[BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson - page 6.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on March 05, 2022, 07:34:56 PM

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And it seems, Tyson is not anymore for the money here. So he doesn't want this exhibition fight anymore. He realized, if he will push thru, he's like been milking by these Paul brothers and he doesn't want that to be his last legacy. So yeah, good for Mike Tyson to stop this kind of entertainment in boxing. He's pretty much settled already with his life.

Mike Tyson has a good podcast going on and i am sure he will be fine with that and many public shows that are booked along with his other business especially marijuana business which he started and he is successful in that aspect and he does not need to fight to make money at this age. He wanted to come back because fighting was his passion and to keep his body fit but financially he is safe now.

It was indeed a good thing to see that he somehow managed to overcome his past mistakes, I really thought that it was his end after he got addicted and some other issues that he wasted so much money. And now he is trying to rectify everything by doing some good cause and building business which is a successful especially his Marijuana venture and other business that he's handling.
Yes boxing was his passion but he also knew that his days at the ring and he have no troubles in money now.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 03, 2022, 06:29:24 PM

The fact is that Mike is too old to be fighting. Sure, he could still kick nearly everyone's ass, but the risk of injury or permanent health issues is too much for someone in his position to risk.

Tyson said he was a recovering drug addict, that alone would exclude him from qualifying in most mainstream fights. Putting the body through that kind of strain can force a serious injury or possibly even cardiac incident, a famous sportsman just died at 53 not far off Tyson's age. Add in normal injuries that occur like all the areas around the eye that are easily damaged and age its not worth the risk. From the time on he said he was in recovery I thought it became quite impossible and he gets paid enough just to talk about old fights why risk losing health for money.

When it comes to Mike's cocaine problems, he has spoken about it many times, and he firmly says it's in the past. At the moment, he admits to only smoking marijuana. However, at the moment it doesn't matter as much as just how old he is. No one doubts that Mike still has great abilities and huge experience, but let's not forget that this is a heavy weight. There are no weak players in this weight, and even one not very strong hit could be fatal for any 54-year-old. Even for Iron Mike.

I have also no doubt that Mike's punches are still fatal and he still have that strength to knock out any opponent he takes if he's given a chance, but again he already spoke that his boxing business is over.
Yes he is been open about his addiction in the past, the fact that he's letting people and the public know about that means that he have gone through past that addiction already. And now, yes he is into marijuana only as he also have his own marijuana business called Tyson Ranch.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on March 05, 2022, 06:46:27 PM

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None of his good friends wants to see him fight again at this age, Dana White even said that to the face of Mike Tyson in one of the interview that he does not want to see him compete again even for fun.

And Dana White is right. Even though I would love to see Mike Tyson in the ring, we must realize that he has already taken a lot of hits to the head in his life. There is a very high probability that each subsequent one could cause irreversible consequences. Fortunately, we have video recordings of Tyson's fights (although of poor quality), but they will have to be enough for us.

As for Logan Paul, he for sure have earned enough by simply making fuss around a possible fight with Mike Tyson, so he should be happy.

Mike Tyson's fight videos are of very poor quality, but they can be restored using neural networks and artificial intelligence.

In the future, it might even be possible to recreate these fights in 3D. And then create a full-fledged avatar of Mike Tyson (as well as recreate the avatar of Paul Logan).

It will be possible to organize a battle between these avatars and place bets on the outcome of the battle.

Therefore, it is not so important whether this fight will take place in reality or not.

The development of technology will lead to the fact that we will still see this fight, but in virtual reality.

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Quote from: CaVO32 on March 05, 2022, 06:34:28 PM

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And it seems, Tyson is not anymore for the money here. So he doesn't want this exhibition fight anymore. He realized, if he will push thru, he's like been milking by these Paul brothers and he doesn't want that to be his last legacy. So yeah, good for Mike Tyson to stop this kind of entertainment in boxing. He's pretty much settled already with his life.

Mike Tyson has a good podcast going on and i am sure he will be fine with that and many public shows that are booked along with his other business especially marijuana business which he started and he is successful in that aspect and he does not need to fight to make money at this age. He wanted to come back because fighting was his passion and to keep his body fit but financially he is safe now.

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None of his good friends wants to see him fight again at this age, Dana White even said that to the face of Mike Tyson in one of the interview that he does not want to see him compete again even for fun.

And Dana White is right. Even though I would love to see Mike Tyson in the ring, we must realize that he has already taken a lot of hits to the head in his life. There is a very high probability that each subsequent one could cause irreversible consequences. Fortunately, we have video recordings of Tyson's fights (although of poor quality), but they will have to be enough for us.

