[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 15.

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Quote from: Botnake on June 19, 2023, 05:25:24 AM

There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.

That's a high possibility that Inoue would stay in this weight category as he has yet to prove that he can bring his power to a higher division. If he wins (Inoue) then a unification fight with Tapales is the biggest for this division to happen thus far and a fight with Casimero will only materialize if the latter will keep on winning and become a mandatory challenger as calling out Inoue without a belt or something might not interest the Japanese Monster to fight him as he has nothing to gain in fighting Quadro Alas.

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It's definitely the latter and not the questionable win because he totally deserved that win, it's just that his opponent, Ryo Akaho, faked everything and that the back of his head is hurting after receiving a punch from Casimero. Fortunately, IIRC, Casimero and his team did reviewed it together with the rest of KBM and found out that Akaho was just a good actor and was afraid to take the defeat into his career. Gladly, all that is behind now and Casimero is steadily winning and upping his ranking.

Yeah, after that review the organization gives credit to Casimero and his camp.

With that good achievement in this new division, he's climbing a little and with more to come the chance of making his way
as a good contender for the belt, maybe good timing if Inoue will win against Fulton and decide to stay, though still depends
from how the camps will negotiate and how the deal will be closed.

There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 18, 2023, 03:54:18 PM

It's definitely the latter and not the questionable win because he totally deserved that win, it's just that his opponent, Ryo Akaho, faked everything and that the back of his head is hurting after receiving a punch from Casimero. Fortunately, IIRC, Casimero and his team did reviewed it together with the rest of KBM and found out that Akaho was just a good actor and was afraid to take the defeat into his career. Gladly, all that is behind now and Casimero is steadily winning and upping his ranking.

Yeah, after that review the organization gives credit to Casimero and his camp.

With that good achievement in this new division, he's climbing a little and with more to come the chance of making his way
as a good contender for the belt, maybe good timing if Inoue will win against Fulton and decide to stay, though still depends
from how the camps will negotiate and how the deal will be closed.

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The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.

So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.

You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug.

But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division.

For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure.

Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight.

But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him.

Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing.

Before Casimero's career took a downturn, he was already nearing his peak, and his success was more impressive than Tapales'. He had notable victories that contributed to his ongoing popularity, even though he is no longer a champion. Therefore, I believe we should trust him. As long as he maintains his patience and remains focused on winning his upcoming fights, there's a good chance he will have another opportunity to fight for a championship in the future.

And I think Casimero has learned his lessons from that huge mistake, and if I'm not mistaken, he has a whole different team now, taking care of him (he has a Japanese manager), and most importantly the people behind him, trainers, nutritionist and others. And we have seen that he has won 2 fights already, although the first win was questionable or at least very controversial.

But we should wait though, we can't compare his path with his fellow Filipino Tapales. Marlon is enjoying more successes now as he is a 2 belt champion. Nevertheless, we know that Casimero is still very much on the hunt for a belt in the super bantam.

It's definitely the latter and not the questionable win because he totally deserved that win, it's just that his opponent, Ryo Akaho, faked everything and that the back of his head is hurting after receiving a punch from Casimero. Fortunately, IIRC, Casimero and his team did reviewed it together with the rest of KBM and found out that Akaho was just a good actor and was afraid to take the defeat into his career. Gladly, all that is behind now and Casimero is steadily winning and upping his ranking.

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The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.

So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.

You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug.

But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division.

For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure.

Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight.

But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him.

Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing.

Before Casimero's career took a downturn, he was already nearing his peak, and his success was more impressive than Tapales'. He had notable victories that contributed to his ongoing popularity, even though he is no longer a champion. Therefore, I believe we should trust him. As long as he maintains his patience and remains focused on winning his upcoming fights, there's a good chance he will have another opportunity to fight for a championship in the future.

And I think Casimero has learned his lessons from that huge mistake, and if I'm not mistaken, he has a whole different team now, taking care of him (he has a Japanese manager), and most importantly the people behind him, trainers, nutritionist and others. And we have seen that he has won 2 fights already, although the first win was questionable or at least very controversial.

But we should wait though, we can't compare his path with his fellow Filipino Tapales. Marlon is enjoying more successes now as he is a 2 belt champion. Nevertheless, we know that Casimero is still very much on the hunt for a belt in the super bantam.

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Quote from: TravelMug on June 14, 2023, 02:02:18 AM

The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.

So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.

You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug.

But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division.

For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure.

Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight.

But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him.

Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing.

Before Casimero's career took a downturn, he was already nearing his peak, and his success was more impressive than Tapales'. He had notable victories that contributed to his ongoing popularity, even though he is no longer a champion. Therefore, I believe we should trust him. As long as he maintains his patience and remains focused on winning his upcoming fights, there's a good chance he will have another opportunity to fight for a championship in the future.

