[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 52.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 11, 2023, 07:24:22 AM

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

Trying out to accumulate more bets with that having a huge time frame or gap? This is the only thing that i do have in mind if we do speak about those betting lines are already that available.
We could obviously see up these things specially on known or popular boxers or simply with those huge main event or known ones which it would be understandable that it would be getting that so much attention.
So making those odds and bets to be available could neither be seen on 1-2 months before the fight which its not something new anymore.We've seen several fights on having
this kind of set-up.

if we will get the official date, for sure bookies will list it even crypto bookies as inoue is a known boxer. they maybe are waiting for the official announcement. for small events, usually a week or few days before the fight. but with inoue, it would be months before the fight. inoue will be the favourite here so maybe bet on other betting lines like if this fight will go the distance or not.

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Quote from: stadus on February 11, 2023, 05:06:57 PM

And there are even some fights that is already listed on the sports books even if the fight is still under discussion and is not yet official. Has everyone noticed that? When that happens, it makes me think that there's some inside news that only these bookies know because why would they publish it in a much early stage when the fight is still under discussion.

I second this. It can be mostly found in fiat sportsbooks I believed as I also encounters some before.

And guess what, some of those fights where there is no official announcement even have a date of the fight lol.

Not tried yet betting on those but just wondering if the bet will push through even if there's no made official announcement yet on that specific fight.

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Quote from: harizen on February 11, 2023, 03:21:57 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on February 11, 2023, 07:24:22 AM

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

And there are even some fights that is already listed on the sports books even if the fight is still under discussion and is not yet official. Has everyone noticed that? When that happens, it makes me think that there's some inside news that only these bookies know because why would they publish it in a much early stage when the fight is still under discussion.

Given that this fight is a championship fight for Inoue and a title defense for Fulton, we can somehow say that this is also a big event especially in Japan where Inoue will be chasing title again inside his own country. Maybe in the middle of next month, we will see some odds regarding this fight.

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Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Manny Pacquiao could have been a 10 division champion if he didn't skipped 2 division when he decided to go up in weight. Anyhow, I heard that Inoue is somehow tense about this upcoming fight. Since this is his first time fighting in the heavier Division and he is worried about his preparation since he doesn't know if his preparation is enough for the fight.

I guess that's somehow expected from Naoya Inoue and his team because even if we say that a few pound difference is somehow nothing and won't matter, we shouldn't forget that Fulton owns this division and is already used to the weight when fighting unlike Inoue where this is his first time in the weight class and is already facing the 2-belt world champion. But still, my vote and money goes for Inoue in this bout. It will be hard to defy him after witnessing his greatness in the previous division.

Exactly. I think that's a postulate when it comes to fighting a seasoned boxer in a particular weight division. The self-inflicted pressure of keeping up with the people's standards and most of all finding an edge against a fighter who is very confident and comfortable with his weight is going to be a problem. Inoue knows that much. But I believe he'd be able to give us a good fight, if not win the game for himself. Inoue seems to follow Pacquiao's trends, starting small and working his way up to higher weight divisions, but unless he wows me or proves to me that he has the same potential as the Pacman himself, I'm not going to get my hopes up looking for a new pound-for-pound king.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on February 09, 2023, 05:36:46 PM

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Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Manny Pacquiao could have been a 10 division champion if he didn't skipped 2 division when he decided to go up in weight. Anyhow, I heard that Inoue is somehow tense about this upcoming fight. Since this is his first time fighting in the heavier Division and he is worried about his preparation since he doesn't know if his preparation is enough for the fight.

I guess that's somehow expected from Naoya Inoue and his team because even if we say that a few pound difference is somehow nothing and won't matter, we shouldn't forget that Fulton owns this division and is already used to the weight when fighting unlike Inoue where this is his first time in the weight class and is already facing the 2-belt world champion. But still, my vote and money goes for Inoue in this bout. It will be hard to defy him after witnessing his greatness in the previous division.

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Quote from: harizen on February 11, 2023, 03:21:57 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on February 11, 2023, 07:24:22 AM

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

Trying out to accumulate more bets with that having a huge time frame or gap? This is the only thing that i do have in mind if we do speak about those betting lines are already that available.
We could obviously see up these things specially on known or popular boxers or simply with those huge main event or known ones which it would be understandable that it would be getting that so much attention.
So making those odds and bets to be available could neither be seen on 1-2 months before the fight which its not something new anymore.We've seen several fights on having
this kind of set-up.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 11, 2023, 07:24:22 AM

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

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Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Manny Pacquiao could have been a 10 division champion if he didn't skipped 2 division when he decided to go up in weight. Anyhow, I heard that Inoue is somehow tense about this upcoming fight. Since this is his first time fighting in the heavier Division and he is worried about his preparation since he doesn't know if his preparation is enough for the fight.

