with Mike Tyson. I am confident in the victory of Mike Tyson over Logan.

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Quote from: dunfida on February 02, 2022, 04:48:51 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on February 02, 2022, 04:19:03 PM

It seems to me that even if Tyson loses due to a lucky punch, it will only cause tenfold interest in continuing this series (and a corresponding increase in fees). But if we are talking about health (maybe he has some serious risk due to age or for some other reason), then it is clear if Tyson does not want this fight - he has enough money, and life is one.

I never ever believed on my life for Tyson to lose because in a single punch for a person which it isnt a boxer after all and besides it wouldnt really be part of the contract or agreement since they've been just

requiring to dance inside the ring since this is an exhibition fight and not an official one.It is just Mike do really prioritize his reputation and principle and sticking to that
whether he do likes it or not then its up to him whether he choses to fight or not.

Would you believe in such a possibility if this match was between Logan and, for example, Tyson, who is 80 years old? I would believe. It is very difficult to find that line when age becomes critically important and former merits/skills lose all meaning. Now we really just have to wait, maybe Tyson will still agree to participate in this show, I would be glad if this happened.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 03, 2022, 09:01:18 AM

I've remembered Logan Paul will fight with KSI for the third times, but it seems the fight got cancelled right?

I'm very optimism Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson fight will be happen in Q1 or Q2 2022 because both of them doesn't fight with anyone and should ready to fight. It will be sad if the fight isn't going to happen, as we can see in this thread... it's already 53 pages for this discussion. Many people wanting this fight, it's just a time matter I guess.

Not just you mate, but there's a lot of us that is really looking forward that this fight will happen this year. Mike Tyson started this hype and was followed by Logan Paul creating some issues and trash talking each other that's why many fans are rooting to see this to happen soon, but suddenly Mike don't want it anymore. Nevertheless, I won't stop hoping about this fight.

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I've remembered Logan Paul will fight with KSI for the third times, but it seems the fight got cancelled right?

I'm very optimism Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson fight will be happen in Q1 or Q2 2022 because both of them doesn't fight with anyone and should ready to fight. It will be sad if the fight isn't going to happen, as we can see in this thread... it's already 53 pages for this discussion. Many people wanting this fight, it's just a time matter I guess.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on February 03, 2022, 08:51:29 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 03, 2022, 08:29:30 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on February 02, 2022, 11:18:14 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 02, 2022, 10:08:01 AM

By the way, the question about money is quite interesting. Of course Mike Tyson doesn't need money like regular people, but he's not rich enough either (at least based on his sports earnings). I remember how he parted with Don King with scandal and said that all his money had slipped through his fingers, and such dealers as Don King made millions on him. Now in one fight he can earn as much as he used to earn in several championship fights. Why refuse it? I do not understand.

I don't understand either why Mike refused to fight Logan Paul, I also don't believe that Mike isn't after the money he can make if the fight were to happen because he's not that financially wealthy. I really think there's some hidden issues (maybe health) that Mike doesn't want the people to know about him.

An associate of Tyson’s said the former boxer and Paul, 25, were in “advanced talks” to headline a nearly $50 million pay-per-view fight.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/01/17/no-mike-tyson-is-not-fighting-jake-paul-representative-says/?sh=7f3e8c1d2cf7

This article was published 2 weeks ago by Forbes, however they meant JAKE PAUL here but it's clear that they've been talking about money. So, now tell me if Mike Tyson was indeed not going after the money Huh

As the proverb says: whatever the conversation is about, it is about money Grin

And I don’t consider the version about the danger of health for Tyson real - even if he has some problems, then given the status of the fight - the show, you can agree in advance with your opponent about the absence of dangerous actions.

Let's keep it simple, the fact that Tyson agrees to fight a younger fighter, means he himself believes that he will not get harmed if he loses he can take the punches of his opponent and he believes in himself that he can beat Paul in the fight. However, since it's an exhibition fight, I don't want to overreact, instead, I will just consider that things could be scripted.

You make a great point about the exhibition part of it. I always worry with these stupid douchebag brothers fighting that something is a bit fishy with each match (not saying it’s always the case just something that makes me wonder). Hopefully it’s fully real and Tyson comes out and kicks his fucking ass !

