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legendary
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July 03, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
#63
Try this tax attorney. Free initial consultation. Couldn't harm.

http://www.bitcointaxsolutions.com/
i have been calling this guy for a week. i sent emails and left messages. no answer and no response.



Our previous investors at DFJ referred us to Orrick for all legal proceedings. For taxes,

http://www.orrick.com/Lawyers/Charles-C-Cardall/Pages/default.aspx

They are very high-tech and high-end.  Work with all major entities in the valley.
this guy said he only works for non-profits and government agencies. i asked him if he can recommend a colleague who can help me. he said they don't really work for individuals they specialize in big corporations. he also said his hourly rate is $900 an hour and his colleagues rate will be the same. his advice was to talk to a CPA cause they can probably better help with an individuals taxes for under $500.
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June 27, 2014, 02:44:57 AM
#62
Imo taxation will kill BTC

not. would be contrary
newbie
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June 27, 2014, 02:31:12 AM
#61
Imo taxation will kill BTC
legendary
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June 27, 2014, 02:00:03 AM
#60
Our previous investors at DFJ referred us to Orrick for all legal proceedings. For taxes,

http://www.orrick.com/Lawyers/Charles-C-Cardall/Pages/default.aspx

They are very high-tech and high-end.  Work with all major entities in the valley.
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
#59
for sure
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June 26, 2014, 10:24:41 PM
#58
Be sure to let us know how you go. I for one am very interested in how this pans out.
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 10:09:04 PM
#57
LOL - thank you sir. i'm gonna call this guy tomorrow and will let you guys know what he has to say.
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June 26, 2014, 09:47:31 PM
#56
Try this tax attorney. Free initial consultation. Couldn't harm.

http://www.bitcointaxsolutions.com/
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 08:22:20 PM
#55
lawyers don't introduce new laws, but i know what you're saying. i have a criminal lawyer but he told me it's not his thing talk to a CPA. what kind of lawyer do you suggest i talk to?
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 08:18:26 PM
#54
best of luck to you.  i suggest you talk to lawyers instead of accountants. accountants obey the law and organize. lawyers flex and bend it while introducing new ones.

i'm off to see the new transformers movie. i hear it's pretty good.

edit: rotten tomatoes tells me it sucks. never mind..
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 08:03:27 PM
#53
now that i am over your arrogance and looked at this i don't consider your advice smart but it is amusing. i honestly don't want to give the government shit. but i don't want to give up my citizenship or flee the country either.

what's even funnier than your advice is the wiki says even if you renounce your country the US charges a fee to do so and you have to liquidate all your assets and pay income tax on it before you leave - LOL

so realistically, if somebody is really considering this, renouncing your citizenship is pointless, it's best to just leave.
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
#52
i'm just saying, if you don't like his advice then ignore it.
good advice, but my problem wasn't his advice. it was his arrogant/smart ass comments that got me going. but whatever i am over it. i'm not trying to keep it going. peace love and all that good shit.

here's a kissy face for you too.   Kiss Kiss Kiss
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
#51
you may find my posts arrogant, and sure they kinda are, but your topic applies to everyone mining and investing in bitcoin. bitcoin and taxes. so maybe my posts will help another user. just saying.

and about knc scamming you and not sending you a refund, well, that happens all the time. most people scammed lose their money forever. i lost a lot in mtgox and i don't see it ever coming back.
well, i'm glad you can admit you can be kinda arrogant. that makes me feel better. truth is, i can be an asshole too. but i don't talk to people like an asshole unless they have given me reason to. try not to be a dick to people who have not given you reason to. your go give the government all your money to piss away comment crossed the line a bit. it was not necessary at all.

and i know what you mean, shit happens people lose money and life goes on. but what really got under my skin was you being a smart ass in this post and then you start posting in my other thread to be a smart ass there too. it's like common dude don't follow me around and dig in my ass. nobody likes that.
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June 26, 2014, 07:09:47 PM
#50
are you kidding me? this guy is telling me to leave the country i'm being dumb and to give the government all my money to piss away. he is being a dick so i treat him like a dick.

i'm just saying, if you don't like his advice then ignore it. but you are publicly asking for advice.

he is right, that is an option, I was reading that people are denouncing citizenship in droves from the US government. there is those islands where you can buy land on the island to get full citizenship and get full access to all eu countries.
can't recall all the details right now but it is something people do and you don't have to leave the US physically to do it. and yes it is all legal and above board.

EDIT: here you go: http://passportsforbitcoin.com/

Edit2: and more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renunciation_of_citizenship
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 06:57:47 PM
#49
look, i know what you're saying. but you post here as if i haven't been doing my homework and what the 3 CPA in my country are telling me is incorrect and you know better. you are right you didn't name call but you are being arrogant and then you top it off with don't take my advice go piss away your money. common dude, that's not very cool either. what kind of response do you expect? you don't have to name call to be a dick.
you may find my posts arrogant, and sure they kinda are, but your topic applies to everyone mining and investing in bitcoin. bitcoin and taxes. so maybe my posts will help another user. just saying.


and about knc scamming you and not sending you a refund, well, that happens all the time. most people scammed lose their money forever. i lost a lot in mtgox and i don't see it ever coming back.
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 06:55:18 PM
#48
look, i know what you're saying. but you post here as if i haven't been doing my homework and you know better than the 3 CPA's i've talked to. you are right you didn't name call but you are being arrogant and then you top it off with don't take my advice go piss away your money. common dude, that's not very cool either. what kind of response do you expect? you don't have to name call to be a dick.
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 06:51:44 PM
#47
being an asshole isn't nice and it's not exactly good PR for somebody who is trying to create a BTC marketplace. somebody as smart as you should know public relations is pretty important for a startup business.

hey i never called you names. i just disagreed with your actions. if i were you i would seek the best legal method to nullify my taxes or reduce them as much as possible.  orrick is the best lawfirm in the business to accomplish this. their lawyers aren't cheap ($600-900/hr) but they get the job done. i've worked with them in the past on a IP case. they also specialize working with tech companies.

i already had a startup business and sold it. and had to deal with the same tax issues.  now i live retirement.

edit: i never told you to leave the country. i just told you what one wealthy billionaire did to avoid paying huge taxes to a single government.  there are legal methods to reduce your taxes, sometimes down to zero.

and yes, our government (i'm a US citizen) pisses away a lot of my tax money on things I do not support, like bailing out the horrendous US auto industry. i like to believe the fittest deserve to live, the weak deserve to die. clearly the incompetence of the US auto industry caused it to self destruct and I find it criminal they can get a bailout from our government -- using OUR tax dollars.
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 06:49:49 PM
#46
are you kidding me? this guy is telling me to leave the country i'm being dumb and to give the government all my money to piss away. he is being a dick so i treat him like a dick.
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June 26, 2014, 06:46:43 PM
#45
Web Slicer, I suggest you stop attacking the people of whom you are asking advice and accept it or leave it. you are not helping your cause by being so grumpy and abusive.
legendary
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June 26, 2014, 06:45:11 PM
#44
being an asshole isn't nice and it's not exactly good PR for somebody who is trying to create a BTC marketplace. somebody as smart as you should know public relations is pretty important for a startup business.
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