I think it's just normal for any boxer to move up and weight and not sure what their performance will be, and even how great Inoue is in the lower weight of 118 lbs and unifying is, still this is a new dimension for him.

Inoue though could go as high as 130 lbs, unlike Manny we really reaped everyone when he is climbing in weight as high as 147 lbs and if I'm not mistaken, fought at a super welterweight at a catch weight against Antonio Margarito.

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Yes and somehow that is already expected on this fight considering that Naoya Inoue has been ruled as the favorite on this fight despite the fact that he's just the challenger and the champion is the underdog. As the time goes by, this odds will likely change but not towards us, so the odds will become less and less profitable. But if you're that kind of bettor who like risky bets and believes that the champion can defend his belt successfully then this odds is for you.

Unfortunately, I think there's no crypto-sportsbook yet that will list this fight because there's no unofficial announcement yet including the date. There's May 30, there's June and there are other dates. I saw a fiat sportsbook listing this fight and it says May 30 but searching the web, there's no official date yet.

It's a good pick if others will have a chance to bet on Naoya Inoue Moneyline at the odds of 1.3 to 1.4. We might not see odds like that given on Inoue if he continue his reign and establishing more winnings while he is moving forward.

And it's too early to expect a listing in our favorite crypto sportsbook. This is a popular fight but it's on a lower class, so it's not popular fight compared to the fights in the higher division. Well, it's not really a problem though, we can wait, the most important now is that this fight will be official so we can only worry about the odds after.

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

Talking about the odds of Inoue, 1.40 is already a decent one, still an attractive odds, in fact I could go below that but will not be below 1.30.

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Yes and somehow that is already expected on this fight considering that Naoya Inoue has been ruled as the favorite on this fight despite the fact that he's just the challenger and the champion is the underdog. As the time goes by, this odds will likely change but not towards us, so the odds will become less and less profitable. But if you're that kind of bettor who like risky bets and believes that the champion can defend his belt successfully then this odds is for you.

Unfortunately, I think there's no crypto-sportsbook yet that will list this fight because there's no unofficial announcement yet including the date. There's May 30, there's June and there are other dates. I saw a fiat sportsbook listing this fight and it says May 30 but searching the web, there's no official date yet.

It's a good pick if others will have a chance to bet on Naoya Inoue Moneyline at the odds of 1.3 to 1.4. We might not see odds like that given on Inoue if he continue his reign and establishing more winnings while he is moving forward.

And it's too early to expect a listing in our favorite crypto sportsbook. This is a popular fight but it's on a lower class, so it's not popular fight compared to the fights in the higher division. Well, it's not really a problem though, we can wait, the most important now is that this fight will be official so we can only worry about the odds after.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 10, 2023, 05:20:34 PM

Yes and somehow that is already expected on this fight considering that Naoya Inoue has been ruled as the favorite on this fight despite the fact that he's just the challenger and the champion is the underdog. As the time goes by, this odds will likely change but not towards us, so the odds will become less and less profitable. But if you're that kind of bettor who like risky bets and believes that the champion can defend his belt successfully then this odds is for you.

Unfortunately, I think there's no crypto-sportsbook yet that will list this fight because there's no unofficial announcement yet including the date. There's May 30, there's June and there are other dates. I saw a fiat sportsbook listing this fight and it says May 30 but searching the web, there's no official date yet.

It's a good pick if others will have a chance to bet on Naoya Inoue Moneyline at the odds of 1.3 to 1.4. We might not see odds like that given on Inoue if he continue his reign and establishing more winnings while he is moving forward.

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Again, if you haven't seen Fulton fight, he doesn't have the same power as Inoue, he wasn't able to bring down Figueroa on his last fight. On the other hand, he could have taken a lot of damages during that fight. Yes he won, but the score is really close. And as I have said, he could have been soften by Figueroa and then Inoue just go for the kill and maybe knock him out, just saying.

Which makes Inoue different because there's no fighter that he has a close fight, well, the closest was Donaire because he survive the 12 rounds, but the result was still all in favor on Inoue since Inoue won via Unanimous decision. This might be a debut of Inoue but despite that, I'm sure he will not struggle and his confidence is still very high, he likes a real action because he got bored in his last fight where he won the undisputed champion.

