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Maybe they are fleeing Argentina's poverty and superinflation? I imagine so, as it is very advantageous for them to play in the neighboring country, they will be somewhat close to their family and they also receive payment in a currency that is not as devalued as the Argentine Peso. There are many good players there who wouldn't have a place in big European teams, so the natural thing is that they look for a competitive league, but not top tier. In this case, the Brasileirão.
Hmm... that might be a possibility and I haven't thought about it.
I don't know what the situation is like in Argentina and I also don't know if football has been greatly affected compared to the Argentine population, especially the poor.
In Argentina they still have great and well-known teams such as Boca Juniors, Racing, Independiente, River Plate and others.

But I agree with what you said, the "Brazilian Real" is a more valued currency than the "Argentine Peso" and I won't deny it, in Brazil there are several teams as good as in Argentina
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I think it's very difficult to adjust the team in just 1 month, it takes months of work, it starts in the pre-season, so I believe the team will stay there without big aspirations in the championship, maybe it can even be in the top 10, at most.

I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.

I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol

And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.

Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America

https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml
The same for me... I'm also looking forward to the start of the Brasileirao  Smiley
Although this year we will have some surprises from teams that had been unable to make it to Series A of the Brazilian championship (Brasileirao) for years.
I confess that I found these statistics of foreign players in Brazilian football very interesting, I didn't know that there was such a significant number of South American players playing in Brazil.

An interesting fact is that 30.7% of the foreign players who will play in the Brasileirao are Argentinians, a significant number.

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Os argentinos representam a nacionalidade mais presente entre os reforços gringos contratados pelos times da elite do futebol brasileiro. São 16 entre os 52 estrangeiros - uma fatia de 30,7%.
source:Janela de transferências da Série A tem recorde de contratações de estrangeiros; veja lista


Maybe they are fleeing Argentina's poverty and superinflation? I imagine so, as it is very advantageous for them to play in the neighboring country, they will be somewhat close to their family and they also receive payment in a currency that is not as devalued as the Argentine Peso. There are many good players there who wouldn't have a place in big European teams, so the natural thing is that they look for a competitive league, but not top tier. In this case, the Brasileirão.
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I think it's very difficult to adjust the team in just 1 month, it takes months of work, it starts in the pre-season, so I believe the team will stay there without big aspirations in the championship, maybe it can even be in the top 10, at most.

I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.

I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol

And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.

Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America

https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml
The same for me... I'm also looking forward to the start of the Brasileirao  Smiley
Although this year we will have some surprises from teams that had been unable to make it to Series A of the Brazilian championship (Brasileirao) for years.
I confess that I found these statistics of foreign players in Brazilian football very interesting, I didn't know that there was such a significant number of South American players playing in Brazil.

An interesting fact is that 30.7% of the foreign players who will play in the Brasileirao are Argentinians, a significant number.

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Os argentinos representam a nacionalidade mais presente entre os reforços gringos contratados pelos times da elite do futebol brasileiro. São 16 entre os 52 estrangeiros - uma fatia de 30,7%.
source:Janela de transferências da Série A tem recorde de contratações de estrangeiros; veja lista
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Corinthians with the team they have is to compete for a place in CONMEBOL Sudamericana, perhaps with great luck a place in the CONMEBOL Libertadores, nothing more than that... Maybe something will change only if it has extra support from the field of our current president of the republic, who is a big Corinthians fan lol

If the coach manages to get the team right, it is possible to try for a place in the Sudamericana, since last year even 14th place managed to get a place in the Sudamericana hehehe, almost all the teams did it  Tongue
Corinthians failed to qualify for this year's state championship, and now it's crucial that the team makes its final changes. The team has about a month to work on building a competitive side for the Brazilian championship



I'm waiting for the end of the state championships to make my prediction for the 2024 championship
Will you do it too?


I think it's very difficult to adjust the team in just 1 month, it takes months of work, it starts in the pre-season, so I believe the team will stay there without big aspirations in the championship, maybe it can even be in the top 10, at most.

I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.

I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol

And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.

Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America

https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml
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I'm waiting for the end of the state championships to make my prediction for the 2024 championship
Will you do it too?
The same for me...
After all, there is almost a month left until the start of the Brasileirao.
I believe that with the results of the state championships we will already be able to have an idea of how some teams will perform in the Brazilian championship (Brasileirao).
In Paulistao (state championship in the state of São Paulo) we have Palmeiras, São Paulo and Bragantino in the Quarter Finals. I have no doubt that these teams I mentioned are great candidates to become Paulistao champions... and perhaps Brgantino could perform well in the Brasileirao and also Palmeiras...
And you guys? What are your bets?
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I'm not a football expert, but analyzing the Brazilian scenario in a superficial way, I believe that Corinthians will hardly be able to be champions of this year in Brasileirao, if they perform well, I imagine they will have a chance of finishing in the top 10 of that championship.

I have to agree with you, there's no chance of the title, unless there's a miracle (which I think is difficult in this kind of championship based in points)

Corinthians with the team they have is to compete for a place in CONMEBOL Sudamericana, perhaps with great luck a place in the CONMEBOL Libertadores, nothing more than that... Maybe something will change only if it has extra support from the field of our current president of the republic, who is a big Corinthians fan lol

If the coach manages to get the team right, it is possible to try for a place in the Sudamericana, since last year even 14th place managed to get a place in the Sudamericana hehehe, almost all the teams did it  Tongue
Corinthians failed to qualify for this year's state championship, and now it's crucial that the team makes its final changes. The team has about a month to work on building a competitive side for the Brazilian championship



I'm waiting for the end of the state championships to make my prediction for the 2024 championship
Will you do it too?
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Such a big team can't stay stagnant for so long
The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship
Look, this is true! Well, if I'm not mistaken, there were still chances of Corinthians being relegated and going to second division of Brasileirao, but that almost didn't happen. Regarding Santos, they didn't have the same "luck" as Corinthians and were relegated.
I'm not a football expert, but analyzing the Brazilian scenario in a superficial way, I believe that Corinthians will hardly be able to be champions of this year in Brasileirao, if they perform well, I imagine they will have a chance of finishing in the top 10 of that championship.

Corinthians with the team they have is to compete for a place in CONMEBOL Sudamericana, perhaps with great luck a place in the CONMEBOL Libertadores, nothing more than that... Maybe something will change only if it has extra support from the field of our current president of the republic, who is a big Corinthians fan lol
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Such a big team can't stay stagnant for so long
The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship
Look, this is true! Well, if I'm not mistaken, there were still chances of Corinthians being relegated and going to second division of Brasileirao, but that almost didn't happen. Regarding Santos, they didn't have the same "luck" as Corinthians and were relegated.
I'm not a football expert, but analyzing the Brazilian scenario in a superficial way, I believe that Corinthians will hardly be able to be champions of this year in Brasileirao, if they perform well, I imagine they will have a chance of finishing in the top 10 of that championship.
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The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).

From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference

My team (Internacional) managed to "meet the target" of expected signings and I'm satisfied with what they did compared to the financial budget they had available for this season... R$ 75 million (Brazilian currency).

If I'm not mistaken, they signed more then 10 players to reinforce the team and, as expected, their stance for this season is to have a very offensive team. They got left of 13 players, but the change of players aded more quality to Internacional.... I'm expected Cheesy

In 2023 the focus was on the Conmebol Libertadores, now in 2024 they will seek leadership of the Brasileirão, and I hope that this time they really achieve that instead of just being runners-up again.

Now, I'll wait and see how my team performs on the field.

Internacional invested a lot of money too, these current values of Brazilian football for me were something unimaginable 15/20 years ago, the vast majority of teams were bankrupt and full of debt... Revenue increased significantly compared to what it was in past...

A curiosity about Internacional, in Paraná (where I live), there are more Internacional and Grêmio fans than Atletico PR or Coritiba fans
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I think the same about Corinthians. He is making coaching changes but it ends up having no effect. They haven't played well for a long time and at least they give me some confidence.

Good coaches have come through Corinthians recently and none have worked out. Which makes me think that the problem is not so simple to solve


Yes, that's what I think too. But I'm worried because it's a great team and it's not performing as such. I can't imagine them winning anything again or even getting out of this current situation unfortunately.
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I think the same about Corinthians. He is making coaching changes but it ends up having no effect. They haven't played well for a long time and at least they give me some confidence.

Good coaches have come through Corinthians recently and none have worked out. Which makes me think that the problem is not so simple to solve

I believe that most of the problems facing Brazilian teams are amateur management and political conflicts within the club itself. I can't imagine anything else.

