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I am excited about the match does anyone here think that there would be a knock out or both fighters will stay until the end of 12 round? I see that Ryan is really a good puncher and he doesn't only have the power but the fast. The counters would definitely knocked Tagoe.

It's almost the match and both fighters preparing for this fight all I can say is that this is a good fight and interesting to watch cause they are both good fighter and in this juncture ill prefer to choose Ryan Garcia what you said above he is a good puncher and has a good footwork as well. But we can not still predict the winner cause tagoe is a good boxer as well for sure he will trained hard for this match so let see in the live.

I don't think they are going to knock anyone out, I think they will reach the 12th round, from what I have seen the two boxers have been preparing very hard and have a very good chance of being able to be with all their strength, I don't see any weakness at this point, the bets may lean more towards Ryan but I don't trust him, Tagoe has a very good technique and will show very aggressive boxing, the fact that Garcia has many followers makes Tagoe a little itchy and that can cause a little more desire to go out and look for a knockout, but the truth is that I don't think that's it.



Nowadays, social networks are destroyers of an image and even of people's lives, since any social network exists you can get involved and make anyone look ridiculous, this is something that athletes know, the fact that Ryan misusing something is part of what he has to improve and mature.
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^^ I guess were really live in the social media era. I mean everyone has some kind of presence online. So if you are a sport personalities, you can used that platform to promote yourself, just like what Ryan is doing. But do I agree that sometimes he went overboard with it that you have to think if ever he is still serious in his career or just wanting to have followers in his twitter or instagram. But whatever it is, the hype is still around him so I guess the can do whatever he wants in his account.
Its his life then just let him be on how he would deal up with things as long he wont really be able to let his career to mess up then i dont see any problems if he spend soo much time on his social media.
Its true that its one of the ways on marketing yourself but its true that sometimes its already that irrelevant or something that really irritating for my part.I dont know on what on others
perspective but i do agree in to those points elaborated above which is definitely precise.
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It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
If you have a nice track on how Garcia fights on his previous matches then you could really able to notice the difference of his jabs when it comes to precision and swiftness but this one do really lacks of that but somehow you could really still see that it is really fast but not really that much on the same when he was still before.

Ring rust and this is where people do speculate about it but it doesnt matter though and as been said that it did really show off on what are the flaws or problems that needs to adjust and
thanks to Tagoe to be the guinea pig. Cheesy

Yes, it is really clear that he lack something except about the jab because he still learning how to master it and I do not know if you guys noticed about it but there's some huge difference since he trained by Goossen, well I'm not saying that Goossen is not a good coach but just like you said, his precision and prowess isn't that much now. IMO, Garcia could really knocked out Tagoe if he didn't swap trainor.
Garcia have no fights for 15 months and thats why some people do really make out some reasons that it is a ring rust but most likely this is really having some trainers effect on how he fought but lets see if he

would able to get his tempo back on his upcoming fights and wont really be seeing the same style on what he used on Tagoe.Im not saying Tagoe isnt good but he's not a fighter that you could really give your best
shot.
Dominance is there but it do really lacks that kind of good impression if you do compare his jabs back in the past.

Garcia is a work in progress he has huge potential but it's never challenged his promoters The Golde Boy Promotion 
obviously is protecting him, he is their big superstar and their cash cow but it never lived up to the boxing experts' expectations his status is already eclipsed by Kambosos, before the Lopez fight he is unknown, but now Kamboso's popularity soared he has 3 titles compared to Garcia who up to know still not won a single title.
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It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
If you have a nice track on how Garcia fights on his previous matches then you could really able to notice the difference of his jabs when it comes to precision and swiftness but this one do really lacks of that but somehow you could really still see that it is really fast but not really that much on the same when he was still before.