There's no need to compare their records, it's very obvious, we already know who is the better fighter here. The thing is, even if Fulton is the champ, if he will be able to defend his title, people will react thinking it was an upset. That's how big their trust to Inoue since Inoue has been knocking down opponents, a monster with no fear, that's who he is.

Well if the odds favor Inoue (most likely), and then Fulton is the underdog then we can call it an upset if he wins because of that. Yes, I also see him not struggling, it's just 4 pounds of weight and he could easily make it without any struggle and could make him big and feeling powerful as well.

Yes, the record of Inoue says it all, so we can't really discount that, he is knocking everyone in the 118 lbs, including Donaire and against his last fight in Butler. So in terms it will be an upset technically even if Fulton is the champion and Inoue is the challenger.

At this moment they are already giving Inoue as a favorite, I do not doubt it, I am sure that in the boxing forums they do not have him as a top favorite and I do not rule him out, he is a boxer who has set a very good example and his victories have been quite legitimate , so I have no doubt, if we think of all the number of boxers who want to challenge Inoue, it is impressive, of course we have to wait for the results he can against Fulton, he is not a bad boxer, he is a very good boxer, and that He really wants to win and with many dreams, all this is categorical, I know that Inoue will achieve everything he has.

Inoue for me is a monster and I think that's something that everyone knows, I'm waiting for that fight, a good bet in favor of Inoue and he can win, yes!

Some friends who trained with me boxing say that this boxer is not going to lose any fight.

Naoya Inoue named Japan’s best boxer for record-breaking sixth time

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The Japanese Boxing Commission and the Sportswriters Club held their annual awards ceremony at the Tokyo Dome Hotel on Wednesday. The showpiece award, the 2022 Japanese Fighter of the Year, went to bantamweight champion and pound-for-pound star Naoya Inoue, who won the award for a fifth consecutive year and a record-breaking sixth time overall, surpassing Japanese greats Yoshio Shirai and Yoko Gushiken.

Inoue definitively stopped old rival Nonito Donaire in two rounds to claim the WBC bantamweight title and retain his Ring, IBF and WBA belts in June. “The Monster” then became the undisputed bantamweight champion by defeating WBO titlist Paul Butler in 11 rounds.

Source: https://www.ringtv.com/649399-naoya-inoue-named-japans-best-boxer-for-record-breaking-sixth-time/

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I agree with your statement, if you are comfortable that Inoue can beat Fulton that odd is not bad to take. It can add the enjoyment
while watching the fight.

Bet now or wait during the live event, some gamblers will take it now and add more if there's adjustment that will take when the
fight is already ongoing.

The fight will happen on the next 3 months, I would predict the odds for Inoue would be smaller around ~1.25x because the hype is really favor on Inoue's side. Not to mention shit might happen when the fight get closer and closer, there's a chance Fulton might be replaced with the other weak boxer.

I actually wonder why people are betting during early odds? in the end there's no benefit for the bettors since the odds will keep adjusted.

Because there's a very big chance that the odds will become smaller like for example, if you bet now, the odds is 1.20x and if you'll bet inside the 24-48 hours mark before the fight, then the odds might be 1.15x or even 1.15x and that's the reason why most of the gamblers are going for the early bet especially in this case that it's almost impossible that Inoue's odds will be favorable to the bettors.

Yes and this is why its better to bet earlier once there already bookies had opened their lines for gamblers to make out some bet and its true that majority would really be keeping on eye on the time that it would really be available and make out some bets right away which they would really be cherishing and utilizing the odds as early as possible which it would really be that a very common approach.
I dont have any doubts that Inoue would be the favorite and odds would really become even more lower as the fight date is approaching so better to take up the position
on the time that you do see that its already available.

Yes and somehow that is already expected on this fight considering that Naoya Inoue has been ruled as the favorite on this fight despite the fact that he's just the challenger and the champion is the underdog. As the time goes by, this odds will likely change but not towards us, so the odds will become less and less profitable. But if you're that kind of bettor who like risky bets and believes that the champion can defend his belt successfully then this odds is for you.

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I don't know, what's weird to me, is that Fulton is playing the race card here? or the article was put to be like that?

In any case, if he thinks he can beat the Monster to gain the respect from America then yeah, he needs to go to Japan and fight him. I like his mindset though, he thinks Inoue is small and so he can take him out. Also he mentioned that he has been in this kind of crowd, they are totally against him but he won (against Figueroa). Wherein the crowd was pro Mexican Brandon but nevertheless he did everything to win in the judges scorecard.

