Topic: ★ BQT & IOU - Bounty reward distribution issue has been solved ★ (Read 1738 times)

I will request all participants to follow below thread link to submit their payment related issues. I hope you guys be able to get all possible help about bounty reward distribution there.

Here is the link; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bqtxiou-bounty-issue-dispute-resolution-5189378

I participated in a content campaign, and I got 185 BQTX tokens for my work, but for now I haven't received my work, why ...?

this is my work : https://jeaniferr.blogspot.com/2019/02/bqt-social-p2p-crypto-exchange-and.html

I was in spreadsheet number 1949


Autohor    :  jeaniever rahardian

Profil     :  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jeaniever-rahardian-2447510

ETH addres :  0x42836bf737eC833228344f0841C3bD14f4D67643

Thanks mate for letting me know all this. Personally i believe its not gonna be fair to take anyone's side for this issue and both side need help from our community. At the very beginning when i ask them to start their reward distribution and their CEO shared to me what actually happened with them. I just give pressure to them for starting distribution process and it wasn't my work to dig the issue between them and zapo i think. After my proposal they gently get agree to release all participants reward and shared positive thinking about bitcointalk community. They told me that they respect our community members but maybe it was their bad luck that they couldn't find best manager for their project.

As a result they have made their distribution and send me confirmation text on my telegram. I have also suggested them to open another thread for bounty reward resolution and seen that they have already done this from their end.I think participants will be able to get further necessary help from there and team will provide instant solution on a regular basis.

How much more clearly something can be explained? I do not consider this case to be completely resolved, although you personally show great respect and gratitude towards BQT&IOU, and I don't think they deserved it. If you're wondering why, we can start with ignoring this community for months, by calling all participants of signature&bounty campaigns spammers&bots, refusal to divide all promised tokens, lies about supposedly 20 BTC paid for signature campaign, blocking people in Telegram who ask about payments... Where you see "deeply respect our community" in all this?


You're wrong, I was not a participant of their bounty, or any other bounty on this forum. I made this clear in my previous posts, as well as my personal reason for participating in this thread.

I was part of BQT bounty campaign (1 of the 16k you are referring to), and tbh I just saw your thread today. Well, that was because I was busy with my life outside the forum last August, but that doesn't mean I don't care. I was part of their telegram channel for bounty and read updates there from time to time. Like me, several participants may not be present here but are part of that.

Though, because it took too long, really long, I'm sure many participants already lose hope and just forget about it. Last May, BQTX team made a new Telegram channel for bounty, and from 657 members from the old group, only 180 joined.

Anyway, thank you for your help too and Coolcryptovator, xtraelv as mentioned by BQTX support.  

I will lock this topic very soon and hope you guys will provide better solution for participants reward distribution related issue until next 7 days.

I don't wanna waste my time for their personal payment related issue and maybe you think kinda same. Already given my suggestion to open scam accusation against zapo if they got enough evidences on their hand. Hopefully it's the best way by how they can prove their 20BTC payment related matter to community.

Sorry don't understand this part clearly dude. Will you please make it much clear?

It was my responsibility to make contact with team and give pressure to release their bounty payment. They have done it from their end and everything has already been discussed here. After zapo's inactivity whole thing got stuck and after opening this thread team make their response on this issue. As far as i know that you were one of their bounty participant too.

Most interesting thing is that after opening this thread i have got only few claim here and feeling really curious about that 16k participants. Maybe they are spending long holiday's or sleeping. So what more we could do for this kinda sleeping bounty hunters where they don't care about their own payments too.

What about the question of those 20 BTC paid for a signature campaign and calling all participants spammers and bots? No answer on that, it is a hard task to invent a new lie?

Personally, I find it funny that some members of this forum can be bought very easily, and that I read something like this:


The very fact that all this happened, clearly shows amateurism from BQT&IOU team, and more than obvious disregard for this community. You and some others literally had to beg for something, and all they say is how they pay huge money and then get only spammers&bots.

BQT&IOU invest less then 1.5 BTC in their signature campaign, until a few days ago it was all from their big investment here. I'm personally sorry for promoting their projects, as far as I can see, these are completely worthless tokens that like all other shitcoins, will bring profit only to those who started the whole thing.