Ring rust and this is where people do speculate about it but it doesnt matter though and as been said that it did really show off on what are the flaws or problems that needs to adjust and
thanks to Tagoe to be the guinea pig. Cheesy

Yes, it is really clear that he lack something except about the jab because he still learning how to master it and I do not know if you guys noticed about it but there's some huge difference since he trained by Goossen, well I'm not saying that Goossen is not a good coach but just like you said, his precision and prowess isn't that much now. IMO, Garcia could really knocked out Tagoe if he didn't swap trainor.
Garcia have no fights for 15 months and thats why some people do really make out some reasons that it is a ring rust but most likely this is really having some trainers effect on how he fought but lets see if he

would able to get his tempo back on his upcoming fights and wont really be seeing the same style on what he used on Tagoe.Im not saying Tagoe isnt good but he's not a fighter that you could really give your best
shot.
Dominance is there but it do really lacks that kind of good impression if you do compare his jabs back in the past.
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Yes, it is really clear that he lack something except about the jab because he still learning how to master it and I do not know if you guys noticed about it but there's some huge difference since he trained by Goossen, well I'm not saying that Goossen is not a good coach but just like you said, his precision and prowess isn't that much now. IMO, Garcia could really knocked out Tagoe if he didn't swap trainor.

Even a good boxer will have a hard time beating a fighter who knows how to survive, run, duck, hug and use every tactic just to survive the fight, have you seen Tagoe's expression after the fight he is happy and gives a sigh of relief after the fight, obviously he doesn't want to be on a long list of boxers Ryan has knocked out for him he already wins by surviving and that's not good for Ryan, on his next fight he should take a fighter who can really face him, hopefully, the winner of the Haney - Kambosos fight.
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It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
If you have a nice track on how Garcia fights on his previous matches then you could really able to notice the difference of his jabs when it comes to precision and swiftness but this one do really lacks of that but somehow you could really still see that it is really fast but not really that much on the same when he was still before.

Ring rust and this is where people do speculate about it but it doesnt matter though and as been said that it did really show off on what are the flaws or problems that needs to adjust and
thanks to Tagoe to be the guinea pig. Cheesy

Yes, it is really clear that he lack something except about the jab because he still learning how to master it and I do not know if you guys noticed about it but there's some huge difference since he trained by Goossen, well I'm not saying that Goossen is not a good coach but just like you said, his precision and prowess isn't that much now. IMO, Garcia could really knocked out Tagoe if he didn't swap trainor.
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Anyways, he still have the power and agility needed. He can still make up for his mistakes and improve to be a much more better boxer than his latest performance.

Enough to convince us that Ryan Garcia is ready for his next big fight. He will be having a big fight next for sure, hopefully we will be able to see him fight this year. you like to see this one?

Ryan Garcia next fight: Eddie Hearn pushing hard for Maxi Hughes shot

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It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
If you have a nice track on how Garcia fights on his previous matches then you could really able to notice the difference of his jabs when it comes to precision and swiftness but this one do really lacks of that but somehow you could really still see that it is really fast but not really that much on the same when he was still before.

Ring rust and this is where people do speculate about it but it doesnt matter though and as been said that it did really show off on what are the flaws or problems that needs to adjust and
thanks to Tagoe to be the guinea pig. Cheesy

I think that is one weapon they wanted Garcia to developed and surely he used it a lot in this fight. And also we have to say that moving from one coach to another really affected the way he fight in this one.

And that's why it was a sort of 'different' version of him, that's why boxing fans and experts then try to find fault on his game plan and execution. And because he didn't get a knock out victory. But still, the kid is growing and for sure big fights for him are being set up by GBP after the Tagoe fight.
Lots had been saying that this was because of the new coach/trainer on why he fight up that way.You could really see his footsteps arent really that the same as before or he just simply underestimating Tagoe?

Cant really be denied the difference in power and speed but we are expecting  something more than that because thats not how Garcia punches but well what matter most is he ended up on UD.

Adjustments could be made later on if there are really some lapses or major changes which it isnt appealing.

Maybe but we cannot confirm that specific speculation if that's the one why Garcia's movements was different unlike to his past fights where he can dominate easily his opponents, and I think ringrust isn't the reason for this one.

Anyways, he still have the power and agility needed. He can still make up for his mistakes and improve to be a much more better boxer than his latest performance.
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It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
If you have a nice track on how Garcia fights on his previous matches then you could really able to notice the difference of his jabs when it comes to precision and swiftness but this one do really lacks of that but somehow you could really still see that it is really fast but not really that much on the same when he was still before.

Ring rust and this is where people do speculate about it but it doesnt matter though and as been said that it did really show off on what are the flaws or problems that needs to adjust and
thanks to Tagoe to be the guinea pig. Cheesy

I think that is one weapon they wanted Garcia to developed and surely he used it a lot in this fight. And also we have to say that moving from one coach to another really affected the way he fight in this one.

