[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 53.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 09, 2023, 06:37:41 AM

Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

What a weird article posted on Ring's website. I think the point is about Fulton not getting the attention and big respect in the US even if he owns 2 belts while Inoue is glorified not just in Japan but in the whole world. Inoue is ranked 2nd best pound for pound in the world and beating him would make Fulton very popular and probably get ranked in the top 10 p4p by The Ring.

I hope everything is finalized soon since this is a great fight. Fulton might think that Inoue's punches are just the same or even lesser than those of Brandon Figueroa whom he survived and won a very close fight.

I don't know, what's weird to me, is that Fulton is playing the race card here? or the article was put to be like that?

In any case, if he thinks he can beat the Monster to gain the respect from America then yeah, he needs to go to Japan and fight him. I like his mindset though, he thinks Inoue is small and so he can take him out. Also he mentioned that he has been in this kind of crowd, they are totally against him but he won (against Figueroa). Wherein the crowd was pro Mexican Brandon but nevertheless he did everything to win in the judges scorecard.

It seems that Fulton is underestimating Inoue but he will surely be needing enough time to prepare to face a monster. I hope he wouldn't be surprised with Inoue's punches as what Inoue did to his previous opponents. He should grab all the chances to prepare because Inoue is honestly hard to beat.
It will be a big hit if he will knock down Inoue but will also be a big challenge for him. Inoue has been consistent and dedicated and that is something that Fulton must be aware of.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 09, 2023, 06:37:41 AM

Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

What a weird article posted on Ring's website. I think the point is about Fulton not getting the attention and big respect in the US even if he owns 2 belts while Inoue is glorified not just in Japan but in the whole world. Inoue is ranked 2nd best pound for pound in the world and beating him would make Fulton very popular and probably get ranked in the top 10 p4p by The Ring.

I hope everything is finalized soon since this is a great fight. Fulton might think that Inoue's punches are just the same or even lesser than those of Brandon Figueroa whom he survived and won a very close fight.

I think the smaller weight classes doesn't deserved the spotlight in boxing. Guys like Fulton or to some extend Gary Russell before (although he just fight quite few often), but they did the job done and win.

Yes, this is 122 lbs and Fulton could be very much comfortable in this division as he own one of the belts.

And if he wants respect then he need to travel to Japan and beat the rank 2 pound for pound.

Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Same with how Pacquiao succeed, it's a journey for Inoue to keep moving from time to time, after unifying all the belts from
the last weight division, he's now in the mission to test his power to snatch a new belt.

This time from another division where champion is waiting for him, a much tougher and bigger opponent that can beat
him as both are still at their primes.

We will see and we will be witnessing how Inoue will try to be like Pacquiao, the same pattern where Arum make his millions
out from those Pacquiao's fights.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 09, 2023, 06:59:14 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 09, 2023, 06:37:41 AM

Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

What a weird article posted on Ring's website. I think the point is about Fulton not getting the attention and big respect in the US even if he owns 2 belts while Inoue is glorified not just in Japan but in the whole world. Inoue is ranked 2nd best pound for pound in the world and beating him would make Fulton very popular and probably get ranked in the top 10 p4p by The Ring.

I hope everything is finalized soon since this is a great fight. Fulton might think that Inoue's punches are just the same or even lesser than those of Brandon Figueroa whom he survived and won a very close fight.

I don't know, what's weird to me, is that Fulton is playing the race card here? or the article was put to be like that?

In any case, if he thinks he can beat the Monster to gain the respect from America then yeah, he needs to go to Japan and fight him. I like his mindset though, he thinks Inoue is small and so he can take him out. Also he mentioned that he has been in this kind of crowd, they are totally against him but he won (against Figueroa). Wherein the crowd was pro Mexican Brandon but nevertheless he did everything to win in the judges scorecard.

