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Topic: [Boxing] Pacquiao Vs Vargas - page 5. (Read 3889 times)

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November 05, 2016, 03:50:29 AM
Just hours renaming for one of the most anticipated returns in boxing in a very long time,i am sure Pacquiao will win this one and he should face Mayweather one more time and i am sure he is only person who can beat him at the moment.
the whole world wants this fight to happen but payweather is no longer interested unless pacman will give everything in favor to him but this coming game i believe manny wants to show the fans even more hoping that he can make a knock out again and make another hype for his career waiting for the time now. good luck Kabayan!!!
As much as I love to bet on Pacquaio but the line is not really good for me, should be an automatic win. I guess I have to parlay this bet with Donaire with the odds of 1.60 while pacquiao has 1.14, is must be a good parlay bet, right?

I need your opinion here guys, do I have to pull the trigger or not yet? Grin Grin
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November 05, 2016, 02:00:12 AM
Just hours renaming for one of the most anticipated returns in boxing in a very long time,i am sure Pacquiao will win this one and he should face Mayweather one more time and i am sure he is only person who can beat him at the moment.
the whole world wants this fight to happen but payweather is no longer interested unless pacman will give everything in favor to him but this coming game i believe manny wants to show the fans even more hoping that he can make a knock out again and make another hype for his career waiting for the time now. good luck Kabayan!!!
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November 05, 2016, 01:53:07 AM
Just hours renaming for one of the most anticipated returns in boxing in a very long time,i am sure Pacquiao will win this one and he should face Mayweather one more time and i am sure he is only person who can beat him at the moment.
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November 05, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
I would never ever count out Manny Pacquiao, he is a world class fighter, thought competitor, he never gives up, he still has big explosive moves, he can take punishment... he is a dangerous opponent. Of course, age has it's impact on the body, and maybe he runs out of gas now faster than before, but if he can he will go for the KO.
And Manny is full of experience in boxing but Vargas is in a good condition to fight manny in a long period of time let the match to judge to knows who is the greatest with this two boxer.
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November 04, 2016, 11:09:13 PM
For sure going to watch this match and root for pacman, even though the pacman is not as strong as it used to be, but i think he still can win this match, and i am a little bit surprise by the pacman comeback, i thought he already mention his retirement

How can you say that Pacman is not as strong as it used to be? Maybe Pacman is getting older and his endurance is getting weaker as he gets older. But I do believe that Pacman is becoming stronger with the help of God. But I am more confident if Manny is just going to quit boxing already and he just needs to focus with his charity works and his job as public servant.

Well you just stated the obvious, Pacman getting older, less endurance, and I'm sure his punch is not as strong as before.  Haven't checked his movement and footwork,  probably age will come to work on this area.  We have no question on experience but both has experience in fighting inside the ring so there is no new comer between the two.  And Manny must be very careful because it is proven that he can kiss the canvas.

I honestly want to see Manny kiss the canvass again so that he can finally retire. Sometimes you wonder why he is still doing this. He is already a senator in his country. So maybe he should start working hard for his people instead of entertaining them with his boxing. It is said in the news that he is the most absent lawmaker in his country when he was still in congress.
legendary
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November 04, 2016, 12:06:42 PM
I would never ever count out Manny Pacquiao, he is a world class fighter, thought competitor, he never gives up, he still has big explosive moves, he can take punishment... he is a dangerous opponent. Of course, age has it's impact on the body, and maybe he runs out of gas now faster than before, but if he can he will go for the KO.
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November 04, 2016, 11:27:41 AM
This will not be going to be exciting another miss match fight for paquiao lmao it's like another punhing bag trying to fight with pacman the odds is really ridiculous vargas @7 and pacman @1.1 it's kinda funny the fight will bw held in las vegas on november 6 in philippines and november 5 in las vegas i am thinking if am going to place bet for pacman 😂😂
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November 04, 2016, 11:07:36 AM

This also catches me by surprise. I thought he was retired after the Bradley fight, but it seems Bob ARum said Manny needs a lot of money in order to create help plans for the people of the Philippines. Manny Pacqiao alone can make more money than most people combined on that country.

You maybe correct since Manny will have a huge payoffs in boxing.Also, Manny Pacquiao become well known on boxing. It is in boxing that he carve his name,that is why he can not easily leave boxing as it is also his passion.
It's time to pac man leave boxing, his age is already old to keep fight and i hear if i'm wrong it will be the last time he fights.
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November 04, 2016, 10:59:35 AM

This also catches me by surprise. I thought he was retired after the Bradley fight, but it seems Bob ARum said Manny needs a lot of money in order to create help plans for the people of the Philippines. Manny Pacqiao alone can make more money than most people combined on that country.

You maybe correct since Manny will have a huge payoffs in boxing.Also, Manny Pacquiao become well known on boxing. It is in boxing that he carve his name,that is why he can not easily leave boxing as it is also his passion.

