[Boxing]Canelo Alvarez vs Callum Smith Super Middleweight Title - page 5.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 21, 2020, 04:38:15 PM

Quote from: ReiMomo on November 21, 2020, 02:14:59 PM

Canelo will definitely able to win in this match and I guess he just wants to get rid of his boredom, Lol.
Or I should say that he is just doing some warm ups for the meantime while preparing for a bigger fight in the future and not to get weaken while waiting for it.

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

Caleb was the first option for a Canelo return but i don't know why it was scrapped and he was replaced by Callum Smith which on my opinion more worthy of an opponent than Caleb. If we have to look at the tale of the tape, it's some sort of a David vs Goliath thing

. Smith has the height and reach advantage and they are putting Canelo as the favorite to win which i also believed he will.

The only way to make the Plant fight was by putting it on PPV which would have required more effort in marketing. There is not enough time left in the schedule and they also have to work around the Spence vs. Garcia fight. It was easier to go with the DAZN option because it is a cheaper price and they already have a subscriber base. Canelo will likely explore the PPV option again next year after this fight if he thinks there is more money to be made going that route.

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The venue will be on Alamodome, the same venue for the Davis vs Sta. Cruz fight, so there will be some fans in attendance.

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he sport’s leading attraction now has a home for his long-awaited ring return.

Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez’s upcoming showdown with unbeaten super middleweight titlist Callum Smith (27-0, 19KOs) has landed at The Alamodome in San Antonio, BoxingScene.com has learned. The multi-purpose venue—which seats up to 72,000 during healthier times—will be configured to allow as many fans as social distancing parameters will allow for their December 19 headliner, which will air live on DAZN-USA

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-callum-smith-alamodome-san-antonio--153407

Good choice of venue, at least boxing fans can see live fights starring the cash cow of boxing right now.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on November 21, 2020, 02:14:59 PM

Canelo will definitely able to win in this match and I guess he just wants to get rid of his boredom, Lol.
Or I should say that he is just doing some warm ups for the meantime while preparing for a bigger fight in the future and not to get weaken while waiting for it.

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

Caleb was the first option for a Canelo return but i don't know why it was scrapped and he was replaced by Callum Smith which on my opinion more worthy of an opponent than Caleb. If we have to look at the tale of the tape, it's some sort of a David vs Goliath thing

. Smith has the height and reach advantage and they are putting Canelo as the favorite to win which i also believed he will.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on November 21, 2020, 02:14:59 PM

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

That's what separate against a special against and ordinary one, they are focus in everything they do, they trained hard and they don't take games for granted like they underestimate their opponent, I think Canelo have seen the biggest upset this year, so he would not allow that to happen to him.

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Canelo will definitely able to win in this match and I guess he just wants to get rid of his boredom, Lol.
Or I should say that he is just doing some warm ups for the meantime while preparing for a bigger fight in the future and not to get weaken while waiting for it.

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 19, 2020, 03:56:39 PM

Quote from: Dave1 on November 19, 2020, 06:41:25 AM

I'm also loving the fact that Callum Smith is the underdog because I will give him the a good chance to upset Alvarez. Don't underestimate Smith here, he is too big for Canelo and has the punching power to crack that granite chin. Sooner it later it will be broken and I think Callum Smith will be the one. If there is already opening on sportbet.io, I will have Callum by KO/TKO or ML.

Good choice but the seeing the last fight of Callum which was not impressive, i will bet for Canelo. Smith bing too big for Canelo, can't be KO'ed and that is why i will go for Canelo via unanimous decision if the odds is attractive enough. I have now the impression that team Canelo have chosen Smith for his December return because of the latter's not impressive performance on his last outing which can be considered as cherry picking lol.

It won't be attractive odds for Canelo, either ML or via UD.

Yes, they have factor what Callum have shown in the last fight, there are boxing fans that says Callum lost that fight. Either way, it could be cherry picking or they think that Callum is a good stylistic match up for Canelo and showcase his strengths again and retain his pound for pound rankings.

