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Topic: /btc is full of Hypocrites and Shills (Bitcoin Classic) - page 3. (Read 3311 times)

legendary
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I'm not surprised anymore as things there are out of control. Either they want to take down person X, company Y or do something ridiculous as that.

What is their next step? Calling for core users to be put in a gulag? I would not be surprised.
They are totalitarians, with anti-human, anti-liberty ideas, and certainly anti-free market.
The comment section has a lot of stuff that newcommers definitely need to avoid. Basically, this has become a group of people who are fixated with the idea that "Core/Blockstream" needs to go (seemingly, they are one and the same for the majority of them).
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I think the OP is spot on by callyng them hypocrites, because that's what their behavior makes them to look like. The mob mentality many people that support classic seems make them follow whatever Gavin spews at them after saying that Core devs are evil and only he can save bitcoin adoption.

It's even worse than that, now it's evident that some people there are totalitarian communists, that use censorship and propaganda to move their agenda.

What is their next step? Calling for core users to be put in a gulag? I would not be surprised.

They are totalitarians, with anti-human, anti-liberty ideas, and certainly anti-free market.

I would avoid any contact with a classic supporter, their mad ideas are contagious.
legendary
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Now they want to erase /r/bitcoin entirely! fucking lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4djmlc/i_want_to_ask_the_redditcom_admins_to_erase/

This while their top atm post bashes someone for saying that bitcoin is not a democracy...

They are totalitarian scum, and they have the guts to call us totalitarian? It's just lunacy.

It's just pure maddness what goes on there. Bitcoin classic supporters must be mentally ill or something to not see through their leaders agenda, or they are consciously supporting it.


Note his username is: utopiawesome, they are nasty communists!
I think the OP is spot on by callyng them hypocrites, because that's what their behavior makes them to look like. The mob mentality many people that support classic seems make them follow whatever Gavin spews at them after saying that Core devs are evil and only he can save bitcoin adoption.
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Now they want to erase /r/bitcoin entirely! fucking lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4djmlc/i_want_to_ask_the_redditcom_admins_to_erase/

This while their top atm post bashes someone for saying that bitcoin is not a democracy...

They are totalitarian scum, and they have the guts to call us totalitarian? It's just lunacy.

It's just pure maddness what goes on there. Bitcoin classic supporters must be mentally ill or something to not see through their leaders agenda, or they are consciously supporting it.


Note his username is: utopiawesome, they are totalitarian communists!
legendary
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Now they want to erase /r/bitcoin entirely! fucking lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4djmlc/i_want_to_ask_the_redditcom_admins_to_erase/

This while their top post bashes someone for saying that bitcoin is not a democracy...

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4dh3b2/as_adam_back_is_about_to_show_up_in_prague_to/

Arcive of the sub now: https://archive.is/mD8YP
hero member
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Its never too good that few people have too much power. Just sayin.
Its dangerous for bitcoin even when this people thinking their action are good for bitcoin... they can be wrong  Undecided

I am usually paying more than 15.000 satoshi/ transaction and I have never once complained about the fees. I think they are fair, given how important bitcoin is for humanity.

But the classic supporters are constantly moaning about a 2500 satoshi fee, like 5 year old crybabies. No wonder nobody takes them seriously.
legendary
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Its never too good that few people have too much power. Just sayin.
Its dangerous for bitcoin even when this people thinking their action are good for bitcoin... they can be wrong  Undecided
legendary
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Things changed, Bitcoin Classic has very ambitious roadmap to my opinion (even though part of the features are from other teams like Bitcoin Unlimited), but if they deliver their roadplan as promised, Bitcoin Classic can help progressing Bitcoin in the right direction.
No. This roadmap has nothing specific on it. Additionally, they don't have evidence that support that dynamic block size limit proposal right now. That could end terribly if not properly designed and tested.

I agree, the way things turned out lead many "fanatics" to communities that were supposed to be neutral. As a result places like /r/btc are now extremely one sided and favor a certain hard fork without any wilingfulness to make compromises. Behaviors like that only make bitcoin's image to the outside world worse and slow down progress. I wish that more people from /r/btc would work on proposals and be open to discussion instead of trying character assassination against Core supporters. 24/7
It is not just the unwillingness to make compromises. The main problem for which the subreddit is useless is that they're being constantly negative and constantly use ad hominem and whatnot to undermine several people (e.g. Core developers as you've mentioned). Usually, anyone who disagrees with their view will get bashed.
legendary
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Well they think that they have the solution to move bitcoin forward, however they way that they try to promote their agenda is by spreading FUD. Like that's going to work somehow. It's a double edged sword and they might cut themselves with that strategy.

I agree, the way things turned out lead many "fanatics" to communities that were supposed to be neutral. As a result places like /r/btc are now extremely one sided and favor a certain hard fork without any wilingfulness to make compromises. Behaviors like that only make bitcoin's image to the outside world worse and slow down progress. I wish that more people from /r/btc would work on proposals and be open to discussion instead of trying character assassination against Core supporters. 24/7
sr. member
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Well they think that they have the solution to move bitcoin forward, however they way that they try to promote their agenda is by spreading FUD.
Indeed. Garzik had a backroom meeting with the miners and they've declined support (IIRC) as Classic does not have a long term plan in addition to not having an adequate team of developers.

