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Quote from: naikturun on May 01, 2020, 10:14:49 AM

I do not know but I think it still violates the rules or procedures.
they shouldn't do this because it's no longer a plague between 1 or 2 countries, but it covers the whole world, if indeed the reason is
because they need money to eat, I guess they can still do something else.

They knew that it's a world crisis, a pandemic that can endanger the entire humanity. And they don't take cautious because the total confirmed cases is too low and they probably have isolated those confirmed patients.

Quote from: jossiel on April 27, 2020, 12:38:20 AM

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Confirmed - 13
Deaths - 3
Recovered - 7
Source: google.com's covid-19 alert

This was the number a few days ago.

Now look, the numbers. There is an addition.

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Confirmed +1 = 14
Recovered still = 7
Deaths +1 = 4
Source: google.com's covid-19 alert

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Even though Nicaragua is a country that isn't often visited by tourists, it still is an important passageway from South to North America. Cases aren't really off the charts on the said country, but knowing that they don't do testing on a massive scale compared to other countries, it's really quite a dumb move to let a boxing event happen plus have the crowds come in. It's basically a ticking time bomb promoting community transmission to happen in their country. While I understand the sentiment that the boxers need some food on the table, the whole world is also faring the same sea of uncertainty, and it's just not them.

I guess we'll know in a week or two whether the boxing event caused a community transmission to happen or not once official tallies come in from Nicaragua.

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Quote from: jossiel on April 27, 2020, 10:17:59 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 27, 2020, 01:04:43 PM

This is really pathetic. The promoters are exploiting the helplessness of the boxers. Most of those who would agree to fight will be the ones facing acute financial crunch. Else who will take this suicidal step? Check the case with Belarus. They went ahead with the football league, after ignoring the advice from the medical experts. Now they have one of the fastest spreading COVID epidemics in the world.

I'm not defending Nicaragua and I'm not from that country but after looking to the information and number of cases with Belarus, they have more cases compare to Nicaragua. That's sad to know that Belarus allowed that to happen.

The permission was granted by their officials and it's considerable because the cases there are that low. They have practiced social distancing and the audience aren't that much base to the picture posted on the first page.

While that sounds nice the real question is how many tests for one million people each country is performing? After all it is very easy to say that there not many people infected by this new coronavirus if you are not performing any tests, and at least in the case of Belarus the number of tests per one million is close to 20,000 which is basically at the same level than the United States but in the case of Nicaragua I cannot even find that number which means that they are not carrying enough tests and if that is the case how they can say that the number of people infected in their country is low when they do not have that information?

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Quote from: robelneo on April 26, 2020, 09:44:34 PM

So boxing promoters from Nicaragua still proceed with their boxing match despite the pandemic, they have taken all the precautions
Fighters are sprayed with disinfectant, ring girls don face masks and socially-distanced fans.

The promoters dismissed the coronavirus and insist that boxers need to eat and feed his family

They have held this event because the number of infected is not very high in their country.

What do you think about this, do you think that some sporting events have a good chance of resuming?

Those were dumb decisions to make a crowded event possible amidst the pandemic. Though they take the precautionary measures, the virus is an unseen enemy, therefore every country and even everyone must take the strongest precaution - the quarantine and social distancing, which is to prevent the further spreading and fully eradicate the virus.

Yet, if their government doesn't implied strict law and ordinances, their country already controlled the spreading of the virus, or their country already is already COVID free, we cannot blame them making the events resumed. And not all countries are affected and can be affected by the virus.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 30, 2020, 08:03:51 PM

Nicaragua: Reckless COVID-19 Response.

The same is the situation with Sweden as there is no strict measure and people are still roaming outside even though the amount of patients are increasing and the body count is much larger than their neighboring countries and they are hoping that everything will be fine soon, what stupidity by the authorities and if they are not taking things seriously they will suffer badly.

Quote from: Kemarit on April 30, 2020, 08:03:51 PM

As far as boxing event, everyone is at risk, they should implement what neighboring countries are doing. It just take one positive carrier to enter their country and then this will blow out of proportions.

