[Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November - page 16.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

My heart says Tyson as well because I can't comprehend a "boxer" like Jake Paul having a real chance to actually beat Tyson. I've also recently saw a lying detector test for Jake Paul and even him doesn't believe he can beat Tyson because as soon as you enter in that ring with him , you lost the fight.

Sure , this event involves a lot of money , involves an old Tyson who needs money and involves a young Jake Paul who guess what ...do have the money to make this fight happen but also have the money to pay Tyson and I'm sure he also has the money to "rig" this fight and make it more entertainment than a real boxing fight. At least this is how I currently see this situation.

Well, that will likely happen, especially because Jake pays them all, including Tyson. But if he can't KO Tyson, it will still be Jake by decision. I couldn't see Mike winning, but he can make it even just a decision or draw.

It must be profitable for Netflix to make this fight live on them that they really intend to make this happen after several delays. Netflix opening a door for this kind of event will probably make this a regular event.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

My heart says Tyson as well because I can't comprehend a "boxer" like Jake Paul having a real chance to actually beat Tyson. I've also recently saw a lying detector test for Jake Paul and even him doesn't believe he can beat Tyson because as soon as you enter in that ring with him , you lost the fight.

Sure , this event involves a lot of money , involves an old Tyson who needs money and involves a young Jake Paul who guess what ...do have the money to make this fight happen but also have the money to pay Tyson and I'm sure he also has the money to "rig" this fight and make it more entertainment than a real boxing fight. At least this is how I currently see this situation.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on October 31, 2024, 09:49:33 PM

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Mike Tyson is almost 3:1 underdog, so obviously, we will make a lot of money if he will win, via KO or Decision. But it's the question that at his age, will Mike still has that power, or if he has, can he land it against a younger opponent in Jake Paul? So really hard to bet on Mike hear as we have pointed out, he had retired for a long time and so he is already a grand father vs a young and prime boxer although not a professional in a sense, but still all advantage points to Jake Paul here.

who knows, coz mike still have strength and i can hear it on his every punch during his training for this fight especially the speed, it's really amazing to be honest wherein he seems like not an old man when moving and punching .

Training is different though, body bags doesn't throw back and we have seen a lot of good fighters in training moving like they are going to win. But when the bell rings, it's totally different for them.

Quote from: Ararbermas on October 31, 2024, 09:49:33 PM

so i believe if he take it seriously for sure jake paul will end up KO. Lastly ,i don't believe that his skills fades already because its built in and what will be the problem on mike here is the stamina since his opponent is very young.

Btw good odds and i will set my calendar for this and i hope it will not change soon.

Tyson will make this fight and take it seriously, and will go in the first couple of rounds and see if Jake Paul has a good chin. But for sure Jake Paul knows this so he might run early and then we see that Tyson is tired in the middle of the rounds, then he might go and try to score more points. And yes, stamina is going to be a big key in this fight. For Tyson, he shouldn't out punch himself.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 31, 2024, 02:55:32 PM

Tyson has looked impressive in all the training videos he has posted on social media. Neither fighter is enrolled in VADA and the state of Texas is not strict about drug testing. It makes me question if Tyson is taking some special supplements to enhance his performance. It will still be a difficult challenge for Tyson considering his age. I don’t expect him to win but I hope he can put up a good fight and expose Paul’s weaknesses. Jake Paul struggling against an old man would really bruise his ego and might negatively affect his marketability.

And that is the thing with Mike Tyson or the promoter of the fight itself, they wanted to show the fans that Mike can still pull the trigger, but nevertheless, I see him just have enough for 2-3 rounds and then he will get tired.