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 03, 2022, 08:29:30 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on February 02, 2022, 11:18:14 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 02, 2022, 10:08:01 AM

By the way, the question about money is quite interesting. Of course Mike Tyson doesn't need money like regular people, but he's not rich enough either (at least based on his sports earnings). I remember how he parted with Don King with scandal and said that all his money had slipped through his fingers, and such dealers as Don King made millions on him. Now in one fight he can earn as much as he used to earn in several championship fights. Why refuse it? I do not understand.

I don't understand either why Mike refused to fight Logan Paul, I also don't believe that Mike isn't after the money he can make if the fight were to happen because he's not that financially wealthy. I really think there's some hidden issues (maybe health) that Mike doesn't want the people to know about him.

An associate of Tyson’s said the former boxer and Paul, 25, were in “advanced talks” to headline a nearly $50 million pay-per-view fight.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/01/17/no-mike-tyson-is-not-fighting-jake-paul-representative-says/?sh=7f3e8c1d2cf7

This article was published 2 weeks ago by Forbes, however they meant JAKE PAUL here but it's clear that they've been talking about money. So, now tell me if Mike Tyson was indeed not going after the money Huh

As the proverb says: whatever the conversation is about, it is about money Grin

And I don’t consider the version about the danger of health for Tyson real - even if he has some problems, then given the status of the fight - the show, you can agree in advance with your opponent about the absence of dangerous actions.

Let's keep it simple, the fact that Tyson agrees to fight a younger fighter, means he himself believes that he will not get harmed if he loses he can take the punches of his opponent and he believes in himself that he can beat Paul in the fight. However, since it's an exhibition fight, I don't want to overreact, instead, I will just consider that things could be scripted.

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Quote from: Distinctin on February 02, 2022, 11:18:14 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 02, 2022, 10:08:01 AM

By the way, the question about money is quite interesting. Of course Mike Tyson doesn't need money like regular people, but he's not rich enough either (at least based on his sports earnings). I remember how he parted with Don King with scandal and said that all his money had slipped through his fingers, and such dealers as Don King made millions on him. Now in one fight he can earn as much as he used to earn in several championship fights. Why refuse it? I do not understand.

I don't understand either why Mike refused to fight Logan Paul, I also don't believe that Mike isn't after the money he can make if the fight were to happen because he's not that financially wealthy. I really think there's some hidden issues (maybe health) that Mike doesn't want the people to know about him.

An associate of Tyson’s said the former boxer and Paul, 25, were in “advanced talks” to headline a nearly $50 million pay-per-view fight.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/01/17/no-mike-tyson-is-not-fighting-jake-paul-representative-says/?sh=7f3e8c1d2cf7

This article was published 2 weeks ago by Forbes, however they meant JAKE PAUL here but it's clear that they've been talking about money. So, now tell me if Mike Tyson was indeed not going after the money Huh

As the proverb says: whatever the conversation is about, it is about money Grin

And I don’t consider the version about the danger of health for Tyson real - even if he has some problems, then given the status of the fight - the show, you can agree in advance with your opponent about the absence of dangerous actions.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on February 02, 2022, 04:19:03 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 02, 2022, 01:33:33 PM

I want to look at it as long-term effect,maybe Tyson or his camp see the possibilities of danger in case a lucky solid punch accidentally hits him, on his age now and the power of Paul even he's not a well-known pro but we don't know how an accident may take place, no offense but that's also possible to take place.

Maybe Tyson's weight between cash and his health, but whatever reason he and his camp can only clear this up.. Wink

It seems to me that even if Tyson loses due to a lucky punch, it will only cause tenfold interest in continuing this series (and a corresponding increase in fees). But if we are talking about health (maybe he has some serious risk due to age or for some other reason), then it is clear if Tyson does not want this fight - he has enough money, and life is one.

