Is the mail [email protected] working my friend write to this email for refounds, but there was no replay?!
Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds - page 68. (Read 277012 times)
June 07, 2014, 02:14:55 AM
June 07, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
There seems to be a misunderstanding with how the refunds are working. I have a portion of the Bitcoins. The rest was stolen. I am now using the remaining bitcoins to earn additional coins and then repay everyone their full investment.
If I could pay everyone in full right now I would. I cannot.
If I was a scammer I would not be here. I'm not.
Complaining about it won't speed it up. Sending me messages like this nice one that was received right now "I rape you and your entire family unless give coins back now" also does not help.
More payments will be sent soon.
If I could pay everyone in full right now I would. I cannot.
If I was a scammer I would not be here. I'm not.
Complaining about it won't speed it up. Sending me messages like this nice one that was received right now "I rape you and your entire family unless give coins back now" also does not help.
More payments will be sent soon.
Yes, the threats of violence and stupid crap like that need to stop. There will be legal recourse available at some point if he doesn't follow through with the refunds, but he appears to be working on it. The alternative is a lengthy class action which would likely require at least a year. I'm willing to do that, if it comes to it...but I would prefer to simply be repaid my principal and call it a lesson learned.
People are angry, as am I, but let's conduct ourselves civilly and let him go about the process of making restitution.
June 06, 2014, 11:47:34 PM
I made a few updates to the spreadsheet.
I indicated the 'user' column is for the bitcoin talk username with btc-arbs username in brackets. People appear to have been using either. Please include your bitcointalk username at minimum so we can communicate as needed.
I indicated that the amount owed should subtract any withdrawals you were successfully able to make from btc-arbs.com
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lSUi0_1bqe0sv5XI4EvXWPcWI7fwnJbFQY-kMsYxp10/edit?pli=1#gid=1324696940
I indicated the 'user' column is for the bitcoin talk username with btc-arbs username in brackets. People appear to have been using either. Please include your bitcointalk username at minimum so we can communicate as needed.
I indicated that the amount owed should subtract any withdrawals you were successfully able to make from btc-arbs.com
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lSUi0_1bqe0sv5XI4EvXWPcWI7fwnJbFQY-kMsYxp10/edit?pli=1#gid=1324696940
June 06, 2014, 11:08:20 PM
There seems to be a misunderstanding with how the refunds are working. I have a portion of the Bitcoins. The rest was stolen. I am now using the remaining bitcoins to earn additional coins and then repay everyone their full investment.
If I could pay everyone in full right now I would. I cannot.
If I was a scammer I would not be here. I'm not.
Complaining about it won't speed it up. Sending me messages like this nice one that was received right now "I rape you and your entire family unless give coins back now" also does not help.
More payments will be sent soon.
If I could pay everyone in full right now I would. I cannot.
If I was a scammer I would not be here. I'm not.
Complaining about it won't speed it up. Sending me messages like this nice one that was received right now "I rape you and your entire family unless give coins back now" also does not help.
More payments will be sent soon.
June 06, 2014, 10:18:12 PM
I agree that the pace needs to pick up. I am not the largest at 9 BTC invested... but I am close to the top and haven't received ANYTHING!!! This is getting frustrating to say the least!!!
A little more communications from BTC-Arbs would be appreciated.
A little more communications from BTC-Arbs would be appreciated.
June 06, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
Not today. Thus far I've received payments on the 31st, 2nd and 5th. A very slow pace (too slow for him to meet the deadline he agreed to with me, right now) and not seeing a lot of other people on the list being satisfied, either. The pace really needs to pick up, soon.
June 06, 2014, 07:21:53 PM
Did anyone on this board get refunded today? Or even get any money for that matter?
June 06, 2014, 05:07:36 PM
PM and mail sent.
here is my content
I deposited 35 BTC and received back 4,3951 BTC BEFORE shutdown. Nothing received yet afterwards.
My account was at 49 BTC when shutting down.
My address : blablabla...
