[BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 - page 7.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 07, 2022, 08:34:17 PM

As per Ryan Garcia, he is now working with a jab, he admitted that he hasn't used it in the past. But if he can developed this one, like his mentor and manager, Oscar Dela Hoya, it will be a different version of Garcia.

Just imagine this, he is tall and have the length advantage and with that jab, no one can get inside of him so that will be a very dangerous and difficult fighter to beat. So let's see if he is going to take advantage of his jab in this fight.

Yes, I also read about that earlier, here it is:

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“The jab is definitely improving. In some of the past fights, I didn’t really use it,” said Garcia. “I’ll be looking forward to using my jab a little bit better in this fight. We all know that the jab is the key in the sport. It sets up a lot of shots. So I’ve been working on that. I have the talent to use pretty much any type of shot, right? If I could really master the jab, it can take me to another level.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-if-i-really-master-jab-it-take-me-another-level--165313

Aside from being a knockout specialist, he also need to master it because that will likely give him more advantage as he's taller than anyone in the division and have the right reach to do the job as his knockouts can be more effective using the jab to confuse his opponent. I mean, he's already a good and fast boxer but he lacks some other technique so that his punches can be more effective. His punches can only be lethal if he landed it perfectly.

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I am excited about the match does anyone here think that there would be a knock out or both fighters will stay until the end of 12 round? I see that Ryan is really a good puncher and he doesn't only have the power but the fast. The counters would definitely knocked Tagoe.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 08, 2022, 06:29:23 AM

Obviously, it's a cherry-pick.. why would Ryan Garcia choose an unknown fighter when he is even challenging champions? He even challenged Manny Pacquiao when the latter was still active. Ryan Garcia will consider this fight as a preparation for a serious fight, so it's understandable that the odds are not attractive betting on him.

But it will still be interesting to see Ryan, much more interesting because it's a long layoff coming from depression it's not easy to fight your inner demons and come back to see if the demons are still lurking, it's not about the easy fight here, it's about how challenged Ryan is.
It's a big disappointment if Ryan cannot knock this guy out, I like to see Ryan knock this guy out in the latter rounds, the early rounds to make him feel he is back in the ring.

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Being great in boxing can bring you a lot of fans so technically he’s a superstar and talented, because of his winning matches it attract more followers for him. Its sad to see someone suffering from a mental illness but its really good that we can see Garcia again to have a fight. I still expect the same thing from him, he’s great, fast and have a good punches, I’m confident that he will remain undefeated here.

What’s the current odds for this match?

There is something that has me very intrigued, how could they determine that he is already completely healthy? In this fight they must accept some kind of proof that he is in full normal health, right? I don't know to what extent they have a certain tolerance to put up with everything that has to do with this type of problem.
Currently, it should be taken into account that this business is driven by a lot of money, that this can make a difference, only that there are some little events that seem to be far above the real sport.

There's no need for him to prove that he is already healthy, the fact that he accepted this fight, means he believes in himself that he can beat Tagoe. We know that his popularity is at stake here, if he loses his fight, he won't have a bright future ahead in boxing.

In my opinion, we still don't know if he has recovered 100% mentally. Although he has accepted this fight, but the boxer they get? relatively unknown to us, maybe is just a get busy fight and a cherry pick for Ryan to look great again in his comeback. But who knows what is the state of his mind in this fight. Besides there is also this ring rust, but elite boxers can just totally shake the effect early and then fight like he has been his situation again. Anyhow, hopefully Ryan is good to go mentally.

Obviously, it's a cherry-pick.. why would Ryan Garcia choose an unknown fighter when he is even challenging champions? He even challenged Manny Pacquiao when the latter was still active. Ryan Garcia will consider this fight as a preparation for a serious fight, so it's understandable that the odds are not attractive betting on him.