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Quote from: zhea on November 20, 2020, 04:50:19 PM

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I tried checking their records but it seem that Canelo has been listed as Saul Alvarez so I am a little curious why there is a little change in their names.

Saul Alvarez is his real name, Canelo is like a name in the boxing world, like Floyld for Money or Manny for pacman, that's their alias and it's easy to recognize since it's just a short one.

He is known to boxing fans as "Canelo" and when we saw that name, it is automatic that it refers to Saul Alvarez.

Callum Smith really has a chance to beat the Mexican in this fight because he is the bigger fighter of the two and that alone is the biggest advantage of this fight though Canelo is more technical but if the former could impose his size on Canelo, upset could happen.

Who knows, but yes it's a good advantage for Smith as he's much bigger and he's reach is really
have a big difference.But in the other hand, if we still remember how Pacman beats Thurman who
also have a good advantage not just in height and reach but also at age. But then again we will
only knew it when the bell went out and the announcer declared who wins. The fight is getting
closer it's less than a month now enough time to save some spare coins.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 20, 2020, 11:13:54 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 20, 2020, 09:38:00 PM

Won't happened, Canelo can't squeeze to 147 lbs or even 154 lbs. And Mayweather can't go as high as 160 lbs or 168 lbs, so I don't see it happening anytime in the future. But the Canelo that fought Mayweather is too green, outside of Mexico, no one really know him that time, however, Oscar was able to match him with Floyd that time.

@notblox1 - yes, probably 5-1 favorite at the start and grow as the fight gets close, no surprise, let's wait for the official odds, probably we will see in next week or before Dec. 1.

I expect a lot of British fans to put money on Callum Smith and move the odds closer. We know how hard it is to beat Canelo on the scorecards. Even when Floyd swept almost every round against him he was still able to get a favorable score from judge CJ Ross. That's probably why the odds are so wide and don't reflect how competitive this fight will be.

Yes, just like the way they support Hatton during the Pacquaio fight. Really hard to beat Canelo on the scorecards, we have been GGG almost do it, but not enough for the judges scorecard. Not sure what will be the odds, the only thing clear for now is that it's going to be a wide margin in Canelo, just a couple more weeks and let's see how British fans will close the gap with their money bet on Callum Smith.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 20, 2020, 09:38:00 PM

Won't happened, Canelo can't squeeze to 147 lbs or even 154 lbs. And Mayweather can't go as high as 160 lbs or 168 lbs, so I don't see it happening anytime in the future. But the Canelo that fought Mayweather is too green, outside of Mexico, no one really know him that time, however, Oscar was able to match him with Floyd that time.

@notblox1 - yes, probably 5-1 favorite at the start and grow as the fight gets close, no surprise, let's wait for the official odds, probably we will see in next week or before Dec. 1.

I expect a lot of British fans to put money on Callum Smith and move the odds closer. We know how hard it is to beat Canelo on the scorecards. Even when Floyd swept almost every round against him he was still able to get a favorable score from judge CJ Ross. That's probably why the odds are so wide and don't reflect how competitive this fight will be.

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I remembered when Canelo fought Mayweather last 2013 and from that fight, Canelo learned and trained from that fight. He gain all the knowledge, skill, and discipline which made him today's perfect warrior especially in his weight class. If I were to gamble and bet again (I vowed to stop), this would be one of the few exceptions that would let me gamble again.

So you like to see a rematch between Canelo and Mayweather? I think this is going to be a good fight now that Canelo has already improved and have matured as a boxer, after that loss, he was so exceptional in all of his fights but if I were to choose, I'd rather see a Canelo vs GGG trilogy.

