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November 05, 2021, 05:29:14 PM
You guys believe too much in Mike. All your predictions are based on his past achievements. His last real fight was 16 years ago and only one exhibition fight last year. I dont think that Mike trains daily all these 16 years. While Logan Paul as much younger, was into sports at least 1-4 years. I think he spends way more time in gym than Mike in last years. I am not trying to say that he will win, but he wont look pathetic or like a total newbie in the ring. Mike Tysons chances to win are not 99%.

That's a crap analysis you have there. The match is an exhibition match. Do you really think their performance will be at its best? That exhibition match will have a scripted result. Please learn from the past exhibition match of Logan Paul before applying a boxing analysis here.

But if I will counter your statement with a technical analysis of boxing, no way I will consider that age as a disadvantage for Mike. If only they will fight in a professional match, I can challenge you to a bet that Tyson will still dominate the match.
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November 05, 2021, 05:27:14 PM
I agree that this is a staged fight and the result will not be determined in the ring, but rather will be written by producers outside of it. But I would be interested to know at what age Tyson his chances would be obviously lower than Paul? 60 years? 65? With the condition that Paul is at the present age and does not age.
Tyson has not fought Paul yet, it's hard to just guess because Logan Paul is also well conditioned although he has not won a fight yet. We should not be too hype with the popularity of Tyson, remember, he is not young anymore and his power in boxing is probably gone.

Yes, if we talk about professional boxing, then the power is really gone, but to knock Paul out you don't need a monstrous blow (as is the case with any ordinary person) you only need technique and the right place to apply force. The only question is whether Mike will be quick enough to do it, and Paul is not careful enough to miss such a trick. If we take purely physical capabilities, then I would consider Paul to be the favorite. The problem is that after a couple of missed hits, physical capabilities become significantly weaker  Cheesy

I'm not sure I'd say the power is gone.  I wouldn't line up to take a punch from Mike Tyson.  Have you seen his recent workout videos?  I am 100% certain Tyson hits harder now than I have ever been able to in my entire life and I've put some people on the mat in my time...  It won't take much for Tyson to knock him out in my opinion.  The question is if he'll be able to do it before he gets fatigued, and if the rules even allow for him to deliver a knockout blow.  It's quite possible he won't be allowed to punch with all his strength.  That being said, would you trust Mike Tyson and step in the ring with him because he says he won't knock you out?  I sure as hell wouldn't.  As soon as Logan lands a nice shot Tyson will be seeing red.  I think this will likely be the last fight of Logan's career.
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November 05, 2021, 05:14:52 PM
You guys believe too much in Mike. All your predictions are based on his past achievements. His last real fight was 16 years ago and only one exhibition fight last year. I dont think that Mike trains daily all these 16 years. While Logan Paul as much younger, was into sports at least 1-4 years. I think he spends way more time in gym than Mike in last years. I am not trying to say that he will win, but he wont look pathetic or like a total newbie in the ring. Mike Tysons chances to win are not 99%.

This is exactly what I was thinking about now.
All bookmakers and almost the entire boxing community bet very heavily on Mike.
For me, this is not an obvious advantage at all. On the contrary, I think Logan's desire to defeat the legend may be what will prevail in this fight.
I was even wondering how much to bet on Logan .. Smiley

We all know how great the fighter he is but Tyson prime is over and he's old so provably Logan can defeat him knowing that he's young also well trained, Maybe for this match I will spend my bet to Paul since I will try to see if the youth could bet the legend. But I'm also wondering if how could Logan defeat the legend knowing that experience really matters and for sure he will give a hard fight to the young youtuber.
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November 05, 2021, 05:11:54 PM
I agree that this is a staged fight and the result will not be determined in the ring, but rather will be written by producers outside of it. But I would be interested to know at what age Tyson his chances would be obviously lower than Paul? 60 years? 65? With the condition that Paul is at the present age and does not age.
Tyson has not fought Paul yet, it's hard to just guess because Logan Paul is also well conditioned although he has not won a fight yet. We should not be too hype with the popularity of Tyson, remember, he is not young anymore and his power in boxing is probably gone.