For all bounty claims and dispute, we have created a thread here for the community. Please post all claims and dispute there

I wanna give thanks to every single member of our community who feel it necessary to spend their time on this thread. My only intention behind opening this thread was to connect participant and team together for fair distribution. Bounty participants will be glad to know that team has confirmed me about their final distribution. Every selected participant will get 50% extra on their wallet. Its been a couple of weeks that i have started my regular communication with team and there is no way to deny that they deeply respect our community. As a result they tried their best for start their bounty reward distribution as early as possible.

As a forum member i believe it was my responsibility to bring a proper solution for this issue and honestly it was not so easy to hold regular communication with team and bounty participants. I have already edited my thread title and always care about genuine crypto projects reputation.

Hopefully i will come back with another forum related unsolved issue soon. Till then everyone,,,,, Stay Alert, Stay Safe.


 

First off, we'd like to apologize for how our last communication to the community came across - frayed nerves and wits end. We've now come to understand that when dealing with decentralized entities to resolve conflicts, there's a lot of giving and taking involved. It was wrong of us to assume a finality to our stance rather than continuing to dialogue with the pillars of the community. To this end, we wish to tender our unreserved apology to Talkstar who never really gave up on us and continued to admonish us to do right by the community rather than focusing on grievances without. All the more remarkable when you consider the fact that he has no stakes in the bounty. His concern was for the community and doing right by the community first.

Our thanks also goes to Coolcryptovator for stepping in to listen to our side of the story and helping us come to an agreement on what is fair to both parties despite several hurdles. We also own xtraelv a mention for his previous guidance and mediation.

Hopefully, this is the beginning of a brand, new chapter with the community where our focus is now more hands-on rather than mediated/via proxy.

Thank you all for your various contributions, criticism, and feedback

Eventually BQT team has been agreed to distribute more 50% extra to who already received tokens. That means if someone got 100 BQT then he will received more 50 BQT token. There was lots of arguments about stake distributions. What understand from the team, they have bad experience with bitcointalk due to Zapo. Team were friendly enough to distribute stake but there was lack of management since Zapo was the one who should manage everything. Team went disappointed due to unexpected behaviour from Zapo and team isn't familiar with bitcointalk community.

However, I would like say thanks to TalkStar for raise up this issue. That's is really very rare case since he was not victim but tried to help forum users. So distribution credits goes to TalkStar.


From my side I tried my best to convince team but really I am unable to force them. Their claim also quite reasonable and it's true that there was so many fake/bot participants.

To ensure unpaid participants stake they are going to distribute fairly if there is legit participants. They will allow one week to dispute their stake. After a week no more dispute will granted, because it could not run for lifetime. And I have suggested them to open their own distribution thread and update on original bounty thread. So all unpaid legit participants should noticed and claim their stake. Personally I can't call them scammer since they already distribute stake and going to paid more 50% premium. On the other hand they will resolve valid dispute as they promise to me. They will explain why they reduce total stake on their thread. What I believe, they were not reduce stake if zapo continued his service.

They will start remaining 50% premium and unclaimed stake after resolve this thread. And obviously if they denied their promises I will open red flag number 4 since I have written evidence. Even I will flag related staff with BQT if they break their promises. So I think OP of this thread should edit this thread title since they already distribute stakes, so they will proceed remaining distribution works. So OP would mark it "Bounty Resolution" instead of scam.

I did maximum from my side whatever I could. If any DT or other user not agree with my decision then talk with team and solve this issue. For me I will consider this case solved after distribution of 50% premium and after completing dispute process as like I said above.


Eventually I want say, "something is better than nothing". Participants will not get anything if they like to skip from this forum. So at least participants will get something since they helped team to promote their ICO.


I am really disappointed from "spam hunters" even they are not aware about this thread although TalkStar updated on their Bounty thread. Really they do not deserve whatever done by me. Spam hunter just busy to spam on this forum.


If anyone have any comments feel free to share. I might be wrong, but I can't do anything else except to get rid of them from forum by scam flags and red tag.

I just noticed that a week ago IOUX tokens came to my wallet. For the IOUX bounty, I got 609 IOUX instead of 420 IOUX, as Zapo calculated. But I did not receive BQT tokens. As I wrote earlier, I had accruals both for Facebook and Twitter bounties. Now in the final table of the Facebook campaign, I am marked in red. I will try to contact them at https://t.me/BQTXBounty. If they answer me, then I will write here.