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I believe that the main reason why people choose to wait until the day of the fight is because until the day of the fight a lot can happen, such as: the fighter can give up, the fighter can suffer a serious injury and recover in time of the fight but that will affect his performance and clearly that his opponent will have an advantage and consequently will be the favorite of the bookmakers, I for example would not bet on a fight that will only happen months later, I would bet when there are only a few days to go for the fight to begin

I don't think the right is still gonna happen if a fighter is injured prior to the fight, they can always postpone the right and wait for the fighter to heal his injury. Also, most of the sportsbooks now have a "cashout" option, which means you can get your funds if you don't want to proceed, but it's lower than what you originally bet if the odds are not in your favor.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on February 06, 2023, 06:17:59 PM

There are really some people who do love to bet on last hour or minute and i dont know on whats their reason.

I believe that the main reason why people choose to wait until the day of the fight is because until the day of the fight a lot can happen, such as: the fighter can give up, the fighter can suffer a serious injury and recover in time of the fight but that will affect his performance and clearly that his opponent will have an advantage and consequently will be the favorite of the bookmakers, I for example would not bet on a fight that will only happen months later, I would bet when there are only a few days to go for the fight to begin

the odds are something that change constantly and for that reason it is necessary to keep following the news in order to see if that odd that we are seeing is fair for a given fight, there are many cases in which the favorite has odds of @1.25 or less, bet there is no advantage at this odd, the best option would be to wait for this odd to increase to more than @1.50 and then analyze whether it is already a fair odd

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 09, 2023, 06:59:14 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 09, 2023, 06:37:41 AM

Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

What a weird article posted on Ring's website. I think the point is about Fulton not getting the attention and big respect in the US even if he owns 2 belts while Inoue is glorified not just in Japan but in the whole world. Inoue is ranked 2nd best pound for pound in the world and beating him would make Fulton very popular and probably get ranked in the top 10 p4p by The Ring.

I hope everything is finalized soon since this is a great fight. Fulton might think that Inoue's punches are just the same or even lesser than those of Brandon Figueroa whom he survived and won a very close fight.

I think the smaller weight classes doesn't deserved the spotlight in boxing. Guys like Fulton or to some extend Gary Russell before (although he just fight quite few often), but they did the job done and win.

Yes, this is 122 lbs and Fulton could be very much comfortable in this division as he own one of the belts.

And if he wants respect then he need to travel to Japan and beat the rank 2 pound for pound.

Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 09, 2023, 06:37:41 AM

Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

What a weird article posted on Ring's website. I think the point is about Fulton not getting the attention and big respect in the US even if he owns 2 belts while Inoue is glorified not just in Japan but in the whole world. Inoue is ranked 2nd best pound for pound in the world and beating him would make Fulton very popular and probably get ranked in the top 10 p4p by The Ring.

I hope everything is finalized soon since this is a great fight. Fulton might think that Inoue's punches are just the same or even lesser than those of Brandon Figueroa whom he survived and won a very close fight.

I think the smaller weight classes doesn't deserved the spotlight in boxing. Guys like Fulton or to some extend Gary Russell before (although he just fight quite few often), but they did the job done and win.

Yes, this is 122 lbs and Fulton could be very much comfortable in this division as he own one of the belts.

And if he wants respect then he need to travel to Japan and beat the rank 2 pound for pound.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 09, 2023, 06:59:14 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 09, 2023, 06:37:41 AM

Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

What a weird article posted on Ring's website. I think the point is about Fulton not getting the attention and big respect in the US even if he owns 2 belts while Inoue is glorified not just in Japan but in the whole world. Inoue is ranked 2nd best pound for pound in the world and beating him would make Fulton very popular and probably get ranked in the top 10 p4p by The Ring.

I hope everything is finalized soon since this is a great fight. Fulton might think that Inoue's punches are just the same or even lesser than those of Brandon Figueroa whom he survived and won a very close fight.

