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Quote from: ajiz138 on February 14, 2024, 01:12:15 PM

Quote from: AprilioMP on February 13, 2024, 05:45:03 AM

Using the Brave browser both on iOS and Android mobile devices is very helpful and in my opinion, those who are new or have not used the Brave browser for a long time feel that there is a difference from using Chrome.
It turns out that the Brave browser has a crypto token/coin called Basic Attention Token (BAT) which can be a reward for its users.

The Brave browser is smoother than other browsers but it's only a short time to try this browser and then move on to Chrome which has been a comfort since forever.

Comparison of using different browsers. Using the Brave browser on an Android mobile device can be easier and smoother if you change it to desktop mode. Easy and smooth depending on the user. If users are more comfortable when using Chrome, of course Brave is no better than the Chrome browser. This situation also applies to me who is more comfortable with chrome.

Quote from: ajiz138 on February 14, 2024, 01:12:15 PM

This browser does have a BAT Token at the beginning they distributed tokens to users, if I'm not mistaken, I had to KYC at Uphold.

Apart from BAT Token, Brave browser also provides VPN but it requires some requirements, but I didn't try it.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on February 13, 2024, 05:45:03 AM

Regarding wallets, a wallet that has been proven to be good for storing coins is enough. When it comes to altcoins, I trust wallets like Unstoppable more than browser wallets. For Bitcoin, Electrum, Bluewallet which I believe are software wallets.

I don't really believe in wallets directly from the browser better than other more trusted software wallets, but so far I prefer Metamask but for Bitcoin more to Electrum.

I don't use Metamask and wallet directly from the browser. Unstoppable for the altcoin wallet I use.
Electrum favorite wallet for Bitcoin.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on February 14, 2024, 04:57:22 AM

As far as I've read, this browser is open-source. However, if you look at history, I would not trust the browser, especially using the wallet in this browser.
Remember, he collected donations without the knowledge of the recipients. And also sold copyrighted data or DNS data: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/brave-privacy-bug-exposes-tor-onion-urls-to-your-dns-provider/
I can't find all sources, but I remember that there were discussions about this on the Internet. What else the browser can come up with is unknown; all that is known is that it is primarily interested in money, not privacy.

I am having a different understanding of things here. So, it can be an open source and not also trusted. I have thought that all open source code platforms are trusted because the codes are maintained by the public or it is merely visible to the public.
I have learnt something important. Being open source does not mean that it is decentralized and it also does not mean that everyone will participate in decision making.
So, it can be open source and still not safe.

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I don't consider a browser a safe environment for a wallet. Browsers need frequent updates and fixes for a reason. Browsers are utterly complex pieces of software with a multitude of bugs and issues waiting to be exploited rather sooner than later.

If you want or need to use Dapps, so be it. Put only as much value in browser wallets that you can afford to loose, one way or another.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on February 12, 2024, 05:55:52 AM

Brave browser used to shill itself as a browser for privacy, focus on privacy of users.

You know, later, they request their users to KYC to claim $BRAVE token. They destroyed their slogan for their browser business so I already give you information about the Brave browser and their team's product development. It's your responsibility and turn to take it into account and think, can you trust Brave browser?

Privacy focused Brave browser now requires KYC, time to fork?

I didn't even finish doing KYC because I only got a few #BATs. But it does destroy its own brave slogan by implementing KYC. I'm still loyal to chrome and never use Brave again. Moreover, Chrome is always updated and all plugins run normally. Just use chrome for all the forum activity I do, don't want to switch to something else even if it looks like it has more features or whatever.

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Hmm, As seniors said EVM and other chain wallets require connectivity to the Daps so their integration with the Browser seems a bit worth considering but Bitcoin wallet is unnecessary I would say, for the Airdrop farming and another testnet task I can use the integrated wallet for once but for my regular DeFi activity and funds holding using such Integrated hot wallet is not anything else than a stupidity.

Please mostly prefer cold storage to avoid phishing attacks on their assets integrated wallets provide room for such attacks, and destroy all your security precautions. I'll say be very careful while choosing such a wallet. it might cost you alot.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on February 13, 2024, 05:45:03 AM

Using the Brave browser both on iOS and Android mobile devices is very helpful and in my opinion, those who are new or have not used the Brave browser for a long time feel that there is a difference from using Chrome.
It turns out that the Brave browser has a crypto token/coin called Basic Attention Token (BAT) which can be a reward for its users.

The Brave browser is smoother than other browsers but it's only a short time to try this browser and then move on to Chrome which has been a comfort since forever.
This browser does have a BAT Token at the beginning they distributed tokens to users, if I'm not mistaken, I had to KYC at Uphold.