Yes, if we talk about professional boxing, then the power is really gone, but to knock Paul out you don't need a monstrous blow (as is the case with any ordinary person) you only need technique and the right place to apply force. The only question is whether Mike will be quick enough to do it, and Paul is not careful enough to miss such a trick. If we take purely physical capabilities, then I would consider Paul to be the favorite. The problem is that after a couple of missed hits, physical capabilities become significantly weaker  Cheesy
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November 05, 2021, 04:48:00 PM
You guys believe too much in Mike. All your predictions are based on his past achievements. His last real fight was 16 years ago and only one exhibition fight last year. I dont think that Mike trains daily all these 16 years. While Logan Paul as much younger, was into sports at least 1-4 years. I think he spends way more time in gym than Mike in last years. I am not trying to say that he will win, but he wont look pathetic or like a total newbie in the ring. Mike Tysons chances to win are not 99%.

This is exactly what I was thinking about now.
All bookmakers and almost the entire boxing community bet very heavily on Mike.
For me, this is not an obvious advantage at all. On the contrary, I think Logan's desire to defeat the legend may be what will prevail in this fight.
I was even wondering how much to bet on Logan .. Smiley
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November 05, 2021, 04:42:30 PM
You guys believe too much in Mike. All your predictions are based on his past achievements. His last real fight was 16 years ago and only one exhibition fight last year. I dont think that Mike trains daily all these 16 years. While Logan Paul as much younger, was into sports at least 1-4 years. I think he spends way more time in gym than Mike in last years. I am not trying to say that he will win, but he wont look pathetic or like a total newbie in the ring. Mike Tysons chances to win are not 99%.

Can't agree: For MIke it will be no hard to restore at least some of his previous vigor and skills. Especially, because he already had some fights. And because his fight with Logan will be also promotional (i said it before here) to get more hype and money. So i think he will win. 

And yeah, you can look at him now - https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/LtQtXYaj-suLI0jKUBLE-Fx2O9s=/1400x1400/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22127884/1288364271.jpg
I think, yeah, he spent all this 16 years at the gym  Grin
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November 05, 2021, 04:25:09 PM
You guys believe too much in Mike. All your predictions are based on his past achievements. His last real fight was 16 years ago and only one exhibition fight last year. I dont think that Mike trains daily all these 16 years. While Logan Paul as much younger, was into sports at least 1-4 years. I think he spends way more time in gym than Mike in last years. I am not trying to say that he will win, but he wont look pathetic or like a total newbie in the ring. Mike Tysons chances to win are not 99%.
It is a fact that everyone is weighing on the laurels of Mike Tyson of the past and he was not fighting for over a decade and i doubt he was even training for over a decade and he was on drugs for a long time and he is still on weed and he is not going to change that. So i doubt the conditioning of Mike Tyson even though my mind says that there is no way Logan Paul could stand a chance in front of him.
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November 05, 2021, 04:04:33 PM
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So what do you think guys, do these odds would attract bettors?
It is not a surprise that Mike Tyson is a heavy favorite and there is no point in betting for the favorite but i would like to see any bookies giving a draw line and what would be the odds for that. I might place a bet on a draw for fun as most of the exhibition fights ends up in a draw. You never know what would happen, logically Mike Tyson should smoke Logan Paul but Tyson is 55 years and what happens if he pulls a muscle during the bout looking for the knockout  Cheesy.

I don’t even know what gambling on this fight would look like. Are they going to allow knockouts even? Will a winner be announced if there is a knockout? Will a winner even be announced under any circumstance? I’m not sure if they even have the rules straight yet, but if there are stipulations to the fight, I can only assume that they’ll all be there to hurt Tyson’s chances.
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November 05, 2021, 03:56:23 PM
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So what do you think guys, do these odds would attract bettors?
It is not a surprise that Mike Tyson is a heavy favorite and there is no point in betting for the favorite but i would like to see any bookies giving a draw line and what would be the odds for that. I might place a bet on a draw for fun as most of the exhibition fights ends up in a draw. You never know what would happen, logically Mike Tyson should smoke Logan Paul but Tyson is 55 years and what happens if he pulls a muscle during the bout looking for the knockout  Cheesy.

If you do consider out on how many followers does Logan have.