I don't know what kind of drugs Tyson should have to take though in order to win this fight. As for Jake, I don't know, but if you look at his body and in this fight, he had to gain a lot of pounds and muscles to be considered as a Heavyweight, so most likely he might be taking some.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 31, 2024, 06:05:08 AM

Mike Tyson is almost 3:1 underdog, so obviously, we will make a lot of money if he will win, via KO or Decision. But it's the question that at his age, will Mike still has that power, or if he has, can he land it against a younger opponent in Jake Paul? So really hard to bet on Mike hear as we have pointed out, he had retired for a long time and so he is already a grand father vs a young and prime boxer although not a professional in a sense, but still all advantage points to Jake Paul here.

who knows, coz mike still have strength and i can hear it on his every punch during his training for this fight especially the speed, it's really amazing to be honest wherein he seems like not an old man when moving and punching .
so i believe if he take it seriously for sure jake paul will end up KO. Lastly ,i don't believe that his skills fades already because its built in and what will be the problem on mike here is the stamina since his opponent is very young.

Btw good odds and i will set my calendar for this and i hope it will not change soon.

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It no secret that some people consider this fight blasphemy against boxing, but it an exhibition and some people also consider it entertainment and nostalgia for Mike Tyson in the boxing ring, I quite happy with Mike Tyson willingness to fight again even though he has lower chance of winning against Paul.
Paul is far more favored but as Mike Tyson fan betting little money on him to win and supporting him is matter of pride because after all this fighting has happened there no guarantee we get to see it again for second time.

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Tyson has looked impressive in all the training videos he has posted on social media. Neither fighter is enrolled in VADA and the state of Texas is not strict about drug testing. It makes me question if Tyson is taking some special supplements to enhance his performance. It will still be a difficult challenge for Tyson considering his age. I don’t expect him to win but I hope he can put up a good fight and expose Paul’s weaknesses. Jake Paul struggling against an old man would really bruise his ego and might negatively affect his marketability.

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I have been seeing the Netflix "documentary" previews every single time that I log in to netflix. Someone the other day was arguing with me trying to act like Mike Tyson had no chance of winning due to his age, which I find hilarious as Tyson might be older but he can still beat the shit out of the majority of people regardless of age. He's Iron Mike Tyson, you don't just completely lose those "powers", so to speak. Can't wait.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 30, 2024, 06:16:38 PM

There is already a thread on this fight, if I weren't mobile I'd find it. Regardless, I will refrain from betting as I am not 100% sure the fight isn't just a staged fight. Jake Paul picks big names and makes a ton of money from the fights as does the other fighter he is fighting with at the time. If I was sure it wasn't a rigged fight, I would put some money on Tyson as his KO power is incredible.

That's always a risk with those fights, especially given past rumours about some strange secret clauses in Paul's opponents' contracts etc. In all fairness, I don't think the risk of the fight being straight-rigged, meaning Mike would agree to take a dive etc. I would imagine that would be illegal and at this level they wouldn't be able to keep things like that secret. Especially considering Paul has lost one of such fights (to Tommy Fury).
I think the biggest risk factor is Jake Paul using performance-enhancement drugs. I don't believe he would get tested for such (I could be wrong though). Otherwise I don't think Paul's team would have to resort to paying Mike to lose. Paul is a big favourite anyway and lets not pretend Tyson is resistant to aging. He's not the same boxer that he used to be. And if either of them loses, it won't be the end of the world for them.

Quote from: TravelMug on October 31, 2024, 05:55:08 AM

(...) But at 58 years old, I doubt that he can bring back that old version of himself. He might be good for at least a couple of rounds and then age will caught up on him and get tired and no gas tank as the fights goes along and that could be his downfall.

That's why I think he would have to go all in either in round 1 or round 2 and search for a KO if he seriously wants to win it.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 31, 2024, 08:30:33 AM

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That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

yeah, the match was postponed because of his health condition, he does look like he has recovered from it. from what I know he has sciatica and peptic ulcer, both of which are recurring so it is possible that he will suffer from it again in the future, both health conditions are nasty and painful when it occurs. I just hope this fight doesn't cause a flare-up on his conditions.

It's the ulcer that really cause the postponement last July. Unfortunately, Netflix has already put a lot of money in the promotion so they can't simply postponed or cancelled this fight. And it was reported that Tyson has been paid $20 million already.

Hopefully Tyson will be 100% in the fight so that there will be no excuses.

Although we should expect that Jake Paul is going to win here as Tyson is old and we might say that he shouldn't box at all.