I never ever believed on my life for Tyson to lose because in a single punch for a person which it isnt a boxer after all and besides it wouldnt really be part of the contract or agreement since they've been just

requiring to dance inside the ring since this is an exhibition fight and not an official one.It is just Mike do really prioritize his reputation and principle and sticking to that
whether he do likes it or not then its up to him whether he choses to fight or not.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 02, 2022, 01:33:33 PM

I want to look at it as long-term effect,maybe Tyson or his camp see the possibilities of danger in case a lucky solid punch accidentally hits him, on his age now and the power of Paul even he's not a well-known pro but we don't know how an accident may take place, no offense but that's also possible to take place.

Maybe Tyson's weight between cash and his health, but whatever reason he and his camp can only clear this up.. Wink

It seems to me that even if Tyson loses due to a lucky punch, it will only cause tenfold interest in continuing this series (and a corresponding increase in fees). But if we are talking about health (maybe he has some serious risk due to age or for some other reason), then it is clear if Tyson does not want this fight - he has enough money, and life is one.

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Quote from: STT on February 01, 2022, 07:04:29 PM

Tyson probably hasn't got so much money he doesn't need to collect the prize fee for this but there is the question of good management and as ex world champion respected probably forever in his achievements, does it really do him good overall to take this fight. He has alternate prospects more attractive then a play fight. There is also the lucky punch aspect which I dont think happens but there's the chance he ends up looking worse off from a wild lucky punch plus training for a fight is a massive deal to put your body through so I don't blame him for skipping if not fully motivated.

I want to look at it as long-term effect,maybe Tyson or his camp see the possibilities of danger in case a lucky solid punch accidentally hits him, on his age now and the power of Paul even he's not a well-known pro but we don't know how an accident may take place, no offense but that's also possible to take place.

Maybe Tyson's weight between cash and his health, but whatever reason he and his camp can only clear this up.. Wink

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Quote from: shawon01 on February 02, 2022, 08:36:42 AM

I have been watching BOXING game since my childhood. Is this game really true or false. I still don't understand it. I just went to see the games. I like to watch the games but I have not been able to find out the meaning of the game. To this day I do not know whether it is true or false.

Boxing is real, it's a sport and there's a huge that's on stake if the match from popular fighters you're going to see. You don't have to understand it and if you're confused right now, watch boxing and professional videos on YouTube or any video source that you know.
You've said that you've been watching it since when you're a kid and that's the same for me. There's no need to confuse about being true or false, just move and past forward any video of boxing at the end of the match and see how the boxers faces look like and think of it if it's false.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 02, 2022, 10:08:01 AM

Quote from: STT on February 01, 2022, 07:04:29 PM

Tyson probably hasn't got so much money he doesn't need to collect the prize fee for this but there is the question of good management and as ex world champion respected probably forever in his achievements, does it really do him good overall to take this fight. He has alternate prospects more attractive then a play fight. There is also the lucky punch aspect which I dont think happens but there's the chance he ends up looking worse off from a wild lucky punch plus training for a fight is a massive deal to put your body through so I don't blame him for skipping if not fully motivated.

By the way, the question about money is quite interesting. Of course Mike Tyson doesn't need money like regular people, but he's not rich enough either (at least based on his sports earnings). I remember how he parted with Don King with scandal and said that all his money had slipped through his fingers, and such dealers as Don King made millions on him. Now in one fight he can earn as much as he used to earn in several championship fights. Why refuse it? I do not understand.

This fight is a real opportunity to earn money to provide for the rest of his life without denying himself anything. So I think that Mike Tyson won't miss this opportunity to meet Logan Paul in the ring, no matter what it costs him. I still think he's gonna kick that blogger's ass.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 02, 2022, 10:08:01 AM

Quote from: STT on February 01, 2022, 07:04:29 PM

Tyson probably hasn't got so much money he doesn't need to collect the prize fee for this but there is the question of good management and as ex world champion respected probably forever in his achievements, does it really do him good overall to take this fight. He has alternate prospects more attractive then a play fight. There is also the lucky punch aspect which I dont think happens but there's the chance he ends up looking worse off from a wild lucky punch plus training for a fight is a massive deal to put your body through so I don't blame him for skipping if not fully motivated.