04/03/2014 17:15 Bitcoin deposit for 20.0000 bitcoins completed [Ref: bitcoin_GGM1ahuw]
04/03/2014 07:44 Account updated
04/03/2014 07:40 Bitcoin deposit for 15.0000 bitcoins completed [Ref: bitcoin_ElRnvMcf]
04/03/2014 07:35 Account created
here is my content
I deposited 35 BTC and received back 4,3951 BTC BEFORE shutdown. Nothing received yet afterwards.
My account was at 49 BTC when shutting down.
My address : blablabla...
04/03/2014 17:15 Bitcoin deposit for 20.0000 bitcoins completed [Ref: bitcoin_GGM1ahuw]
04/03/2014 07:44 Account updated
04/03/2014 07:40 Bitcoin deposit for 15.0000 bitcoins completed [Ref: bitcoin_ElRnvMcf]
04/03/2014 07:35 Account created
Damn...finally, someone who had more invested than I did. Welcome to the club :/
Go open up this Google Docs spreadsheet we're maintaining and input your username, the amount of principal you're currently owed (looks like 30.6) and we can keep track of it that way.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lSUi0_1bqe0sv5XI4EvXWPcWI7fwnJbFQY-kMsYxp10/edit#gid=1324696940
June 06, 2014, 04:27:38 PM
PM and mail sent.
here is my content
I deposited 35 BTC and received back 4,3951 BTC BEFORE shutdown. Nothing received yet afterwards.
My account was at 49 BTC when shutting down.
My address : blablabla...
04/03/2014 17:15 Bitcoin deposit for 20.0000 bitcoins completed [Ref: bitcoin_GGM1ahuw]
04/03/2014 07:44 Account updated
04/03/2014 07:40 Bitcoin deposit for 15.0000 bitcoins completed [Ref: bitcoin_ElRnvMcf]
04/03/2014 07:35 Account created
here is my content
I deposited 35 BTC and received back 4,3951 BTC BEFORE shutdown. Nothing received yet afterwards.
My account was at 49 BTC when shutting down.
My address : blablabla...
04/03/2014 17:15 Bitcoin deposit for 20.0000 bitcoins completed [Ref: bitcoin_GGM1ahuw]
04/03/2014 07:44 Account updated
04/03/2014 07:40 Bitcoin deposit for 15.0000 bitcoins completed [Ref: bitcoin_ElRnvMcf]
04/03/2014 07:35 Account created
June 06, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
I have no problem with Yonce, he has given us quite a lot of good insight into this HYIP culture.
Turns out the yonce might have a lot of insight into HYIP admins because the claim is that he is the admin for FinMutual.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yonce-exposed-also-known-as-finmutual-admin-626622
Even if he is something less than that, he has been linked to an old alias dominicwin by Tomatocage a hero member with high trust. It is interesting that the trust flames by dominicwin & yonce do follow the same patterns of flaming people that don't agree with him.
Even if none of that is true, a lot of information has come out in this thread with yonce's multi-week sparring with crazyivan.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527395.400
The one thing that can be sure is that yonce is pushing an agenda that is probably only good for yonce. While it is toned down from when he first appeared with the yonce alias, he spurts out some real nasty comments from time to time, including:
I need to start a bitcoin arbitrage trading story based HYIP. Suckers everywhere STILL...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6810852Man.... this again??? While younce is a total waste, because it's clear he has nothing better to do than wander around pounding his chest and making this thread his 'I told ya so' trophy (I'm going off old info since I have him ignored and what little I read from him seems much less antagonizing) - your constant barrage on him that just comes out of left field does nothing to better the situation and in fact is getting old. Just put him on ignore and let him throw out blocked messages. Either that, or take it offline with him and you two can hammer out your differences and that lets this thread stay on subject!
Amen (to most lol), though I could care less about butt hurt dyask and hammering out "my differences with him". Just like admins will come to this forum and do anything they can to discredit me, so will annoyed people who attacked me when I called out btc-arbs and the site scammed shortly after. btc-arbs was nothing more than a quick cash grab.
June 06, 2014, 10:15:33 AM
if you've been trying to contact her moderator
June 06, 2014, 10:14:26 AM
More refunds paid. Another 1 coin sent to freejack. Not all refunds that were paid are from members who actively post here. Many are from emails.