It only takes one patient to spoil the party and what measures they took before the event is not clear, the government might be in dire situation to raise money and the event might be the only solution, who knows what their economic situation.

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I do not know but I think it still violates the rules or procedures.
they shouldn't do this because it's no longer a plague between 1 or 2 countries, but it covers the whole world, if indeed the reason is
because they need money to eat, I guess they can still do something else.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 30, 2020, 08:03:51 PM

This boxing event happened because the government themselves Nicaragua: Reckless COVID-19 Response.

Yes, the number of cases in that country is small, but it doesn't mean that they are safe and free from the virus itself. There are no mass testings, lock-down but I do hope that the President should not take lightly. As far as boxing event, everyone is at risk, they should implement what neighboring countries are doing. It just take one positive carrier to enter their country and then this will blow out of proportions.

They are not yet alarmed because there are only 7 confirmed case of Covid, but once the infection starts to rise, they will immediately announce a lockdown, a lockdown has a huge impact in the economy and the government don't want that to happen, if they can contain it and the number don't rise, the people can still go their normal life.

Total population of nicaragua is more than 6 million, so 7 confirmed cases is just a very small number.
number of population source : https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/nicaragua-population/

Maybe we can criticize them because in our country we are in lock down, but they know what they are doing since its their own country.
They know the risk but it's not a big risk so they manage to make this fight to take placed.

I do not think that the risks are too small, the fight should immediately cancel or postpone due to the threat of the virus. Sports around the world are being postponed because of the virus and I do not know why the Nicaragua allow the boxing match to continue. The enemy is invisible, I'm talking about the virus and even though their country have only few numbers of infected, there is still high chance that the virus may spread specially in crowded areas like in boxing arena.

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Quote from: smyslov on May 01, 2020, 08:51:51 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on April 30, 2020, 08:03:51 PM

This boxing event happened because the government themselves Nicaragua: Reckless COVID-19 Response.

Yes, the number of cases in that country is small, but it doesn't mean that they are safe and free from the virus itself. There are no mass testings, lock-down but I do hope that the President should not take lightly. As far as boxing event, everyone is at risk, they should implement what neighboring countries are doing. It just take one positive carrier to enter their country and then this will blow out of proportions.

They are not yet alarmed because there are only 7 confirmed case of Covid, but once the infection starts to rise, they will immediately announce a lockdown, a lockdown has a huge impact in the economy and the government don't want that to happen, if they can contain it and the number don't rise, the people can still go their normal life.

Total population of nicaragua is more than 6 million, so 7 confirmed cases is just a very small number.
number of population source : https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/nicaragua-population/

Maybe we can criticize them because in our country we are in lock down, but they know what they are doing since its their own country.
They know the risk but it's not a big risk so they manage to make this fight to take placed.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 30, 2020, 08:03:51 PM

This boxing event happened because the government themselves Nicaragua: Reckless COVID-19 Response.

Yes, the number of cases in that country is small, but it doesn't mean that they are safe and free from the virus itself. There are no mass testings, lock-down but I do hope that the President should not take lightly. As far as boxing event, everyone is at risk, they should implement what neighboring countries are doing. It just take one positive carrier to enter their country and then this will blow out of proportions.

They are not yet alarmed because there are only 7 confirmed case of Covid, but once the infection starts to rise, they will immediately announce a lockdown, a lockdown has a huge impact in the economy and the government don't want that to happen, if they can contain it and the number don't rise, the people can still go their normal life.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 30, 2020, 08:03:51 PM

This boxing event happened because the government themselves Nicaragua: Reckless COVID-19 Response.

Yes, the number of cases in that country is small, but it doesn't mean that they are safe and free from the virus itself. There are no mass testings, lock-down but I do hope that the President should not take lightly. As far as boxing event, everyone is at risk, they should implement what neighboring countries are doing. It just take one positive carrier to enter their country and then this will blow out of proportions.

