[Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Javier Fortuna WBC interim lightweight Title

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 18, 2021, 04:17:20 PM

Quote from: Cling18 on April 18, 2021, 09:43:22 AM

Ryan Garcia is quite new to this field but he has huge potential. He only needs more matches to prove his skills and this fight against Fortuna is a good opportunity for him to build a good status in the boxing field. This fight will surely be a good match and it's honestly unpredictable.

Ryan Garcia started his professional fight since 2016, I don't call it new.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/765995

He maybe young but had many experience already, so I don't doubt him if he would want to go with a tougher match, maybe after this.

He has a good amateur background boxing is not new to Ryan, many thought things are ok on Ryan Garcia, he is living a great life, he is very popular with over 3 million Instagram fans he is making a lot of money, and enjoy his popularity, but behind this, an inner demon is lurking, I hope he can deal this in a fastest possible way and he will continue what he does best, inside and outside the ring.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 24, 2021, 05:35:11 PM

In a twist of faith,

Ryan Garcia Pulls Out Of Javier Fortuna Fight, Citing “Health, Wellbeing”

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“I know this news may be disappointing to some of my fans but I am announcing today that I am withdrawing from my July 9th fight,” Garcia wrote on his verified Instagram channel that reaches 8.6 million followers. “At this time it is important to manage my health and wellbeing. I have decided to take some time off to focus on becoming a stronger version of myself. I hope to be back soon and am looking forward to stepping back into the ring when I am my healthiest self. I want to Thank God, my family, my doctors and my supporters.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-pulls-out-javier-fortuna-fight-citing-health-wellbeing--157149

Ok, so the fight is definitely on hold. I can only wish Ryan Garcia to be able to fight this depression and anxiety and hope that can we can see him in the ring again, regardless if it is against Javier Fortuna or not.

We must respect his decision, glad that he ask for a break maybe it's making a toil on his young age and career, if he did this later he might lose a lot, the anxiety comes from having to prove himself to much from the eyes of the fans, he should slow down on social media and take time to be with himself and family a personal psychologist can help him overcome this inner demons.

We should also give credit to Javier Fortuna and his team for agreeing to the pull out of Ryan Garcia.

For sure Javier may have started or least already laid out some plans for him to where and how to train on this fight. For Ryan, yes for sure everyone is disappointment to hear the cancellation, but we should respect his decision and I think it is the right now. This mental issues doesn't choose whether we are a successful boxer, or just average joe. Once we felt something is wrong, we should seek professional help.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 24, 2021, 05:35:11 PM

In a twist of faith,

Ryan Garcia Pulls Out Of Javier Fortuna Fight, Citing “Health, Wellbeing”

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“I know this news may be disappointing to some of my fans but I am announcing today that I am withdrawing from my July 9th fight,” Garcia wrote on his verified Instagram channel that reaches 8.6 million followers. “At this time it is important to manage my health and wellbeing. I have decided to take some time off to focus on becoming a stronger version of myself. I hope to be back soon and am looking forward to stepping back into the ring when I am my healthiest self. I want to Thank God, my family, my doctors and my supporters.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-pulls-out-javier-fortuna-fight-citing-health-wellbeing--157149

Ok, so the fight is definitely on hold. I can only wish Ryan Garcia to be able to fight this depression and anxiety and hope that can we can see him in the ring again, regardless if it is against Javier Fortuna or not.

We must respect his decision, glad that he ask for a break maybe it's making a toil on his young age and career, if he did this later he might lose a lot, the anxiety comes from having to prove himself to much from the eyes of the fans, he should slow down on social media and take time to be with himself and family a personal psychologist can help him overcome this inner demons.

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Quote from: smyslov on April 24, 2021, 09:23:37 PM

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And I would say that probably in the young life of Garcia, he doesn't know how to deal with this big pressures in his life.

Success comes to early in his life and the pressure is just mounting he really needs to take a break and needs a professional help to help him go through this important phase in his life, Garcia can take this he needs a personal coach that will make him more realistic in his goal, imagine at a very young age he has a lot of goals some of them are hard to attain.

Yeah, this could be the main reason why we are all surprise to see a young and successful Garcia having this kind of mental issues. I guess this is the perks of being famous and then you can't cope with your successes that you will anxious all the time and as if someone is trying to control your life.

Wish him the best though, and hope that we will see him back fighting again.

