[BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson - page 51.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 10, 2021, 09:40:30 AM

Those 6 guys who voted for Logan, what was your opinion based on? Cheesy

On a lucky punch? Or you hope that Mike will run out of stamina faster than Logan?

I think this fight will end with a draw. The idea of this fight is to entertain, to show what boxing is, to show a living legend on a ring, to show a popular blogger. But not to get someone knockout cold.

However, having a loss from Mike Tyson in a boxing record also is valuable

You can tell grandsons that you have fought against a legendary Tyson, but lost in a close fight Cheesy

Maybe it will be a lucky punch, (I'm not one of those who voted though).

And I agree that this fight will end up likely in a draw, this is just an exhibition fight, to draw some fun and entertainment for the boxing fans. Will not look good if Tyson will knock out Logan cold, or if Paul was able to slip in those lucky punch. So most likely the organizers are going to look at this kind of scenario an will try to prevent it to happen by talking to both boxers.

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They will do that up until their respective fans are still willing to pay for the tickets.
We all know that they may have even a prior arrangement before the fight.
So for bettors, I don't think it is worth to bet especially if it is your last money.
If you want to bet, just use your extra extra funds so no hard feelings if the judges will resort to draw decision.

Since this is an exhibition fight draw is likely to happen, In Mike Tyson's last fight against Roy Jones Jr. which is an exhibition match, Mike Tyson is clearly the winner of the fight with his aggressiveness but the judges made it a draw because it's a friendly match and it was stated that it is just to show the capability of both boxers at their age.
The same thing on the Mayweather - Jake Paul, Mayweather is very careful in not hurting his opponent, because there's no title on the line and the fight is not going o have effect on his fight record

This is what I'm afraid of too, that they won't both show their full potential.
However, I think that this time the fight will have to be won by one of them. I think so because if there was a draw again, people would not want to watch the next event anymore because the result would be known from the beginning. If they want to earn money on next events, they have to give people some emotion.

The bad thing about exhibition fights is that, boxers take care of themselves, when they are fights of this style they take into account even the age of each boxer, the one who most catches my attention is Tyson, because I remember that he was small and I saw the fight where he bites his opponent's ear, that fight I saw live and direct on tv, it was something very confusing for me, seeing him bite his ear and see all the blood, then I saw that Tyson also dedicated himself to making some movies and having participation, that is why for me Tyson represents a lot, the case of Mywheater is already something else, I think it has no cavity, since he asked the Filipino legend that he did not want revenge he disappointed me.

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When Tyson is still on his prime then he had some stamina issues but i could say that it still better and much longer than Logan had even
hes already retired or old.You couldnt really able to compare into those person who does have better build and experience than to those who had none.Dont know on what other peoples been eyeing into when it comes to probability of Logan to win on any angle which i
do see for it to be 0%.

By saying 0% of winning probability you are saying that Logan has no chance of winning against Tyson which isn't the case either.
Although Tyson has greater probability of winning the fight I wouldn't say Logan has 0% probability of winning.
Logan has the young blood which is needed to win a fight which Tyson doesn't have.
If Logan holds his stance in the ring then Tyson's decrease in stamina might cause him a disadvantage.
So the greater time Logan holds himself up the greater his chances of winning the fight.
But no kidding, Tyson still has greater chances to win. Just that Logan has very minor chances of winning instead of no chances at all.

Definitely 0% i would say and if you do look Logan on that previous fight against Mayweather then you could already see that stamina is also a big problem for Logan which
i wont believe that it could go par with the current old Tyson thats why im really that confident that he could snatch up this fight on easy win if he wanted to.
Well, as an exhibition fight then this is already part of the script that they would need to dance inside the ring to entertain things up.

Lol, that's really true. Since all of this is just for money sake I think they can script out the total fight.
May be Tyson would also get a few punches on his face from Logan if that's on the script. What do you think ?
Will they go to such extent that they might script the whole fight or will Tyson keep his dignity and not lose it for money.

He wont for sure for that thing to happen because that will create lots of noise and criticism if ever Mike would be beaten up.I do believe that there would be some letting of those punches on his face but for sure he wont really be making it to be that something that could potentially taken him down
and i wont really say that he would just let things to be done yet as a boxer there would be always that dignity and pride that he cant really be
just be beaten down by someone who are just famous in youtube.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 10, 2021, 09:40:30 AM

Those 6 guys who voted for Logan, what was your opinion based on? Cheesy

On a lucky punch? Or you hope that Mike will run out of stamina faster than Logan?