Won't happened, Canelo can't squeeze to 147 lbs or even 154 lbs. And Mayweather can't go as high as 160 lbs or 168 lbs, so I don't see it happening anytime in the future. But the Canelo that fought Mayweather is too green, outside of Mexico, no one really know him that time, however, Oscar was able to match him with Floyd that time.

@notblox1 - yes, probably 5-1 favorite at the start and grow as the fight gets close, no surprise, let's wait for the official odds, probably we will see in next week or before Dec. 1.

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Canelo Alvarez (53-1-2) is back in action after November 2019 and win against russian Sergey Kovalev and winning WBO World Light-Heavyweight title.
In total he had 36 KOs so far.

Callum Smith (27-0) has great winning record and 19 KOs and he wanted this fight for a long time, and this will be great fight between Mexico and UK.

Odds suggest that Alvarez is heavy favorite in this fight with around 70% chance of winning and that is not surprising.
I am still waiting to see odds for this fight on some crypto bookies, and I could not find it on Sportsbet or any other I use.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on November 20, 2020, 05:50:08 PM

I remembered when Canelo fought Mayweather last 2013 and from that fight, Canelo learned and trained from that fight. He gain all the knowledge, skill, and discipline which made him today's perfect warrior especially in his weight class. If I were to gamble and bet again (I vowed to stop), this would be one of the few exceptions that would let me gamble again.

So you like to see a rematch between Canelo and Mayweather? I think this is going to be a good fight now that Canelo has already improved and have matured as a boxer, after that loss, he was so exceptional in all of his fights but if I were to choose, I'd rather see a Canelo vs GGG trilogy.

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Callum punches is no push over, but he may never had a great fight such as Canelo. Definitely a good fight, especially when the boxers likes to brawl this would be a good fight but i think Canelo would dominate this match considering he has face such Golovkin.
I wonder if Callum can match Canelo in his fighting style.

The power and technique that Canelo practiced is just too much but I do believe that this would be a good fight!

Let's hope for that, Callum is not a known fighter for me, so I believe it's a tune up fright for Canelo on his next big fight.

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I remembered when Canelo fought Mayweather last 2013 and from that fight, Canelo learned and trained from that fight. He gain all the knowledge, skill, and discipline which made him today's perfect warrior especially in his weight class. If I were to gamble and bet again (I vowed to stop), this would be one of the few exceptions that would let me gamble again.

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Callum punches is no push over, but he may never had a great fight such as Canelo. Definitely a good fight, especially when the boxers likes to brawl this would be a good fight but i think Canelo would dominate this match considering he has face such Golovkin.
I wonder if Callum can match Canelo in his fighting style.

The power and technique that Canelo practiced is just too much but I do believe that this would be a good fight!

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on November 20, 2020, 05:15:14 PM

Callum Smith really has a chance to beat the Mexican in this fight because he is the bigger fighter of the two and that alone is the biggest advantage of this fight though Canelo is more technical but if the former could impose his size on Canelo, upset could happen.

Not to underestimate Callum on here but i feel he would fall short on fighting towards Canelo.He had that firepower considering that he had 70% knock out rate but if we do compare it
when it comes to experience then he had just reached out a half on what Canelo had achieved and out of 53 wins he had only 1 lost which is something that you cant really be confident
off when facing this fighter but somehow he had some chance.

We should never rule out an upset we have seen so many upsets this year, Smith is also a champion with a good knock out rate, the fact that he is a champion, we should also give him the respect that he deserves even though on comparison Alvarez stands out to be the better guy, this is going to be a great match up, of course I'll go for Alvarez.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2020, 07:47:50 AM

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"He is a fighter who comes forward looking for a fight, who does not give you a chance to breathe, to get your rhythm going. He is a fighter who has many qualities, a lot of power too, but we are ready for this and for more. I think at these levels we have to fit in with everything with the experience we have and it will be a great fight. I'm ready for this and these kinds of challenges are the ones I like in boxing to keep going and make history," said Canelo.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-expects-great-fight-with-smith-aims-work-with-all-promoters--153374

So he knows whats coming, so he already have plans to offset Smith's reach and height advantage. And we are glad that he is willing to fight anyone whether in his division or go up again like the Kovalev fight. So I'm not seeing Callum winning, we haven't seen the best version of Canelo yet.