So we don't know if the promoters are going to find a replacement so that Fortuna can still continue and fight this July.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 24, 2021, 05:35:11 PM

In a twist of faith,

Ryan Garcia Pulls Out Of Javier Fortuna Fight, Citing “Health, Wellbeing”

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“I know this news may be disappointing to some of my fans but I am announcing today that I am withdrawing from my July 9th fight,” Garcia wrote on his verified Instagram channel that reaches 8.6 million followers. “At this time it is important to manage my health and wellbeing. I have decided to take some time off to focus on becoming a stronger version of myself. I hope to be back soon and am looking forward to stepping back into the ring when I am my healthiest self. I want to Thank God, my family, my doctors and my supporters.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-pulls-out-javier-fortuna-fight-citing-health-wellbeing--157149

Ok, so the fight is definitely on hold. I can only wish Ryan Garcia to be able to fight this depression and anxiety and hope that can we can see him in the ring again, regardless if it is against Javier Fortuna or not.

Damn, this COVID-19 situation has taken a toll on him. But the good news is that he realizes that he has the problem and have seek help before it's too late. As a fan of boxing, i wish Garcia will get well very soon and come back strong and become a champion.

With this cancellation of the fight, i will going to lock this thread in a few hours.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 24, 2021, 08:43:07 PM

And I would say that probably in the young life of Garcia, he doesn't know how to deal with this big pressures in his life.

Success comes to early in his life and the pressure is just mounting he really needs to take a break and needs a professional help to help him go through this important phase in his life, Garcia can take this he needs a personal coach that will make him more realistic in his goal, imagine at a very young age he has a lot of goals some of them are hard to attain.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 24, 2021, 08:43:07 PM

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 24, 2021, 07:05:59 PM

Oh my, I didn't expect that Ryan Garcia has some inner demons that he is fighting for.

So now it's finally revealing why Garcia has this kind of attitude, I mean he is so boastful and arrogant and maybe this is one way of letting out his emotions. And if he has no other outlet to get out what he feels, anxiety sets-in. But I'm sure with all the people behind him right now looking for his physical and mental health, he will pull through.

He did the right thing, anxiety and inner demon is something you have to deal with first, it's stopping many people from achieving their goal glad that he admitted that he has these things in his mind, now the healing process can begin, it's a long process but he can take it and once he got back in the ring again with a stable mind, he can accomplish a lot of things.

Yes, at least Ryan even at his young age, admitted it in public that he has problems and that is the first step for him to recover, admit that there is an issue and then he and his supporting staff will have to work out a process to help Ryan recover and heal from all the anxieties that he is feeling inside and around of him. And I would say that probably in the young life of Garcia, he doesn't know how to deal with this big pressures in his life.

We really don't know what a person is going thru in his life. We thought everything is okay with him, as he is one of the popular boxers of his generation. But it is good that he acknowledged early that he has personal issues to resolve first before fighting again. This may save his life as well as his boxing career. Good job for addressing it early. He is still young and so he has a long way journey in this life.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 24, 2021, 07:05:59 PM

Oh my, I didn't expect that Ryan Garcia has some inner demons that he is fighting for.

So now it's finally revealing why Garcia has this kind of attitude, I mean he is so boastful and arrogant and maybe this is one way of letting out his emotions. And if he has no other outlet to get out what he feels, anxiety sets-in. But I'm sure with all the people behind him right now looking for his physical and mental health, he will pull through.

He did the right thing, anxiety and inner demon is something you have to deal with first, it's stopping many people from achieving their goal glad that he admitted that he has these things in his mind, now the healing process can begin, it's a long process but he can take it and once he got back in the ring again with a stable mind, he can accomplish a lot of things.

Yes, at least Ryan even at his young age, admitted it in public that he has problems and that is the first step for him to recover, admit that there is an issue and then he and his supporting staff will have to work out a process to help Ryan recover and heal from all the anxieties that he is feeling inside and around of him. And I would say that probably in the young life of Garcia, he doesn't know how to deal with this big pressures in his life.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 24, 2021, 07:05:59 PM

Oh my, I didn't expect that Ryan Garcia has some inner demons that he is fighting for.

So now it's finally revealing why Garcia has this kind of attitude, I mean he is so boastful and arrogant and maybe this is one way of letting out his emotions. And if he has no other outlet to get out what he feels, anxiety sets-in. But I'm sure with all the people behind him right now looking for his physical and mental health, he will pull through.

He did the right thing, anxiety and inner demon is something you have to deal with first, it's stopping many people from achieving their goal glad that he admitted that he has these things in his mind, now the healing process can begin, it's a long process but he can take it and once he got back in the ring again with a stable mind, he can accomplish a lot of things.

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Oh my, I didn't expect that Ryan Garcia has some inner demons that he is fighting for.