It seems that Fulton is underestimating Inoue but he will surely be needing enough time to prepare to face a monster. I hope he wouldn't be surprised with Inoue's punches as what Inoue did to his previous opponents. He should grab all the chances to prepare because Inoue is honestly hard to beat.
It will be a big hit if he will knock down Inoue but will also be a big challenge for him. Inoue has been consistent and dedicated and that is something that Fulton must be aware of.

Without doubt if Fulton could beat Inoue that would be a huge upset and will give Fulton a great deal of the credibility and the respect that he is looking for, however after reading the interview it seems to me that he is too fixated on the fans and who they support, fans like who they like, I am not from the Philippines and yet I never missed a fight of Pacquiao so his arguments ring hollow to me, if he wants to be a superstar then he needs to prove he is one and he has the perfect opportunity against Inoue to do so.

I agree, many boxing fans are expecting that Inoue can knockdown Fulton. IF Inoue lost against Fulton, Fulton will definitely get a huge respect from the crowds and the thought of Inoue's power will then be takes as limited to the bantamweight only.

Though I am still thinking that Inoue is still at disadvantage here since this is a new division for him and he hasn't tested the waters yet he is scheduled his first fight against a champion. I think it is too rush for Inoue's camp to fight a champion without testing the power of the super bantamweight boxers.

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I don't know, what's weird to me, is that Fulton is playing the race card here? or the article was put to be like that?

In any case, if he thinks he can beat the Monster to gain the respect from America then yeah, he needs to go to Japan and fight him. I like his mindset though, he thinks Inoue is small and so he can take him out. Also he mentioned that he has been in this kind of crowd, they are totally against him but he won (against Figueroa). Wherein the crowd was pro Mexican Brandon but nevertheless he did everything to win in the judges scorecard.

It seems that Fulton is underestimating Inoue but he will surely be needing enough time to prepare to face a monster. I hope he wouldn't be surprised with Inoue's punches as what Inoue did to his previous opponents. He should grab all the chances to prepare because Inoue is honestly hard to beat.
It will be a big hit if he will knock down Inoue but will also be a big challenge for him. Inoue has been consistent and dedicated and that is something that Fulton must be aware of.

Without doubt if Fulton could beat Inoue that would be a huge upset and will give Fulton a great deal of the credibility and the respect that he is looking for, however after reading the interview it seems to me that he is too fixated on the fans and who they support, fans like who they like, I am not from the Philippines and yet I never missed a fight of Pacquiao so his arguments ring hollow to me, if he wants to be a superstar then he needs to prove he is one and he has the perfect opportunity against Inoue to do so.

That will give him the respect that he wants if ever he will manage to beat the Monster, we all know that Inoue hot a huge amount of fans all over the world because of his showed greatness.

Same with your statement, if Fulton wants respect and recognition this will be a perfect timing for him.

Winning against the fans favorite will hype his name and will established his supremacy in this weight division.

He can try and have a bite of the monster's power punches but that's not easy to do and that means that the respect and recognition that he wanted won't come easy. He should earn those first and defeating Inoue will be the answer to his wishes.

Fulton asked for this fight too, right? Then I bet he already know the challenges he will face once they are both on the same ring fighting for the title. This will be a good one!

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Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Anyhow, I heard that Inoue is somehow tense about this upcoming fight. Since this is his first time fighting in the heavier Division and he is worried about his preparation since he doesn't know if his preparation is enough for the fight.

Inoue is still very humble and honest, that's what I like about this guy. He already knows that he is good but he always continues to push his limits. I'm happy that he is not underestimating his next opponent, and with that, we can assure that he'll do his best to give another impressive win.

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Manny Pacquiao could have been a 10 division champion if he didn't skipped 2 division when he decided to go up in weight.

That could have been hard to surpass, even difficult, but Manny did not think at that stage that he'll become an 8th-division world champion.

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I don't know, what's weird to me, is that Fulton is playing the race card here? or the article was put to be like that?

In any case, if he thinks he can beat the Monster to gain the respect from America then yeah, he needs to go to Japan and fight him. I like his mindset though, he thinks Inoue is small and so he can take him out. Also he mentioned that he has been in this kind of crowd, they are totally against him but he won (against Figueroa). Wherein the crowd was pro Mexican Brandon but nevertheless he did everything to win in the judges scorecard.