I think this fight will end with a draw. The idea of this fight is to entertain, to show what boxing is, to show a living legend on a ring, to show a popular blogger. But not to get someone knockout cold.

However, having a loss from Mike Tyson in a boxing record also is valuable

You can tell grandsons that you have fought against a legendary Tyson, but lost in a close fight Cheesy

Maybe those 6 guys who voted Logan Paul are just tripping because we all know that chances are it'll going to be a split-decision in favor to the living legend Mike Tyson. For sure, there's no single lucky punch coming from Logan to knock Tyson out and we know that's not the idea of this match, it is pure entertainment only.

Nope as I said, this won't going to end via draw. Instead, this will be a tribute to the legend Mike Tyson so he's definitely going to win this match, I reckon.

Yes, indeed Logan Paul is very priveleged and honored to be able to fight Mike Tyson even in an exhibition match and that is a story to tell and to share proudly to his kids and grandkids. Sadly, this match will be another loss to Paul, adding to his record.

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Those 6 guys who voted for Logan, what was your opinion based on? Cheesy

On a lucky punch? Or you hope that Mike will run out of stamina faster than Logan?

I think this fight will end with a draw. The idea of this fight is to entertain, to show what boxing is, to show a living legend on a ring, to show a popular blogger. But not to get someone knockout cold.

However, having a loss from Mike Tyson in a boxing record also is valuable

You can tell grandsons that you have fought against a legendary Tyson, but lost in a close fight Cheesy

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Quote from: Quidat on November 06, 2021, 05:55:27 PM

When Tyson is still on his prime then he had some stamina issues but i could say that it still better and much longer than Logan had even
hes already retired or old.You couldnt really able to compare into those person who does have better build and experience than to those who had none.Dont know on what other peoples been eyeing into when it comes to probability of Logan to win on any angle which i
do see for it to be 0%.

By saying 0% of winning probability you are saying that Logan has no chance of winning against Tyson which isn't the case either.
Although Tyson has greater probability of winning the fight I wouldn't say Logan has 0% probability of winning.
Logan has the young blood which is needed to win a fight which Tyson doesn't have.
If Logan holds his stance in the ring then Tyson's decrease in stamina might cause him a disadvantage.
So the greater time Logan holds himself up the greater his chances of winning the fight.
But no kidding, Tyson still has greater chances to win. Just that Logan has very minor chances of winning instead of no chances at all.

Definitely 0% i would say and if you do look Logan on that previous fight against Mayweather then you could already see that stamina is also a big problem for Logan which
i wont believe that it could go par with the current old Tyson thats why im really that confident that he could snatch up this fight on easy win if he wanted to.
Well, as an exhibition fight then this is already part of the script that they would need to dance inside the ring to entertain things up.

Lol, that's really true. Since all of this is just for money sake I think they can script out the total fight.
May be Tyson would also get a few punches on his face from Logan if that's on the script. What do you think ?
Will they go to such extent that they might script the whole fight or will Tyson keep his dignity and not lose it for money.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 09, 2021, 05:00:10 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on November 09, 2021, 04:33:57 PM

That's if he wont really be able to be hit up by a solid punch from Mike because even he's already old but doesn't mean that he wont really packed a punch

anymore which its really hard to believe on that he would just easily gas out Tyson on this fight yet Mike itself does know on where he is really in short
which is on stamina.

Even logan does have those trainers or have some good coaches but doesn't mean that it would really be that enough.

The chance of Mike hitting him still possible, even he is old he's training is not fully forgotten, there are some clips before when he is preparing for his fight against Jones and we really seen how fit this old pal to this sport, maybe stamina is the edge of Paul but if Mike converted a solid punch, that edge will be forgotten.

But we can't tell if that particular thing may happen, if promoters allow both fighters to throw real punches and not for the sake of entertaining the fans.

Mayweather before avoiding throwing hard punch to make sure that Paul will stand still Roll Eyes

Saw that clip too.
But did you see the latest one? The video he's practicing with the speed bags.
His head and body movements are still excellent. Though Mike might've greatly decrease his stamina, but he's on a different level than Logan.
If this is a professional fight, Mike would destroy Logan.
Can't underestimate because of his age, he still have a heavy punch. Look at the video on YouTube on how he's hitting his coach with those heavy punches.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 09, 2021, 05:00:10 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on November 09, 2021, 04:33:57 PM

That's if he wont really be able to be hit up by a solid punch from Mike because even he's already old but doesn't mean that he wont really packed a punch

anymore which its really hard to believe on that he would just easily gas out Tyson on this fight yet Mike itself does know on where he is really in short
which is on stamina.

