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Topic: [BTC-TC] BTC-BOND - 0.03% Daily - page 5. (Read 20235 times)

hero member
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May 05, 2013, 11:34:13 PM
#39
It's on BTCT.co, there's no microtransaction needed.
newbie
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May 05, 2013, 07:11:26 PM
#38
Given the upcoming changes to remove 'dust' from transactions, I'm curious how this will affect the daily dividend pay out?
sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 04:11:16 PM
#37

You're misreading the percentage.  It's three one-hundredths of a percent a day (principal * .0003).

So .0003*.01=.000003

*facepalm.   

Thanks for the clarification.  I thought I was losing my mind.
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May 01, 2013, 11:49:53 AM
#36
Indeed, 0.03% and not 3%.

x 365 days, it comes to 10.95% per year that I pay on that loan.


FWIW... in Excel, (POWER(1 + (0.000003/0.01), 365.249) - 1) = 11.5785%

From Namworlds perspective, since he is not selling more of the bonds right now, it makes more sense to use the non-compounding formula, since that is what he is actually paying.

This is about the same APR that I have on my credit card, which is reasonable for a personal line of credit (as opposed to some people who think 7% per week is more reasonable because ... bitcoin!).
hero member
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May 01, 2013, 03:19:52 AM
#35
Indeed, 0.03% and not 3%.

x 365 days, it comes to 10.95% per year that I pay on that loan.


FWIW... in Excel, (POWER(1 + (0.000003/0.01), 365.249) - 1) = 11.5785%

That's compounding - namworld's figure is non-compounding.

If you have DRIP switched on (or manually buy more with dividends each day) then you'd get nearer your value (to get exactly it you'd have to receive dividends that could precisely be reinvested for a full number of shares every day).

If you don't reinvest then you get namworld's figure.
vip
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May 01, 2013, 02:06:15 AM
#34
Indeed, 0.03% and not 3%.

x 365 days, it comes to 10.95% per year that I pay on that loan.


FWIW... in Excel, (POWER(1 + (0.000003/0.01), 365.249) - 1) = 11.5785%
hero member
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May 01, 2013, 01:21:54 AM
#33
Indeed, 0.03% and not 3%.

x 365 days, it comes to 10.95% per year that I pay on that loan.
newbie
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May 01, 2013, 01:07:24 AM
#32
I think I might be missing something here.

Your listing on btct.co states:
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- Bonds shall pay a variable interest of no less than 0.03% daily.
- Bonds have a face value of 0.01 BTC  

So the value of each share is 0.01BTC.
The daily interest payment history shows daily payments of 0.00000300BTC

0.03% of 0.01BTC = 0.003BTC, not 0.00000300BTC.

Assuming your percentage is based off of USD/BTC conversion;

Right now, to be conservative, BTC is trading for $120 per 1BTC.
0.01BTC = $1.20.  
0.03% of $1.20 is $0.036

$0.036 = 0.003BTC
0.00000300BTC != 0.003BTC

What am I missing?

You're misreading the percentage.  It's three one-hundredths of a percent a day (principal * .0003).

So .0003*.01=.000003
sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 12:49:00 AM
#31
I think I might be missing something here.

Your listing on btct.co states:
Quote
- Bonds shall pay a variable interest of no less than 0.03% daily.
- Bonds have a face value of 0.01 BTC  

So the value of each share is 0.01BTC.
The daily interest payment history shows daily payments of 0.00000300BTC

0.03% of 0.01BTC = 0.003BTC, not 0.00000300BTC.

Assuming your percentage is based off of USD/BTC conversion;

Right now, to be conservative, BTC is trading for $120 per 1BTC.
0.01BTC = $1.20.  
0.03% of $1.20 is $0.036

$0.036 = 0.003BTC
0.00000300BTC != 0.003BTC

What am I missing?
ar9
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April 24, 2013, 08:17:44 PM
#30
Yeah, sorry guys, I thought this bond was created by burnside himself, to support the site.  Didn't realize there wasn't an affiliation there, my bad!
hero member
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April 24, 2013, 02:25:27 PM
#29
You guys should waive the transaction fees on these bonds, considering they inherently support your site any way.
No chance of this, huh?

This did not make sense, if btct.co waived the fees for the traded shares, then they would not support the site. The fees are pretty low, if you are not making enough money in trading and dividends to basically ignore the fees then you are doing something wrong.
hero member
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April 23, 2013, 02:24:09 AM
#28
I cannot waive the fees. It is not my website.
ar9
sr. member
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April 22, 2013, 11:47:17 PM
#27
You guys should waive the transaction fees on these bonds, considering they inherently support your site any way.
No chance of this, huh?
hero member
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April 19, 2013, 03:52:56 PM
#26
I would like to redeem?  How do I go about this?

PMing you
hero member
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April 19, 2013, 02:40:28 PM
#25
I would like to redeem?  How do I go about this?
hero member
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March 04, 2013, 08:49:47 PM
#24
Mostly staying in BTC denominated assets.

There's no time period for the bond. I sell more or buyback as needed. Every holder can also request to redeem on request.
sr. member
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March 04, 2013, 08:13:29 PM
#23
I'm curious - how long are you expected to keep this bond going...a few months? Years?

Were/are the proceeds converted to fiat or are they staying in BTC-denominated assets?

Thanks!
vip
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February 09, 2013, 09:15:21 PM
#22
Well another coming up today and for the next 4 days.

1 BTC per day on top of usual coupon.
Awesome Grin
hero member
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February 09, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
#21
Well another coming up today and for the next 4 days.

1 BTC per day on top of usual coupon.
sr. member
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January 08, 2013, 08:57:42 AM
#20
Hey, thanks for the "extra" dividend to all shareholders today - very cool!

(And thanks for the relatively smooth transition from GLBSE as well)
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