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Quote from: Finestream on April 08, 2022, 03:00:09 AM

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Quote from: goaldigger on April 01, 2022, 04:09:56 PM

Being great in boxing can bring you a lot of fans so technically he’s a superstar and talented, because of his winning matches it attract more followers for him. Its sad to see someone suffering from a mental illness but its really good that we can see Garcia again to have a fight. I still expect the same thing from him, he’s great, fast and have a good punches, I’m confident that he will remain undefeated here.

What’s the current odds for this match?

There is something that has me very intrigued, how could they determine that he is already completely healthy? In this fight they must accept some kind of proof that he is in full normal health, right? I don't know to what extent they have a certain tolerance to put up with everything that has to do with this type of problem.
Currently, it should be taken into account that this business is driven by a lot of money, that this can make a difference, only that there are some little events that seem to be far above the real sport.

There's no need for him to prove that he is already healthy, the fact that he accepted this fight, means he believes in himself that he can beat Tagoe. We know that his popularity is at stake here, if he loses his fight, he won't have a bright future ahead in boxing.

In my opinion, we still don't know if he has recovered 100% mentally. Although he has accepted this fight, but the boxer they get? relatively unknown to us, maybe is just a get busy fight and a cherry pick for Ryan to look great again in his comeback. But who knows what is the state of his mind in this fight. Besides there is also this ring rust, but elite boxers can just totally shake the effect early and then fight like he has been his situation again. Anyhow, hopefully Ryan is good to go mentally.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 08, 2022, 01:41:03 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on April 01, 2022, 04:09:56 PM

Being great in boxing can bring you a lot of fans so technically he’s a superstar and talented, because of his winning matches it attract more followers for him. Its sad to see someone suffering from a mental illness but its really good that we can see Garcia again to have a fight. I still expect the same thing from him, he’s great, fast and have a good punches, I’m confident that he will remain undefeated here.

What’s the current odds for this match?

There is something that has me very intrigued, how could they determine that he is already completely healthy? In this fight they must accept some kind of proof that he is in full normal health, right? I don't know to what extent they have a certain tolerance to put up with everything that has to do with this type of problem.
Currently, it should be taken into account that this business is driven by a lot of money, that this can make a difference, only that there are some little events that seem to be far above the real sport.

There's no need for him to prove that he is already healthy, the fact that he accepted this fight, means he believes in himself that he can beat Tagoe. We know that his popularity is at stake here, if he loses his fight, he won't have a bright future ahead in boxing.

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Quote from: goaldigger on April 01, 2022, 04:09:56 PM

Being great in boxing can bring you a lot of fans so technically he’s a superstar and talented, because of his winning matches it attract more followers for him. Its sad to see someone suffering from a mental illness but its really good that we can see Garcia again to have a fight. I still expect the same thing from him, he’s great, fast and have a good punches, I’m confident that he will remain undefeated here.

What’s the current odds for this match?

There is something that has me very intrigued, how could they determine that he is already completely healthy? In this fight they must accept some kind of proof that he is in full normal health, right? I don't know to what extent they have a certain tolerance to put up with everything that has to do with this type of problem.
Currently, it should be taken into account that this business is driven by a lot of money, that this can make a difference, only that there are some little events that seem to be far above the real sport.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 06, 2022, 09:39:36 PM

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^^ Knock out artist though, doesn't look for an early knock out, it has to come and they don't want to force it otherwise they might get hit by one hail mary punch that will change the complexion of the fight.

So Ryan might be looking for a knockout, but it it doesn't come as expected, he needs to just play it and let Tagoe make that mistake that he can take Ryan's punch and then boom, perfect left hook.

The way I look at Ryan Garcia's fights, he is not that methodical of a fighter. And I think that's very normal in young fighters, especially those who have yet to taste humiliation from an opponent inside the ring. Ryan Garcia does not know what it feels to lose. He is undefeated. So nothing will probably change in his fighting ways. And he is that kind of fighter who is very confident and just fights because he knows he is better than the person in front of him. A KO is not planned or forced. It simply happens.