Same government as the ones who lied about numbers. But once the politics is a ground for liars and it's necessary for them to do so to make the people calm down.

Self-quarantine works for all countries which are why there is the lockdown. If they can't do this and minimize the mass gathering like the boxing events, many of them will really die.

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Quote from: Clark05 on May 01, 2020, 04:41:59 AM

It is not a good idea because we see more people watching in the boxing in the stadium and this is very risky for them to go to the fighting place and I think better for them to do is to cancel the events and continue it after few months of the lockdown for the safety of the people who are gonna watch that fight and I hope thwie government will not agree on that.

There is no event that will be cancelled, the event has already happen, you can check the OP and the news he shared.
You can also see a lot of pictures of the fight and that shows they employ measures to make this place a safe place against covid-19.

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It is not a good idea because we see more people watching in the boxing in the stadium and this is very risky for them to go to the fighting place and I think better for them to do is to cancel the events and continue it after few months of the lockdown for the safety of the people who are gonna watch that fight and I hope thwie government will not agree on that.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on May 01, 2020, 03:42:24 AM

to me that is something that seems forced to achieve personal gain.
at times like this it's better to hold back so that the spread of the coronavirus can be minimized.

Whatever you call it, the event would not be successful without the support of the people.
The fact that people still watched the game, that shows their interest, and they aren't afraid of the covid-19 as they are aware of their very small number of cases, and that would only be a small risk on their part.. prevention is better than cure as they say, but you can't really tell these people to stop what they are doing, unless you are the authority.

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to me that is something that seems forced to achieve personal gain.
at times like this it's better to hold back so that the spread of the coronavirus can be minimized.

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Looks like Nicaragua had no new cases for quite long time. If they have closed their borders and restricted all sorts of travelling (inbound and outbound), then I guess they are safe just like Nepal and other countries that had like 2/3 cases where the patients were dealt with. If they are doing proper and enough testing of their patients, and there are zero new cases, then I see nothing wrong with this. Though, yeah. You don't want to risk anything. A single infected person who hasn't been tested might infect the whole crowd making a huge mess!

Definitely, just a drop of his saliva could infect allot already, but basically, why would they watch without protection right? I think they will still wear mask to avoid having the virus, or maybe the infected person should wear it. I am just thinking about this, if they are feeling sick, basically having the coronavirus, why would they still watch boxing match? or maybe they don't feel the symptoms yet but they are already a carrier of the virus. That's the problem here, even though we think it is safe for us to watch, we don't actually know if someone has it, meaning to say that these kind of activities should be within the jurisdiction of the country, and with a reason of having not enough funds to support their family isn't reasonable at all. It shouldn't be allowed so people could stay at home.

Closing borders, no new infected cases, and even wearing a mask for a so-called protection (which won't really do that good if you're totally exposed) isn't an assurance to go further with such events. It is not about the number, it should be all about on maintaining the possible worst-case scenario. Being over confident with having small or no number of cases at all would harm 'em by a very slightly mistake of letting the mass goes in public specially if someone out there is a carrier or an asymptomatic one (which is alarming since you don't even know if you have it or not).

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Quote from: adzino on April 30, 2020, 08:34:15 PM

Looks like Nicaragua had no new cases for quite long time. If they have closed their borders and restricted all sorts of travelling (inbound and outbound), then I guess they are safe just like Nepal and other countries that had like 2/3 cases where the patients were dealt with. If they are doing proper and enough testing of their patients, and there are zero new cases, then I see nothing wrong with this. Though, yeah. You don't want to risk anything. A single infected person who hasn't been tested might infect the whole crowd making a huge mess!