It seems that Fulton is underestimating Inoue but he will surely be needing enough time to prepare to face a monster. I hope he wouldn't be surprised with Inoue's punches as what Inoue did to his previous opponents. He should grab all the chances to prepare because Inoue is honestly hard to beat.
It will be a big hit if he will knock down Inoue but will also be a big challenge for him. Inoue has been consistent and dedicated and that is something that Fulton must be aware of.

Without doubt if Fulton could beat Inoue that would be a huge upset and will give Fulton a great deal of the credibility and the respect that he is looking for, however after reading the interview it seems to me that he is too fixated on the fans and who they support, fans like who they like, I am not from the Philippines and yet I never missed a fight of Pacquiao so his arguments ring hollow to me, if he wants to be a superstar then he needs to prove he is one and he has the perfect opportunity against Inoue to do so.

That will give him the respect that he wants if ever he will manage to beat the Monster, we all know that Inoue hot a huge amount of fans all over the world because of his showed greatness.

Same with your statement, if Fulton wants respect and recognition this will be a perfect timing for him.

Winning against the fans favorite will hype his name and will established his supremacy in this weight division.

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Quote from: Maslate on February 09, 2023, 06:27:22 AM

Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Manny Pacquiao could have been a 10 division champion if he didn't skipped 2 division when he decided to go up in weight. Anyhow, I heard that Inoue is somehow tense about this upcoming fight. Since this is his first time fighting in the heavier Division and he is worried about his preparation since he doesn't know if his preparation is enough for the fight.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 09, 2023, 12:53:12 PM

I don't know, what's weird to me, is that Fulton is playing the race card here? or the article was put to be like that?

In any case, if he thinks he can beat the Monster to gain the respect from America then yeah, he needs to go to Japan and fight him. I like his mindset though, he thinks Inoue is small and so he can take him out. Also he mentioned that he has been in this kind of crowd, they are totally against him but he won (against Figueroa). Wherein the crowd was pro Mexican Brandon but nevertheless he did everything to win in the judges scorecard.

It seems that Fulton is underestimating Inoue but he will surely be needing enough time to prepare to face a monster. I hope he wouldn't be surprised with Inoue's punches as what Inoue did to his previous opponents. He should grab all the chances to prepare because Inoue is honestly hard to beat.
It will be a big hit if he will knock down Inoue but will also be a big challenge for him. Inoue has been consistent and dedicated and that is something that Fulton must be aware of.

Without doubt if Fulton could beat Inoue that would be a huge upset and will give Fulton a great deal of the credibility and the respect that he is looking for, however after reading the interview it seems to me that he is too fixated on the fans and who they support, fans like who they like, I am not from the Philippines and yet I never missed a fight of Pacquiao so his arguments ring hollow to me, if he wants to be a superstar then he needs to prove he is one and he has the perfect opportunity against Inoue to do so.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 09, 2023, 12:53:12 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on February 09, 2023, 05:59:14 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 09, 2023, 05:37:41 AM

Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

What a weird article posted on Ring's website. I think the point is about Fulton not getting the attention and big respect in the US even if he owns 2 belts while Inoue is glorified not just in Japan but in the whole world. Inoue is ranked 2nd best pound for pound in the world and beating him would make Fulton very popular and probably get ranked in the top 10 p4p by The Ring.

I hope everything is finalized soon since this is a great fight. Fulton might think that Inoue's punches are just the same or even lesser than those of Brandon Figueroa whom he survived and won a very close fight.

I don't know, what's weird to me, is that Fulton is playing the race card here? or the article was put to be like that?

I think it's the later, probably the author just wanted more clicks and viewers and so he inserted this kind of background and we really don't know if Fulton really said that or what.

So I doubt the veracity of that article to be honest.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 09, 2023, 12:53:12 PM

In any case, if he thinks he can beat the Monster to gain the respect from America then yeah, he needs to go to Japan and fight him. I like his mindset though, he thinks Inoue is small and so he can take him out. Also he mentioned that he has been in this kind of crowd, they are totally against him but he won (against Figueroa). Wherein the crowd was pro Mexican Brandon but nevertheless he did everything to win in the judges scorecard.

His style though, not having a good knockout ratio, or not putting his opponents to sleep, might be one reason as well why Fulton is not universally recognized as we wanted to be. There are also another champion in the super bantamweight that he needs to fight to unify the belt, but he choose to go with Inoue first and maybe go up in weight next.

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