The closest we have seen Ryan almost losing a fight is against Campbell, he was put to canvass but he rose up immediately and then knock out Campbell.

Maybe if Ryan will be in the same predicament again, we might see him coming back and put a good show and knock out Tagoe for good. He is with a new trainer, so maybe we will see some resiliency in him, but the knock out is still possible in this fight because we are talking about a fighter who has a deadly left hook to boot.

I can still vividly remember that. I was surprised when Ryan Garcia fell to the canvas. It was a strong hook. But I was more surprised that when he got up, instead of running away defending himself for a barrage of follow up blows to end him, he stood his ground. Now I am confused as to what Campbell should have done, whether going out all in or staying composed and be patient despite hurting Garcia. While the advice is normally to keep one's patience and don't dive right into ending the opponent, I think the reason why Garcia was able to recover and ended Campbell instead was that Campbell failed to capitalize on it and tried to end Garcia.

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As per Ryan Garcia, he is now working with a jab, he admitted that he hasn't used it in the past. But if he can developed this one, like his mentor and manager, Oscar Dela Hoya, it will be a different version of Garcia.

Just imagine this, he is tall and have the length advantage and with that jab, no one can get inside of him so that will be a very dangerous and difficult fighter to beat. So let's see if he is going to take advantage of his jab in this fight.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on April 07, 2022, 10:28:47 AM

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The match is near it looks like based on the odds from gambling site Ryan Garcia has an advantage to the match I see that he easily defeat other fighters that is much older than him and it is a surprise how young he is and he still managed to make a name for himself. I would go with Ryan Garcia with this but it will be a tough match for a fighter that has a lot of experience from him.

That experience is nothing compared to Ryan Garcia's power only 2 days to go the poll is not who will win but what round Ryan will knock out Tagoe, Tagoe tried to be impressive in their face-off trying to provoke Ryan but comes fight night we'll see if he is brave enough to provoke Ryan, looking forward to watching this fight,

Tagoe's only chance to be impressive is on the faceoff and he really did a great job on that. Grin

Ryan Garcia looks so firm, he is well conditioned by just looking at his form, I'm sure he will have an impressive win against Tagoe, but on the other hand, Tagoe would also get a chance to make an upset win.

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just to see if Ryan still has the power he's known for.

I'm sure you'll see that power.

Tagoe can really hold his own, although I somehow doubt he won't fare well against someone like Ryan Garcia. So far, Tagoe has merely a single defeat under his belt. If he can keep that ferocity going, then as they say, sky is the limit. With any luck and a few well placed punches, he might actually win this fight. Just because odds are in Garcia's side of the ring does not mean we won't get surprised.

Garcia has the better odds no doubt.

Tagoe's skills will be tested here on this fight by Ryan Garcia because from Tagoe's experiences, he didn't had any opponent near Garcia's level and we will see if he can really deflect those heavy punches that the latter will give and of course we will see if he have a good chin.

Looking at Ryan Garcia on their recent face-off, he looks like in the good shape and doesn't have any problems at all. Maybe he is really back and he will take his name higher again in the industry as their goal for now is to have a fight with Kambosos Jr. so I don't doubt that Ryan Garcia will fail on this fight against Tagoe.

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The match is near it looks like based on the odds from gambling site Ryan Garcia has an advantage to the match I see that he easily defeat other fighters that is much older than him and it is a surprise how young he is and he still managed to make a name for himself. I would go with Ryan Garcia with this but it will be a tough match for a fighter that has a lot of experience from him.

That experience is nothing compared to Ryan Garcia's power only 2 days to go the poll is not who will win but what round Ryan will knock out Tagoe, Tagoe tried to be impressive in their face-off trying to provoke Ryan but comes fight night we'll see if he is brave enough to provoke Ryan, looking forward to watching this fight,

Tagoe's only chance to be impressive is on the faceoff and he really did a great job on that. Grin

Ryan Garcia looks so firm, he is well conditioned by just looking at his form, I'm sure he will have an impressive win against Tagoe, but on the other hand, Tagoe would also get a chance to make an upset win.