Definitely, just a drop of his saliva could infect allot already, but basically, why would they watch without protection right? I think they will still wear mask to avoid having the virus, or maybe the infected person should wear it. I am just thinking about this, if they are feeling sick, basically having the coronavirus, why would they still watch boxing match? or maybe they don't feel the symptoms yet but they are already a carrier of the virus. That's the problem here, even though we think it is safe for us to watch, we don't actually know if someone has it, meaning to say that these kind of activities should be within the jurisdiction of the country, and with a reason of having not enough funds to support their family isn't reasonable at all. It shouldn't be allowed so people could stay at home.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 30, 2020, 08:32:24 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on April 30, 2020, 08:03:51 PM

This boxing event happened because the government themselves Nicaragua: Reckless COVID-19 Response.

Yes, the number of cases in that country is small, but it doesn't mean that they are safe and free from the virus itself. There are no mass testings, lock-down but I do hope that the President should not take lightly. As far as boxing event, everyone is at risk, they should implement what neighboring countries are doing. It just take one positive carrier to enter their country and then this will blow out of proportions.

Just one reckless and hard-headed virus carrier will ruin it all. What Nicaragua is doing is a gamble, this will bring their economy further down if contamination won't be controlled anymore, just like the case of Singapore where there is a second wave of contamination. In fairness to the government i think they are doing a good job in handling this crisis basing on the number of infected cases on their country.

It shouldnt really be taken easily and as said, one mistake then it would turn out to be a mess and would possibly cant control the virus anymore once its been spread out.
They are just too confident on making these events in the middle of this situation even though they have set out good security but still not a 100% that they wont really able to
spread out into those who got infected.Asymptomatic person cant really be detected out on earlier days which would really be a big risk if it do able to go whenever he wants
without being detected but already slowly affecting people around him.We might not see these numbers now but who knows that it would pop up soon.

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Quote from: adzino on April 30, 2020, 08:34:15 PM

Looks like Nicaragua had no new cases for quite long time. If they have closed their borders and restricted all sorts of travelling (inbound and outbound), then I guess they are safe just like Nepal and other countries that had like 2/3 cases where the patients were dealt with. If they are doing proper and enough testing of their patients, and there are zero new cases, then I see nothing wrong with this. Though, yeah. You don't want to risk anything. A single infected person who hasn't been tested might infect the whole crowd making a huge mess!

Let me quote this article:

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Experts in Nicaragua agree the government uses confusing arithmetic for propaganda purposes and to reinforce the idea that the health system has controlled the pandemic.

When he reappeared after a 34-day absence in the midst of the health emergency, President Daniel Ortega maintained the virus had been contained “with the limited resources” of Nicaragua and “with patience.”

The reduction of figures is not limited only to positive cases. Statistics are also applied to suspicious cases, so data is also always on the downside.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/nicaragua-has-unusually-low-number-of-covid-19-cases/1813537

So maybe what we are getting from the government itself is not the true number of cases or death itself, so in a nutshell very questionable or maybe the government itself is hiding something. So people really think that their country is safe from this pandemic.

As @bisdak40 has said, this is gamble for the government to allow this kind of sporting events, really very scary.

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Looks like Nicaragua had no new cases for quite long time. If they have closed their borders and restricted all sorts of travelling (inbound and outbound), then I guess they are safe just like Nepal and other countries that had like 2/3 cases where the patients were dealt with. If they are doing proper and enough testing of their patients, and there are zero new cases, then I see nothing wrong with this. Though, yeah. You don't want to risk anything. A single infected person who hasn't been tested might infect the whole crowd making a huge mess!

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 30, 2020, 08:03:51 PM

This boxing event happened because the government themselves Nicaragua: Reckless COVID-19 Response.

Yes, the number of cases in that country is small, but it doesn't mean that they are safe and free from the virus itself. There are no mass testings, lock-down but I do hope that the President should not take lightly. As far as boxing event, everyone is at risk, they should implement what neighboring countries are doing. It just take one positive carrier to enter their country and then this will blow out of proportions.

Just one reckless and hard-headed virus carrier will ruin it all. What Nicaragua is doing is a gamble, this will bring their economy further down if contamination won't be controlled anymore, just like the case of Singapore where there is a second wave of contamination. In fairness to the government i think they are doing a good job in handling this crisis basing on the number of infected cases on their country.

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