They're professional boxers so usually they know how to deal with someone who isn't their height, and has the height advantage. Its quite typical for a fighter to spar in training camp with boxers similar to the style of their opponent. Personally, I don't think there's much of an impact with height advantage as people try to make out. Of course, it has its factors but being taller than your opponent also leaves you open to certain type of attacks. Mike Tyson in his prime was one of the smaller boxers in terms of height, yet he fought on the inside, and made a massive career out of it. His ducking, weaving style is what made him so dangerous to those that were taller than him, and of course his killer uppercuts.

Tyson is different though, he was ahead of his time, and combine that with a one punch knockout, he was one of a kind boxer. Oscar Dela Hoya though, when he was campaigning on the welterweight during his prime, he is taller from most of the boxers at that weight class, so he was again, a combination of fast hands plus his length and reach advantage. So it's really up to Callum on how he takes advantage of it in the first couple of rounds and gauge the distance.

Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2020, 07:47:50 AM

I don't think we've seen the best version of Callum either, and there's no way to tell if we'll see either fighter at their best in the up and coming fight. I would say, it'll be decided on points, and be within a point or two if I was going to make a prediction. I wouldn't advise anyone betting on this fight though, because it really could go anyway. Canelo has definitely got the experience to avoid a knockout, while Callum has definitely got experience, but he might be a little more prone to taking chances than Canelo.

Yes, we can only judge them with the level of oppositions the have face before. Last time he looks awful, so that might sway bettors against him. Canelo has a granite chin, that's one factor to think as well. Again, I've seen boxing gamblers here taking the risk of betting on the underdogs Grin

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Quote from: zhea on November 20, 2020, 04:50:19 PM

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Quote from: bonjouros on November 19, 2020, 02:12:22 PM

I tried checking their records but it seem that Canelo has been listed as Saul Alvarez so I am a little curious why there is a little change in their names.

Saul Alvarez is his real name, Canelo is like a name in the boxing world, like Floyld for Money or Manny for pacman, that's their alias and it's easy to recognize since it's just a short one.

He is known to boxing fans as "Canelo" and when we saw that name, it is automatic that it refers to Saul Alvarez.

Callum Smith really has a chance to beat the Mexican in this fight because he is the bigger fighter of the two and that alone is the biggest advantage of this fight though Canelo is more technical but if the former could impose his size on Canelo, upset could happen.

Not to underestimate Callum on here but i feel he would fall short on fighting towards Canelo.He had that firepower considering that he had 70% knock out rate but if we do compare it
when it comes to experience then he had just reached out a half on what Canelo had achieved and out of 53 wins he had only 1 lost which is something that you cant really be confident
off when facing this fighter but somehow he had some chance.

About on "Canelo" nick then heres some research:

The world "Canelo" has actually been shortened from the Spanish world "canelito".
This means "little cinnamon" in Spanish.
The boxer is known by this nickname because of his red hair and freckles.
His real full name is Santos Saul Alvarez Barragan.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 20, 2020, 02:40:14 AM

Quote from: bonjouros on November 19, 2020, 02:12:22 PM

I tried checking their records but it seem that Canelo has been listed as Saul Alvarez so I am a little curious why there is a little change in their names.

Saul Alvarez is his real name, Canelo is like a name in the boxing world, like Floyld for Money or Manny for pacman, that's their alias and it's easy to recognize since it's just a short one.

He is known to boxing fans as "Canelo" and when we saw that name, it is automatic that it refers to Saul Alvarez.

Callum Smith really has a chance to beat the Mexican in this fight because he is the bigger fighter of the two and that alone is the biggest advantage of this fight though Canelo is more technical but if the former could impose his size on Canelo, upset could happen.