Even logan does have those trainers or have some good coaches but doesn't mean that it would really be that enough.

The chance of Mike hitting him still possible, even he is old he's training is not fully forgotten, there are some clips before when he is preparing for his fight against Jones and we really seen how fit this old pal to this sport, maybe stamina is the edge of Paul but if Mike converted a solid punch, that edge will be forgotten.

But we can't tell if that particular thing may happen, if promoters allow both fighters to throw real punches and not for the sake of entertaining the fans.

Mayweather before avoiding throwing hard punch to make sure that Paul will stand still Roll Eyes

A boxers body would still be that tough even hes already retired and those punches isnt something that you should really be that confident on not to block on unless if there's indeed some negotiations or arrangements that it shouldnt really be in full power to make the fight last longer.

Yeah, you could actually determine and see those punches which are being held back compared on full ones but well its
just part of the play.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on November 09, 2021, 04:33:57 PM

That's if he wont really be able to be hit up by a solid punch from Mike because even he's already old but doesn't mean that he wont really packed a punch

anymore which its really hard to believe on that he would just easily gas out Tyson on this fight yet Mike itself does know on where he is really in short
which is on stamina.

Even logan does have those trainers or have some good coaches but doesn't mean that it would really be that enough.

The chance of Mike hitting him still possible, even he is old he's training is not fully forgotten, there are some clips before when he is preparing for his fight against Jones and we really seen how fit this old pal to this sport, maybe stamina is the edge of Paul but if Mike converted a solid punch, that edge will be forgotten.

But we can't tell if that particular thing may happen, if promoters allow both fighters to throw real punches and not for the sake of entertaining the fans.

Mayweather before avoiding throwing hard punch to make sure that Paul will stand still Roll Eyes

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on November 09, 2021, 04:50:48 PM

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Quote from: DarkDays on November 09, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

I voted for Logan Paul.

Honestly, though Mike Tyson was an absolute animal, he's well into his 50s now. And we can assume the fight wont happen for at least six months, during which he would have deteriorated even further.

Meanwhile Logan Paul is in his prime and has had extensive coaching from some of the greatest in the business, including Shannon Briggs who was a murderous knockout artist.

I think as long as Paul's defense is on point and he has the gas tank for it, he can weather an early storm and eventually beat Tyson on points. Though I still don't think he'd wing a swing up against the old former champ, it would need to be a point win.

That's if he wont really be able to be hit up by a solid punch from Mike because even he's already old but doesn't mean that he wont really packed a punch

anymore which its really hard to believe on that he would just easily gas out Tyson on this fight yet Mike itself does know on where he is really in short
which is on stamina.

Even logan does have those trainers or have some good coaches but doesn't mean that it would really be that enough.

and besides, we don't know their prior arrangement here between these 2. to what extent they will fight. even if tyson is in his 50s, the skill and experience that he had can't be ignored. so im still for tyson here.
but dont get too serious with this, this is only exhibition fight. just relax and enjoy watching this. not betting as we dont know if judges will pull out a draw here because it is only an exhibition fight.

Me myself wont really be putting any bets on any exhibition fight out there because you dont know if there would be some Draw just like on what happened on
Tyson and RJJ which it do sucks big time when you do put big money on the line and it would really be just ending up like that.I agree on what Amorejaz said
that even he's old but the experience and the training does have on a legendary boxer like Mike isnt something that can be ignored but since they are ordered
to dance to amaze people then that they would really be mainly thinking.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on November 09, 2021, 04:33:57 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on November 09, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

I voted for Logan Paul.

Honestly, though Mike Tyson was an absolute animal, he's well into his 50s now. And we can assume the fight wont happen for at least six months, during which he would have deteriorated even further.

Meanwhile Logan Paul is in his prime and has had extensive coaching from some of the greatest in the business, including Shannon Briggs who was a murderous knockout artist.

I think as long as Paul's defense is on point and he has the gas tank for it, he can weather an early storm and eventually beat Tyson on points. Though I still don't think he'd wing a swing up against the old former champ, it would need to be a point win.

That's if he wont really be able to be hit up by a solid punch from Mike because even he's already old but doesn't mean that he wont really packed a punch

anymore which its really hard to believe on that he would just easily gas out Tyson on this fight yet Mike itself does know on where he is really in short
which is on stamina.

