Topic: brave new world (Read 1750 times)
@supernovax: are you determined to necrobump every fucking thread in the forum?
I've used this a few times. If I don't have the votes to, say, move it to my city then I'll use my votes to give it to someone else and get a diplomatic boost.
Zero imagination you lot. Do I have to explain all the intermediate steps between a 49 million person minority and a 1 person minority? Dictators and kings are a minority -- they are considered special and wholly different from their peasant subjects. So stop being so closed-minded and stupid. 
right back at you.
right back at you.What I meant is this:
Hawkeye never mentioned a thing about dictatorship; he only said that 51% of a nation having control over 100% of the nation is unfavorable. Of course a Dictatorship is worse. Either systems suck. The best method is when one person has control over one person's life, their own, and only their own; by no other means can we achieve liberty, which, as you've shown, you're completely against, but that's okay because that's another argument which I won't go in circles with you again. By saying you're grasping at straws, I mean, you're taking something, twisting it into something else, and then attacking people on your modified version, essentially putting your words in his mouth, in the hopes that someone will argue with you so you can point out why the status quo is fuckin' rad.
Yeah, I want to be a dictator. I want to dictate my own actions. We all should want that.
Democracy leads to dictatorship. An economy gets wrecked, because of central planning which then makes the people ripe to want a leader to look after them. That process is happening right now in America and across the West. People are crying out for "leaders". People should consult history to see what that means. Do I need to mention how certain groups are getting demonised in society. This is all very reminiscent.
Power is dangerous. If we disperse power around society it becomes much less dangerous.
But I've said this before. If you feel safer in your own little commune or democratic type system group, if you want a leader/s, that's fine with me. Freedom of association. You just don't have the right to subsume me and my property into your system just because I live in the same general geographical area.
Democracy leads to dictatorship. An economy gets wrecked, because of central planning which then makes the people ripe to want a leader to look after them. That process is happening right now in America and across the West. People are crying out for "leaders". People should consult history to see what that means. Do I need to mention how certain groups are getting demonised in society. This is all very reminiscent.
Power is dangerous. If we disperse power around society it becomes much less dangerous.
But I've said this before. If you feel safer in your own little commune or democratic type system group, if you want a leader/s, that's fine with me. Freedom of association. You just don't have the right to subsume me and my property into your system just because I live in the same general geographical area.
Zero imagination you lot. Do I have to explain all the intermediate steps between a 49 million person minority and a 1 person minority? Dictators and kings are a minority -- they are considered special and wholly different from their peasant subjects. So stop being so closed-minded and stupid. right back at you.
right back at you.What I meant is this:
Hawkeye never mentioned a thing about dictatorship; he only said that 51% of a nation having control over 100% of the nation is unfavorable. Of course a Dictatorship is worse. Either systems suck. The best method is when one person has control over one person's life, their own, and only their own; by no other means can we achieve liberty, which, as you've shown, you're completely against, but that's okay because that's another argument which I won't go in circles with you again. By saying you're grasping at straws, I mean, you're taking something, twisting it into something else, and then attacking people on your modified version, essentially putting your words in his mouth, in the hopes that someone will argue with you so you can point out why the status quo is fuckin' rad.
With all of this in mind, it's hard not to simply
, because it gets old, and you do it a lot, whether or not you realize you're doing it. The feeling is mutual. It's beyond grasping straws at this point.
Zero imagination you lot. Do I have to explain all the intermediate steps between a 49 million person minority and a 1 person minority? Dictators and kings are a minority -- they are considered special and wholly different from their peasant subjects. So stop being so closed-minded and stupid.
right back at you. The feeling is mutual. It's beyond grasping straws at this point.
Maybe everyone gets to vote! massive voting system an all major issues, lets not have a Government because that implies we need governing like inmates, What we need is an administration to get done what the voters demand.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Isn't that just the tyranny of the majority? Who cares what 49% of people think, they should be forced to go along with what the 51% want?
God help you if you are in a minority group.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that democracies are better than dictatorships. So yeah, god help you if you want to be a dictator because I sure won't.
and this
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DEMOCRACY. The theory that two thieves will steal less than one, and
three less than two, and four less than three, and so on _ad infinitum_;
the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to
get it good and hard.
