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Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds - page 104. (Read 277012 times)

legendary
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They aren't even trying, anymore. Saturday a holiday (what?) and tiny Sunday results in advance...and with a $10 plus spread all day. They don't seem to even care about giving the appearance of legitimacy anymore, which begs the question...why continue the charade?

May 3 National Holiday (May-3rd-Constitution Day—Święto Konstytucji 3 Maja) is a Polish national and public holiday that takes place on May 3.


At least we know where this ponzi owner is from now.


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Saturday   May 3   Labour Day Holiday   China
Saturday   May 3   Constitution Memorial Day   Japan
Saturday   May 3   Constitution Day   Poland
Saturday   May 3   Spring and Labor Day Holiday   Russia
Saturday   May 3   Cross Day   El Salvador
(actually above are all May 3 '14 holidays, but I think Poland is most likely?)


Too bad you never trusted my judgement, FreeJack
full member
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They aren't even trying, anymore. Saturday a holiday (what?) and tiny Sunday results in advance...and with a $10 plus spread all day. They don't seem to even care about giving the appearance of legitimacy anymore, which begs the question...why continue the charade?

They must be still getting deposits in, only reason to keep up any charade. Can be as short as a week or two or it can be a few months of keeping up a charade.
sr. member
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They aren't even trying, anymore. Saturday a holiday (what?) and tiny Sunday results in advance...and with a $10 plus spread all day. They don't seem to even care about giving the appearance of legitimacy anymore, which begs the question...why continue the charade?
member
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Well surprisingly I did receive my funds today finally after waiting about 4 days (.86 btc)...Keep it up btc-arbs and I will buy you a salmon to smoke for your next cocktail bash.
full member
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Here is the latest bull shit.


It has been a busy weekend for the Global Capital Alliance and BTC-Arbs. Multiple legacy transfers have been completed, many full balance transfers have been made, support tickets are being resolved and withdrawals are being paid. Today's arbitrage result is 0.54%.
full member
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I am sending daily support tickets it seems asking where are the results and the legacy transfers, they never respond to the ticket but seem to update the results not long after I e-mail them..... This is all so ridiculous.
newbie
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I like many others have nearly the entire amount stuck in "legacy account" and have not received one reply since the "acquisition". Only thing I get now is pitiful legacy account transfers that I am not making anything off of. I don't give 2 shits right now what the results bring if I am not getting credit for what was already deposited and should be rightfully able to withdraw at any time instead of this legacy runaround.

Seems to me like a gox going on and we are all getting the shaft. Waiting this whole time on my 1.16BTC to transfer out of legacy over the course of two years is not going to cause me to invest with them ever again.
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Well if it all goes bad. it's not just my loss is it :] all our loss combined is whats up.

We'll see how it ends, then perhaps people per country can team up and press charges.

For now I just hope we all get our BTC back, even if it's not much. It's still our money, not theirs. If we do nothing we get nothing.

Yes, I agree. But as yonce has outlined earlier its difficult if not impossilble to trace these guys - they always got away with it.

it is a lost cause, one hyip game goes offline another one takes its place. The only people that ever want to pursue them after being scammed are the ones who didn't know they were playing a hyip. Never pans out.
sr. member
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Well if it all goes bad. it's not just my loss is it :] all our loss combined is whats up.

We'll see how it ends, then perhaps people per country can team up and press charges.

For now I just hope we all get our BTC back, even if it's not much. It's still our money, not theirs. If we do nothing we get nothing.

Yes, I agree. But as yonce has outlined earlier its difficult if not impossilble to trace these guys - they always got away with it.
newbie
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Well if it all goes bad. it's not just my loss is it :] all our loss combined is whats up.

We'll see how it ends, then perhaps people per country can team up and press charges.

For now I just hope we all get our BTC back, even if it's not much. It's still our money, not theirs. If we do nothing we get nothing.
sr. member
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newbie
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Hi all,

I'm new to the forums and I just felt I had to post my epxerience with BTC-arbs so far and my actions taken.

I Invested 0.6346 on 28/03/2014. So far I have aboot 0.8 ish. But like you I have 0.7944 stuck in legacy.
I've also sent them a support ticket and got the same basic reply as some others have here.

From   administrator
Sent on   April 26th 2014
Thank you for your message. As the new owners of BTC-Arbs we are happy to hear from you and are interested in hearing any suggestions that you may have. We are aware that the "Legacy Fund" method of doing things isn't ideal for some members, however it is the best way to ensure that all of our books are in order as we begin to move forward. As you will see, we have already started to transfer a portion of the Legacy Funds back to the main balance. Furthermore, we have processed all withdrawals that we have received.