By the way, the question about money is quite interesting. Of course Mike Tyson doesn't need money like regular people, but he's not rich enough either (at least based on his sports earnings). I remember how he parted with Don King with scandal and said that all his money had slipped through his fingers, and such dealers as Don King made millions on him. Now in one fight he can earn as much as he used to earn in several championship fights. Why refuse it? I do not understand.

I don't understand either why Mike refused to fight Logan Paul, I also don't believe that Mike isn't after the money he can make if the fight were to happen because he's not that financially wealthy. I really think there's some hidden issues (maybe health) that Mike doesn't want the people to know about him.

An associate of Tyson’s said the former boxer and Paul, 25, were in “advanced talks” to headline a nearly $50 million pay-per-view fight.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/01/17/no-mike-tyson-is-not-fighting-jake-paul-representative-says/?sh=7f3e8c1d2cf7

This article was published 2 weeks ago by Forbes, however they meant JAKE PAUL here but it's clear that they've been talking about money. So, now tell me if Mike Tyson was indeed not going after the money Huh

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Quote from: STT on February 01, 2022, 07:04:29 PM

Tyson probably hasn't got so much money he doesn't need to collect the prize fee for this but there is the question of good management and as ex world champion respected probably forever in his achievements, does it really do him good overall to take this fight. He has alternate prospects more attractive then a play fight. There is also the lucky punch aspect which I dont think happens but there's the chance he ends up looking worse off from a wild lucky punch plus training for a fight is a massive deal to put your body through so I don't blame him for skipping if not fully motivated.

By the way, the question about money is quite interesting. Of course Mike Tyson doesn't need money like regular people, but he's not rich enough either (at least based on his sports earnings). I remember how he parted with Don King with scandal and said that all his money had slipped through his fingers, and such dealers as Don King made millions on him. Now in one fight he can earn as much as he used to earn in several championship fights. Why refuse it? I do not understand.

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I have been watching BOXING game since my childhood. Is this game really true or false. I still don't understand it. I just went to see the games. I like to watch the games but I have not been able to find out the meaning of the game. To this day I do not know whether it is true or false.

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Tyson probably hasn't got so much money he doesn't need to collect the prize fee for this but there is the question of good management and as ex world champion respected probably forever in his achievements, does it really do him good overall to take this fight. He has alternate prospects more attractive then a play fight. There is also the lucky punch aspect which I dont think happens but there's the chance he ends up looking worse off from a wild lucky punch plus training for a fight is a massive deal to put your body through so I don't blame him for skipping if not fully motivated.

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Quote from: Hamphser on February 01, 2022, 03:20:34 PM

Just read up the word.
“I don’t think I’d ever just do stuff like that anymore. I wanted to do it the first time just for fun, just to have fun. Then some people took it to another level and made it financial and the fun went out of it.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_v4uuqoVoY

Mike Tyson see this not to be fun anymore but rather focusing on making money thats why he wouldnt likely to fight Logan on this situation.

To be honest, I don’t really understand why financial motives are bad in this fight. The huge money that revolves around this event means that people are willing to pay for this show and they are interested in it. What's bad about it? This is respect for Tyson. If he doesn't need the money, then he can spend it on charity and have fun as he originally planned. I don't really understand why it is necessary to refuse this fight due to the fact that this is a financial event (of course, financial, what else can it be?).

I agree and for sure he had been longing for making money when he is just starting his career into those good old days and also as if you do have any other choice?Whether you do like it or not you could still earn money since there are people who would really be longing to watch the fight.Is this some sort of excuse or he doesnt really just like to fight a young boxer wanna be?

Money, Tyson have got more than his need. Even after the same he wants more money. He has already revealed that the winning amount directly gets moved to the charity. Money involvement have made the fight to be more demanding, if this is a friendly fight then this fight could've never been spoken.

Its impossible that it cant really be spoken even with the promoters or organizers would definitely be leaking out for this fight even though it would turn out to be a friendly match but still the crowd would really
be still eager to see the fight no matter what.Knowing that Mike Tyson is a Legend in sports of boxing specially to those oldies who had followed his career would definitely be dying to watch out for Mike to
go back in the ring but it seems he doesnt really need money anymore but not for Logan. haha

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