Topic: [Boxing]: Oscar Valdez vs Emmanuel Navarette - Aug 12 (Read 578 times)

It's premature to speculate about retirement. The last two boxers who defeated him are both great fighters, so he should view these experiences as valuable learning opportunities. At the age of 32, there are still numerous fights ahead for him, providing ample chances to regain his reputation. Eventually, he might find a weight division that suits him well and could potentially dominate before retiring.

The two boxers who bested him, Emanuel Navarrete and Shakur Stevenson, are both champions, making the defeats understandable. What I appreciate about Valdez is his willingness to take on the best opponents. While some undefeated boxers choose to maintain their records by selecting easier opponents, Valdez isn't afraid to face tough challenges, which makes him more exciting to watch.

Yep, I do agree, it's easy to conclude that at this point of his career, he should retire, although he really took a lot in his last fight with Navarette. But his first lost was really devastating against Shakur as it looks like he took Valdez soul that night. And it could be his best change to redeem himself and win another belt against Navarrete.

And with that I also agree that he can beat Joe Cordina and Luis Garcia. But it might be different against a slick fighter in Foster.

But let's see, hopefully he won't consider retiring. Might be needing just a tune up fight again before chasing for belts again.

I doubt Valdez will retire right away. He just lost to the better man. Valdez landed huge power shots at Navarette that are capable of knocking out any guys in the division. It's just that Navarette is not only heavy-handed but has a very tough chin and a thick skin as I can't find any cut or bruise in his face.

I'd still favor Valdez to win over WBA champion Hector Luis Garcia and IBF champion Joe Cordina. Maybe it's 50/50 against the WBC champion O'Shaquie Foster. So there are still a lot of good fights left for Valdez before retiring. As for Navarette, he wants to unify his belt and there are also some rumors about a potential match-up against Shakur Stevenson who's already campaigning 1 division north.

I would love to see unification fights for this division to have an undisputed champion. I believe Navarrette would be the favorite now but the other networks are the main hurdle if they allow their underdogs to fight someone from a rival network with a huge potential of losing.

I agree with you mate, seems that he is due for retirement already. He got Naverette in the chin a few times but somehow it didn't bother the latter so that means his power is fading already and like you said, he can't win in a championship fight so better for him to retire. I don't know if there is a rematch clause on this one and if indeed there is, better if Valdez won't exercise it.

While it's reasonable to acknowledge that he's currently facing challenges in his career, it wouldn't be accurate to label him as 'old' just yet. At 32 years old, he still has plenty of fighting years ahead. Perhaps taking a step back to reflect on his recent losses and evaluate his mistakes could be beneficial. Consider the case of Anthony Joshua and other boxers who have faced defeats after being champions. They've managed to rebound and continue fighting, even earning big opportunities after their setbacks.

Personally, I firmly believe that Oscar Valdez won't give up. He'll undoubtedly put in the hard work, focus on areas that need improvement, and come back stronger than ever.

As been expected the fight will be exciting and both will survive because they're Mexican, congratulations for Navarette and nice try for Valdez. I think Valdez's boxing career is already near to end as he can't win against a champion, he only fight for 1-2 in a year. Valdez has a stamina, but he's just not good enough and he's already quite old, he will improving too much even he will train more harder.

He needs to get closer to Navarette because he is the smaller guy. But when he tries and be the aggressor early, Oscar Valdez is being tag and he is like a sitting duck there waiting to be hit. And I was surprised that the corner of Valdez, the game trainer Eddy Reynoso doesn't have a plan B.

It seems that their plan is to really go out and trying to out punch and taller and has the reach advantage and thinks that they can wear him down. Navarette is much smarter that we think now. We thought that he was just a brawler. But in this fight he switches stand that confused Valdez and has a chin to hold against Valdez left hook.

Emanuel Navarrete was very comfortable in this fight, he didn't seem to be pressured, it was as if he wasn't fighting and was doing a training, until the 7th round and his opponent Oscar Valdez already had his face hurt, it was like If Oscar Valdez's face was an easy target for Oscar Valdez, I didn't watch the fight live, but I watched the fight afterwards, and I was wondering how Oscar Valdez had such a bruised face while Emanuel Navarrete looked so well, it gave me the impression that the guy had started to fight and hadn't taken any blows yet and it was visible to me that Oscar Valdez was making an effort to win the fight, but his efforts were not producing the desired result

in my opinion Oscar Valdez's mistake is that he got too close to Emanuel Navarrete and when he threw a punch he then ducked to dodge Emanuel Navarrete's counterattack, but Emanuel Navarrete has a left punch that landed on Oscar Valdez and this was repeated many times during the fight



and at the end of the fight it was very visible the damage that Oscar Valdez had during the fight and on the other side it was visible that Emanuel Navarrete didn't have any damage on his face, it was as if Emanuel Navarrete hadn't fought. this shows how big the difference between the fighters was during the fight. I hope that Oscar Valdez's team keeps reviewing the video of this fight so that they instruct Oscar Valdez not to comment on the same mistakes he made in this fight, something that I could also see and maybe I could be wrong, and that it seemed to me that the punches of Oscar Valdez were less effective, were punches without much power for the blows he managed to land on Emanuel Navarrete, it was supposed to see at least Emanuel Navarrete with a little bruised face, something I didn't see

And it didn't live to the hype of a Mexican war as it was just a one sided beating. The length of Navarette really causes a big problem on Valdez and he wasn't able to solved that. Although he had his moments, but the chin of Navarette is well tested that even Oscar best shot has no effect to Navarette.