We would appreciate your patience during this transition. A manual verification of the funds within the system is necessary, particularly due to the fact that there were a number of issues that arose as a direct result of the Heartbleed bug.

Further information regarding this transition will be provided in the coming days, along with information about our acquisition of an official investment license.

Sincerely,
Ron James & The Global Capital Alliance
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DraxonNL on 26/04/2014 15:12:38
The legacy transfer is taking way too long. You get to trade with the legacy funds but you only pay out over the meager small new balance. This isn't really fair. Please transfer all the funds. As atm I can't even withdraw the legacy funds if i'd want too.


My patience is wearing thin as you can understand.
So I took it upon me to try and figure out what is really happening.

First I tried to track the origin of the website. But Whois is masking most of the data, but still if it all goes to shit we know where to look for the real data... Or at least the FBI will now. Here is the all the information I could get from tracking the IP.

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So I've sent an email to both [email protected] and [email protected] asking for more information regarding the site, Ron James and the CGA.

I've also followed up on a clue on this website http://www.imaginegrow.com/business-growth-strategy.php, as someone else here posted they mention the GCA. The people running this site seem legitimate people that run legitimate businesses.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanhoggan
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericbjohnson20

These two men run imaginegrow.com.

Now i've sent them a mail inquiring about Ron James and the CGA as neither of them really have any hits on the interwebz.

I'll keep you posted on any new info I get about these people and their companies and any replies I get from them.

I really hope we don't all get shafted and if we do I really think we need to work together and find the bad guys. I still have hope that nobody will get screwed but tbh. It's hard to keep hope.
sr. member
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Dude, sorry, but to me, "potential scam" is way too soft for btc-arbs. I deposited 35 btc. Now have 49+ btc in legacy (btc-arbs : account is lmiko). They made tiny transfers to normal and all together, I got back 2,8btc out of it since the beginning. I know that i should have been more careful... To my opinion, you should put in bold letters something like "100% SCAM - 100% AVOID". And saying that I know that I could probably say goodbye to my btc... As only new deposit could guarantee my transfers...


So mate, please tell, when did you made your last deposit, is it during the heartbleed attack? Like 3 or 4 weeks from now? Checking the support ticket, the HeartBleed Bug was occurred around 11 April. It is like 3 or 4 weeks from now. Having said this, I am not a believer about BTC-arbs' problems and takover stories. I am more convinced that they are just story to scam people. But why don't they just disappeared for good - Like LEANCY did. Well as some of U have say this is because they want to scam some more deposits. Well, anyway I am more of a conservative/pessimistic person, i err on the negative aspects all the time.  Also, maybe arbitrage trading is also a story. Perhaps btc-arbs & other HYIP programs are just purely stories that suck people in. Having said this, I am currently involved in two other HYIP programs, but I just played with them around the minimum deposits allowed, and I only choose to play with HYIP programs that allowed low deposits amount

It is obvious people, all HYIP websites are the same. By now, I am sure people who had participated in btc-arbs and seen many other HYIP websites. U can easily distinguished that, can U? The answer to this question is, if the website simply have info. about investment plans to lure people to give your BTC / $ to them and U will get over 100% in returns. Then these websites are simply offering a HYIP services. So there U are people! It is really easy to tell whether a website is HYIP or not. A legit website do not just contain these info., eg. comparing to a legible website, such as a bank, they are involved in more than one products.

I was so surprised to read lately that people are reporting that they have made so much deposits into the website - over 1 BTC. Anyway, if people do really paid attention to the wordings within this whole thread, especially the OP, I don't think they should have made those deposits in the first place.
newbie
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I'd like to ask why the OP updated the thread title today to something that almost sounds like it is trying to divert the attention from the scam status that btc-arbs is?

Well, I agree with you. Noticed it this morning.

It looks like he got his BTC back so it is less of a scam for him.

I just saw those updates also in the main post of this thread. His update for May 3rd says he got a tiny withdrawal a few days prior. The thread title really needs to say flat out SCAM DO NOT INVEST. I do also see a referral link with his username in the main post, so no doubt the btc-arbs admin made a priority selective payout on his account.

Agree, it's obvious.


No it's not, I did not withdrawal any of my BTC, But is just that my account no longer have LEGACY TRANSFER FUND. This is because for weeks, I have not made any deposits into the account. I think this is why my balance got transfer back to my NORMAL balance so soon. Also, I did not invest a lot of BTC in the site. Now, my accounts look and function like before the takeover - no more LEGACY TRANSFER FUND & is earning the daily interest.  