And that's why it was a sort of 'different' version of him, that's why boxing fans and experts then try to find fault on his game plan and execution. And because he didn't get a knock out victory. But still, the kid is growing and for sure big fights for him are being set up by GBP after the Tagoe fight.
Lots had been saying that this was because of the new coach/trainer on why he fight up that way.You could really see his footsteps arent really that the same as before or he just simply underestimating Tagoe?

Cant really be denied the difference in power and speed but we are expecting  something more than that because thats not how Garcia punches but well what matter most is he ended up on UD.

Adjustments could be made later on if there are really some lapses or major changes which it isnt appealing.
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It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
If you have a nice track on how Garcia fights on his previous matches then you could really able to notice the difference of his jabs when it comes to precision and swiftness but this one do really lacks of that but somehow you could really still see that it is really fast but not really that much on the same when he was still before.

Ring rust and this is where people do speculate about it but it doesnt matter though and as been said that it did really show off on what are the flaws or problems that needs to adjust and
thanks to Tagoe to be the guinea pig. Cheesy

I think that is one weapon they wanted Garcia to developed and surely he used it a lot in this fight. And also we have to say that moving from one coach to another really affected the way he fight in this one.

And that's why it was a sort of 'different' version of him, that's why boxing fans and experts then try to find fault on his game plan and execution. And because he didn't get a knock out victory. But still, the kid is growing and for sure big fights for him are being set up by GBP after the Tagoe fight.
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It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
If you have a nice track on how Garcia fights on his previous matches then you could really able to notice the difference of his jabs when it comes to precision and swiftness but this one do really lacks of that but somehow you could really still see that it is really fast but not really that much on the same when he was still before.

Ring rust and this is where people do speculate about it but it doesnt matter though and as been said that it did really show off on what are the flaws or problems that needs to adjust and
thanks to Tagoe to be the guinea pig. Cheesy
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Tagoe managed to exposed the weakness of Ryan Garcia that is nice that he managed to do it but the problem is if Garcia is now fulfilling this shortcomes he has but I think a few months of training is not enough though even if he can train those weaknesses I think it is not yet or far to be perfect.

I like to ask, what was the weakness you are talking about?

Sorry, because I believe Ryan Garcia really dominated the fight and Tagoe was just there to survive and take a good cut on that fight.
Did Tagoe even hurt Ryan Garcia? If Tagoe goes for a toe to toe fight, for sure that would not last 12 rounds.

Garcia dominated the fight? Please watch the replay and you will see he is having difficulty.

I think you are just referring to the boxer's name and don't bother to watch even the highlights. Tagoe put Ryan on his limits and we should give him credit for that. Ryan is not even satisfied with his performance even though he wins.

Agree with the above, OP can now consider locking this thread as we might see other analysis that is supposedly not associated on the fight.

I agree! Ryan Garcia himself isn't really satisfied to his own performance about the fight and he also admitted that he have a lot of aspects that he needed to improve to make his punch more fatal because he already have the agility to do it. Even if Tagoe was defeated by Garcia, he needs to have that credits because he managed to expose the latter's weaknesses and one of those weaknesses was the lack of defense that got him knocked down when he faced Campbell before.

Either way, Garcia's victory isn't that much of a big deal because it was just a UD. IMO Smiley

I don't think he as exposed, it's that that Tagoe just make the fight difficult for Ryan because of style clash.

On the contrary, Ryan has admitted that he doesn't like his performance so he will try and go and improved the next time he fights. And this is going to be work on with his new coach and for sure Goosen has seen a lot of flaws from Ryan that he will have to addressed on the next training season with him.

It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
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Tagoe managed to exposed the weakness of Ryan Garcia that is nice that he managed to do it but the problem is if Garcia is now fulfilling this shortcomes he has but I think a few months of training is not enough though even if he can train those weaknesses I think it is not yet or far to be perfect.

I like to ask, what was the weakness you are talking about?

Sorry, because I believe Ryan Garcia really dominated the fight and Tagoe was just there to survive and take a good cut on that fight.
Did Tagoe even hurt Ryan Garcia? If Tagoe goes for a toe to toe fight, for sure that would not last 12 rounds.

Garcia dominated the fight? Please watch the replay and you will see he is having difficulty.