Even logan does have those trainers or have some good coaches but doesn't mean that it would really be that enough.

and besides, we don't know their prior arrangement here between these 2. to what extent they will fight. even if tyson is in his 50s, the skill and experience that he had can't be ignored. so im still for tyson here.
but dont get too serious with this, this is only exhibition fight. just relax and enjoy watching this. not betting as we dont know if judges will pull out a draw here because it is only an exhibition fight.

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Quote from: DarkDays on November 09, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

I voted for Logan Paul.

Honestly, though Mike Tyson was an absolute animal, he's well into his 50s now. And we can assume the fight wont happen for at least six months, during which he would have deteriorated even further.

Meanwhile Logan Paul is in his prime and has had extensive coaching from some of the greatest in the business, including Shannon Briggs who was a murderous knockout artist.

I think as long as Paul's defense is on point and he has the gas tank for it, he can weather an early storm and eventually beat Tyson on points. Though I still don't think he'd wing a swing up against the old former champ, it would need to be a point win.

That's if he wont really be able to be hit up by a solid punch from Mike because even he's already old but doesn't mean that he wont really packed a punch

anymore which its really hard to believe on that he would just easily gas out Tyson on this fight yet Mike itself does know on where he is really in short
which is on stamina.

Even logan does have those trainers or have some good coaches but doesn't mean that it would really be that enough.

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If it can be manipulated then don't bet on the favorites as manipulators will likely take the money from the public bets. So in this fight, since people think that Mike Tyson will win and the odds proved it, then probably it's good to just fade them and take Logan Paul instead, I hope my analysis makes sense.

I thought very much the same. At all bookmakers, Mike Tyson is a definite favorite, so if someone only wants to earn, they will give Logan a win.
I don't like that it can happen, but the more I think about it, the more likely it seems to me.

Definitely it's possible that they can manipulate the result to favour someone, but I don't think it will be the case. Most likely the manipulation is that the fight could end up in a draw or there will be talks to Tyson not to knockout Logan Paul.

Of course the line will open with Tyson as a favourite, but it could be a trap just like in his fight against Roy Jones.

There's nothing to manipulate in this fight, both do not have a good record in exhibition matches yet, and to protect Logan is not gonna happen as he survives against Mayweather who is younger than his current opponent, then most probably he will survive with an old Mike Tyson.

An old and ageing Roy Jones admitted after that fight that Tyson's punch has sting.

The Mayweather fight? it looks very manipulated to me, no winner was announce.

Although Compubox numbers shows Floyd 40.2% of his punches, and Paul 12.9%. Numbers don't lie, so if you look at it, Floyd should be the clear winner.

So this might be the case here again, no winner in the end although we might see Tyson winning clearly, just saying.

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Quote from: DarkDays on November 09, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

I voted for Logan Paul.

Honestly, though Mike Tyson was an absolute animal, he's well into his 50s now. And we can assume the fight wont happen for at least six months, during which he would have deteriorated even further.

Meanwhile Logan Paul is in his prime and has had extensive coaching from some of the greatest in the business, including Shannon Briggs who was a murderous knockout artist.

I think as long as Paul's defense is on point and he has the gas tank for it, he can weather an early storm and eventually beat Tyson on points. Though I still don't think he'd wing a swing up against the old former champ, it would need to be a point win.

Nice to see you got Paul, I mean everyone here is voting for Mike Tyson because of his name but they didn't realize Mike Tyson is not the old Mike Tyson that we used to see knocking out his opponents, he is 55 years old now to be exact, and if he still has that power and could KO Logan Paul, then I honestly I would be very surprised as I don't expect at his age he can still take down a trained fighter that is probably bigger than him.

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I voted for Logan Paul.

Honestly, though Mike Tyson was an absolute animal, he's well into his 50s now. And we can assume the fight wont happen for at least six months, during which he would have deteriorated even further.

Meanwhile Logan Paul is in his prime and has had extensive coaching from some of the greatest in the business, including Shannon Briggs who was a murderous knockout artist.

I think as long as Paul's defense is on point and he has the gas tank for it, he can weather an early storm and eventually beat Tyson on points. Though I still don't think he'd wing a swing up against the old former champ, it would need to be a point win.

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Quote from: harizen on November 08, 2021, 06:52:58 PM

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If it can be manipulated then don't bet on the favorites as manipulators will likely take the money from the public bets. So in this fight, since people think that Mike Tyson will win and the odds proved it, then probably it's good to just fade them and take Logan Paul instead, I hope my analysis makes sense.