So now it's finally revealing why Garcia has this kind of attitude, I mean he is so boastful and arrogant and maybe this is one way of letting out his emotions. And if he has no other outlet to get out what he feels, anxiety sets-in. But I'm sure with all the people behind him right now looking for his physical and mental health, he will pull through.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 24, 2021, 05:35:11 PM

In a twist of faith,

Ryan Garcia Pulls Out Of Javier Fortuna Fight, Citing “Health, Wellbeing”

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“I know this news may be disappointing to some of my fans but I am announcing today that I am withdrawing from my July 9th fight,” Garcia wrote on his verified Instagram channel that reaches 8.6 million followers. “At this time it is important to manage my health and wellbeing. I have decided to take some time off to focus on becoming a stronger version of myself. I hope to be back soon and am looking forward to stepping back into the ring when I am my healthiest self. I want to Thank God, my family, my doctors and my supporters.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-pulls-out-javier-fortuna-fight-citing-health-wellbeing--157149

Ok, so the fight is definitely on hold. I can only wish Ryan Garcia to be able to fight this depression and anxiety and hope that can we can see him in the ring again, regardless if it is against Javier Fortuna or not.

I think he is taking too much on what he can take, he wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao, he wants to beat Davis and Haney, and wants to retire at age 26 and take on MMA, he is not taking it easy so the anxiety and depression sets in, he has a lot of huge plan and very eager to get it all in the fastest possible way, and when realizing that things are not that easy, that's when anxiety sets in.

He has a great career, he just needs guidance and takes it easy and takes things as it comes, he has what it takes to become one of the greatest.

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In a twist of faith,

Ryan Garcia Pulls Out Of Javier Fortuna Fight, Citing “Health, Wellbeing”

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“I know this news may be disappointing to some of my fans but I am announcing today that I am withdrawing from my July 9th fight,” Garcia wrote on his verified Instagram channel that reaches 8.6 million followers. “At this time it is important to manage my health and wellbeing. I have decided to take some time off to focus on becoming a stronger version of myself. I hope to be back soon and am looking forward to stepping back into the ring when I am my healthiest self. I want to Thank God, my family, my doctors and my supporters.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-pulls-out-javier-fortuna-fight-citing-health-wellbeing--157149

Ok, so the fight is definitely on hold. I can only wish Ryan Garcia to be able to fight this depression and anxiety and hope that can we can see him in the ring again, regardless if it is against Javier Fortuna or not.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 18, 2021, 04:17:20 PM

Quote from: Cling18 on April 18, 2021, 09:43:22 AM

Ryan Garcia is quite new to this field but he has huge potential. He only needs more matches to prove his skills and this fight against Fortuna is a good opportunity for him to build a good status in the boxing field. This fight will surely be a good match and it's honestly unpredictable.

Ryan Garcia started his professional fight since 2016, I don't call it new.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/765995

He maybe young but had many experience already, so I don't doubt him if he would want to go with a tougher match, maybe after this.

He also has a extensive amateur background, so his life really evolves around boxing that's why you will see how animated this kid are in the ring that most of the time we think that he is arrogant and boastful and very proved of his accomplishments. But I would say that it is natural because he live and breathes through boxing. So it is not unpredictable, Ryan Garcia will be the favorite to win this fight.

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Quote from: Cling18 on April 18, 2021, 09:43:22 AM

Ryan Garcia is quite new to this field but he has huge potential. He only needs more matches to prove his skills and this fight against Fortuna is a good opportunity for him to build a good status in the boxing field. This fight will surely be a good match and it's honestly unpredictable.

Ryan Garcia started his professional fight since 2016, I don't call it new.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/765995

He maybe young but had many experience already, so I don't doubt him if he would want to go with a tougher match, maybe after this.

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Ryan Garcia is quite new to this field but he has huge potential. He only needs more matches to prove his skills and this fight against Fortuna is a good opportunity for him to build a good status in the boxing field. This fight will surely be a good match and it's honestly unpredictable.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 18, 2021, 08:24:51 AM

It's a given fact, Garcia will be the favourite.

It's just a question on what round will he going to ko Fortuna. Javier's chin is not that durable, it has been broken, and with the way Garcia is throwing his favorite left hook, Javier's chin is going to crack under pressure here.

Fortuna is a much better opponent than Luke Campbell, Fortuna can punch and he is a strong fighter too, it will just go out on who can hit first, remember Garcia was knockdown by a boxer who has no knock out punch, we can consider this fight a real test for Garcia if he is ready to for big opponents like Haney and Davis, he will eventually have to fight these two fighters if he wants to establish himself as one of the best boxers of this generation.