Maybe  you are somehow  correct regarding on  helping the  people   on  Philippines with his   winnings but  I wont  believe it would  be on full he would surely put  up only a small percentage  on it. Im quite shocked  too regarding  on this  fight because   Pacquiao  is already a senator and now at the same time he still fight   on  boxing  which is  amazing to handle this things back up again.

It is not as publicized as before.
I think part of the "disinterest" would be because coming out of retirement is usually a wait and see game...
Nobody felt his retirement.. and while he said that it was his passion.. it is also known that he owes the country ( BIR ) huge taxes that needs to be paid.
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November 04, 2016, 10:52:56 AM

This also catches me by surprise. I thought he was retired after the Bradley fight, but it seems Bob ARum said Manny needs a lot of money in order to create help plans for the people of the Philippines. Manny Pacqiao alone can make more money than most people combined on that country.

You maybe correct since Manny will have a huge payoffs in boxing.Also, Manny Pacquiao become well known on boxing. It is in boxing that he carve his name,that is why he can not easily leave boxing as it is also his passion.

Maybe  you are somehow  correct regarding on  helping the  people   on  Philippines with his   winnings but  I wont  believe it would  be on full he would surely put  up only a small percentage  on it. Im quite shocked  too regarding  on this  fight because   Pacquiao  is already a senator and now at the same time he still fight   on  boxing  which is  amazing to handle this things back up again.
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November 04, 2016, 10:23:40 AM

This also catches me by surprise. I thought he was retired after the Bradley fight, but it seems Bob ARum said Manny needs a lot of money in order to create help plans for the people of the Philippines. Manny Pacqiao alone can make more money than most people combined on that country.

You maybe correct since Manny will have a huge payoffs in boxing.Also, Manny Pacquiao become well known on boxing. It is in boxing that he carve his name,that is why he can not easily leave boxing as it is also his passion.
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November 04, 2016, 09:24:46 AM
I am one of the people who are not aware of the upcoming fight.
I thought Pacquiao is currently busy with what is happening with the government because of his senate position. It is not even being advertized here in Philippines about the fight.  Undecided

This also catches me by surprise. I thought he was retired after the Bradley fight, but it seems Bob ARum said Manny needs a lot of money in order to create help plans for the people of the Philippines. Manny Pacqiao alone can make more money than most people combined on that country.
Pacqiao has announced his retirement after the Bradley fight but pacquiao said recently about watching Gennady Golovkin's win over Kell Brook gave him motivation to return to the ring and he has even expressed his desire to fight Amir Khan ,Lets see how he could match against Vargas ,if he is fully dedicated to the fight i have no doubt Pacquiao will win
well pacman is still fit to fight. he still have a speed, accuracy and strength. I don't see any reason he should retire at this moment. I think vargas will be down in the 8th round. its all about the heart of a champion. for me 3 more fights for the pacman after vargas. 
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November 04, 2016, 08:11:36 AM
I am one of the people who are not aware of the upcoming fight.
I thought Pacquiao is currently busy with what is happening with the government because of his senate position. It is not even being advertized here in Philippines about the fight.  Undecided

This also catches me by surprise. I thought he was retired after the Bradley fight, but it seems Bob ARum said Manny needs a lot of money in order to create help plans for the people of the Philippines. Manny Pacqiao alone can make more money than most people combined on that country.
Pacqiao has announced his retirement after the Bradley fight but pacquiao said recently about watching Gennady Golovkin's win over Kell Brook gave him motivation to return to the ring and he has even expressed his desire to fight Amir Khan ,Lets see how he could match against Vargas ,if he is fully dedicated to the fight i have no doubt Pacquiao will win
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November 04, 2016, 04:19:30 AM

Yes the UFC is indeed getting more and more popular and it is feeling like boxing is on its way down now. After Manny Pacquiao who will be the fighter to watch? The people who are avid and hardcore fans of boxing are dwindling in numbers. Some of them are now watching MMA because it is more exciting. Also the organizations like WBA, IBF, WBC and WBO are known to commit corruption time and time again.

