Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC &amp; WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 19. (Read 7043 times)

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 01, 2023, 10:53:18 PM

Naoya Inoue is no doubt already compatible with the 122 division and honestly seems looked overqualified even before entering officially that division. If let's say he loses to Stephen Fulton, it's just that he can't take the champion here but against anyone else in that division, Inoue can surely topped most of those. But I'm sure if he really loses here for real, the fight is a close one and a rematch is probably the next in line.

If Inoue loses this match, then we will all be proven wrong because we are expecting an easy victory for Inoue to claim the championship. I mean no disrespect to Fulton, but when you compare his record to Inoue's, there is a significant difference. So, even though Inoue is the challenger in this fight, many still anticipate his victory.

I wouldn't expect a rematch because I truly believe that we will not witness a closely contested fight. Most likely, the fight will either end early or go the full 12 rounds if Fulton opts to avoid taking risks and decides to focus on surviving rather than engaging in exchanges of punches.

So if there's a rematch, most likely the champ has succeeded in defending his belt.

Difference is on the firepower or simply with the KO% which is really that we could see that Fulton is lagging behind on this area which it might be the basis of Inoue on why he had really directly tending to fight with Fulton because he's really that confident when it comes to power and believe that he could take down without any problems and this is why he directly target out the belt holder of such division.Its not really that disrespecting Fulton but we know that when it comes to this matter on which if a certain boxer is really that having the feeling and assumption that he can beat up a certain boxer basing up on the stats or video footage about his recent matches then they would really be diving into that opportunity.

Rematch? Possible! But if Fulton would see the difference in power and technicality then i do highly doubt that he would really be asking for one.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 01, 2023, 10:53:18 PM

That statement from Stephen Fulton is because the fight against Inoue doesn't happen yet. If he wins this match, the winds might change and probably delay his moved-up quest as he already knows he can defeat the monster from Japan, therefore he might consider accepting a rematch if Inoue's camp will request it.

"Legacy + More Money" in the table, that's what waiting for Fulton if he accepts the rematch.

Defeating Inoue twice will give him a big recognition than pursuing Figueroa in 126 which he already defeated in the 122.

Anyways, let's not talk about the rematch for now.

I definitely agree with you on that. However, the outcome of the fight will depend on the manner of winning. If Fulton gets lucky and wins in a close fight but realizes that he can't truly defeat Inoue in reality, then I suppose he will accept that win and move on. In order to see a rematch, Fulton needs to have a convincing win and be extremely confident that he can defeat the monster twice.

You have a point though. Generally, you are saying that if ever Stephen Fulton wins the match, the chance of him being in a disastrous condition is possible and that might change his mind to accept the rematch deal as maybe, he will think that he can't keep up with Naoya Inoue on the rematch.

That will now depend on Fulton being a man and his willingness to accept the risks of suffering hard blows once again facing Inoue in a rematch. He might receive backlash for not accepting a rematch although he can easily ignore it by saying he already defeated Inoue and no need for a rematch.

But that won't change the fact that if Fulton wants to create another legacy and more money for himself on the table if let's say he wins this match, a rematch is a good option to consider instead of moving up to 126. Beating Inoue two times in a row is something that we can't imagine and if Fulton is able to do that, that's a big achievement.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 31, 2023, 01:24:16 PM

There is no rematch clause in this fight as per Fulton already. He admitted that this is just one fight and then see how it goes. He really wanted to go up in weight already and fight Brandon at 126 lbs it's that maybe his camp stop him from moving up because there is one fight that they need to settle and that is the Inoue fight.

That statement from Stephen Fulton is because the fight against Inoue doesn't happen yet. If he wins this match, the winds might change and probably delay his moved-up quest as he already knows he can defeat the monster from Japan, therefore he might consider accepting a rematch if Inoue's camp will request it.

"Legacy + More Money" in the table, that's what waiting for Fulton if he accepts the rematch.

Defeating Inoue twice will give him a big recognition than pursuing Figueroa in 126 which he already defeated in the 122.

Anyways, let's not talk about the rematch for now.

I definitely agree with you on that. However, the outcome of the fight will depend on the manner of winning. If Fulton gets lucky and wins in a close fight but realizes that he can't truly defeat Inoue in reality, then I suppose he will accept that win and move on. In order to see a rematch, Fulton needs to have a convincing win and be extremely confident that he can defeat the monster twice.

Fulton doesn't have power at 122 lbs, and he has been rocked several times in his career at this weight class, although you have to admire that he was able to hold up and finished the fight, let's say against the volume punching of Figueroa and even win it, even others are dubious about the scores and think that it was a gimme to Fulton.