$20M is a lot to refuse for Mike; after all, this is just an exhibition fight, and even if he loses, it's fine. He just has to keep the doctor in his corner all the time and call the fight off if he feels something.

It's expected already that Mike will lose as well. The old man is 58, who does that at such an age but Mike. It got demand because he is the hero of legendary boxers and people want to see him fight still.

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Quote from: acroman08 on October 31, 2024, 05:36:52 AM

Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

yeah, the match was postponed because of his health condition, he does look like he has recovered from it. from what I know he has sciatica and peptic ulcer, both of which are recurring so it is possible that he will suffer from it again in the future, both health conditions are nasty and painful when it occurs. I just hope this fight doesn't cause a flare-up on his conditions.

It's the ulcer that really cause the postponement last July. Unfortunately, Netflix has already put a lot of money in the promotion so they can't simply postponed or cancelled this fight. And it was reported that Tyson has been paid $20 million already.

Hopefully Tyson will be 100% in the fight so that there will be no excuses.

Although we should expect that Jake Paul is going to win here as Tyson is old and we might say that he shouldn't box at all.

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Mike Tyson is almost 3:1 underdog, so obviously, we will make a lot of money if he will win, via KO or Decision. But it's the question that at his age, will Mike still has that power, or if he has, can he land it against a younger opponent in Jake Paul? So really hard to bet on Mike hear as we have pointed out, he had retired for a long time and so he is already a grand father vs a young and prime boxer although not a professional in a sense, but still all advantage points to Jake Paul here.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

Yes, he had like ulcer or something.

Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul did continue to fight on the supposedly scheduled date on June 24 and defeated Mike Perry.

Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

He is a huge favorite, so yes, most likely he will win this fight. But for sentimental feelings, others like you might want Tyson to win. For those generation who have seen Mike Tyson fight in his prime, he is really that scary. But at 58 years old, I doubt that he can bring back that old version of himself. He might be good for at least a couple of rounds and then age will caught up on him and get tired and no gas tank as the fights goes along and that could be his downfall.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

yeah, the match was postponed because of his health condition, he does look like he has recovered from it. from what I know he has sciatica and peptic ulcer, both of which are recurring so it is possible that he will suffer from it again in the future, both health conditions are nasty and painful when it occurs. I just hope this fight doesn't cause a flare-up on his conditions.

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That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 30, 2024, 06:03:47 PM

Most experts agree that it should be an easy win for Paul, that includes his former opponents, Ben Askren and Mike Perry:

they are probably considering Mike Tyson's age and especially the health issue he has because, without the health issue, I would completely go for Mike Tyson.

anyway, I'm sure a lot of people would put a bet on their fight but if you ask me, it is not worth it.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 30, 2024, 06:16:38 PM

There is already a thread on this fight, if I weren't mobile I'd find it.

here's the thread If you're into boxing betting, would you bet on Mike Tyson or Jake Paul?

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There is already a thread on this fight, if I weren't mobile I'd find it. Regardless, I will refrain from betting as I am not 100% sure the fight isn't just a staged fight. Jake Paul picks big names and makes a ton of money from the fights as does the other fighter he is fighting with at the time. If I was sure it wasn't a rigged fight, I would put some money on Tyson as his KO power is incredible.

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In a little bit more than 2 weeks from now, on 15th November, a highly controversial fight will take place between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. It's dubbed by many to be a profanation of boxing, and it's hard to disagree.
Nevertheless, it's happening, so worth having a dedicated thread to discuss.

Most experts agree that it should be an easy win for Paul, that includes his former opponents, Ben Askren and Mike Perry:
https://talksport.com/boxing/2206286/jake-paul-ben-askren-mike-perry-mike-tyson-prediction/

But still, it's Mike Tyson, a former undisputed heavyweight champion, who despite his age (58) still knows how to throw a punch. Some training footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBIAwVnt_1U

The odds for Mike are currently at x3.40, so could be a good bet. All he needs to do is to successfully explode early on before he gasses out. I wouldn't be putting any serious money on that though.

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