Quote from: AprilioMP on February 13, 2024, 05:45:03 AM

Regarding wallets, a wallet that has been proven to be good for storing coins is enough. When it comes to altcoins, I trust wallets like Unstoppable more than browser wallets. For Bitcoin, Electrum, Bluewallet which I believe are software wallets.

I don't really believe in wallets directly from the browser better than other more trusted software wallets, but so far I prefer Metamask but for Bitcoin more to Electrum.

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As far as I've read, this browser is open-source. However, if you look at history, I would not trust the browser, especially using the wallet in this browser.
Remember, he collected donations without the knowledge of the recipients. And also sold copyrighted data or DNS data: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/brave-privacy-bug-exposes-tor-onion-urls-to-your-dns-provider/
I can't find all sources, but I remember that there were discussions about this on the Internet. What else the browser can come up with is unknown; all that is known is that it is primarily interested in money, not privacy.

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Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:02:05 PM

I was making use of CHROME app while posting on Bitcointalk (BCT, BTT) but I was having some difficulty then I installed BRAVE browser app and I saw this, so I checked it was just a browsers crypto wallet. I checked and this was what I saw

Out of the 5 stars, open source has one star. What does this mean? Does it really mean that it is a closed source code or an open source code. Maybe to know this, we need to know whether or not the brave browser is an open source browser. If the browser is open source, the wallet will likely be open source too.

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Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:02:05 PM

Other reason why the browser wallets are not good because they can get hacked, notwithstanding that other wallets can get hacked also but on a contrary the browser wallets are easier to hack as any one can or might use the browser on your phone and still have access to the wallet on it without your consent.

I don't really follow your logic there. Sure, any wallet could theoretically be hacked, but being accessible doesn't automatically make something more hackable. Just 'cause someone can use your browser doesn't mean they can access your wallet - Strong passwords, encryption and proper browser security still play a crucial role in protecting your funds..

That's what I have to say as well. Just because someone can use your browser doesn't mean that they can hack it. But the first set of security is that you should ensure people don't have an idea where your wallet is. If they can relate that there's a fund there, it will become a target.

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Using the Brave browser both on iOS and Android mobile devices is very helpful and in my opinion, those who are new or have not used the Brave browser for a long time feel that there is a difference from using Chrome.
It turns out that the Brave browser has a crypto token/coin called Basic Attention Token (BAT) which can be a reward for its users.

Regarding wallets, a wallet that has been proven to be good for storing coins is enough. When it comes to altcoins, I trust wallets like Unstoppable more than browser wallets. For Bitcoin, Electrum, Bluewallet which I believe are software wallets.

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Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:02:05 PM

I was making use of CHROME app while posting on Bitcointalk (BCT, BTT)

Its more preferably that you call it BTT or btt as the use case may be, this is the shorted abbreviation whereby we can use to refer to the forum bitcointalk.org

Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:02:05 PM

but I was having some difficulty then I installed BRAVE browser app and I saw this, so I checked it was just a browsers crypto wallet. I checked and this was what I saw

I've seen some people using a centralized exchange and they were introduced to another kind of wallet by that same exchange that is decentralized, they will say all manner of English to make the propaganda for their agenda on making people believe that such wallet is decentralized of which is not, as for the use of brave browser, i like it so much but wouldn't recommend anyone for using their wallet because if its a non custodial wallet, then there's high probability of being a close source, when you can easily make use of other wallet types that are non custodial and close source.

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Brave browser used to shill itself as a browser for privacy, focus on privacy of users.

You know, later, they request their users to KYC to claim $BRAVE token. They destroyed their slogan for their browser business so I already give you information about the Brave browser and their team's product development. It's your responsibility and turn to take it into account and think, can you trust Brave browser?

Privacy focused Brave browser now requires KYC, time to fork?

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I have Brave Browser but never have the guts to use this instead, I; 'd keep this as a browser only.
Electrum wallet does so well, so no need I have to try a new one. We are talking about security here and I was not sure how safe is these browser wallets and extensions. I won't say don't use browser apps but have to take it cautiously. It was more secure when we really had full control of wallets like having personal key/passwords, especially if we plan to store more funds for a long time.

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Either it's Bitcoin wallet or not, I don't recommend using any browser with crypto wallet integrated, because one could be safe to use but not the other, browsers are not always safe to use normally, because you don't know what's in the next page you decide to surf, in browsers every thing is possible to go wrong, codes can be run in the background by the devs without you even knowing.

The feel of decentralized and privacy is absence, for me at least, because we trust bitcoin wallets that are open source and non-custodial I believe it won't be the same using a browser with crypto wallet integrated.