And with that win, there's no more challenges for Navarette to stay at 130 lbs. Unless Shakur is willing to go down to 130 lbs again. But he has been eyeing 135 lbs and a fight with Haney or even Loma. So I don't think that it's going to be wise decision for Shakur to fight Navarette. Unless Navarette is willing to go up to 135 lbs because it seems that he can do it.

The scorecard did not reflect the excitement of the fight, watching the fight from start to end I'm convinced that Navarette won the match proves why he is called a volume puncher, Navarette throws over 1000 punches not even half of what Valdez has thrown, Valdez's face is badly swollen compared to Navarette who just take every power punch Valdez thrown.
Navarette should eye Shakur for a much bigger paycheck and legacy fight, I'm sure it will attract a lot of attention for these two fighters decide to square inside the ring.

You're correct, as many of us assume that bookies have insight into the likely winner before a fight. In this case, despite Navarette being the defending champion, Valdez was actually listed as the favorite to win. This typical expectation was overturned in the actual fight.

Now, Valdez has experienced two consecutive losses in championship fights. The question arises: what lies ahead for him?

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Congratulations to the bettors who guess it right, the odds was 4.20 for Navarette  to win by decision.

Many of us here were mistaken in our predictions. Valdez appeared significantly smaller against Navarette, and his movement seemed predictable. Navarette managed to evade Valdez's powerful shots and counter with heavy punches. During the announcement of the winner, Navarette's face remained relatively fresh, whereas Valdez's face bore visible damage. Therefore, the judges decision appears to be accurate; Valdez wasn't yet prepared for this division.

Yes, as what we said, he doesn't play that much defense because his chin can take up punches although Liam caught him in their last fight, but we was able to survived and win. But in here, Valdez punches doesn't have any effect on his chin and he is just eating that and then he throws some as well.


Yeah, no controversy whatsoever, it seems though the argument is that how many round did Oscar Valdez win because in one judges he only won 2 rounds. But for me it's fair, it's just right about Oscar winning 2-3 rounds out of the 12 as Navarette was in total control of the fight in the early rounds and then also took control of the championship rounds.

And it looks like Valdez doesn't have the power to knockout anyone at 135 lbs. He hit Navarette clean in the early rounds if I'm not mistaken, but it didn't put a dent on Navarette. But instead he keeps coming for more after that left hook and then he score his own left hook as well.

For me Valdez doesn't have it anymore. It seems that Shakur really took out his soul. It was a different Oscar after that, although he won his comeback fight to set up this clash with his fellow Mexican, he wasn't the same anymore.

Yeah, as Baofeng have said, Valdez couldn't cut the distance and Navarette wisely uses his advantage and that awkward combination that made Valdez too busy defending those thus making the fight one-sided and boring to watch for those non-hardcore boxing fans. 

Congrats @inthelongrun if you have betted for your guy, damn, I should have followed your lead hehe.

Navarette knows how to use his long reach to his advantage he is one of the few boxer that can pour that big number of punches I guess Valdez was overwhelmed by that barrage of punches once he threw the right jab he follows it up with a left straight and uppercut causing Valdez to lose his composure, and Navarette jus eats up Valdez punches it has no impact on hos chin and head.
I agree with the decision, Navarette earn points in the early rounds and is the one controlling the championship rounds its not even too close, I don't think this fight deserve a rematch its clear for us who is the better fighter between the two.

Navarette really looks prepared for this fight, that 1000 punches could be near records for a fight at 130 lbs. Oscar is too small against him and can't get to the spot wherein he can execute his left hook.

Not sure how long Navarette though can stay at this weight class. If he goes up at 135 lbs, that's where the real danger are for him as there are a lot of good boxers even as tall as him that can give him problems even if he throws that kind of numbers in their fight.

Yes, it was just one sided beating here, I have my score 118-110 for Navarette. I thought that Valdez will show more in the latter rounds. But the sheer volume of punches + the length of Navarette is too much for Valdez to overcome as he can't get inside and he will be tag 1,2,3, if he tries to come inside.

Congrats to those who have Navarette on their bet even at ML, it already juicy.

Navarette did what he has been doing throwing a lot of punches pouring everything to win via unanimous 116 - 112 118 -110, 1119 -109  this is probably the best fight so far among the Mexicans, the fight is very exciting from start to finish but Navarette shows the heart scoring over 1000 punches against Valdez just over 400.
Valdez face is all mess up because of the too many punches landed by Navarette, the two fighters perform what they've promise to all audiences.

1 minute remaining before the fight starts. Somehow I caught the betting line.

Navarrete, Emanuel versus Valdez, Oscar - Winner - Valdez, Oscar @1.43

Just going for the favorite and also I think Oscar Valdez is the better boxer. The Olympic amateur background of Valdez will help a lot to win this match. Although, I am curious about what camp Valdez's strategy is against the volume puncher Navarrete. Because if they cannot stop that, they might lose this one in a split decision. I wish they are ready for it.
We will see it in a few minutes.