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I think it will be a close fight also. People might think it's easy because Smith struggled against John Ryder in his last fight but it happens sometimes when you fight a lower level opponent it is hard to be motivated and you have a bad night. There's a reason why David Benavidez's promoter had avoided putting him against Smith for as long as possible even though he is owed an opportunity to fight for the WBC title after winning the World Boxing Super Series.

To be honest. i have not followed the career of Smith yet and me living in the East side of the globe has just heard for the first time his name when he is paired with Canelo. You are right, fighting a lower tier boxer won't motivate you to train harder, that's the problem most boxers had. A fight with Canelo could be Smith's career paycheck i believe so better train hard for this one.

BTW, OP already updated.

He better does, the underdog beating the favourite is not rare at all and it happens way more often than what people believe and there are many factors for that, the first one is that the favourite has a tendency to underestimate his opponent and instead of training and study as hard as he should he takes a lot of free time thinking that it is going to be an easy fight not understanding that at those levels the difference between the champion and the runner-up is not as wide as they believe.

And when it comes to the underdog they see this as an opportunity of a lifetime, because even if they do not win if they are able to put a good fight then most likely they will be able to book other big fights and that can be more than enough to set them for life.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 19, 2020, 04:20:50 PM

As per Canelo:

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"He is a fighter who comes forward looking for a fight, who does not give you a chance to breathe, to get your rhythm going. He is a fighter who has many qualities, a lot of power too, but we are ready for this and for more. I think at these levels we have to fit in with everything with the experience we have and it will be a great fight. I'm ready for this and these kinds of challenges are the ones I like in boxing to keep going and make history," said Canelo.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-expects-great-fight-with-smith-aims-work-with-all-promoters--153374

So he knows whats coming, so he already have plans to offset Smith's reach and height advantage. And we are glad that he is willing to fight anyone whether in his division or go up again like the Kovalev fight. So I'm not seeing Callum winning, we haven't seen the best version of Canelo yet.

They're professional boxers so usually they know how to deal with someone who isn't their height, and has the height advantage. Its quite typical for a fighter to spar in training camp with boxers similar to the style of their opponent. Personally, I don't think there's much of an impact with height advantage as people try to make out. Of course, it has its factors but being taller than your opponent also leaves you open to certain type of attacks. Mike Tyson in his prime was one of the smaller boxers in terms of height, yet he fought on the inside, and made a massive career out of it. His ducking, weaving style is what made him so dangerous to those that were taller than him, and of course his killer uppercuts.

I don't think we've seen the best version of Callum either, and there's no way to tell if we'll see either fighter at their best in the up and coming fight. I would say, it'll be decided on points, and be within a point or two if I was going to make a prediction. I wouldn't advise anyone betting on this fight though, because it really could go anyway. Canelo has definitely got the experience to avoid a knockout, while Callum has definitely got experience, but he might be a little more prone to taking chances than Canelo.

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Quote from: bonjouros on November 19, 2020, 02:12:22 PM

I tried checking their records but it seem that Canelo has been listed as Saul Alvarez so I am a little curious why there is a little change in their names.

Saul Alvarez is his real name, Canelo is like a name in the boxing world, like Floyld for Money or Manny for pacman, that's their alias and it's easy to recognize since it's just a short one.

Quote from: bonjouros on November 19, 2020, 02:12:22 PM

They both hold a world middle title and their previous match like last 7 games of both of them are win and there is no losses so I guess this will be a good fight. But Alvarez has advantage in terms of experience as he has 56 fights while Smith has only 27 fights. But the advantage of Smith is that he is undefeated, I will be looking forward if he can use it against to Alvarez in their upcoming fight.

Advantage wise you give it to canelo, but you also have to respect the challenger as they are more eager to win fight, and remember that upset is not new in boxing, it could happen anytime even coming from a non popular boxer.

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