That feel of safety is lost, plug-ins for chrome browser and mozilla are unsafe, yea metamask is running as one on these browsers but I've never left $100 worth of crypto in my metamask wallet, I use it and dump it the fastest I could, still not giving me the safety vibe, it's just me, I would rather run a metamask app on my phone than on PC, don't take my words for it, this is my own feeling with browsers and crypto wallets.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on February 11, 2024, 12:25:40 PM

Imho Bitcoin users are a bit more security conscious than altcoin users.
And having a wallet in browser pretty much asks for troubles.

It's really not that. Ethereum/etc users need their wallets on their browser to be able to connect to apps; at least that's the most common way to connect to apps. Some wallets now have their own downloadable wallet software that has its own browser.

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I think I've seen this as an ad but it didn't made me use at all. I use the browser itself because it's helping me to avoid ads.

But if it's about web3 and other chains supporting browser wallet, my only to-go wallet is Metamask. It's all for those many chains and been trusted by the majority.

Maybe it will take time until the Brave browser wallet will be trusted. Whilst the service itself as a browser is a good one.

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Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:02:05 PM

I checked the browser wallets and I tried to figure out some appurtenant features about the browser wallets but I noticed that Bitcoin wasn't among, so this makes me ask WHY? Although, you can check the browser wallet to see if Bitcoin is hidden somewhere that I couldn't find.
Thanks.

I never heard that there is a Browser Bitcoin wallet if there is one then it is not safe to use and most browser wallet extension that I can find on Google are mostly custodial wallet like other said "not your keys, not your coins".

And mostly like other said here the browser wallet on brave browser is for web3 usually defi and NFT games that needs to connect to a browser wallets.
Maybe on Metamask wallet you can see wrapped Bitcoin there but that's not a real Bitcoin it is a Ethereum based token supported by metamask wallet.

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Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:41:20 PM

I get the point now. However a Bitcoiner have to look forward for more secured wallet than browser wallets as the browser wallets doesn't provide good security features to guide the support of Bitcoin but can secure altcoins with 80% of securities.
Meanwhile, Bitcoiners who's knows the importance of securities wants 100% secured wallet for themselves.

Where did you get those percentages from? Are there actual reports of Brave Wallet hacks to back up this claim?
Brave Software is a reputable company with many excellent developers and years of experience, Im pretty sure they wouldnt create something like that and put it on the market if it had security flaws.

Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:41:20 PM

This is absolutely what I am talking about as I haven't find it any on a CHROME browser.

That is why there are wallets as extensions and plugins for other browsers. Without them, there would be no Web3 and communication with decentralized applications would be much more difficult.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on February 11, 2024, 12:25:40 PM

Imho Bitcoin users are a bit more security conscious than altcoin users.
And having a wallet in browser pretty much asks for troubles.

What I see is that altcoin investors are already risk takers or should we say gamblers because investing in Altcoins is less security itself so probably most of them don’t care much about it and most of them invest some amounts that they can lose compare to bitcoin which they put heavily amount into and have to take extra precautionary measures. Another is reason is that most of them only have this wallets to actually buy those tokens from because they need to connect to DApps to actually use them. Most of this tokens can hardly be found on secure wallets and they just have to do with this browser wallets.

Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:41:20 PM

This is absolutely what I am talking about as I haven't find it any on a CHROME browser.

Yes chrome doesn’t have this kind of functionality but it is the browser that mostly acts as extension for most of this wallets example is the phantom wallet for Solana blockchain and Kepler wallet for the Celestial blockchain. Which still acts as same as what that brave browser does but it is more or less an extension for them

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The wallet in Chrome,Brave or Kiwi,Mises(Mobile browser) are for web3 purpose where we have to connect wallet with web3 sites for claiming NFT,oat and gaming purpose. Electrum is just for Storing and sending purpose and no doubt the more secure than browser wallet but if we need to connect wallet them browser wallet is good option.

Other people cannot got access to our fund even of they get our phone because these wallets need login password which is totally unrecoverable and other option is only entering seed phrase so we can say that security is also not week here even though not much secure like Electrum.

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Quote from: Su-asa on February 11, 2024, 12:02:05 PM

Other reason why the browser wallets are not good because they can get hacked, notwithstanding that other wallets can get hacked also but on a contrary the browser wallets are easier to hack as any one can or might use the browser on your phone and still have access to the wallet on it without your consent.

I don't really follow your logic there. Sure, any wallet could theoretically be hacked, but being accessible doesn't automatically make something more hackable. Just 'cause someone can use your browser doesn't mean they can access your wallet - Strong passwords, encryption and proper browser security still play a crucial role in protecting your funds.

Take MetaMask as an example and millions of users have trusted that browser extension wallet for ages now. It's not somehow more hackable just 'cause you access it in your browser versus a standalone app or something. At the end of the day how vulnerable a wallet really is comes down to the precautions taken by both the developers and the actual users. So accessibility on its own doesn't say much. Theres a lot more to the security equation than that.

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