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I am waiting on this fight to release in the betting site so that I will be able to bet on Ryan Garcia or what they called King Ryan of the ring. King Ryan will be the crowd choice for sure in which he is really so popular although Javier Fortuna is also popular but if it will be based on the record then the vote of the people will be to King Ryan and for me also I think he will be the one to win in this fight. Still waiting for this fight to be release in the betting sites.

Are you going to bet on ML for King Ryan? because for sure it won't be that attractive once sports betting sites release the initial odds. So I would advise you to wait for more betting odds instead of rushing on your bet, just saying.

Other betting odds such as per round would be good for Ryan, I'm expecting Ryan to be 1.1x-1.3x favourite early when the lines open.

yeah, am guessing sportsbooks will give such range of odds that you wont bother placing your bet on because it is not worth to place with. the per round odds maybe more attractive for bettors.
once these bookies released their odds, we will know what are their sentiments towards this fight. but more then likely, garcia will be the heavy favourite here.

It's a given fact, Garcia will be the favourite.

It's just a question on what round will he going to ko Fortuna. Javier's chin is not that durable, it has been broken, and with the way Garcia is throwing his favorite left hook, Javier's chin is going to crack under pressure here.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 17, 2021, 03:52:18 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on April 16, 2021, 08:24:28 PM

Quote from: pinggoki on April 16, 2021, 07:52:45 PM

I am waiting on this fight to release in the betting site so that I will be able to bet on Ryan Garcia or what they called King Ryan of the ring. King Ryan will be the crowd choice for sure in which he is really so popular although Javier Fortuna is also popular but if it will be based on the record then the vote of the people will be to King Ryan and for me also I think he will be the one to win in this fight. Still waiting for this fight to be release in the betting sites.

Are you going to bet on ML for King Ryan? because for sure it won't be that attractive once sports betting sites release the initial odds. So I would advise you to wait for more betting odds instead of rushing on your bet, just saying.

Other betting odds such as per round would be good for Ryan, I'm expecting Ryan to be 1.1x-1.3x favourite early when the lines open.

yeah, am guessing sportsbooks will give such range of odds that you wont bother placing your bet on because it is not worth to place with. the per round odds maybe more attractive for bettors.
once these bookies released their odds, we will know what are their sentiments towards this fight. but more then likely, garcia will be the heavy favourite here.

That's right, as this is a highly anticipated fight, I'm sure most of our favourite sports bookies are going to cover it and will released the odds much earlier so that we can all put our bet ahead of the fight. Garcia will be the odds favourite no doubt about that, and so ML is not that worth because of the low returns. But for more entertaining and attractive odds, I also like the "per round" betting, only it's very difficult to get it right, but if you are lucky enough you can get it and win big.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 16, 2021, 08:24:28 PM

Quote from: pinggoki on April 16, 2021, 07:52:45 PM

I am waiting on this fight to release in the betting site so that I will be able to bet on Ryan Garcia or what they called King Ryan of the ring. King Ryan will be the crowd choice for sure in which he is really so popular although Javier Fortuna is also popular but if it will be based on the record then the vote of the people will be to King Ryan and for me also I think he will be the one to win in this fight. Still waiting for this fight to be release in the betting sites.

Are you going to bet on ML for King Ryan? because for sure it won't be that attractive once sports betting sites release the initial odds. So I would advise you to wait for more betting odds instead of rushing on your bet, just saying.

Other betting odds such as per round would be good for Ryan, I'm expecting Ryan to be 1.1x-1.3x favourite early when the lines open.

yeah, am guessing sportsbooks will give such range of odds that you wont bother placing your bet on because it is not worth to place with. the per round odds maybe more attractive for bettors.
once these bookies released their odds, we will know what are their sentiments towards this fight. but more then likely, garcia will be the heavy favourite here.

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Quote from: pinggoki on April 16, 2021, 07:52:45 PM

I am waiting on this fight to release in the betting site so that I will be able to bet on Ryan Garcia or what they called King Ryan of the ring. King Ryan will be the crowd choice for sure in which he is really so popular although Javier Fortuna is also popular but if it will be based on the record then the vote of the people will be to King Ryan and for me also I think he will be the one to win in this fight. Still waiting for this fight to be release in the betting sites.

Are you going to bet on ML for King Ryan? because for sure it won't be that attractive once sports betting sites release the initial odds. So I would advise you to wait for more betting odds instead of rushing on your bet, just saying.

Other betting odds such as per round would be good for Ryan, I'm expecting Ryan to be 1.1x-1.3x favourite early when the lines open.

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