[Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Javier Fortuna WBC interim lightweight Title - page 3.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on April 15, 2021, 01:48:35 PM

This should be a good opponent for Garcia. Fortuna has a lot of experience against good fighters. What's annoying, though, is how these young lightweight fighters talk so much on social media and none of them are fighting against each other. There is a lot of potential in this division but they're all fighting fringe contenders, faded former champions, and in Gervonta Davis' case leaving the weight class entirely to fight a secondary champion at 140.

These promoters want to get the exposure and proper build-up before these superstars fight each other in the ring, it's all about money and conflict of interest why we are not getting good fights from these so-called superstars, they are depriving the boxing world of excitement, to be called a champion you have to fight champions and tough fighters instead they are fighting second rate boxers.

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This should be a good opponent for Garcia. Fortuna has a lot of experience against good fighters. What's annoying, though, is how these young lightweight fighters talk so much on social media and none of them are fighting against each other. There is a lot of potential in this division but they're all fighting fringe contenders, faded former champions, and in Gervonta Davis' case leaving the weight class entirely to fight a secondary champion at 140.

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To honest and dont offend those Garcia supporters but I don’t really like Ryan Garcia, he’s too young but his ego is too much for his age. He’s been spending his time training and making vlogs but every time I watch, I cringe. You can always feel how arrogant this guy is.

On the other hand, I’m not that familiar with Javier Fortuna. Never watched even a single of his match. But he looks capable of winning.

But technically, Ryan Garcia’s fighting style is actually good. So I would place my side with him for now. It’s just that, him showing off is attracting bad luck to his career. But we will see.

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For those who wanted to see their amateur fight in 2014.

You can see Ryan raw talent but he already knows how to throw that left hook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFIBbU8ERGA

So this fight will need to happen in pro ranks. But nevertheless, Ryan will have the advantage and the tool because he is too long and definitely the aggressive because he has the power to knock out every opponent. So a Garcia win against Fortuna and then Haney against Linares will set up this huge fight.

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While I enjoy Garcia styling on his previous bouts, I want him to at least feel like his record is at stake. Most boxers go cocky and disrespectful when they face no strong opponents along the way. Garcia is good, though he's slowly getting that 'attitude' that most people seem to notice, too. I'm hoping that Fortuna gives this young man a beating, or at least a tough time for Garcia to not lose his drive for greatness. He's already good, and I don't want him slacking just because no opponents are good enough for him.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 15, 2021, 08:48:11 AM

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Quote from: smyslov on April 14, 2021, 08:13:17 PM

Ryan is just an overhype boxer at this point in time.

He's not an overhype boxer. A clean record, at least not all against to underdog. And at 22, the world's third-best active lightweight, something that can't be achieved easily by that age. And you will say he's an overhype?

Maybe being arrogant or boastful and I will agree to that but if he can live his boastful words, then people have no choice but to keep annoyed with him for long.

Currently, I would have to agree that he is overhype until he really face a good challenge, those champions. But I just check the ranking, Fortuna is rank #7, while Garcia is #6.

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?role=proboxer&offset=0&sex=M&division=Lightweight

Anyway, Ryan Garcia is young, good future ahead and most probably if he wins against Javier he will have to fight Devin Haney.

Did he challenge Haney?

There's no doubt that Garcia would win this fight, he is the champion and he has shown how durable he is is his last fight, he went down and then back up to win the game through KO. This is a real champion that everyone should consider a threat.

Yes, he been calling Haney, past forward to 3:33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PppBShnsNM

And then Haney claiming that Garcia is the easiest fight amongst the champion right now. So there's some sort of blood bad between the two.

And they have been rivals since their amateur days, Ryan Garcia scoring 2 wins.

If we compared their record.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/741718

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/765995

IMO, Ryan Garcia has more impressive fights. 21 wins and 18 is won by KO, while Haney got 25 wins with only 15 KO, and Devin Haney is playing safe in his fight, I don't like it, I like Ryan Garcia just willing to take risk just to entertain the crowd.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 15, 2021, 05:24:51 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 15, 2021, 05:03:19 AM

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Quote from: smyslov on April 14, 2021, 08:13:17 PM

Ryan is just an overhype boxer at this point in time.

He's not an overhype boxer. A clean record, at least not all against to underdog. And at 22, the world's third-best active lightweight, something that can't be achieved easily by that age. And you will say he's an overhype?

Maybe being arrogant or boastful and I will agree to that but if he can live his boastful words, then people have no choice but to keep annoyed with him for long.

Currently, I would have to agree that he is overhype until he really face a good challenge, those champions. But I just check the ranking, Fortuna is rank #7, while Garcia is #6.