I thought very much the same. At all bookmakers, Mike Tyson is a definite favorite, so if someone only wants to earn, they will give Logan a win.
I don't like that it can happen, but the more I think about it, the more likely it seems to me.

Definitely it's possible that they can manipulate the result to favour someone, but I don't think it will be the case. Most likely the manipulation is that the fight could end up in a draw or there will be talks to Tyson not to knockout Logan Paul.

Of course the line will open with Tyson as a favourite, but it could be a trap just like in his fight against Roy Jones.

There's nothing to manipulate in this fight, both do not have a good record in exhibition matches yet, and to protect Logan is not gonna happen as he survives against Mayweather who is younger than his current opponent, then most probably he will survive with an old Mike Tyson.

The "protection and manipulation" thing is about the deal before the fight. Not to protect either of them from physical injuries. Mike Tyson will not just fight there to show his strength and capability.

It's obvious that he accepts the exhibition match offer surely with certain conditions that are favored to him.

I don't know about that, and no one knows because it's just speculation.

If all exhibition fights make sure that no one will get hurt, then why are we seeing some boxers who get knocked out? I think that was a serious knock out and it's not stage or something to manipulate the outcome.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 09, 2021, 07:23:56 AM

Well it's really fucked up if this fight is fake Cheesy

But I think isn't, the fight will be happen.
I'm surprised Logan Paul aren't huge underdog here, the odds for draw is very important on this fight because it's high chance it will draw. I'm not favor to bet on detailed condition, it's very hard to guess.

That is because:

1) As you've said, this is an exhibition fight. No one needs a real beating. Draw is enough. In fact, the whole fight is not to show who is better, but to earn on PPV, tickets and promotion.
2) Mike is old
3) Mike needs money. Not desperately, but this might be an easy cheque for him
4) Paul boys have money to make this fight fake
5) Luck might help Logan to survive all the rounds
6) Logans prays that his stamina is greater than Mikes
7) Logan might have a tiny warrior chromosome in his DNA that will make him win this fight and bookies know about it

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Quote from: enhu on November 09, 2021, 01:41:58 AM

I wouldn't say he wouldn't care if he lose. Mike will tear Logans ear if he couldn't get a good shot to Logan and only after that, he wouldn't care. Seriously, this is just an exhibition. Mike I believe has become a good sportsman already. He even allows himself to be laughed at. So if this is about money, Win or loss, It wouldn't matter. He might not care about having a loss in his exhibition record.

Yeah, this exhibition fight won't ruined Tyson's reputation because we all know how good his reputation in real fight it is. He's already old too, he'll gain respect and lose from young people indeed reasonable.

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 09, 2021, 03:20:27 AM

Almost 20 pages of discussion, and their fight is not confirmed by both of them or someone with reputation. What if this is all fake?

Anyone is planning to bet? I've checked some odds on https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/logan-paul-vs-mike-tyson-odds-betting-prediction. But I would like to find more detailed odds. Like in which round there might be a KO. And I dont find odds for draw.

Well it's really fucked up if this fight is fake Cheesy

But I think isn't, the fight will be happen.
I'm surprised Logan Paul aren't huge underdog here, the odds for draw is very important on this fight because it's high chance it will draw. I'm not favor to bet on detailed condition, it's very hard to guess.

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Funny notice: Paul brothers have more fights per year than any other professional boxer Cheesy

Almost 20 pages of discussion, and their fight is not confirmed by both of them or someone with reputation. What if this is all fake?

Anyone is planning to bet? I've checked some odds on https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/logan-paul-vs-mike-tyson-odds-betting-prediction. But I would like to find more detailed odds. Like in which round there might be a KO. And I dont find odds for draw.

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Matches like this one are only for entertainment purposes.
An old boxer versus an amateur,who is more famous as a youtube celebrity,rather than a serious boxer.
This isn't real boxing.This is just a show.
Assuming that the match won't be made up and the two fighters are going to fight for real,I think that Mike Tyson is too old and Logan Paul will win,even though Logan Paul sucks. Grin

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Nobody seems to believe that Mike Tyson is doing it for sports reasons. We all know about his financial troubles. There is no doubt that this whole event is all only about money.
Who wouldn't want to see Mike Tyson in action again? I am sure that if the PPV number from the last event is not exceeded, it will definitely be huge.

Yep,Mike Tyson is doing it for the money,so as every other boxer,even the young professional boxers. Grin

I don't know about any boxer,who would want to fight for free.Boxing can be a dangerous sport,that can potentially cause severe injuries.Boxers have to get paid properly.

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