23.2 million (Logan Paul) 5.1 million (TheOfficialLoganPaul) 3.34 million (Impaulsive)
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Paul

Then you could say that there's a possibility of switch up on whose gonna  be favorite but we know that fans arent really that blind
on trying to compare a world champion into a known  youtuber.  Cheesy
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November 05, 2021, 03:56:12 PM
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So what do you think guys, do these odds would attract bettors?
It is not a surprise that Mike Tyson is a heavy favorite and there is no point in betting for the favorite but i would like to see any bookies giving a draw line and what would be the odds for that. I might place a bet on a draw for fun as most of the exhibition fights ends up in a draw. You never know what would happen, logically Mike Tyson should smoke Logan Paul but Tyson is 55 years and what happens if he pulls a muscle during the bout looking for the knockout  Cheesy.

I guess I have to agree with the bookie this time, though Tyson is "old" he is still fit and we know with this experience he could win a fight. But of course, we have to see it in our very own eyes if he can still win fights especially against a young and active boxer. The idea of putting a bet on a draw is good as it could possibly happen especially when they follow a script not to hurt each other.
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November 05, 2021, 03:37:16 PM
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So what do you think guys, do these odds would attract bettors?
It is not a surprise that Mike Tyson is a heavy favorite and there is no point in betting for the favorite but i would like to see any bookies giving a draw line and what would be the odds for that. I might place a bet on a draw for fun as most of the exhibition fights ends up in a draw. You never know what would happen, logically Mike Tyson should smoke Logan Paul but Tyson is 55 years and what happens if he pulls a muscle during the bout looking for the knockout  Cheesy.
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November 05, 2021, 02:26:34 PM
Nah, I'm sure Logan will lose in this fight and I don't know if you saw how Logan moves in the ring or during his practice session. I know for sure Tyson will still beat him and if ever you have seen the recent fight of Logan against Mayweather you will probably have an idea already how the match would end.

This match is just for a views since we all know Logan is a vlogger and many more like this will be showing soon like having an exhibition fight with Conor McGregor. You name it who's famous in sports like MMA and boxing they will eventually gonna show.

Yes. It's not going to be a fight, it's going to be a staged show, so we shouldn't expect anything spectacular. When I found out that Mike Tyson promised beforehand not to knock out Logan Paul I lost interest in this match. I'd like to see a real Mike Tyson fight, and I hope we get to see one someday.
Ofcourse this fight doesn't count and we can't get to see a real fight because this is just an exhibition money match. And yes, Mike did promised not to knock out Logan "IF" he will show Mike some respect that he deserve. If by chance Logan will start to trashtalk Mike, then for sure we can see some real old school, schooling young fighter who didn't won a single fight (yet he Logan called himself a professional fighter).
Hahaha Cheesy Professional but yet always wants to have an exhibition fight, money making fight to hypes his popularity. We are on the stage where fight like this also attracting the fans, Logan can make a video throwing trash talk to Mike, it can gained more views and start the talk regarding to this upcoming fight, more news and advertisement means more possible tickets to be sold.

What else do we expect?  Roll Eyes Oh I see, that kind of possibilities that Mike will knock him down, we never know what will come up inside this maniac's mind.

He can do that if Paul will be careless. Mike can take him with some good combo to send him to sleep. Tongue
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November 05, 2021, 01:13:08 PM
With all due respect to Myke Tyson and his sporting achievements, in my opinion he should not take this fight.
Unfortunately for me it will be more like a freak fight than a real fight.
A legend like Tyson shouldn't do things like that, but it's probably about money as usual.
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November 05, 2021, 12:53:28 PM
Money, money everywhere.

How do you think, can money buy experience? Or can money beat experience? I mean Logan has a lot of money, he could have the best training camp that anyone could imagine. He can get the best medicine in the world (exhibition fighters does not pass any testing). He can be like Ivan Drako from Rocky, beating old Apollo Creed Cheesy
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November 05, 2021, 12:17:51 PM

Exactly, it's the experience of Mike that gives him the edge in this fight, but if he could not end the fight early, that would be his disadvantage because Logan has better stamina since he is younger and he also have fought before so the experience is there already. This exhibition fight is very unpredictable, some would side on the young Logan, while the others believe that Mike is going to knock Logan down.



Paul's camp sees that as advantage and by keeping avoiding Mike's attack will give him a good chance to win.