Now, can you people confirmed to me, when did U last made deposits into your accounts? Did U made any deposits in the last 4 weeks or 3 weeks before the takeover or during the heartbleed attack? If U did, then this is probably is the reason why it takes longer for the fund to transfer  back to your NORMAL balance. Well this is my logics about the situation on LEGACY TRANSFER FUND.

If U people want me to change the title of the thread to that, then I will do that. That's me, I do not like to profit at other people's expenses. I also like this to be vice versa. Nor should U be profiting @ my expenses.

Dude, sorry, but to me, "potential scam" is way too soft for btc-arbs. I deposited 35 btc. Now have 49+ btc in legacy (btc-arbs : account is lmiko). They made tiny transfers to normal and all together, I got back 2,8btc out of it since the beginning. I know that i should have been more careful... To my opinion, you should put in bold letters something like "100% SCAM - 100% AVOID". And saying that I know that I could probably say goodbye to my btc... As only new deposit could guarantee my transfers...
sr. member
Activity: 294
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I'd like to ask why the OP updated the thread title today to something that almost sounds like it is trying to divert the attention from the scam status that btc-arbs is?

Well, I agree with you. Noticed it this morning.

It looks like he got his BTC back so it is less of a scam for him.

I just saw those updates also in the main post of this thread. His update for May 3rd says he got a tiny withdrawal a few days prior. The thread title really needs to say flat out SCAM DO NOT INVEST. I do also see a referral link with his username in the main post, so no doubt the btc-arbs admin made a priority selective payout on his account.

Agree, it's obvious.


No it's not, I did not withdrawal any of my BTC, But is just that my account no longer have LEGACY TRANSFER FUND. This is because for weeks, I have not made any deposits into the account. I think this is why my balance got transfer back to my NORMAL balance so soon. Also, I did not invest a lot of BTC in the site. Now, my accounts look and function like before the takeover - no more LEGACY TRANSFER FUND & is earning the daily interest.  

Now, can you people confirmed to me, when did U last made deposits into your accounts? Did U made any deposits in the last 4 weeks or 3 weeks before the takeover or during the heartbleed attack? If U did, then this is probably is the reason why it takes longer for the fund to transfer  back to your NORMAL balance. Well this is my logics about the situation on LEGACY TRANSFER FUND.

If U people want me to change the title of the thread to that, then I will do that. That's me, I do not like to profit at other people's expenses. I also like this to be vice versa. Nor should U be profiting @ my expenses.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Under no circumstances should anyone deposit any funds to btc-arbs.com

It is a ponzi scam. They are prolonging the operation to obtain more deposits and have stolen previous deposits under the guise of a legacy account (that people can't withdraw from).

CORRECT...no one shouldnt deposit before everybody here have confirm their withdrawals.

I got my withdrawl today, but I still have a boat load stuck in legacy and would never deposit back into btc-arbs! I did deposit some money into bitcoin-trader.biz though.


That's good to hear lesnod11 - U got some of your deposit back. Hope U can get it all back + the interest that U have earned.
legendary
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That btw terminate my BTC travel here.... was a fun experience... lost a lot of money, not willing to try it again. Eventually once BTC gets better "securities" with a more trustworthy community i guess i ll try again.

Bitcoin has nothing to do with btc-arbs. Bitcoin with its blockchain is a great piece of technology and I'm sure it has a bright and a long future ahead. Will the value of BTC rise? Who knows, personally I bet it will. Will BTC die as a payment method? Never. Maybe in a long-term future when another crypto will take over.
Exactly. The idea of bitcoin is to have a trust-less payment method where you don't need to trust the bank or government. Trusting your bitcoins with a pretty obvious ponzi site operated by complete anonymous strangers, is pretty much the opposite of the principles of bitcoin.
newbie
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That btw terminate my BTC travel here.... was a fun experience... lost a lot of money, not willing to try it again. Eventually once BTC gets better "securities" with a more trustworthy community i guess i ll try again.

Bitcoin has nothing to do with btc-arbs. Bitcoin with its blockchain is a great piece of technology and I'm sure it has a bright and a long future ahead. Will the value of BTC rise? Who knows, personally I bet it will. Will BTC die as a payment method? Never. Maybe in a long-term future when another crypto will take over.
full member
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No getting back on track. Even in the most amazing circumstances that they all paid everyone back to today - the instability of this HYIP would be so ridiculously unpredictable. You really wouldn't be able to tell what direction it would blow into. There just shouldn't even be the discussion of such instability / not paying people 8 weeks into a program that has taken so much in deposits. Really pisses me off...
sr. member
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Yeah only tiny legacy balances are being transferred...trying to give the impression things are getting back on track.
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