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just to see if Ryan still has the power he's known for.

I'm sure you'll see that power.

Tagoe can really hold his own, although I somehow doubt he won't fare well against someone like Ryan Garcia. So far, Tagoe has merely a single defeat under his belt. If he can keep that ferocity going, then as they say, sky is the limit. With any luck and a few well placed punches, he might actually win this fight. Just because odds are in Garcia's side of the ring does not mean we won't get surprised.

Garcia has the better odds no doubt.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on April 07, 2022, 07:48:16 AM

The match is near it looks like based on the odds from gambling site Ryan Garcia has an advantage to the match I see that he easily defeat other fighters that is much older than him and it is a surprise how young he is and he still managed to make a name for himself. I would go with Ryan Garcia with this but it will be a tough match for a fighter that has a lot of experience from him.

That experience is nothing compared to Ryan Garcia's power only 2 days to go the poll is not who will win but what round Ryan will knock out Tagoe, Tagoe tried to be impressive in their face-off trying to provoke Ryan but comes fight night we'll see if he is brave enough to provoke Ryan, looking forward to watching this fight,

Tagoe's only chance to be impressive is on the faceoff and he really did a great job on that. Grin

Ryan Garcia looks so firm, he is well conditioned by just looking at his form, I'm sure he will have an impressive win against Tagoe, but on the other hand, Tagoe would also get a chance to make an upset win.

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just to see if Ryan still has the power he's known for.

I'm sure you'll see that power.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on April 07, 2022, 07:48:16 AM

The match is near it looks like based on the odds from gambling site Ryan Garcia has an advantage to the match I see that he easily defeat other fighters that is much older than him and it is a surprise how young he is and he still managed to make a name for himself. I would go with Ryan Garcia with this but it will be a tough match for a fighter that has a lot of experience from him.

That experience is nothing compared to Ryan Garcia's power only 2 days to go the poll is not who will win but what round Ryan will knock out Tagoe, Tagoe tried to be impressive in their face-off trying to provoke Ryan but comes fight night we'll see if he is brave enough to provoke Ryan, looking forward to watching this fight, just to see if Ryan still has the power he's known for.

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The match is near it looks like based on the odds from gambling site Ryan Garcia has an advantage to the match I see that he easily defeat other fighters that is much older than him and it is a surprise how young he is and he still managed to make a name for himself. I would go with Ryan Garcia with this but it will be a tough match for a fighter that has a lot of experience from him.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 06, 2022, 11:47:51 PM

It's 2 days more before the fight will happen, I'm surprised the odds for Tagoe is increase from 8.40x to 9.60x while Garcia still 1.05x. Seems more and more people were bet for Garcia only, perhaps it might reduced to 1.04x. I'm still waiting for the weight in, hope both of them didn't missed the weight.

This is going to be another exciting fight, and not a one sided fight. Garcia had a long rest, had a surgery, and mental health treatment. However, the skills is always there and that explains why he's the heavy favourite here.
While Tagoe is also an elite fighter, but Garcia obviously has all the advantage. Size, reach, agility, and power.
Though an upset is always inevitable, but only with a small chance.

I'll probably look at the other odds once everything is already available. For now, it's still the moneyline odds that are out in the market, not so attractive if you are a Ryan Garcia bettor. I'm sure a day before the actual fight, we will be able to see the complete odds.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 06, 2022, 11:47:51 PM

It's 2 days more before the fight will happen, I'm surprised the odds for Tagoe is increase from 8.40x to 9.60x while Garcia still 1.05x. Seems more and more people were bet for Garcia only, perhaps it might reduced to 1.04x. I'm still waiting for the weight in, hope both of them didn't missed the weight.

This is going to be another exciting fight, and not a one sided fight. Garcia had a long rest, had a surgery, and mental health treatment. However, the skills is always there and that explains why he's the heavy favourite here.
While Tagoe is also an elite fighter, but Garcia obviously has all the advantage. Size, reach, agility, and power.
Though an upset is always inevitable, but only with a small chance.