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?role=proboxer&offset=0&sex=M&division=Lightweight

Anyway, Ryan Garcia is young, good future ahead and most probably if he wins against Javier he will have to fight Devin Haney.

Did he challenge Haney?

There's no doubt that Garcia would win this fight, he is the champion and he has shown how durable he is is his last fight, he went down and then back up to win the game through KO. This is a real champion that everyone should consider a threat.

Yes, he been calling Haney, past forward to 3:33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PppBShnsNM

And then Haney claiming that Garcia is the easiest fight amongst the champion right now. So there's some sort of blood bad between the two.

And they have been rivals since their amateur days, Ryan Garcia scoring 2 wins.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 15, 2021, 05:03:19 AM

Anyway, Ryan Garcia is young, good future ahead and most probably if he wins against Javier he will have to fight Devin Haney.

A fight with Haney is something that must happen, there was a time that Haney's father talked to Hopkins of The Golden Boy promotion and he wants his son Haney to make a contract for a Garcia fight but Hopkins insist that is not yet the time

This is the video of the conversation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFzmTd4m3rY

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 15, 2021, 05:03:19 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on April 15, 2021, 12:07:00 AM

Quote from: smyslov on April 14, 2021, 08:13:17 PM

Ryan is just an overhype boxer at this point in time.

He's not an overhype boxer. A clean record, at least not all against to underdog. And at 22, the world's third-best active lightweight, something that can't be achieved easily by that age. And you will say he's an overhype?

Maybe being arrogant or boastful and I will agree to that but if he can live his boastful words, then people have no choice but to keep annoyed with him for long.

Currently, I would have to agree that he is overhype until he really face a good challenge, those champions. But I just check the ranking, Fortuna is rank #7, while Garcia is #6.

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?role=proboxer&offset=0&sex=M&division=Lightweight

Anyway, Ryan Garcia is young, good future ahead and most probably if he wins against Javier he will have to fight Devin Haney.

Did he challenge Haney?

There's no doubt that Garcia would win this fight, he is the champion and he has shown how durable he is is his last fight, he went down and then back up to win the game through KO. This is a real champion that everyone should consider a threat.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 15, 2021, 12:07:00 AM

Quote from: smyslov on April 14, 2021, 08:13:17 PM

Ryan is just an overhype boxer at this point in time.

He's not an overhype boxer. A clean record, at least not all against to underdog. And at 22, the world's third-best active lightweight, something that can't be achieved easily by that age. And you will say he's an overhype?

He is a champion so we can't call him hype anymore, maybe when he was rising in ranks and trying to call other champions out because he wanted the belt. But since he is accomplished it already. No hype, but we will have to see where he goes.

Quote from: chaser15 on April 15, 2021, 12:07:00 AM

Maybe being arrogant or boastful and I will agree to that but if he can live his boastful words, then people have no choice but to keep annoyed with him for long.

Maybe he is arrogant because he can back it up. Just like Floyd, he can talk smack to every opponent he faces because no one can take his 0.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 15, 2021, 12:07:00 AM

Quote from: smyslov on April 14, 2021, 08:13:17 PM

Ryan is just an overhype boxer at this point in time.

He's not an overhype boxer. A clean record, at least not all against to underdog. And at 22, the world's third-best active lightweight, something that can't be achieved easily by that age. And you will say he's an overhype?

Maybe being arrogant or boastful and I will agree to that but if he can live his boastful words, then people have no choice but to keep annoyed with him for long.

Currently, I would have to agree that he is overhype until he really face a good challenge, those champions. But I just check the ranking, Fortuna is rank #7, while Garcia is #6.

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?role=proboxer&offset=0&sex=M&division=Lightweight

Anyway, Ryan Garcia is young, good future ahead and most probably if he wins against Javier he will have to fight Devin Haney.

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Quote from: yazher on April 15, 2021, 01:00:21 AM

This is good for him instead of fighting an opponent that is not in his era. The fight will be a few months after today but this will not change the fact that Ryan Garcia will be the one who is popular here. Lightweight is something you cannot blink your eyes when you watch their fight because this is usually where those fighters in the Welterweight have shown how good they've been. Just like the Fight of Manny Pacquiao and Diaz

Ryan Garcia wanted to follow the steps of Manny Pacquiao, he idolizes him and even want to fight him in the ring. I believe Ryan Garcia has to improve more, especially on his defense because he already has a tremendous power but one punch KO is possible, something Pacquiao have learn in his life as a boxer in his fight against Marquez.