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Quote from: TravelMug on June 14, 2023, 02:02:18 AM

The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.

So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.

You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug.

But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division.

For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure.

Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight.

But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him.

Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing.

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It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

Personally, for me, it doesn't make sense.

Why Naoya Inoue or Top Rank promotions should adjust for that possibility just for the reason that Inoue should prove himself against a tough challenger? Regardless if a challenger is considered tough, then make their way up to be eligible for the title match.

In the first place, Casimero's camp is the one to blame for why the chance of fighting against Inoue didn't happen. Therefore, he should be the one to make adjustments, not Inoue or Top Rank making that move. I'm with Quadro Alas, of course, against Inoue, if they will fight. However, if only Casimero's camp did the right thing, he should be the one fighting Inoue in the Undisputed Title Match at the 118 division and not Paul Butler.

Would Inoue still be interested in fighting Casimero in an undisputed bout if the previous scheduling issue had not occurred? Inoue and Casimero were initially scheduled to fight, but it was unfortunately canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, even after the pandemic subsided, Inoue did not make the fight happen. This situation can be quite frustrating, and it's understandable for fans to speculate whether Inoue is unwilling to risk his record by facing Casimero.

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

The fight didn't happen because Casimero has problem making the weight. He is the WBO champion that time, and for sure if Naoya Inoue wanted to get all the belts then he has to fight John Riel that time.

Casimero will just have to defend his belt against Butler to seal a fight with Inoue. Unfortunately, he can't make the weight so Butler became the champion and then he was knockout by Inoue to get the last belt. If only Casimero doesn't have problems with his weight that time then maybe we already have seen them fight in the ring already.

Yes, at that time, the odds are really not in favor of Casimero because his weight is really dragging him down and making him inactive in the industry because of the same problem and just like what happened when he got stripped before he fought Butler, that might happen too if his fight with Inoue have been restored. But that just cannot be as after Covid subsided, another variant hit them again and made the government of Japan to close their borders to all foreign people.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 16, 2023, 05:56:57 AM

It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

Personally, for me, it doesn't make sense.

Why Naoya Inoue or Top Rank promotions should adjust for that possibility just for the reason that Inoue should prove himself against a tough challenger? Regardless if a challenger is considered tough, then make their way up to be eligible for the title match.

In the first place, Casimero's camp is the one to blame for why the chance of fighting against Inoue didn't happen. Therefore, he should be the one to make adjustments, not Inoue or Top Rank making that move. I'm with Quadro Alas, of course, against Inoue, if they will fight. However, if only Casimero's camp did the right thing, he should be the one fighting Inoue in the Undisputed Title Match at the 118 division and not Paul Butler.

Would Inoue still be interested in fighting Casimero in an undisputed bout if the previous scheduling issue had not occurred? Inoue and Casimero were initially scheduled to fight, but it was unfortunately canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, even after the pandemic subsided, Inoue did not make the fight happen. This situation can be quite frustrating, and it's understandable for fans to speculate whether Inoue is unwilling to risk his record by facing Casimero.

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

The fight didn't happen because Casimero has problem making the weight. He is the WBO champion that time, and for sure if Naoya Inoue wanted to get all the belts then he has to fight John Riel that time.

Casimero will just have to defend his belt against Butler to seal a fight with Inoue. Unfortunately, he can't make the weight so Butler became the champion and then he was knockout by Inoue to get the last belt. If only Casimero doesn't have problems with his weight that time then maybe we already have seen them fight in the ring already.

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Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

Easy money for Bob Arum, lesser risk with high rewards that at stake, Donaire is more popular than Casimero. We all know that,
the international fans covered a widespread for making huge amounts of money.

But, looking also at that point, if Inoue is really hunger in challenging rising stars like him, it's better to take Casimero, both on their primes
and the fame and achievements of whoever will win value a lot more since fans do love fighters without a fear.

Though we never know what fate will be, maybe chances of seeing them just like Mayweather and Pacquiao will happen along the way.

Your explanation is on point. Donaire is indeed more popular compared to Casimero, and he is no longer in his prime, which is why Top Rank was able to easily arrange the fight. Defeating a popular fighter like Donaire would also make Inoue more popular, ultimately benefiting the promoter and increasing Inoue's value in the world of boxing.

However, I am optimistic that the time will come when they will still face each other, with Casimero as the challenger and Inoue as the defending champion. Hopefully, this will happen by next year, as it wouldn't be ideal to see a prime Inoue fighting Casimero, who is no longer in his prime.