Just like what you said, if Mike got that chance to corner Paul and delivered solid punches,
the chance of him to win is very likely to happen.

We don't know what would be the outcome and how both fighters will deliver inside the ring,
they both have an equal chance to win if strategy went well.

It's up to every fans to which side they will put their money,..
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November 05, 2021, 10:09:41 AM
This is interesting, though odds for this fight are not yet out but there's an article reporting that Mike Tyson is the favorite in this fight.

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Mike Tyson vs Logan Paul Betting Odds?
Online sportsbook MyBookie has Tyson down as the favourite in the anticipated fight at -150. Paul is currently sitting as the underdog at +130 in the boxing contest that is expected to be announced in the coming months.

source : https://www.givemesport.com/1775162-mike-tyson-vs-logan-paul-betting-odds-who-is-the-favourite

So what do you think guys, do these odds would attract bettors?
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November 05, 2021, 09:21:49 AM
You guys believe too much in Mike. All your predictions are based on his past achievements. His last real fight was 16 years ago and only one exhibition fight last year. I dont think that Mike trains daily all these 16 years. While Logan Paul as much younger, was into sports at least 1-4 years. I think he spends way more time in gym than Mike in last years. I am not trying to say that he will win, but he wont look pathetic or like a total newbie in the ring. Mike Tysons chances to win are not 99%.

You have a point there. Although Mike is more skilled and experienced than Logan but he is getting older too.
We never know how the young blood could turn against him. Although I think Mike will win this fight for sure I still think Logan will give a good fight against him.
Boxing is more of a mind game and Mike has all that experienced mind it needs to win a match against the not so professional Logan.

Exactly, it's the experience of Mike that gives him the edge in this fight, but if he could not end the fight early, that would be his disadvantage because Logan has better stamina since he is younger and he also have fought before so the experience is there already. This exhibition fight is very unpredictable, some would side on the young Logan, while the others believe that Mike is going to knock Logan down.
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November 05, 2021, 07:46:09 AM
You guys believe too much in Mike. All your predictions are based on his past achievements. His last real fight was 16 years ago and only one exhibition fight last year. I dont think that Mike trains daily all these 16 years. While Logan Paul as much younger, was into sports at least 1-4 years. I think he spends way more time in gym than Mike in last years. I am not trying to say that he will win, but he wont look pathetic or like a total newbie in the ring. Mike Tysons chances to win are not 99%.

You have a point there. Although Mike is more skilled and experienced than Logan but he is getting older too.
We never know how the young blood could turn against him. Although I think Mike will win this fight for sure I still think Logan will give a good fight against him.
Boxing is more of a mind game and Mike has all that experienced mind it needs to win a match against the not so professional Logan.
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November 05, 2021, 06:59:39 AM
You guys believe too much in Mike. All your predictions are based on his past achievements. His last real fight was 16 years ago and only one exhibition fight last year. I dont think that Mike trains daily all these 16 years. While Logan Paul as much younger, was into sports at least 1-4 years. I think he spends way more time in gym than Mike in last years. I am not trying to say that he will win, but he wont look pathetic or like a total newbie in the ring. Mike Tysons chances to win are not 99%.
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November 05, 2021, 06:43:01 AM
You can never tell that because Mike here is the old boxer and we don't know if his stamina is strong enough to last until the last round of the fight. Logan Paul may have no won a single fight yet, but he is well conditioned and he might not be easily taken down by an old Mike Tyson.

You are 1 out of 100 to say that lol. Do you really believe that in this exhibition match, Paul will stand a chance? Didn't you know that if it's on a real boxing match, Tyson will just easily pulverize Paul even how the condition that is? If you saw Tyson's preparation during his fight on his 1st exhibition match, you won't be able to say that.

The fight will be an exhibition match so expect a staged result.

I agree that this is a staged fight and the result will not be determined in the ring, but rather will be written by producers outside of it. But I would be interested to know at what age Tyson his chances would be obviously lower than Paul? 60 years? 65? With the condition that Paul is at the present age and does not age.

Tyson has not fought Paul yet, it's hard to just guess because Logan Paul is also well conditioned although he has not won a fight yet. We should not be too hype with the popularity of Tyson, remember, he is not young anymore and his power in boxing is probably gone.
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