So in this cause, the only manner of winning that Fulton has is through the judges scorecard, of course, maybe he will get lucky and win by a knockout but that is a long shot. I don't think that there will be rematch, just saying. I think Inoue will win this fight.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 01, 2023, 10:53:18 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on May 31, 2023, 01:24:16 PM

There is no rematch clause in this fight as per Fulton already. He admitted that this is just one fight and then see how it goes. He really wanted to go up in weight already and fight Brandon at 126 lbs it's that maybe his camp stop him from moving up because there is one fight that they need to settle and that is the Inoue fight.

That statement from Stephen Fulton is because the fight against Inoue doesn't happen yet. If he wins this match, the winds might change and probably delay his moved-up quest as he already knows he can defeat the monster from Japan, therefore he might consider accepting a rematch if Inoue's camp will request it.

"Legacy + More Money" in the table, that's what waiting for Fulton if he accepts the rematch.

Defeating Inoue twice will give him a big recognition than pursuing Figueroa in 126 which he already defeated in the 122.

Anyways, let's not talk about the rematch for now.

I definitely agree with you on that. However, the outcome of the fight will depend on the manner of winning. If Fulton gets lucky and wins in a close fight but realizes that he can't truly defeat Inoue in reality, then I suppose he will accept that win and move on. In order to see a rematch, Fulton needs to have a convincing win and be extremely confident that he can defeat the monster twice.

Yes, that kind of technique has became more and more common these days and in-fact, we have just witnessed someone just recently using that defense again just to stay away from a rematch. I think you guys already know who I am referring to.

Anyway, that situation is very likely in-case Fulton sees that he just barely win the fight against Inoue and maybe next time he will not be that lucky as the monster of Japan is already known to evolve between each fight that he endured. I will not be surprised if he will move-on directly towards another chapter which is in the next division and leave Inoue with the vacated belts after scathing his career.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 31, 2023, 01:24:16 PM

There is no rematch clause in this fight as per Fulton already. He admitted that this is just one fight and then see how it goes. He really wanted to go up in weight already and fight Brandon at 126 lbs it's that maybe his camp stop him from moving up because there is one fight that they need to settle and that is the Inoue fight.

That statement from Stephen Fulton is because the fight against Inoue doesn't happen yet. If he wins this match, the winds might change and probably delay his moved-up quest as he already knows he can defeat the monster from Japan, therefore he might consider accepting a rematch if Inoue's camp will request it.

"Legacy + More Money" in the table, that's what waiting for Fulton if he accepts the rematch.

Defeating Inoue twice will give him a big recognition than pursuing Figueroa in 126 which he already defeated in the 122.

Anyways, let's not talk about the rematch for now.

I definitely agree with you on that. However, the outcome of the fight will depend on the manner of winning. If Fulton gets lucky and wins in a close fight but realizes that he can't truly defeat Inoue in reality, then I suppose he will accept that win and move on. In order to see a rematch, Fulton needs to have a convincing win and be extremely confident that he can defeat the monster twice.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 31, 2023, 01:24:16 PM

There is no rematch clause in this fight as per Fulton already. He admitted that this is just one fight and then see how it goes. He really wanted to go up in weight already and fight Brandon at 126 lbs it's that maybe his camp stop him from moving up because there is one fight that they need to settle and that is the Inoue fight.

That statement from Stephen Fulton is because the fight against Inoue doesn't happen yet. If he wins this match, the winds might change and probably delay his moved-up quest as he already knows he can defeat the monster from Japan, therefore he might consider accepting a rematch if Inoue's camp will request it.

"Legacy + More Money" in the table, that's what waiting for Fulton if he accepts the rematch.

Defeating Inoue twice will give him a big recognition than pursuing Figueroa in 126 which he already defeated in the 122.

Anyways, let's not talk about the rematch for now.

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Quote from: Jating on June 01, 2023, 05:01:00 PM

But do you think he will be comfortable fighting outside of his US? Of course not, I believed since that Inoue is the A-side here, he was forced to go and fight to Japan. But I believed if he upset him and Inoue's camp inside of a rematch, common sense will tell us that it should be in the US wherein there's a lot of money, instead of Japan.

Unless there is a rematch clause which says that both fight should be happening in Japan.

But Fulton is some of his interviews says there is no rematch clause.

All things are subject to change on which it would really be potentially that he might be saying that theres no rematch but those words or sentiments would be changed up basing up on the outcome of the said
fight. Speaking about places or venue about a certain fight then it would be not much of an issue whether it would be happened on US or would really be happening on Japan doesnt really matter at all.
Its true that there might be some personal preference of a certain fighter on where they do like for the fight to happen but its really that much needed to be that versatile when it comes to this.
Do i really believe that there might be some upset for this one? Possibly but there's a less chance for Fulton to do it but who knows?

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Quote from: Kasabus on June 01, 2023, 04:25:27 PM

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 31, 2023, 01:50:43 PM

Naoya Inoue is no doubt already compatible with the 122 division and honestly seems looked overqualified even before entering officially that division. If let's say he loses to Stephen Fulton, it's just that he can't take the champion here but against anyone else in that division, Inoue can surely topped most of those. But I'm sure if he really loses here for real, the fight is a close one and a rematch is probably the next in line.