Of course, there should be new fighters in the coming years. You know that boxing and basketball were the heart of philippine sports and same as Mexico does and I'm pretty sure that you can see much more PacMan like in the near future.  I love MMA i just hate how UFC treat their fighters like Mcgregor before and Brandon Vera who went out from the UFC and join ONEFC

So are you telling that all the boxing organizations and fight promoters are picture perfect,they are corrupted as hell and they will only promote cash fights it is doomed to fail and MMA is also run by private companies but we get to see more fights worth to watch,Mexico does produce world class boxers now and again but i am yet to catch a world class athlete other than pacquiao from philippine's, i didnt meant to disrespect anyone,just my genuine doubt

Nope ,did I really say that? I don't care if how corrupt those organizations are even the government. Well,being corrupt is a human nature. There are probably corrupt organizations but treated their fighters well and that is what I am trying to emphasize. Yes, of course, I also do believe that Pacman is yet the best fighter right now in the Philippines and I think that it was also the main reason why he has not retired yet because he hasn't found a prodigy.
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November 03, 2016, 02:15:26 PM
For those who really not aware of the fight especially those people living in the Philippines, I see one of the reason why they aren't aware is because Vargas name doesn't ring the bell here in the PH. It doesn't reached those people who aren't a boxing enthusiast and doesn't watch sports news regularly. It's not that it's not popular but rather people here are not updated with the sports news. It's been on news months ago and during Senate hearing it has been also mentioned.

Few days before the match, the odds are slightly moving in both parties. Just can't put a bet of around $700 to win $100 on Pacquaio's moneyline. Better play with the other betting options with good odds that worth to try.
legendary
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November 03, 2016, 11:19:28 AM
I am one of the people who are not aware of the upcoming fight.
I thought Pacquiao is currently busy with what is happening with the government because of his senate position. It is not even being advertized here in Philippines about the fight.  Undecided

This also catches me by surprise. I thought he was retired after the Bradley fight, but it seems Bob ARum said Manny needs a lot of money in order to create help plans for the people of the Philippines. Manny Pacqiao alone can make more money than most people combined on that country.
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November 03, 2016, 11:01:03 AM
For sure going to watch this match and root for pacman, even though the pacman is not as strong as it used to be, but i think he still can win this match, and i am a little bit surprise by the pacman comeback, i thought he already mention his retirement

How can you say that Pacman is not as strong as it used to be? Maybe Pacman is getting older and his endurance is getting weaker as he gets older. But I do believe that Pacman is becoming stronger with the help of God. But I am more confident if Manny is just going to quit boxing already and he just needs to focus with his charity works and his job as public servant.

Well you just stated the obvious, Pacman getting older, less endurance, and I'm sure his punch is not as strong as before.  Haven't checked his movement and footwork,  probably age will come to work on this area.  We have no question on experience but both has experience in fighting inside the ring so there is no new comer between the two.  And Manny must be very careful because it is proven that he can kiss the canvas.
Yeah but Pacman have a lot of experience in boxing but we didn't know lets wait's the match result that we saw whos the greatest between this two boxing fighter.
Well it's obvious also with his previous fights that it's not the same explosive pacquiao anymore but a more technical boxer. I don't think there's going to be a ko for manny here but a win is very likely although im not counting out vargas as youth will be an advantage for him as experience will be for pacquiao
legendary
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November 03, 2016, 10:31:52 AM
Manny wins money line is very low, so we need to risk a lot of money to win a little, but we will win easily.
actually the odds for Pacquiao slightly increase today because i saw several days ago at directbet only 1.09 and currently 1.12 indeed there is no reason provide high odds for Pacquiao because Vargas has lack of experience and achievement if we compare with Pacquiao even though performance from Pacquiao has decrease but from many side Pacquiao is more better rather than Vargas
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November 03, 2016, 09:17:56 AM
For sure going to watch this match and root for pacman, even though the pacman is not as strong as it used to be, but i think he still can win this match, and i am a little bit surprise by the pacman comeback, i thought he already mention his retirement

How can you say that Pacman is not as strong as it used to be? Maybe Pacman is getting older and his endurance is getting weaker as he gets older. But I do believe that Pacman is becoming stronger with the help of God. But I am more confident if Manny is just going to quit boxing already and he just needs to focus with his charity works and his job as public servant.

Well you just stated the obvious, Pacman getting older, less endurance, and I'm sure his punch is not as strong as before.  Haven't checked his movement and footwork,  probably age will come to work on this area.  We have no question on experience but both has experience in fighting inside the ring so there is no new comer between the two.  And Manny must be very careful because it is proven that he can kiss the canvas.
Yeah but Pacman have a lot of experience in boxing but we didn't know lets wait's the match result that we saw whos the greatest between this two boxing fighter.
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November 03, 2016, 09:17:19 AM
Manny wins money line is very low, so we need to risk a lot of money to win a little, but we will win easily.

manny is the pride of our country. win or loose we are for manny. its not just about the power, speed or endurance. its all about the heart. the heart of a champion. i don't see any reasons why others don't know that he has a fight this coming November 6. it was all advertise very well.
Is it advertise 3 months ago before? Because i know if Pacquiao have a match up 5months before it is on the time when contract has been set it will be announce and advertise morely 1 month before .Many of us don't know about that upcoming Fight even Vargas i have no informations about him.
Yeah no matter who will win on this fight as long as it is a good fight no one have injuries and the very important thing is the sportsmanship and  praise to the creator for that fight .

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