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This is good for him instead of fighting an opponent that is not in his era. The fight will be a few months after today but this will not change the fact that Ryan Garcia will be the one who is popular here. Lightweight is something you cannot blink your eyes when you watch their fight because this is usually where those fighters in the Welterweight have shown how good they've been. Just like the Fight of Manny Pacquiao and Diaz

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Quote from: smyslov on April 14, 2021, 08:13:17 PM

Ryan is just an overhype boxer at this point in time.

He's not an overhype boxer. A clean record, at least not all against to underdog. And at 22, the world's third-best active lightweight, something that can't be achieved easily by that age. And you will say he's an overhype?

Maybe being arrogant or boastful and I will agree to that but if he can live his boastful words, then people have no choice but to keep annoyed with him for long.

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Out of 21 fights, 18 won by knockout. Ryan Garcia looks very young but he made it without loss beating boxers with a good rate of knockouts the last with Campbell though shows how soft his chin he can be.

The fight will still be in July, seem too early to learn the odds but I would assume Garcia will be favored. no poll yet but looking forward to Haney vs Garcia?

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 14, 2021, 07:53:37 PM

Obviously, he will be the slight favourite going in this fight, the hype is still there with Ryan and he is so ambitious that he is looking for the next big target like Haney and Davis.

It is always interesting to see this young kid fight. He looks very hungry. He's a monster in the making. I don't think Ryan Garcia is only a slight favorite in this fight. The odds have yet to be released but I bet it would be much lower than 1.50 for him. This is Ryan Garcia's fight through and through. Fortuna is a challenge for him, of course, but he's easily a surmountable hurdle for Garcia's rise to stardom.

When I saw Garcia knocked down for the first time in his career, I thought he'd be terrified, become less aggressive, feel small and vulnerable, and somehow give way for his opponent's further attacks. But I was wrong. He knocked out the opponent. This kid is a warrior.

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Quote from: smyslov on April 14, 2021, 08:13:17 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on April 14, 2021, 07:53:37 PM

Obviously, he will be the slight favourite going in this fight, the hype is still there with Ryan and he is so ambitious that he is looking for the next big target like Haney and Davis.

He will always a favorite until he met fighters like Haney or Gervonta Davis, his chin is a suspect if he fought fighters that are intimidating like Davis and Haney, Fortuna is a good challenge for him, I want him to win so he can fight Haney so he can have a real challenge, he's been challenging patsy and weak fighters, it's time for him to face big fighters, Ryan is just an overhype boxer at this point in time.

Yep, that's correct, he will always be the favorite until he steps up the plate against Davis. For Haney though, I think Ryan will be the slight favorite because Haney doesn't have the power. We saw that he went down in his last fight, however, he has a good recuperation power, because he got up and beat the hell out of Luke Campbell.

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 14, 2021, 07:53:37 PM

Obviously, he will be the slight favourite going in this fight, the hype is still there with Ryan and he is so ambitious that he is looking for the next big target like Haney and Davis.

He will always a favorite until he met fighters like Haney or Gervonta Davis, his chin is a suspect if he fought fighters that are intimidating like Davis and Haney, Fortuna is a good challenge for him, I want him to win so he can fight Haney so he can have a real challenge, he's been challenging patsy and weak fighters, it's time for him to face big fighters, Ryan is just an overhype boxer at this point in time.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 14, 2021, 07:24:37 PM

Probably the best and the biggest challenge of Garcia's young career, in his last fight he suffered a knockdown from a fighter who is not known as a heavy hitter, let's see how he can sustain or carry this fight against a fighter who has a heavy hand in Javier Fortuna, I have Garcia as the slight favorite to win the match but if he will not take this fight seriously and he will not train hard, he could be in trouble, Fortuna, once he gets you will swarm you with a lot of punches, I expect Garcia's body punch to play a role in this matchup.

He is managed by the best trainer right now, Eddie Reynoso which train Canelo as well. So I don't that they will let this kid play around and not train hard because he thinks that he can just go there and smash Fortuna. Javier has a decent power and if Garcia will be caught again, I'm sure he will go down.

Obviously, he will be the slight favourite going in this fight, the hype is still there with Ryan and he is so ambitious that he is looking for the next big target like Haney and Davis.

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Probably the best and the biggest challenge of Garcia's young career, in his last fight he suffered a knockdown from a fighter who is not known as a heavy hitter, let's see how he can sustain or carry this fight against a fighter who has a heavy hand in Javier Fortuna, I have Garcia as the slight favorite to win the match but if he will not take this fight seriously and he will not train hard, he could be in trouble, Fortuna, once he gets you will swarm you with a lot of punches, I expect Garcia's body punch to play a role in this matchup.

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