As I said above, I agree with you, I think the problem isn't just the coach or any player, but internal problems can affect the whole team a lot

I believe that Corinthians has been in a bad phase for some time, or rather, in stagnation.
Well, at least in the last few years they have managed to remain in Serie A of Brasileirao and qualified for the group stage of the Copa Sul Americana and Libertadores qualifiers. Let's see if Corinthians' performance this year will get worse or better.

Such a big team can't stay stagnant for so long
The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship

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The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).

From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference

My team (Internacional) managed to "meet the target" of expected signings and I'm satisfied with what they did compared to the financial budget they had available for this season... R$ 75 million (Brazilian currency).

If I'm not mistaken, they signed more then 10 players to reinforce the team and, as expected, their stance for this season is to have a very offensive team. They got left of 13 players, but the change of players aded more quality to Internacional.... I'm expected Cheesy

In 2023 the focus was on the Conmebol Libertadores, now in 2024 they will seek leadership of the Brasileirão, and I hope that this time they really achieve that instead of just being runners-up again.

Now, I'll wait and see how my team performs on the field.
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The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).

From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference

To tell you the truth, I'm very pessimistic, I support Corinthians, but the team is doing badly
They didn't even qualify for the Paulista championship, they've just changed coach and they still haven't managed to play well

If they continue playing like this, they'll be at the bottom of the championship and have no chance of at least making the top four to qualify for the Libertadores
I don't know how such a big team, with so much sponsorship money, can't get a competitive team

Who else here is pessimistic about the team for the Brasileirão?


I believe that Corinthians has been in a bad phase for some time, or rather, in stagnation.
Well, at least in the last few years they have managed to remain in Serie A of Brasileirao and qualified for the group stage of the Copa Sul Americana and Libertadores qualifiers. Let's see if Corinthians' performance this year will get worse or better.
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But hasn't this been going on for long time?
In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.

Flamengo went through a debt structuring and payment process that began with the administration of president Eduardo Bandeira de Mello in 2013, before it was a bankrupt team full of debt and now it is one of the richest clubs in South America. This change for more professional management resulted in Brazilian titles and 2nd place in the 2019 World Cup in the match with Liverpool.

All this time of instability is in the past, today are days of glory, always competing for titles, but without a doubt Palmeiras has done a little better, but it won't be forever (I hope so lol).



To tell you the truth, I'm very pessimistic, I support Corinthians, but the team is doing badly
They didn't even qualify for the Paulista championship, they've just changed coach and they still haven't managed to play well

If they continue playing like this, they'll be at the bottom of the championship and have no chance of at least making the top four to qualify for the Libertadores
I don't know how such a big team, with so much sponsorship money, can't get a competitive team

Who else here is pessimistic about the team for the Brasileirão?

I believe that most of the problems facing Brazilian teams are amateur management and political conflicts within the club itself. I can't imagine anything else.

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The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).

From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference

To tell you the truth, I'm very pessimistic, I support Corinthians, but the team is doing badly
They didn't even qualify for the Paulista championship, they've just changed coach and they still haven't managed to play well

If they continue playing like this, they'll be at the bottom of the championship and have no chance of at least making the top four to qualify for the Libertadores
I don't know how such a big team, with so much sponsorship money, can't get a competitive team

Who else here is pessimistic about the team for the Brasileirão?



I think the same about Corinthians. He is making coaching changes but it ends up having no effect. They haven't played well for a long time and at least they give me some confidence.
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The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).

From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference

To tell you the truth, I'm very pessimistic, I support Corinthians, but the team is doing badly
They didn't even qualify for the Paulista championship, they've just changed coach and they still haven't managed to play well

If they continue playing like this, they'll be at the bottom of the championship and have no chance of at least making the top four to qualify for the Libertadores
I don't know how such a big team, with so much sponsorship money, can't get a competitive team

Who else here is pessimistic about the team for the Brasileirão?

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Yes this's true. I believe that a large part of the prize pool comes from sponsors. I just can't say precisely what this percentage is, but it depends on the team and also on the sponsors, but as the Brasileirão is national championship, I have no doubt that the prize pool will be relatively high compared to other championships.