As for Logan Paul, he for sure have earned enough by simply making fuss around a possible fight with Mike Tyson, so he should be happy.

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I thought Tyson would take this fight for the sake of easy money, but it turns out just the opposite:

Mike Tyson words: "I don't think I'd ever just do stuff like that anymore. I wanted to do it the first time just for fun, just to have fun. Then some people took it to another level and made it financial and the fun went out of it."

If there was a serious discussion about the fight then i am sure Mike Tyson would have approved for the fight but in this instance the Paul brothers just used the name of Mike Tyson to get more promotion and nothing else and they get more media time.

Quote from: kotwica666 on March 04, 2022, 05:10:54 PM

It seems that health is more important to him than money, and even though I wish we could see Iron Mike in the ring, I'm glad he makes very rational and wise decisions.

None of his good friends wants to see him fight again at this age, Dana White even said that to the face of Mike Tyson in one of the interview that he does not want to see him compete again even for fun.

And it seems, Tyson is not anymore for the money here. So he doesn't want this exhibition fight anymore. He realized, if he will push thru, he's like been milking by these Paul brothers and he doesn't want that to be his last legacy. So yeah, good for Mike Tyson to stop this kind of entertainment in boxing. He's pretty much settled already with his life.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on March 04, 2022, 05:10:54 PM

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I thought Tyson would take this fight for the sake of easy money, but it turns out just the opposite:

Mike Tyson words: "I don't think I'd ever just do stuff like that anymore. I wanted to do it the first time just for fun, just to have fun. Then some people took it to another level and made it financial and the fun went out of it."

If there was a serious discussion about the fight then i am sure Mike Tyson would have approved for the fight but in this instance the Paul brothers just used the name of Mike Tyson to get more promotion and nothing else and they get more media time.

Quote from: kotwica666 on March 04, 2022, 05:10:54 PM

It seems that health is more important to him than money, and even though I wish we could see Iron Mike in the ring, I'm glad he makes very rational and wise decisions.

None of his good friends wants to see him fight again at this age, Dana White even said that to the face of Mike Tyson in one of the interview that he does not want to see him compete again even for fun.

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Quote from: STT on March 05, 2022, 07:13:49 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on March 03, 2022, 06:29:24 PM

The fact is that Mike is too old to be fighting. Sure, he could still kick nearly everyone's ass, but the risk of injury or permanent health issues is too much for someone in his position to risk.

Tyson said he was a recovering drug addict, that alone would exclude him from qualifying in most mainstream fights. Putting the body through that kind of strain can force a serious injury or possibly even cardiac incident, a famous sportsman just died at 53 not far off Tyson's age. Add in normal injuries that occur like all the areas around the eye that are easily damaged and age its not worth the risk. From the time on he said he was in recovery I thought it became quite impossible and he gets paid enough just to talk about old fights why risk losing health for money.

By paying attention to this, the risk that can be obtained is not comparable, I think, but it goes back to the person concerned whether he really loves his body or will only think about money in this case because it is indeed a wasteful and almost bankrupt measure like him, then take things like Even this doesn't surprise me even though there will be a lot of people restraining it.

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Quote from: STT on March 05, 2022, 07:13:49 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on March 03, 2022, 06:29:24 PM

The fact is that Mike is too old to be fighting. Sure, he could still kick nearly everyone's ass, but the risk of injury or permanent health issues is too much for someone in his position to risk.

Tyson said he was a recovering drug addict, that alone would exclude him from qualifying in most mainstream fights. Putting the body through that kind of strain can force a serious injury or possibly even cardiac incident, a famous sportsman just died at 53 not far off Tyson's age. Add in normal injuries that occur like all the areas around the eye that are easily damaged and age its not worth the risk. From the time on he said he was in recovery I thought it became quite impossible and he gets paid enough just to talk about old fights why risk losing health for money.

When it comes to Mike's cocaine problems, he has spoken about it many times, and he firmly says it's in the past. At the moment, he admits to only smoking marijuana. However, at the moment it doesn't matter as much as just how old he is. No one doubts that Mike still has great abilities and huge experience, but let's not forget that this is a heavy weight. There are no weak players in this weight, and even one not very strong hit could be fatal for any 54-year-old. Even for Iron Mike.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 03, 2022, 06:29:24 PM

The fact is that Mike is too old to be fighting. Sure, he could still kick nearly everyone's ass, but the risk of injury or permanent health issues is too much for someone in his position to risk.