You are right that mate cause we all know that if a fighter defeating a super star fighter like for example in our defating donaire which is we are all know that donaire is very popular so inoue claim his new supporters. and this time inoue is one of the popular boxer nowadays. And about casimero and inoue its better if next year their fight will come and let see who is the the real strong.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 17, 2023, 02:08:18 AM

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

Easy money for Bob Arum, lesser risk with high rewards that at stake, Donaire is more popular than Casimero. We all know that,
the international fans covered a widespread for making huge amounts of money.

But, looking also at that point, if Inoue is really hunger in challenging rising stars like him, it's better to take Casimero, both on their primes
and the fame and achievements of whoever will win value a lot more since fans do love fighters without a fear.

Though we never know what fate will be, maybe chances of seeing them just like Mayweather and Pacquiao will happen along the way.

Your explanation is on point. Donaire is indeed more popular compared to Casimero, and he is no longer in his prime, which is why Top Rank was able to easily arrange the fight. Defeating a popular fighter like Donaire would also make Inoue more popular, ultimately benefiting the promoter and increasing Inoue's value in the world of boxing.

However, I am optimistic that the time will come when they will still face each other, with Casimero as the challenger and Inoue as the defending champion. Hopefully, this will happen by next year, as it wouldn't be ideal to see a prime Inoue fighting Casimero, who is no longer in his prime.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 17, 2023, 02:08:18 AM

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

Easy money for Bob Arum, lesser risk with high rewards that at stake, Donaire is more popular than Casimero. We all know that,
the international fans covered a widespread for making huge amounts of money.

But, looking also at that point, if Inoue is really hunger in challenging rising stars like him, it's better to take Casimero, both on their primes
and the fame and achievements of whoever will win value a lot more since fans do love fighters without a fear.

Though we never know what fate will be, maybe chances of seeing them just like Mayweather and Pacquiao will happen along the way.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 16, 2023, 05:56:57 AM

It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

Personally, for me, it doesn't make sense.

Why Naoya Inoue or Top Rank promotions should adjust for that possibility just for the reason that Inoue should prove himself against a tough challenger? Regardless if a challenger is considered tough, then make their way up to be eligible for the title match.

In the first place, Casimero's camp is the one to blame for why the chance of fighting against Inoue didn't happen. Therefore, he should be the one to make adjustments, not Inoue or Top Rank making that move. I'm with Quadro Alas, of course, against Inoue, if they will fight. However, if only Casimero's camp did the right thing, he should be the one fighting Inoue in the Undisputed Title Match at the 118 division and not Paul Butler.

Would Inoue still be interested in fighting Casimero in an undisputed bout if the previous scheduling issue had not occurred? Inoue and Casimero were initially scheduled to fight, but it was unfortunately canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, even after the pandemic subsided, Inoue did not make the fight happen. This situation can be quite frustrating, and it's understandable for fans to speculate whether Inoue is unwilling to risk his record by facing Casimero.

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 16, 2023, 05:56:57 AM

It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

Personally, for me, it doesn't make sense.

Why Naoya Inoue or Top Rank promotions should adjust for that possibility just for the reason that Inoue should prove himself against a tough challenger? Regardless if a challenger is considered tough, then make their way up to be eligible for the title match.

In the first place, Casimero's camp is the one to blame for why the chance of fighting against Inoue didn't happen. Therefore, he should be the one to make adjustments, not Inoue or Top Rank making that move. I'm with Quadro Alas, of course, against Inoue, if they will fight. However, if only Casimero's camp did the right thing, he should be the one fighting Inoue in the Undisputed Title Match at the 118 division and not Paul Butler.

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Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

That's what I thought too. As we all are hyped up between the Casimero and Inoue match up, but I just can't deny that Inoue had the advantage in terms of overall skills. I mean Inoue is fast, agile, and has a strong power. inoue is also an unpredictable fighter as he can throw a combination of punches that you'll never know whether he aims for the body or the head. This is gonna be a huge challenge for Casimero in the future, he's defensive skills will put into test against Inoue's relentless offensive fire power. I guess consulting with Donaire will be a huge help for Casimero. Donaire figured out how to take advantage of the opening when Inoue is throwing punches, however It was never enough because Inoue was too fast and also has a solid chin. If Casimero can pull up a perfect counter, he'd for sure going to put Inoue into sleep, but then again that's going to be a very hard thing to achieve.

Right, his hand speed and power very deadly combination, Mike Tyson even said that Inoue is better than Pacquiao (although it's debatable). Donaire has the perfect strategy when they had the rematch, but as we have seen, it seems the Inoue knows what Donaire wanted to do or what his plan his and adjusted on the fly and that power though, very hard to recover from that because once your leg is gone it will be over. So let's just wait for Casimero to make a run or at least be a rank boxer and maybe he can see a fight with Inoue in the future.