Eventually I had tried to contact BQT team through telegram. But from them someone so called community manager knock me, and there was so many arguments. Team want to pay 20% premium those already got stake and rest they will handle if there is claim about stake. But I have asked to distribute full stake those was allocated approx 500000 BQT. But they deny it and agree to pay 30% premium otherwise they will ignore this community. However, eventually I were agreed about 50% premium pay to paid participants, and those had not got token they might claim to their telegram and they will solve issue. But they are not agree about 50% premium pay for paid participants and they decide to ignore that community. According to them they haven't got output from this forum which is unrealistic and big lies to me.


So now, probably they will not pay anything more. Someone from victims should open flag number 3. And I will  support it and I will push up. Rest depend on hunters.

I know the bitcointalk account of community manager who is controlling BQTX support account. Both account handle by same person.

In your previous post, you claim that you pay 20 Bitcoins to Zapo for signature campaign/s, but I posted both addresses where the amount that participants received is less than 1.5 Bitcoin. Now you change the story to "we paid a lot", but you still avoid answering the question.

Here is official position of the company:

1. We paid a lot in SIG during campaign
2. We had issues with bounty spreadsheets left by Zapo
3. We hired an auditor and identified spam/bot traffic/etc and fixed the amounts per posts (paying 2000+ per post was clear mistake on rough spreadsheet Zapo managed as example and he did specify that before leaving)
4. And we actually paid the bounties to those that delivered while striked the others based on the spreadsheet which was consisted of LOTS of SCAM
5. If anyone has specific issue they can click on their link and dispute directly on telegram channel and we will act accordingly.
6. Stake budgets were advertised as total available but not as for distribution with multipliers and we stated it many times on telegram support channel to participants when inquired... a while ago.  It would be unfair for the company to have a bounty campaign full of scam so that later we would move scam stakes to others.  Company would never agree to that and would never start such a bounty.
7. We would be willing to pay 20% premium to those that undisputed in good faith in order to close this threat.  Otherwise let it be... we have done our best and done it in crypto winter while everyone was cheering and hungry... your choice if you would like to give legitimacy to BTT as a marketing tool or would like to prove once again that "no good deed goes unpunished".
8. Either way we are appreciative to those that honestly participated and delivered and wish those participants best of success.

Getting this addressed by the auditors. They initially claimed Zapo miscalculated... however, will get clarifications rather than vague recollections.

Will also like to thank you guys for actively investigating this too. If we'd known just how active the community here was, we probably would have gone through the community rather than the long-winded route we took

You have reduced rewards by 10 times! Look at the screenshots.

There is huge corruption on BQT Facebook campaign sheet, falsely marked 80% account as bot. Explain me about esprit man, his report still exist and working as well so why it was marked as bot? There is so many case like that.

Total bounty budget was 500,000 BQTX

You have distributed as below:
1. Facebook Campaign: 71534.4 BQTX  (14.3% of total budget) - It should be 166500 BQXT accordingly 33.3% of total stake
2. Twitter Campaign: 14304 BQXT (2.86% of total budget) It should be 166500 BQXT accordingly 33.3% of total stake
3. Telegram Campaign: 2686 BQTX (0.53% of total budget) It should be 66500 BQXT accordingly 13.3% of total stake
4. Content Campaign: 21090 BQXT (4.21% 0f total budget)  It should be 100000 BQXT accordingly 20% of total stake

So you distributed total 109614.4 BQTX which is 21.9% of total budget. Where is remaining 390385.6 BQXT which is 78.1% of total budget?

I think you aware about stake calculation. Its very simple, total budget will be divided by total stake so you will find how much token for each stake. And final distribution will be accordingly. Total budget you have to distribute among participant even you reduce total participant. There is no chances for excuse that there was not too much participant. There is still reasonable amount of participant to distribute full budget.

So, when you are going to distribute remaining amount 390385.6 BQXT which is 78.1% of total budget? 

Here are the links to the audited spreadsheets, color coded by the auditors

BQT: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PSQxHv6EnQaaSVWdYg4YzbiEKWbkwfBM/view?usp=sharing

IOU: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1alAtz60Fbmw9NYGFeOAjkj0oOTX1yg1Y/view?usp=sharing

I have got the same feeling like you Lucius and i am not happy with their explanation. I hope they will provide their final spreadsheet as soon as possible and hopefully after getting it everyone will be able to dig out the real thing.