Tyson said he was a recovering drug addict, that alone would exclude him from qualifying in most mainstream fights. Putting the body through that kind of strain can force a serious injury or possibly even cardiac incident, a famous sportsman just died at 53 not far off Tyson's age. Add in normal injuries that occur like all the areas around the eye that are easily damaged and age its not worth the risk. From the time on he said he was in recovery I thought it became quite impossible and he gets paid enough just to talk about old fights why risk losing health for money.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on March 04, 2022, 05:10:54 PM

I thought Tyson would take this fight for the sake of easy money, but it turns out just the opposite:

Mike Tyson words: "I don't think I'd ever just do stuff like that anymore. I wanted to do it the first time just for fun, just to have fun. Then some people took it to another level and made it financial and the fun went out of it."

It seems that health is more important to him than money, and even though I wish we could see Iron Mike in the ring, I'm glad he makes very rational and wise decisions.

seeing how exhibition boxing matches have been used as an easy money grab for people who is complete amateur or have no prior experience of boxing, I completely agree with him and understand his sentiment. exhibition matches should be for fun for the boxers/athletes.

Exhibition is really just for fun but on the essence that it do becomes a money grab and some do make use of its popularity for even making more money then i couldnt blame on why he refused on making out fight arrangements or making or letting it to happen.
He would definitely prioritize his health which its a wise decision just like on what others been saying on here.Lets just respect on what he had chose.
If this is someone who is really a boxer then he might accept the deal but its not.Even with Roy Jones exhibition he might still have doubts.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on March 04, 2022, 05:10:54 PM

I thought Tyson would take this fight for the sake of easy money, but it turns out just the opposite:

Mike Tyson words: "I don't think I'd ever just do stuff like that anymore. I wanted to do it the first time just for fun, just to have fun. Then some people took it to another level and made it financial and the fun went out of it."

It seems that health is more important to him than money, and even though I wish we could see Iron Mike in the ring, I'm glad he makes very rational and wise decisions.

seeing how exhibition boxing matches have been used as an easy money grab for people who is complete amateur or have no prior experience of boxing, I completely agree with him and understand his sentiment. exhibition matches should be for fun for the boxers/athletes.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 05, 2022, 03:32:17 AM

It is already safe to assume that this won't happen in the near future because Mike Tyson also said that he won't be stepping on the boxing ring anymore to fight, either if it is sanctioned or not sanctioned by the Athletic Commission. This supposed fight was just a hype and there's no actual negotiations happened.
As for Logan Paul, I really don't call him or include him in the "new generation of boxers" or even a professional boxer. He doesn't deserved it!

Logan Paul is just in this industry to make a noise while he is showing and enjoying his life on his youtube videos. He doesn't really deserve to be called and to be recognized as new generation boxers because I don't think he deserves this kind of recognition with his current standing in boxing. Like he just wanted to hype the game and earn money from it and as we all know there are some speculations that if ever the fight of Mike Tyson vs. Logan Paul pushed through it would be just a kind of cooking show. So for me, it's a smart move from Mike Tyson to step out on the boxing ring now due to his age, he already proven his worth as a boxer and he is recognized as one of the good boxer.

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Quote from: boltz on March 01, 2022, 09:14:18 AM

This fight won't even happen. Not now , not in the future or ever. This was just an idea of quick money grabbing and in my opinion , boxing is a dying sport right now and it's sad but true.

Regarding this event, I would be ashamed of me if I was Logan Paul ...just to have the guts to challenge the Iron Tyson says a lot about this new generations of boxers who barely have respect for the sport or his opponent or veterans.

It is already safe to assume that this won't happen in the near future because Mike Tyson also said that he won't be stepping on the boxing ring anymore to fight, either if it is sanctioned or not sanctioned by the Athletic Commission. This supposed fight was just a hype and there's no actual negotiations happened.
As for Logan Paul, I really don't call him or include him in the "new generation of boxers" or even a professional boxer. He doesn't deserved it!

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It's not his health but it's clear he doesn't want to be the reason or be an advantage for some entertainers out there to have a good profit in return.

It is true that from the quote I gave earlier, it appears that Mike does not want to fight for the money, and in particular, for someone to make money from his name. However, in the same interview, he admitted that his body changes with age.

"Every 12-13 months, boom! Something's missing," "Boom! I'm losing muscle mass. It's always something different. And, I don't know. Guys want to fight me for $100 million,"

So from all of the statements we can conclude that if he were to fight, it would be for fun and not for money and that he realizes that a real fight at his age is not a safe and smart idea.