Good for freejack but once again, how come if he isn't paying someone off in full does he give some a little bit of coin and the rest of us nothing?
When did you request it? I have no idea how he is determining it except that I assume he is trying to pay people off completely whenever he has the funds (depending on how he did that day, assuming you believe he is arbitrage trading and I still tend to believe he is) and narrow down the number of people left. I would probably do it that way if I were doing it, rather than giving everyone a tiny cut of the total.
I'm sure over time, he will get it sorted out...nobody is going to let him off the hook and it seems like he knows that, or he wouldn't be here doing this. Let's see how it goes over the coming weeks. From my point of view, he is currently using my money (and that of the other "whales") to do his earning and pay people back...which is okay, as long as people ARE paid back and I am not made to wait an unreasonable amount of time to be repaid. As I said before, he committed to 20-40 days with me and that is what I expect to see. He will get through these repayments, I'm sure this is not a noose he wants hanging around his neck.
What I'm interested in is: In the end, when he has enough BTC earned to cover all the expenses, will he pay all users off in one final batch, OR: is he going to pay us his everyday's arb profit until he paid everyone off, leaving him with the 500BTC?
I think it's best and quickest if he does the following:
If he has 500BTC now, there are (for instance) 100 stolen, he keeps up the arb business to close the 100BTC gap and pay everything to everybody.
There is no stolen BTC. It is a lie. The btc-arbs admin is a HYIP admin, the excuses are ages old.
June 06, 2014, 10:10:54 AM
Man.... this again???
Probably just frustration on my part on not being one of the people ever to get refunded their deposit. Point taken.
So because you are frustrated about your deposit in btc-arbs you decide to hurl more accusations at me? Thanks for admitting that finally.
Anyways the person was nothing more than a HYIP admin who was butthurt about me calling out his programs. I strongly believe the 1 post account created to just accuse me of random shit was the admin of oilrigcontractors.
People love to grasp for straws... Anyways I WELCOME more accusations of whatever else and I will stay steadfast in calling out shit as shit. Unfortunate people are as gullible as they are here. Call a spade, a spade get hated on for it, then when a site scams, still get hated on lol. But makes sense if you are frustrated that I called out btc-arbs for what it was before it went scam, and now your pissed "I told ya so".
And tomatocage is nothing more than a pawn of a HYIP admin for just giving me negative trust because a butt hurt HYIP admin created an inflammatory thread and account about me. He (the one post accuser) also admitted to him being an admin to me via PM. The amount of gullible people on this forum is astounding! I'll be expecting more BTC scams and more HYIP admins taking advantage of BTC'ers.
June 06, 2014, 03:49:47 AM
More refunds paid. Another 1 coin sent to freejack. Not all refunds that were paid are from members who actively post here. Many are from emails.
Good for freejack but once again, how come if he isn't paying someone off in full does he give some a little bit of coin and the rest of us nothing?
When did you request it? I have no idea how he is determining it except that I assume he is trying to pay people off completely whenever he has the funds (depending on how he did that day, assuming you believe he is arbitrage trading and I still tend to believe he is) and narrow down the number of people left. I would probably do it that way if I were doing it, rather than giving everyone a tiny cut of the total.
I'm sure over time, he will get it sorted out...nobody is going to let him off the hook and it seems like he knows that, or he wouldn't be here doing this. Let's see how it goes over the coming weeks. From my point of view, he is currently using my money (and that of the other "whales") to do his earning and pay people back...which is okay, as long as people ARE paid back and I am not made to wait an unreasonable amount of time to be repaid. As I said before, he committed to 20-40 days with me and that is what I expect to see. He will get through these repayments, I'm sure this is not a noose he wants hanging around his neck.
What I'm interested in is: In the end, when he has enough BTC earned to cover all the expenses, will he pay all users off in one final batch, OR: is he going to pay us his everyday's arb profit until he paid everyone off, leaving him with the 500BTC?