Fulton should really take this as the biggest fight of his career. Though he is the defending champion Inoue is still the more popular boxer, not only in Japan but in the whole world. The thing is, Inoue is the heavy favorite here, so Fulton being the champion might felt he was not respected, so he will try everything to upset Inoue and he'll enjoy the popularity that he never had before.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 09, 2023, 06:37:41 AM

Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

What a weird article posted on Ring's website. I think the point is about Fulton not getting the attention and big respect in the US even if he owns 2 belts while Inoue is glorified not just in Japan but in the whole world. Inoue is ranked 2nd best pound for pound in the world and beating him would make Fulton very popular and probably get ranked in the top 10 p4p by The Ring.

I hope everything is finalized soon since this is a great fight. Fulton might think that Inoue's punches are just the same or even lesser than those of Brandon Figueroa whom he survived and won a very close fight.

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Inoue's fans, what can you say about this?

https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/

They really think that it's a big war and they need to win so their country will be respected.
Looks like they are the ones thinking that way, it's not the battle of USA vs JAPAN, this is a sport, it's boxing and entertainment.
Well, if they think that way, good for them as that means they'll have to work hard to find a way to beat Inoue.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on February 07, 2023, 08:42:11 AM

I agree with your statement, if you are comfortable that Inoue can beat Fulton that odd is not bad to take. It can add the enjoyment
while watching the fight.

Bet now or wait during the live event, some gamblers will take it now and add more if there's adjustment that will take when the
fight is already ongoing.

The fight will happen on the next 3 months, I would predict the odds for Inoue would be smaller around ~1.25x because the hype is really favor on Inoue's side. Not to mention shit might happen when the fight get closer and closer, there's a chance Fulton might be replaced with the other weak boxer.

I actually wonder why people are betting during early odds? in the end there's no benefit for the bettors since the odds will keep adjusted.

Because there's a very big chance that the odds will become smaller like for example, if you bet now, the odds is 1.20x and if you'll bet inside the 24-48 hours mark before the fight, then the odds might be 1.15x or even 1.15x and that's the reason why most of the gamblers are going for the early bet especially in this case that it's almost impossible that Inoue's odds will be favorable to the bettors.

Yes and this is why its better to bet earlier once there already bookies had opened their lines for gamblers to make out some bet and its true that majority would really be keeping on eye on the time that it would really be available and make out some bets right away which they would really be cherishing and utilizing the odds as early as possible which it would really be that a very common approach.
I dont have any doubts that Inoue would be the favorite and odds would really become even more lower as the fight date is approaching so better to take up the position
on the time that you do see that its already available.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on February 07, 2023, 08:42:11 AM

I agree with your statement, if you are comfortable that Inoue can beat Fulton that odd is not bad to take. It can add the enjoyment
while watching the fight.

Bet now or wait during the live event, some gamblers will take it now and add more if there's adjustment that will take when the
fight is already ongoing.

The fight will happen on the next 3 months, I would predict the odds for Inoue would be smaller around ~1.25x because the hype is really favor on Inoue's side. Not to mention shit might happen when the fight get closer and closer, there's a chance Fulton might be replaced with the other weak boxer.

I actually wonder why people are betting during early odds? in the end there's no benefit for the bettors since the odds will keep adjusted.

Because there's a very big chance that the odds will become smaller like for example, if you bet now, the odds is 1.20x and if you'll bet inside the 24-48 hours mark before the fight, then the odds might be 1.15x or even 1.15x and that's the reason why most of the gamblers are going for the early bet especially in this case that it's almost impossible that Inoue's odds will be favorable to the bettors.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 08, 2023, 11:02:25 AM

The fact that this match has not been given an actual official date but said to be in may is not something I believe to be true. Its likely the fight will be postponed to a later date. Because every time we get such a flip-floppy answer when asking for the date, we very often see them changing the date in the future.

I am all in for Naoya Inoue. Fulton stands absolutely no chance.