Talking about Palmeiras, yes, I also believe that they can be champion of the Brazilian championship in 2024, or at least be in the top 3. In recent years they have been a very consistent team and this is proven by their results, for example, in the In recent years, Palmeiras was champion of the Brasileirao in 2023, 2022 and 2018, in the years it was not champion (in the period I mentioned), it finished the championship in the top 3, only in the year 2020/2021 it finished in 7th place in the Brasileirao
It like that because every major competition or championship in every country is always part of various business companies to be able to market their names and also this will bring in large amounts of money from every match because the stadium will always be full of fans from every team that competes.
Distribution will be arranged by the organizer and of course the winner will definitely get number of prizes that they deserve, if it just about the title and championship trophy then I sure every team won't have the enthusiasm to win it.
After all, this is one of the most prestigious football competitions or luxurious competitions in Brazilian football.

Seeing how Palmeiras has developed this season, I see that there is still chance for them to defend their title, if that opportunity is lost and they fail then at least runners-up can still be achieved.
But Palmeiras is playing quite well and they are still the only team that is very consistent with quite good performance this season, their condition is still the same as last season when they managed to become champions.


Palmeiras is also the most successful team in this competition so there is possibility that they will win again and defend the title.


This is quite controversial, as several of these titles were gifts from the corrupt Brazilian entity called CBF, which decided to recognize championships played before 1971 (the first year of the Brazilian championship) as national titles. If it weren't for that, Flamengo would hold the most titles....

And now FIFA decides to send a document considering Palmeiras world champion in 1950 [1]. For me it's a joke.

Palmeiras doesn't have a world cup


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[1] https://www.espn.com.br/futebol/palmeiras/artigo/_/id/13313836/fifa-reconheceu-o-palmeiras-como-campeao-mundial-entenda-por-que-polemica-foi-reacendida-com-ata
But hasn't this been going on for long time?
In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.
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The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).

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Another controversial issue concerns Sport Clube do Recife's title in the 1987 Brazilian Championship, AKA Copa União... Where have you ever seen a team that won the second division be recognized as champions? Even with the club of 13 recognizing Flamengo's title... This was even a case of legal dispute in the supreme court.


more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Campeonato_Brasileiro_Série_A

I never imagined that this could happen and I thought that Sport would actually be the champion team of the 1987 Brasileirao.
I researched some Brazilian sports and legal websites about this.
The Federal Supreme Court of Brazil (Supremo Tribunal Federal STF) was called and, incredible as it may seem, they denied Flamengo's appeal and kept Sport as champions in 1987.

Source: STF nega recurso ao Flamengo, mantém Sport campeão de 1987 e São Paulo com Taça das Bolinhas
STF mantém Sport como único campeão brasileiro de 1987

The STF (Supreme Federal Court) resolving issues about football is the face of Brazil. I understand the merit, but the situation and the arguments about who gets which title are quite funny.

They should never have taken legal action in this case, that's what sports justice is for... Now imagine if this becomes a pattern? all the teams that feel unfairly decided to take legal action... This is Brazil. zil zil...

Anyway, I think this Sport title is very unfair, because the CBF was unable to organize the 87 championship, which was the responsibility of the club of 13... And we all know the end of the story.

Yes, it really is something very unusual to see and something very Brazilian. But I think that if many teams follow this path, they will act to avoid this type of discussion as there is no point in discussing titles in court.
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Another controversial issue concerns Sport Clube do Recife's title in the 1987 Brazilian Championship, AKA Copa União... Where have you ever seen a team that won the second division be recognized as champions? Even with the club of 13 recognizing Flamengo's title... This was even a case of legal dispute in the supreme court.


more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Campeonato_Brasileiro_Série_A

I never imagined that this could happen and I thought that Sport would actually be the champion team of the 1987 Brasileirao.
I researched some Brazilian sports and legal websites about this.
The Federal Supreme Court of Brazil (Supremo Tribunal Federal STF) was called and, incredible as it may seem, they denied Flamengo's appeal and kept Sport as champions in 1987.

Source: STF nega recurso ao Flamengo, mantém Sport campeão de 1987 e São Paulo com Taça das Bolinhas
STF mantém Sport como único campeão brasileiro de 1987

The STF (Supreme Federal Court) resolving issues about football is the face of Brazil. I understand the merit, but the situation and the arguments about who gets which title are quite funny.

They should never have taken legal action in this case, that's what sports justice is for... Now imagine if this becomes a pattern? all the teams that feel unfairly decided to take legal action... This is Brazil. zil zil...

Anyway, I think this Sport title is very unfair, because the CBF was unable to organize the 87 championship, which was the responsibility of the club of 13... And we all know the end of the story.
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