Things changed, Bitcoin Classic has very ambitious roadmap to my opinion (even though part of the features are from other teams like Bitcoin Unlimited), but if they deliver their roadplan as promised, Bitcoin Classic can help progressing Bitcoin in the right direction.

If anybody not familiar with Bitcoin Classic roadmap and is interested to check it, here is the link:
https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/documentation/blob/master/roadmap/roadmap2016.md
legendary
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Bitcoin Classic would start implementing marxist BIPS in notime if they would get in charge, and would start redistributing coins as well.
Initially it was promoted as Bitcoin Core with a 2 MB block size limit patch, and now they've started implementing some strange features (SPV mining). Obviously the advertising was misleading ad best.

Its hard for new people to grasp everything that is going on but the shill aspect is obvious for both sides.
Indeed; this is very obvious on the reddit page. It would not surprise me if some people got paid along the way to switch sides.

Well they think that they have the solution to move bitcoin forward, however they way that they try to promote their agenda is by spreading FUD.
Indeed. Garzik had a backroom meeting with the miners and they've declined support (IIRC) as Classic does not have a long term plan in addition to not having an adequate team of developers.
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Well they think that they have the solution to move bitcoin forward, however they way that they try to promote their agenda is by spreading FUD. Like that's going to work somehow. It's a double edged sword and they might cut themselves with that strategy.
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The rhetoric on both sides is a bit much and you can squash 15% of threads as fud a lot of the time. Sometimes its not clear where some one stands unless you know the situations talking points. Its hard for new people to grasp everything that is going on but the shill aspect is obvious for both sides.
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2. Red vs. Blue bullshit: You suck/are a shill because you don't like what I like.
Blame the controversial forks for this.


Its funny because when i asked a guy here that he supports coin distribution, he avoided answering me, so I take that for a yes.

Bitcoin Classic would start implementing marxist BIPS in notime if they would get in charge, and would start redistributing coins as well.
legendary
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That's what I'm talking about too, see your sig (which, presumably, pays, idk). Is /r/bitcoin also paying people to post?
How should I know that when I don't use reddit?

So yeah, this forum has more posts, but ~95% of the content is:
1. Insipid pay2post bullshit, most of it in embarrassingly broken/misspelled/mispunctuated English. I'm not a native speaker myself, but content like that shoo' makes bitcoin enthusiasts look like illiterate morons.
It can't really be avoided nor is it up to me.

2. Red vs. Blue bullshit: You suck/are a shill because you don't like what I like.
Blame the controversial forks for this.

r/btc is bad bad bad. I thought the joint was gonna be a refreshing alternative but it's maybe the worst of the bunch.
Nobody should use it as a 'source of news'.
legendary
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r/btc is bad bad bad. I thought the joint was gonna be a refreshing alternative but it's maybe the worst of the bunch.
legendary
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I would take whatever information I am reading on Reddit with a big grain of salt if it's from some random user. Yes I do agree there is a lot of interesting and sensational news but a lot of users like to write things out of thin air. I am not saying that everyone is a shill and a liar but be wary of false information spreading around and just don't perceive everything as the sole truth.
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/btc subreddit is full of hypocrites or shills or just plain insane people. First they say that the forum is heavily censored, which is not. It's only moderated in a way to not let shills manipulate the public opinion, which they obviously do
i do find it funny that the moderators working for this forum cant accept any opinion that differs from the blockstream rhetoric.
Well, has any moderator commented on this here thinking not personally?
All views here are personal (AFAIU) opinions of the members, none is censoring them....

many non blockstreamers have had temporal bans for a couple days, had posts deleted, where the content of such posts were not related to illegal activity.

For example?
CAN'T THEY JUST OPPOSE THE BAN?
*calmns down*
legendary
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r/bitcoin is a pathetic shithole.

r/btc? Hmm I'd probably at least triple the patheticness and fountains of freshly whipped faecal matter until it's lapping around our ankles.

About the only place one can find reasonable conversation is r/bitcoinmarkets and that's only on occasion when they can be bothered.
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seeing as you are a blockstream/altcoin fanboy. you would not get deleted. they love you.



I`m a person that has devoted the past 3 years of his life to bitcoin because i see great future for it.

Yet some people here call me a shill or a troll ,when i have put a lot of effort into bitcoin, so I think I have right to my opinion after all this efforts.

And because i put 3 years of effort into this, i would not like bitcoin being broken because wreckless code gets put into it (classic), that is not scaleable in the longterm, and will make sure that bitcoin wont have a future.


I already have a thread about classic scaleability, and i tell you it's not scaleable, and will get centralized in an instant.


So if you are really pro decentralization, then you`d support core.
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