Although it is quite curious why Inoue is rushing things here. I did not think he would challenge Stephan Fulton this early on. He should be building up his wins with other opponents before taking on Fulton. It just seems like he is impatient.

I will tend to agree, but hopefully this fight will happen in Japan around that time. Fulton supposed to be have a rematch fight with Brandon if I'm not mistaken, but it's not going to happen because he decided to stay at 122 lbs and face Inoue.

However, I disagree that Inoue is rushing things here, he has no challenge in bantamweight, he needs to move up to super bantam. And as a unified champion, he has been giving that kind of special treatment to face the champion in 122 lbs and that is Fulton.

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The fact that this match has not been given an actual official date but said to be in may is not something I believe to be true. Its likely the fight will be postponed to a later date. Because every time we get such a flip-floppy answer when asking for the date, we very often see them changing the date in the future.

I am all in for Naoya Inoue. Fulton stands absolutely no chance.

Although it is quite curious why Inoue is rushing things here. I did not think he would challenge Stephan Fulton this early on. He should be building up his wins with other opponents before taking on Fulton. It just seems like he is impatient.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 03, 2023, 08:50:23 AM

While Inoue, he was really dominating the division he has won being a unified champion, now he move up and will be threatening the champion to take their belts.

It's worth noting that Stephen Fulton is also planning to move up to 126 lbs even prior to this negotiation with Naoya Inoue. Actually, not just a plan for him but Fulton already taking steps to reach and maintain that weight. I do hope that it won't affect his training to keep shape at 122 lbs even already doing training courses to fully shape at 126 lbs.

Even a pound inch or two is struggling to do and can affect the boxer's performance a day before the fight. Although I believed that the several months left before Fulton face Inoue is enough to get physically fit again at 122 lbs. He's a champion after all.

Of course, we know that he is a champion but Inoue does not care, he will be continuing with his mission in defeating his opponents in a dominant passion. I would not even be surprise if Inoue winning via KO will have a lower odds than him winning via decision. This is a big fight for Inoue, and we can assure he will not underestimate Fulton, and he will also assure us an entertaining fight if Fulton will dance with him well in the ring.

yes you are right that mate once a challenger want to challenge A champion then he must be prepared at all times what ever the outcomes. But still he must do his duties and focus on his goal to defeat the champion and steal the belt. for sure this is what's inoue will do in his upcoming fight for me even if inoue can not knocking down Stephen Fulton at least he can defeat then that's okay but one thing I sure is that. Inoue will make a way to knock down fulton.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on February 07, 2023, 08:42:11 AM

I agree with your statement, if you are comfortable that Inoue can beat Fulton that odd is not bad to take. It can add the enjoyment
while watching the fight.

Bet now or wait during the live event, some gamblers will take it now and add more if there's adjustment that will take when the
fight is already ongoing.

The fight will happen on the next 3 months, I would predict the odds for Inoue would be smaller around ~1.25x because the hype is really favor on Inoue's side. Not to mention shit might happen when the fight get closer and closer, there's a chance Fulton might be replaced with the other weak boxer.

I actually wonder why people are betting during early odds? in the end there's no benefit for the bettors since the odds will keep adjusted.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 06, 2023, 05:59:03 PM

Those are good odds, if a casino is already offering them and you will make a bet on this fight anyway then it could be a good idea to take them, since as the fight gets closer to happening I have the feeling those odds will get much worse as the fans of Inoue begin to make their bets and casual fans make bets on the favorite which is Inoue, so at the end casinos will have no option but to give worse odds than what they are offering now.

As far as I know, that's the highest odds so far that Naoya Inoue gets as a Favorite to win the match in his entire career. Sometimes he is always at a minimum of +500 above in the majority of his fights. It means Stephen Fulton is considered by the bookies not that heavily an underdog in this match compared to Inoue's previous opponent although the gap of odds is really distant and huge.