It is really debatable and I know that there are a lot of people who would gladly take that trouble just to argue who is better. Besides, we don't have to believe what Mike Tyson is saying because even if he is legend, he did not have the opportunity to battle both Inoue and Pacquiao because if he did and their time was the same, most probably we already know by now who is better.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 14, 2023, 07:02:16 AM

Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

That's what I thought too. As we all are hyped up between the Casimero and Inoue match up, but I just can't deny that Inoue had the advantage in terms of overall skills. I mean Inoue is fast, agile, and has a strong power. inoue is also an unpredictable fighter as he can throw a combination of punches that you'll never know whether he aims for the body or the head. This is gonna be a huge challenge for Casimero in the future, he's defensive skills will put into test against Inoue's relentless offensive fire power. I guess consulting with Donaire will be a huge help for Casimero. Donaire figured out how to take advantage of the opening when Inoue is throwing punches, however It was never enough because Inoue was too fast and also has a solid chin. If Casimero can pull up a perfect counter, he'd for sure going to put Inoue into sleep, but then again that's going to be a very hard thing to achieve.

Right, his hand speed and power very deadly combination, Mike Tyson even said that Inoue is better than Pacquiao (although it's debatable). Donaire has the perfect strategy when they had the rematch, but as we have seen, it seems the Inoue knows what Donaire wanted to do or what his plan his and adjusted on the fly and that power though, very hard to recover from that because once your leg is gone it will be over. So let's just wait for Casimero to make a run or at least be a rank boxer and maybe he can see a fight with Inoue in the future.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 14, 2023, 07:02:16 AM

Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

That's what I thought too. As we all are hyped up between the Casimero and Inoue match up, but I just can't deny that Inoue had the advantage in terms of overall skills. I mean Inoue is fast, agile, and has a strong power. inoue is also an unpredictable fighter as he can throw a combination of punches that you'll never know whether he aims for the body or the head. This is gonna be a huge challenge for Casimero in the future, he's defensive skills will put into test against Inoue's relentless offensive fire power. I guess consulting with Donaire will be a huge help for Casimero. Donaire figured out how to take advantage of the opening when Inoue is throwing punches, however It was never enough because Inoue was too fast and also has a solid chin. If Casimero can pull up a perfect counter, he'd for sure going to put Inoue into sleep, but then again that's going to be a very hard thing to achieve.

Casimero has been involved in many battles in the past, including a victory over Zolani Tete, who was faster, taller, and in his prime. Because of this, I have no doubt that Casimero has the potential to defeat Inoue as well. However, the opportunity to face Inoue has not been given to him, which can be quite frustrating. It remains a dream matchup for now. It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 14, 2023, 07:02:16 AM

Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

That's what I thought too. As we all are hyped up between the Casimero and Inoue match up, but I just can't deny that Inoue had the advantage in terms of overall skills. I mean Inoue is fast, agile, and has a strong power. inoue is also an unpredictable fighter as he can throw a combination of punches that you'll never know whether he aims for the body or the head. This is gonna be a huge challenge for Casimero in the future, he's defensive skills will put into test against Inoue's relentless offensive fire power. I guess consulting with Donaire will be a huge help for Casimero. Donaire figured out how to take advantage of the opening when Inoue is throwing punches, however It was never enough because Inoue was too fast and also has a solid chin. If Casimero can pull up a perfect counter, he'd for sure going to put Inoue into sleep, but then again that's going to be a very hard thing to achieve.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 14, 2023, 07:56:48 AM

Quote from: Jating on June 14, 2023, 07:31:09 AM

So still a very good fight for Inoue at super bantamweight and hopefully we can see this fight happening next year at least. And it might be good if Casimero will be the challenger, so that he will be extra motivated to pull an upset win.

As of now, his ranking is not yet considered to be a challenger to the champion, you can see the ranking here.

https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

It might take some time, but as long as Casimero continues to fight, he will eventually reach a level where he becomes the number one challenger. In the case of a mandatory fight, the champion would not be able to refuse it, as the organization could strip him of the belt.

Is that ranking already updated? Casimero won his last fight, so it's likely that his ranking has increased somewhat. However, since he fought an unknown boxer, the impact on his ranking may be minimal, and it's unlikely to propel him to the number one spot.

as of this ranking ; https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?division=Super%20Bantamweight&offset=0&sex=M

Casimero is currently ranked at number 2. Based on this information, it seems that this ranking is the most recent and up-to-date.

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Quote from: Jating on June 14, 2023, 07:31:09 AM

So still a very good fight for Inoue at super bantamweight and hopefully we can see this fight happening next year at least. And it might be good if Casimero will be the challenger, so that he will be extra motivated to pull an upset win.

As of now, his ranking is not yet considered to be a challenger to the champion, you can see the ranking here.

https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

It might take some time, but as long as Casimero continues to fight, he will eventually reach a level where he becomes the number one challenger. In the case of a mandatory fight, the champion would not be able to refuse it, as the organization could strip him of the belt.

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