If Inoue loses this match, then we will all be proven wrong because we are expecting an easy victory for Inoue to claim the championship. I mean no disrespect to Fulton, but when you compare his record to Inoue's, there is a significant difference. So, even though Inoue is the challenger in this fight, many still anticipate his victory.

I wouldn't expect a rematch because I truly believe that we will not witness a closely contested fight. Most likely, the fight will either end early or go the full 12 rounds if Fulton opts to avoid taking risks and decides to focus on surviving rather than engaging in exchanges of punches.

So if there's a rematch, most likely the champ has succeeded in defending his belt.

There is no rematch clause in this fight as per Fulton already. He admitted that this is just one fight and then see how it goes. He really wanted to go up in weight already and fight Brandon at 126 lbs it's that maybe his camp stop him from moving up because there is one fight that they need to settle and that is the Inoue fight.

So if Inoue losses, then he will remain in 122 lbs and maybe fight for the belt again.

And then Fulton will go on 126 lbs, relinquished his belt and then go for the champion Figueroa at 126 lbs. That will be the best scenario, in my opinion.

We still don't know, yes, what if he beat Inoue? then for sure there will be huge money for him in the table in the rematch and if he is going to be wise and intelligent, then he might have to do that, have a second fight, but this time it will be in his own terms, like in the US so that he won't go back to Japan.

Fulton is still very young, so the future is bring for him. It's just a matter of making the right decision in his career. And hopefully his advisor will really take care of him, on his career path, whether to move up to 126 lbs.

Given that Steph Fulton wins their fight, and a rematch will happen, it's not up to Fulton if he chooses to fight in the US soil rather than making it in Japan again because that decision falls under the promoter's and organizer's hand because they are the ones who are capitalizing for this fight whereas the boxers are already have the guaranteed money. So, it will be their call where they think the fight would be more promising, but in-terms of purse cut and other perks, Fulton got that advantage as he is now in the A-side.

But do you think he will be comfortable fighting outside of his US? Of course not, I believed since that Inoue is the A-side here, he was forced to go and fight to Japan. But I believed if he upset him and Inoue's camp inside of a rematch, common sense will tell us that it should be in the US wherein there's a lot of money, instead of Japan.

Unless there is a rematch clause which says that both fight should be happening in Japan.

But Fulton is some of his interviews says there is no rematch clause.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 31, 2023, 01:24:16 PM

Naoya Inoue is no doubt already compatible with the 122 division and honestly seems looked overqualified even before entering officially that division. If let's say he loses to Stephen Fulton, it's just that he can't take the champion here but against anyone else in that division, Inoue can surely topped most of those. But I'm sure if he really loses here for real, the fight is a close one and a rematch is probably the next in line.

If Inoue loses this match, then we will all be proven wrong because we are expecting an easy victory for Inoue to claim the championship. I mean no disrespect to Fulton, but when you compare his record to Inoue's, there is a significant difference. So, even though Inoue is the challenger in this fight, many still anticipate his victory.

I wouldn't expect a rematch because I truly believe that we will not witness a closely contested fight. Most likely, the fight will either end early or go the full 12 rounds if Fulton opts to avoid taking risks and decides to focus on surviving rather than engaging in exchanges of punches.

So if there's a rematch, most likely the champ has succeeded in defending his belt.

There is no rematch clause in this fight as per Fulton already. He admitted that this is just one fight and then see how it goes. He really wanted to go up in weight already and fight Brandon at 126 lbs it's that maybe his camp stop him from moving up because there is one fight that they need to settle and that is the Inoue fight.

So if Inoue losses, then he will remain in 122 lbs and maybe fight for the belt again.

And then Fulton will go on 126 lbs, relinquished his belt and then go for the champion Figueroa at 126 lbs. That will be the best scenario, in my opinion.

We still don't know, yes, what if he beat Inoue? then for sure there will be huge money for him in the table in the rematch and if he is going to be wise and intelligent, then he might have to do that, have a second fight, but this time it will be in his own terms, like in the US so that he won't go back to Japan.

Fulton is still very young, so the future is bring for him. It's just a matter of making the right decision in his career. And hopefully his advisor will really take care of him, on his career path, whether to move up to 126 lbs.

Given that Steph Fulton wins their fight, and a rematch will happen, it's not up to Fulton if he chooses to fight in the US soil rather than making it in Japan again because that decision falls under the promoter's and organizer's hand because they are the ones who are capitalizing for this fight whereas the boxers are already have the guaranteed money. So, it will be their call where they think the fight would be more promising, but in-terms of purse cut and other perks, Fulton got that advantage as he is now in the A-side.

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