Brave, the so called "privacy" browser now requires KYC! - page 3.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on July 31, 2019, 10:52:04 PM

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Not really, it all depends on your threat model and how high it's set.

How?
You will ask me to use duckduckgo.com for my search engine? I have no problem to use tor browser in fact I do use firefox with tor connection but asking me to use duckduckgo.com is boring.

I do not like it. The annoying part is that everytime when you are going to search for anything you are starting it from the scratch since the browser does not know anything about your interest, preference. I know that's the goal but these days we are so much addicted with technology that if you ask someone to add 122 + 123 (just picked some random number) then they will look for a calculator.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on July 31, 2019, 01:05:33 PM

it is worth noting that KYC is not requires if you use it as a browser

But the subject of this topic is: "browser now requires KYC!" Roll Eyes

well, i've already mentioned the problem in the last part but let me expand on it more.
the first time i heard about Brave browser in 2016 it was before it was even released. this browser was introduced as a way you could use bitcoin to both make payments to websites and get paid by them, first one to support them to run ad free and the second to see ads and earn money.

basically it focuses on 3 things:
- the privacy part (like Firefox, and since the dev is Mozilla co-founder which is also why i though the code is the same)
- ad blocking part (like popular ad-ons for Firefox,... like uBlock)
- the bitcoin (and then other cryptocurrency and then the BAT thing in 2018) integration part
people are already using the first 2 in other browsers, so the only reason why they choose Brave is the third option and if they enforece KYC on that then in my view they are practically enforcing it on all their users.

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I mean, it's not enforced. You just need KYC if you need to accept the payments. We can still freely use Brave with it's great privacy features without submitting KYC. A very slightly misleading title if you ask me.

While I think this is unfortunate and I don't like KYC as well, but in my understanding, as a registered and regulated company, they really have no choice as they're currently using UpHold. Hopefully this is just a "bandage solution" just to keep the system running right now. Not sure if they're allowed(by law) to distribute the BAT peer-to-peer, but I hope they would be in the future.

Quote from: BrewMaster on July 31, 2019, 01:05:33 PM

why would you want to use it after this and when there are good browsers like Firefox available which is the original code of this project?

Afaik the original codebase is from Chromium not Firefox.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on July 31, 2019, 01:05:33 PM

it is worth noting that KYC is not requires if you use it as a browser

But the subject of this topic is: "browser now requires KYC!" Roll Eyes

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 31, 2019, 01:23:21 PM

But these days it is really hard to protect your privacy.

Not really, it all depends on your threat model and how high it's set.

Quote from: TryNinja on July 31, 2019, 08:45:57 PM

Where did you see that? I'm using Brave right now and I don't see them asking for KYC anywhere. Actually, I just opened the rewards tab and they gave me free 4 BAT.

Found this on the 'community.brave' main page: https://community.brave.com/t/brave-rewards-user-wallets-a-significant-update/72340

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Where did you see that? I'm using Brave right now and I don't see them asking for KYC anywhere. Actually, I just opened the rewards tab and they gave me free 4 BAT.

edit: all I could find is KYC for publishers[1] (owners of websites that want to receive BATs)

[1] https://community.brave.com/t/uphold-kyc-know-your-customer-verification-is-now-required-in-order-to-receive-bat-publisher-payouts/42035

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A very disappointing move of Brave, I thought (hoped) it's an April fool Sad

Seriously, I don't get it why they require KYC out of nowhere... the amount of coins earned there is tiny and at least Brave can set a withdrawal limit per month / year where you can only withdraw that limit. Such a decision would be much better for a browser advertising for its privacy...
Are terrorists using brave Browser to fund their attacks? Or a criminals laundering money with Brave browser? Really?!

https://brave.com/
How could I enjoy private browsing with KYC?!
Big joke, nah!

A Browser advertising with privacy and then requiring KYC, isn't it a contradiction? Cheesy

Looks like I'm going to keep using Firefox...

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So tldr of this thread is everyone doesn't want to provide kyc for virtual currency, they never required it unless you want to be paid.

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One of my browsers that do seldom use.I have chrome,firefox,microsoft edge,IE,Opera and this one Brave.I have installed this one yet its getting been known and now they are asking KYC? Directly uninstalled when i do read up this thread.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on July 31, 2019, 01:05:33 PM

i just found out about it but apparently this has been the plan for some time now. it seems like it was first for publishers to gather BAT tokens and now it is to be enforcd for anybody who wants to use the wallet (Brave Rewards).

it is worth noting that KYC is not requires if you use it as a browser but the question rises, why would you want to use it after this and when there are good browsers like Firefox available which is the original code of this project?

i had uninstal my Brave Browser since they asking me doing KYC when using Uphold wallet. i had nothing to hide and honestly KYC needed to prevent someone from committing a crime , but bad news is when your Data being Sold? that's not a wise option.

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Really disappointing. I had Brave installed - it's not my main browser, and I don't use it that often, but I certainly had high hopes for its future and was impressed by some of the development that was ongoing. This, however, nullifies all of that. KYC for a company which was pushing their strong focus on privacy is ridiculous and unforgivable. I have already uninstalled.

For anyone thinking of switching away from Brave now (which you should, unfortunately), don't think about switching to Google Chrome. Even if you don't have a Google account, Google use Chrome to track literally everything you do online, and probably have enough data to link it to your real world identity, particularly if you've ever (even once) logged in to Facebook or any other account bearing your real name.

Firefox and Tor should remain your browsers of choice.

Quote from: BrewMaster on July 31, 2019, 01:05:33 PM

why would you want to use it after this and when there are good browsers like Firefox available which is the original code of this project?

Brave is based on Chromium, not Firefox.

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I always loved bat and brave browser. I just can't believe. I had to go the original website to be sure.

And yes, for content creators this is necessary (not for simple users). even if there is no fiat involved...
But even so, I would not support a Browser doig that. We don't need brave browser, I would support it of it ideology is compatible with mine, about a free and open internet. Which is not. Firefox is

And this is quite old , from November 2018 I saw people complaining in Reddit.

Lots of problems come from this. What about journalism in repressive countries? What's about people who write about cypherpunk moviment and want to stay anonymous?

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Quote from: BrewMaster on July 31, 2019, 01:05:33 PM

why would you want to use it after this and when there are good browsers like Firefox available which is the original code of this project?

I would not.
Lately I was considering to try Brave browser since I was hearing about it a lot but this came out of nowhere LOL

Normally I use Firefox which use tor connection. But these days it is really hard to protect your privacy.

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i just found out about it but apparently this has been the plan for some time now. it seems like it was first for publishers to gather BAT tokens and now it is to be enforcd for anybody who wants to use the wallet (Brave Rewards).

it is worth noting that KYC is not requires if you use it as a browser but the question rises, why would you want to use it after this and when there are good browsers like Firefox available ~~which is the original code of this project~~?

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