No one on his right mind on putting his health at risk for some millions.Well, for people who are young then it wouldnt matter but for an old man which his health is already that fragile then i dont see for
it to be worth on putting up himself into trouble specially if he do knows that he's financially well and doesnt really need more money for that sake.IF he's having that passion for boxing
then he might consider but using up his name for others benefits then it wouldnt really be an enough reason for him to agree on.

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 04, 2022, 07:38:14 PM

Quote from: kotwica666 on March 04, 2022, 05:10:54 PM

Mike Tyson words: "I don't think I'd ever just do stuff like that anymore. I wanted to do it the first time just for fun, just to have fun. Then some people took it to another level and made it financial and the fun went out of it."

It seems that health is more important to him than money, and even though I wish we could see Iron Mike in the ring, I'm glad he makes very rational and wise decisions.

It's not his health but it's clear he doesn't want to be the reason or be an advantage for some entertainers out there to have a good profit in return.

If this fight happened, Logan Paul will have easy money out of his fun because he will be dragged by the name of Mike Tyson. In today's generation, there are always people who want to watch Mike Tyson again as they never have had a chance to witness his greatness before.

Since that's the situation, expect that his exhibition match will gather a lot of viewers making their fight a big profitable event.

Yes, everyone who watched his fights were eager to watch him live fighting again, but this isn't gonna happen. Op needs to change the polling subject, whether the match will be conducted or not. Even without anything happening, just with the mentioning of Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson he's earning big. Everything is watched with the business perspective and that's where Logan have chosen Mike Tyson as it'll reach big user community.

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 04, 2022, 07:38:14 PM

It's not his health but it's clear he doesn't want to be the reason or be an advantage for some entertainers out there to have a good profit in return.

It is true that from the quote I gave earlier, it appears that Mike does not want to fight for the money, and in particular, for someone to make money from his name. However, in the same interview, he admitted that his body changes with age.

"Every 12-13 months, boom! Something's missing," "Boom! I'm losing muscle mass. It's always something different. And, I don't know. Guys want to fight me for $100 million,"

So from all of the statements we can conclude that if he were to fight, it would be for fun and not for money and that he realizes that a real fight at his age is not a safe and smart idea.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on March 04, 2022, 05:10:54 PM

Mike Tyson words: "I don't think I'd ever just do stuff like that anymore. I wanted to do it the first time just for fun, just to have fun. Then some people took it to another level and made it financial and the fun went out of it."

It seems that health is more important to him than money, and even though I wish we could see Iron Mike in the ring, I'm glad he makes very rational and wise decisions.

It's not his health but it's clear he doesn't want to be the reason or be an advantage for some entertainers out there to have a good profit in return.

If this fight happened, Logan Paul will have easy money out of his fun because he will be dragged by the name of Mike Tyson. In today's generation, there are always people who want to watch Mike Tyson again as they never have had a chance to witness his greatness before.

Since that's the situation, expect that his exhibition match will gather a lot of viewers making their fight a big profitable event.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 03, 2022, 06:29:24 PM

Quote from: boltz on March 01, 2022, 09:14:18 AM

This fight won't even happen. Not now , not in the future or ever.

Agreed.

I thought Tyson would take this fight for the sake of easy money, but it turns out just the opposite:

Mike Tyson words: "I don't think I'd ever just do stuff like that anymore. I wanted to do it the first time just for fun, just to have fun. Then some people took it to another level and made it financial and the fun went out of it."

It seems that health is more important to him than money, and even though I wish we could see Iron Mike in the ring, I'm glad he makes very rational and wise decisions.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 03, 2022, 05:29:44 PM

Quote from: boltz on March 01, 2022, 09:14:18 AM

This fight won't even happen. Not now , not in the future or ever. This was just an idea of quick money grabbing and in my opinion , boxing is a dying sport right now and it's sad but true.

Regarding this event, I would be ashamed of me if I was Logan Paul ...just to have the guts to challenge the Iron Tyson says a lot about this new generations of boxers who barely have respect for the sport or his opponent or veterans.

Thinking the future of the boxing sports it seems that you are right it's almost dying right now .but I hope that's not gonna happen.
There are different kinds of attitudes the fighter has, some fighter are very respectful, they will respect their opponents until the end of their fight. But there's other fighter get the crowd by bragging and talk bad things about their opponents.

Not everything would really be the same because each fighter does have their own behavior whether they are just silent and humble and some do really trashtalks a lot or something disrepectful.
As for industry then it is true that boxing do become obviously a business not like on the past that we could really see quality fights but now it is mostly involved with lots of exhibition
which is purely for money making purposes. Grin

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