- H.L. Mencken three less than two, and four less than three, and so on _ad infinitum_;
the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to
get it good and hard.
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Autarchism (from Greek, "belief in self rule") is a political philosophy that upholds the principle of individual liberty, rejects compulsory government, and supports the elimination of government in favor of ruling oneself and no other. Advocates of the philosophy are autarchist (from Greek, "one who believes in self rule"), while the state in which everyone rules themselves and no one else is called autarchy (from Greek αὐταρχία autarchia, "state of self rule")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutarchismQuote
Ralph Waldo Emerson, although he did not call himself an autarchist, is considered to have espoused autarchy. Philip Jenkins has stated that "Emersonian ideas stressed individual liberation, autarchy, self-sufficiency and self-government, and strenuously opposed social conformity.".
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/30200/pg30200.txt
Maybe everyone gets to vote! massive voting system an all major issues, lets not have a Government because that implies we need governing like inmates, What we need is an administration to get done what the voters demand.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Isn't that just the tyranny of the majority? Who cares what 49% of people think, they should be forced to go along with what the 51% want?
God help you if you are in a minority group.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that democracies are better than dictatorships. So yeah, god help you if you want to be a dictator because I sure won't.
I don't know about you, but I don't need someone to steal from me to support my property rights. I can support them just fine on my own, and if it comes about that I do need a little help doing so, I am perfectly capable of voluntarily paying someone to help out.
Why do you assume that people who want their property rights supported would not desire that in a stateless society?
Why do you assume that people who want their property rights supported would not desire that in a stateless society?
I didn't say that. But I'd say that syndicalist structures are mostly just cheaper and more economic.
Maybe everyone gets to vote! massive voting system an all major issues, lets not have a Government because that implies we need governing like inmates, What we need is an administration to get done what the voters demand.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Isn't that just the tyranny of the majority? Who cares what 49% of people think, they should be forced to go along with what the 51% want?
God help you if you are in a minority group.
Give us an example of something that supposedly everybody in the country needs to vote on. I doubt such a thing actually exists.
This is why anarchists say that the best government is the one that governs the least. With Thoreau's going as far as to say that the best government is the one that doesn't govern at all.
Maybe everyone gets to vote! massive voting system an all major issues, lets not have a Government because that implies we need governing like inmates, What we need is an administration to get done what the voters demand.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Isn't that just the tyranny of the majority? Who cares what 49% of people think, they should be forced to go along with what the 51% want?
God help you if you are in a minority group.
Give us an example of something that supposedly everybody in the country needs to vote on. I doubt such a thing actually exists.
Maybe everyone gets to vote! massive voting system an all major issues, lets not have a Government because that implies we need governing like inmates, What we need is an administration to get done what the voters demand.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Isn't that just the tyranny of the majority? Who cares what 49% of people think, they should be forced to go along with what the 51% want?
God help you if you are in a minority group.
Give us an example of something that supposedly everybody in the country needs to vote on. I doubt such a thing actually exists.
Without state-supported property rights...
I don't know about you, but I don't need someone to steal from me to support my property rights. I can support them just fine on my own, and if it comes about that I do need a little help doing so, I am perfectly capable of voluntarily paying someone to help out.Why do you assume that people who want their property rights supported would not desire that in a stateless society?
Voting is just a tool. Also in capitalism, there are usually shareholders that vote.
Without state-supported property rights, society would self-organize in syndicalist structures, and workers would also vote on what to do with the surplus value of their production (reinvest in their own infrastructure or into something else, or allow higher wages, or improve their children's daycare, etc).
Without state-supported property rights, society would self-organize in syndicalist structures, and workers would also vote on what to do with the surplus value of their production (reinvest in their own infrastructure or into something else, or allow higher wages, or improve their children's daycare, etc).
Maybe everyone gets to vote! massive voting system an all major issues, lets not have a Government because that implies we need governing like inmates, What we need is an administration to get done what the voters demand.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Voting is force by proxy. If you stop assuming a monopoly, voting becomes unnecessary. Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Maybe everyone gets to vote! massive voting system an all major issues, lets not have a Government because that implies we need governing like inmates, What we need is an administration to get done what the voters demand.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
Brave new world based on a tamper proof voting system.
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