Topic: brave new world - page 2. (Read 1738 times)
Oh and your profit-driven prison systems. How are they payed for? Through forced taxation maybe?
Evolution starts out not great but then weeds out the bad stuff over time.
eg.
we don't have human sacrifice anymore
we don't have slavery anymore
we don't have inquisitions anymore
Government is just one more bad tradition that needs to be disposed of.
eg.
we don't have human sacrifice anymore
we don't have slavery anymore
we don't have inquisitions anymore
Government is just one more bad tradition that needs to be disposed of.
Seems to me that it's responsible governance that gets rid of slavery. Otherwise one starts getting things like:
- Profit-driven prison systems and a breakdown of whatever justice system is supposedly in play. The lower classes get sent to prison for relatively minor infractions (the judicial process still has to look legitimate when people aren't used to slavery), where they manufacture various goods.
- Vulnerable immigrants get conned into perpetually working off a debt that they accrued in exchange for "protection" or "insurance" while crossing the border.
Government has been around, what a few thousand years now?. Slavery abolished about 150 years ago? Seems like government has been a big supporter of slavery for the vast majority of history. In fact, how can you effectively have slavery if there isn't a govt police force to enforce it?
Vulnerable immigrants get conned because of the govt's attitude towards these people. They need protection from the govt, which is looking to throw them in jail and extradite them just for wanting to be productive members of society, and have to go looking to the only people willing to offer it for a price, the criminal underworld.
Evolution starts out not great but then weeds out the bad stuff over time.
eg.
we don't have human sacrifice anymore
we don't have slavery anymore
we don't have inquisitions anymore
Government is just one more bad tradition that needs to be disposed of.
eg.
we don't have human sacrifice anymore
we don't have slavery anymore
we don't have inquisitions anymore
Government is just one more bad tradition that needs to be disposed of.
Seems to me that it's responsible governance that gets rid of slavery. Otherwise one starts getting things like:
- Profit-driven prison systems and a breakdown of whatever justice system is supposedly in play. The lower classes get sent to prison for relatively minor infractions (the judicial process still has to look legitimate when people aren't used to slavery), where they manufacture various goods.
- Vulnerable immigrants get conned into perpetually working off a debt that they accrued in exchange for "protection" or "insurance" while crossing the border.
Evolution starts out not great but then weeds out the bad stuff over time.
eg.
we don't have human sacrifice anymore
we don't have slavery anymore
we don't have inquisitions anymore
Government is just one more bad tradition that needs to be disposed of.
eg.
we don't have human sacrifice anymore
we don't have slavery anymore
we don't have inquisitions anymore
Government is just one more bad tradition that needs to be disposed of.
Well, if 'revolutions' only changed things by 180 degrees, they would call them u-turns.
If I recall revolution is a 360 degree movement, then, are we supposed to in the same spot? Same situation?
If so, revolution is far from enough, we need something else.
bingo
Except that evolution has also brought about all the 'bad' stuff. Unless you want to blame god and creationism for all those pesky governments?
bingo
Well, if 'revolutions' only changed things by 180 degrees, they would call them u-turns.
If I recall revolution is a 360 degree movement, then, are we supposed to in the same spot? Same situation?
If so, revolution is far from enough, we need something else.
Well, if 'revolutions' only changed things by 180 degrees, they would call them u-turns.
If I recall revolution is a 360 degree movement, then, are we supposed to in the same spot? Same situation?
If so, revolution is far from enough, we need something else.
Well, if 'revolutions' only changed things by 180 degrees, they would call them u-turns.
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