For others that are not aware of how that mentioned odds above will be shown in our favorite sportsbook as a usual odds we are seeing, it would be:

Naoya Inoue @ 1.4
Stephen Fulton @ 3.1

Definitely, I will not skip this fight and will be betting on Inoue @1.40. Although he is a heavy favorite the odds are already a decent one, I mean 40% of your money is for a fight that you are very confident you'll win, this is a go for me.

I agree with your statement, if you are comfortable that Inoue can beat Fulton that odd is not bad to take. It can add the enjoyment
while watching the fight.

Fulton is the current champ, but the bookies is giving the favor to Inoue, not bad for the monster and surely those who like you that
believes that Inoue can beat Fulton in this matchup will take that same action.

Bet now or wait during the live event, some gamblers will take it now and add more if there's adjustment that will take when the
fight is already ongoing.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 06, 2023, 05:59:03 PM

Those are good odds, if a casino is already offering them and you will make a bet on this fight anyway then it could be a good idea to take them, since as the fight gets closer to happening I have the feeling those odds will get much worse as the fans of Inoue begin to make their bets and casual fans make bets on the favorite which is Inoue, so at the end casinos will have no option but to give worse odds than what they are offering now.

As far as I know, that's the highest odds so far that Naoya Inoue gets as a Favorite to win the match in his entire career. Sometimes he is always at a minimum of +500 above in the majority of his fights. It means Stephen Fulton is considered by the bookies not that heavily an underdog in this match compared to Inoue's previous opponent although the gap of odds is really distant and huge.

For others that are not aware of how that mentioned odds above will be shown in our favorite sportsbook as a usual odds we are seeing, it would be:

Naoya Inoue @ 1.4
Stephen Fulton @ 3.1

Definitely, I will not skip this fight and will be betting on Inoue @1.40. Although he is a heavy favorite the odds are already a decent one, I mean 40% of your money is for a fight that you are very confident you'll win, this is a go for me.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 06, 2023, 07:10:45 PM

There is no doubt that Fulton is the biggest challenge so far in his career because Fulton is the biggest among the opponent he fought. Besides, Fulton is a natural of the super bantamweight division while Inoue just happen to recently go up in weight class. Though Fulton KO victory isn't as impressive as Inoue, it really makes a difference when your opponent is naturally bigger than you.

Not a big deal if we are talking about the difference between 118 to 122.

Stephen Fulton maybe looks like a natural fighter in the Super Bantamweight as that's where he fights usually but didn't you know that Naoya Inoue, after every weigh-in in his 118 lbs fights, he is weighing around 122- 125 in the ring, on actual fights. It means Inoue is even overqualified already for Super Bantamweight and not having any disadvantages about weight differences. He is fast, quick, and agile.

And for me, Inoue can even match with those at 126 in a 1-2 years span.

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Quote from: harizen on February 05, 2023, 07:12:37 PM

Quote from: Botnake on February 05, 2023, 07:05:22 AM

This is a big fight for Inoue, and we can assure he will not underestimate Fulton, and he will also assure us an entertaining fight if Fulton will dance with him well in the ring.

In fairness to Naoya Inoue, no such behavior on him taking his fights lightly.

He never underestimates his opponents and in fact, his Knock Out rate is proof that he is serious in his fights regardless of the status of his opponents. Chasing more titles, Inoue is surely the most aggressive fighter here compare to Fulton that has already had several plans in line prior to Inoue moving up so he decided to change plans and choose to fight Inoue first.

Inoue also mentioned in an interview that Fulton so far is the biggest challenge in his career therefore expect the Japanese monster to go all-out on this match.

There is no doubt that Fulton is the biggest challenge so far in his career because Fulton is the biggest among the opponent he fought. Besides, Fulton is a natural of the super bantamweight division while Inoue just happen to recently go up in weight class. Though Fulton KO victory isn't as impressive as Inoue, it really makes a difference when your opponent is naturally bigger than you.

Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 53. (Read 7017 times)