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Tagoe is 8.6, better odds than sportsbet.

That's a trap, I wouldn't take that 8.6 against Ryan Garcia because we know how capable he is especially against a fighter that has not fought big fights in the US. I'm not saying Tagoe has no chance, but if we are talking of a chance, that should be a slim chance.

Yeah, it could be a trap for us, I know it's very attractive and might be tempting to some because of the huge odds but for sure, you have one foot already on the losing end, very slim change for him to pull an upset against Ryan. We know that Garcia is coming from a long layoff, but it's hard to see him losing against a relatively unknown fighter who hasn't fought anyone at Ryan's level.

You can play around, maybe enjoy a bit by risking a little amount on that, but it's always up to you. A trap that everyone knows Garcia has a higher chance of winning, but greediness on the return will make them lose, I hope they'll not go all in with that odds.

It's better to be smart than greedy, Cheesy

. So perhaps it's not a good idea to play around, even if you bet a small amount on Tagoe to win, still that is money lost already.

Anyhow, for sure there could be gamblers willing to make that risk on Tagoe to pull an upset even if the chances are very slim to none based on the current sport bookies odds.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 06, 2022, 11:47:51 PM

It's 2 days more before the fight will happen, I'm surprised the odds for Tagoe is increase from 8.40x to 9.60x while Garcia still 1.05x. Seems more and more people were bet for Garcia only, perhaps it might reduced to 1.04x. I'm still waiting for the weight in, hope both of them didn't missed the weight.

Quote from: aioc on April 06, 2022, 11:08:12 PM

Campbell was not known to have a good knockout power it's just Ryan has weakness on his chin, but that punch is not enough to Garcia in trouble and I don't see Tagoe winning this fight

What I disappointed is Campbell wasn't more aggressive when Garcia was knocked down. Garcia will feel intimidated and scared, but since there's no move... he can recover his mental and back on the track.

Yeah, odds for a ML is not good, unfortunately, I check my favorite bookies and so far it's only ML that is available. Looking for more betting options obviously, maybe an early knock out for Garcia. Well you can't blame Campbell, maybe he still thinks that Garcia is dangerous even if he is down. And that's what actually happen, as Garcia recovered and then won. So he has been tested already and so far he did good and shows that he can recuperate very fast.

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It's 2 days more before the fight will happen, I'm surprised the odds for Tagoe is increase from 8.40x to 9.60x while Garcia still 1.05x. Seems more and more people were bet for Garcia only, perhaps it might reduced to 1.04x. I'm still waiting for the weight in, hope both of them didn't missed the weight.

Quote from: aioc on April 06, 2022, 11:08:12 PM

Campbell was not known to have a good knockout power it's just Ryan has weakness on his chin, but that punch is not enough to Garcia in trouble and I don't see Tagoe winning this fight

What I disappointed is Campbell wasn't more aggressive when Garcia was knocked down. Garcia will feel intimidated and scared, but since there's no move... he can recover his mental and back on the track.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 06, 2022, 09:39:36 PM

The closest we have seen Ryan almost losing a fight is against Campbell, he was put to canvass but he rose up immediately and then knock out Campbell.

Maybe if Ryan will be in the same predicament again, we might see him coming back and put a good show and knock out Tagoe for good. He is with a new trainer, so maybe we will see some resiliency in him, but the knock out is still possible in this fight because we are talking about a fighter who has a deadly left hook to boot.

A guy like Ryan who has a big knockout punch can get things over anytime, sure Campbell was doing good but Campbell was not known to have a good knockout power it's just Ryan has weakness on his chin, but that punch is not enough to Garcia in trouble and I don't see Tagoe winning this fight, in their face-off he keeps on provoking Garcia and this will soon get him in trouble comes fight night, he thought he can bully Ryan who is battle-tested.

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