I think it's best and quickest if he does the following:
If he has 500BTC now, there are (for instance) 100 stolen, he keeps up the arb business to close the 100BTC gap and pay everything to everybody.
June 06, 2014, 02:19:44 AM
Man.... this again???
Probably just frustration on my part on not being one of the people ever to get refunded their deposit. Point taken.
June 06, 2014, 02:02:07 AM
I have no problem with Yonce, he has given us quite a lot of good insight into this HYIP culture.
Turns out the yonce might have a lot of insight into HYIP admins because the claim is that he is the admin for FinMutual.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yonce-exposed-also-known-as-finmutual-admin-626622
Even if he is something less than that, he has been linked to an old alias dominicwin by Tomatocage a hero member with high trust. It is interesting that the trust flames by dominicwin & yonce do follow the same patterns of flaming people that don't agree with him.
Even if none of that is true, a lot of information has come out in this thread with yonce's multi-week sparring with crazyivan.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527395.400
The one thing that can be sure is that yonce is pushing an agenda that is probably only good for yonce. While it is toned down from when he first appeared with the yonce alias, he spurts out some real nasty comments from time to time, including:
I need to start a bitcoin arbitrage trading story based HYIP. Suckers everywhere STILL...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6810852Man.... this again??? While younce is a total waste, because it's clear he has nothing better to do than wander around pounding his chest and making this thread his 'I told ya so' trophy (I'm going off old info since I have him ignored and what little I read from him seems much less antagonizing) - your constant barrage on him that just comes out of left field does nothing to better the situation and in fact is getting old. Just put him on ignore and let him throw out blocked messages. Either that, or take it offline with him and you two can hammer out your differences and that lets this thread stay on subject!
June 06, 2014, 01:12:22 AM
I have no problem with Yonce, he has given us quite a lot of good insight into this HYIP culture.
Turns out the yonce might have a lot of insight into HYIP admins because the claim is that he is the admin for FinMutual.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yonce-exposed-also-known-as-finmutual-admin-626622
Even if he is something less than that, he has been linked to an old alias dominicwin by Tomatocage a hero member with high trust. It is interesting that the trust flames by dominicwin & yonce do follow the same patterns of flaming people that don't agree with him.
Even if none of that is true, a lot of information has come out in this thread with yonce's multi-week sparring with crazyivan.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527395.400
The one thing that can be sure is that yonce is pushing an agenda that is probably only good for yonce. While it is toned down from when he first appeared with the yonce alias, he spurts out some real nasty comments from time to time, including:
I need to start a bitcoin arbitrage trading story based HYIP. Suckers everywhere STILL...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6810852 June 06, 2014, 01:03:11 AM
Well, I didn't receive an email reply, either. I just had it acknowledged in a post on the forum and I had a brief discussion via PM to clarify what I could expect in terms of repayment timeframe, before pursuing legal satisfaction and contact those who have offered information to that end. So I'm giving him the time he asked for and we will just see. I'm pretty sure the sub-1btc folks most likely won't be waiting as long.
Still I'm not following.... I've had no PM discussion or response, I haven't even had a fart in my direction since the site shut down. Like I said before; paying people off in full I can understand, but if he is paying small amounts to one person, he should be trying to do that to all. To me it looks like he pays off the small people who are a large number to dim the noise from the crowd and feeds the large folks who could give him the most legal trouble and those of us in the middle get the shaft.
June 06, 2014, 12:06:21 AM
How much of that was your principal investment? He's trying to refund everyone their principal first, not including interest earned. Too many people are owed money...so only request principal for the moment.
That would take me a long while to figure out as I sent fractional btc on a daily basis for some time........something I guess I will need to have to look at unfortunately, shitty deal.
June 06, 2014, 12:01:54 AM
Well, I didn't receive an email reply, either. I just had it acknowledged in a post on the forum and I had a brief discussion via PM to clarify what I could expect in terms of repayment timeframe, before pursuing legal satisfaction and contact those who have offered information to that end. So I'm giving him the time he asked for and we will just see. I'm pretty sure the sub-1btc folks most likely won't be waiting as long.
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