I think you are just referring to the boxer's name and don't bother to watch even the highlights. Tagoe put Ryan on his limits and we should give him credit for that. Ryan is not even satisfied with his performance even though he wins.

Agree with the above, OP can now consider locking this thread as we might see other analysis that is supposedly not associated on the fight.

I agree! Ryan Garcia himself isn't really satisfied to his own performance about the fight and he also admitted that he have a lot of aspects that he needed to improve to make his punch more fatal because he already have the agility to do it. Even if Tagoe was defeated by Garcia, he needs to have that credits because he managed to expose the latter's weaknesses and one of those weaknesses was the lack of defense that got him knocked down when he faced Campbell before.

Either way, Garcia's victory isn't that much of a big deal because it was just a UD. IMO Smiley

I don't think he as exposed, it's that that Tagoe just make the fight difficult for Ryan because of style clash.

On the contrary, Ryan has admitted that he doesn't like his performance so he will try and go and improved the next time he fights. And this is going to be work on with his new coach and for sure Goosen has seen a lot of flaws from Ryan that he will have to addressed on the next training season with him.
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Tagoe managed to exposed the weakness of Ryan Garcia that is nice that he managed to do it but the problem is if Garcia is now fulfilling this shortcomes he has but I think a few months of training is not enough though even if he can train those weaknesses I think it is not yet or far to be perfect.

I like to ask, what was the weakness you are talking about?

Sorry, because I believe Ryan Garcia really dominated the fight and Tagoe was just there to survive and take a good cut on that fight.
Did Tagoe even hurt Ryan Garcia? If Tagoe goes for a toe to toe fight, for sure that would not last 12 rounds.

Garcia dominated the fight? Please watch the replay and you will see he is having difficulty.

I think you are just referring to the boxer's name and don't bother to watch even the highlights. Tagoe put Ryan on his limits and we should give him credit for that. Ryan is not even satisfied with his performance even though he wins.

Agree with the above, OP can now consider locking this thread as we might see other analysis that is supposedly not associated on the fight.

I agree! Ryan Garcia himself isn't really satisfied to his own performance about the fight and he also admitted that he have a lot of aspects that he needed to improve to make his punch more fatal because he already have the agility to do it. Even if Tagoe was defeated by Garcia, he needs to have that credits because he managed to expose the latter's weaknesses and one of those weaknesses was the lack of defense that got him knocked down when he faced Campbell before.

Either way, Garcia's victory isn't that much of a big deal because it was just a UD. IMO Smiley
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Tagoe managed to exposed the weakness of Ryan Garcia that is nice that he managed to do it but the problem is if Garcia is now fulfilling this shortcomes he has but I think a few months of training is not enough though even if he can train those weaknesses I think it is not yet or far to be perfect.

I like to ask, what was the weakness you are talking about?

Sorry, because I believe Ryan Garcia really dominated the fight and Tagoe was just there to survive and take a good cut on that fight.
Did Tagoe even hurt Ryan Garcia? If Tagoe goes for a toe to toe fight, for sure that would not last 12 rounds.

Garcia dominated the fight? Please watch the replay and you will see he is having difficulty.

I think you are just referring to the boxer's name and don't bother to watch even the highlights. Tagoe put Ryan on his limits and we should give him credit for that. Ryan is not even satisfied with his performance even though he wins.

Agree with the above, OP can now consider locking this thread as we might see other analysis that is supposedly not associated on the fight.
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Tagoe managed to exposed the weakness of Ryan Garcia that is nice that he managed to do it but the problem is if Garcia is now fulfilling this shortcomes he has but I think a few months of training is not enough though even if he can train those weaknesses I think it is not yet or far to be perfect.

I like to ask, what was the weakness you are talking about?

Sorry, because I believe Ryan Garcia really dominated the fight and Tagoe was just there to survive and take a good cut on that fight.
Did Tagoe even hurt Ryan Garcia? If Tagoe goes for a toe to toe fight, for sure that would not last 12 rounds.

Lol, the moral of the fight is that you can't hurt what you can't hit. That may be the flaws of Ryan Garcia that he is talking about. This was the first fight of Garcia that went to the full 12 rounds, for me this is a good start because this will build Ryan's stamina as not all of his fights will end in a KO, so better to prepare for 12 rounds.

OP, you can lock the thread now as it is already three days after the fight.
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I thought that Garcia could really make that happen because he managed to knock down Tagoe in the 2nd round, but the latter became so fast on escaping Garcia's punches while he's trying to shake that effect and he realized that he can't just defeat Ryan Garcia with his current power.

In the first 2 rounds, yes a good counters can be seen from Tagoe but after he knocked down he don't usually go and exchange punches as it could really put him in a dangerous situation where he could be knocked out. Also, I think that he already had that stamina because he didn't fight Garcia for a toe-to-toe because if he did then he wouldn't last 12 rounds as he would be gassed out first.
Tagoe was making some arguments that it wasnt a down but if we would really be seeing in slow motion it was indeed a down where that punch landed on his cheek-part which is damn fast and swift.

He had realized that it would really be that dangerous if he goes to belt to belt in exchange with punches with Garcia.You could really see the difference in terms of speed and power.
Garcia do even chase him directly by simply walking forwards with guard up and Tagoe just do run and evade.
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Latest update: Ryan Garcia is back via unanimous decision win against Tagoe, not the kind of fight that we want to see, we want an explosive Garcia and knock out Tagoe but Ryan is having a hard time because Tagoe is always on the run and hugging Ryan I like it better this way Ryan shows aggressiveness and endurance it's hard to chance a fighter who is running away, Tagoe is a big disappointment on this fight.

That's what those boxers do when they felt the power of their opponent except for the few warriors who actually clash with their opponent in the middle of the ring even though their opponent's punches are explosives. We saw earlier a fighter that doesn't really suffice our expectations which is not really bad at all because Ryan stayed undefeated and can still showcase his boxing skills for us in his future big fights.

Yeah, it was very clear that Tagoe strategy is not to engage Ryan and just run, and as you can see the crowd is not very happy and you can hear the boos. But you can't do anything about it, if the other one doesn't want to fight toe to toe then it's not Ryan's fault. Nevertheless, a win is a win so he is back and it seems that he has matured though, no more name calling after the fight.

Tagoe is trying to avoid those solid punches from Garcia. Those punches that landed on him keep bringing him down. It's nice to see Garcia is back on his rhythm expect more quality fights after this. Garcia is still young and now that he is back, for sure, promoters will take these opportunities to call for another sensational fighter to take him.

Congrats to all those who won too bad we don't see toe-to-toe engagements between the two, but likewise, a win still a win.

Tagoe tried to entertain Garcia and tried to exchange some of that blows but in the first few rounds he suddenly realized that he cannot withstand those punches and he can't keep up with his speed, so the only last resort is to try and survive the fight without getting a defeat by a KO. Later on, it's like I'm seeing Rigo again hehe.

Now, Ryan Garcia is back. We'll see if they can get a fight with Kambosos Jr.
Garcia had speculated to finish off the fight 3-4th round but he had missed it out due for Tagoe is really keeps on evading and running and its true that i do see Rigo on him but somewhat he do really make out

some good counters too and this guy does have that stamina considering on lasting 12 rounds.The fight ends up on UD and i dont see that Garcia is really in good shape yet those punches are little bit off
and most of them are swings not into that typical precise shots made. Just because of new trainer?

I thought that Garcia could really make that happen because he managed to knock down Tagoe in the 2nd round, but the latter became so fast on escaping Garcia's punches while he's trying to shake that effect and he realized that he can't just defeat Ryan Garcia with his current power.

In the first 2 rounds, yes a good counters can be seen from Tagoe but after he knocked down he don't usually go and exchange punches as it could really put him in a dangerous situation where he could be knocked out. Also, I think that he already had that stamina because he didn't fight Garcia for a toe-to-toe because if he did then he wouldn't last 12 rounds as he would be gassed out first.
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But, I don't think so since Ryan Garcia can change his style and even he fights a boxer it will depend if they can make up with him with his speed.
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Tagoe managed to exposed the weakness of Ryan Garcia that is nice that he managed to do it but the problem is if Garcia is now fulfilling this shortcomes he has but I think a few months of training is not enough though even if he can train those weaknesses I think it is not yet or far to be perfect.

I like to ask, what was the weakness you are talking about?

Sorry, because I believe Ryan Garcia really dominated the fight and Tagoe was just there to survive and take a good cut on that fight.
Did Tagoe even hurt Ryan Garcia? If Tagoe goes for a toe to toe fight, for sure that would not last 12 rounds.
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