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Topic: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! - page 5. (Read 37852 times)

hero member
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Dividends will go out shortly at 0.00022856 per share. Thanks!
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hero member
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Dividend will begin processing at the top of the hour. 0.00024099 per share!
legendary
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Why has there been such a big disconnect between ASICMINER-PT (now bid 4.327) and TAT.ASICMINER (now bid 0.04198) prices of late?

I'd arbitrage AM-PT -> TAT.AM, but I'm all out of AM-PT!

Yeah. The distance is getting wider. TAT.AM is great and so is btct.co! *blink* Wink
newbie
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Why has there been such a big disconnect between ASICMINER-PT (now bid 4.327) and TAT.ASICMINER (now bid 0.04198) prices of late?

I'd arbitrage AM-PT -> TAT.AM, but I'm all out of AM-PT!
hero member
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Dividend scheduled for payment in about 15 minutes at 0.00019717 !
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OFFICIAL UPDATE

I have some news for everyone after a brief e-mail exchange with Friedcat. He has answered the 3 questions I submitted from our recent poll below:

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-- There was news about a presentation by Rockxie about ASICMINER. Can you confirm this was an official presentation and summarize the news that was shared about upcoming plans for the mining farm and the Mini Blade?
Friedcat: They are true, though some projected dates from our side were more-or-less overly determined in his presentation.

-- When can we expect the first financial report?
Friedcat: We are asking board members if July 23 is acceptable.

-- Could Bitfountain provide an official live hashrate meter from ASICMINER for your mining farm, or could you periodically confirm the current hashrate?
Friedcat: Yes. Our internal management system is towards its completing. Directing the data to a public webpage is easy.

In other news, Friedcat has also officially confirmed my new status as a board member!

I am truly honored and proud to have achieved this, and I look forward to playing any role I can to further ASICMINER's success.
hero member
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Might be worth starting a new thread for your topic. Aside from going off the rails here, you may get other good commenters in an on-topic thread.  Wink
sr. member
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Greedy and primitive :-) do you think you have any chance on the free market without ripping off other people?
You are still spreading FUD without caring about rebutting my obviously correct arguments.

Your only chance is the ignore list.

Sure, but explain me if there is a chance for you to scalp other abs or hft or you just scalp less experienced traders
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Bitgoblin
Greedy and primitive :-) do you think you have any chance on the free market without ripping off other people?
You are still spreading FUD without caring about rebutting my obviously correct arguments.

Your only chance is the ignore list.
sr. member
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yeah, he has arguments like those bunch of greedy banksters runing lives of those lowborns just to get bonuses... if HFT would rule BTC, we are just in another corrupt system, where greed is the main principle. It is probably too early and it could destroy whole idea
"you are like a greedy banker" is not a rebuttal, it's trolling.

I've explained quite clearly, twice.

Voodah himself despite trolling in the first part of his post, with the last sentence admitted my solution could be good.
You, instead, are just trolling.
So shut the fuck up, asshole.


Greedy and primitive :-) do you think you have any chance on the free market without ripping off other people?
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Bitgoblin
yeah, he has arguments like those bunch of greedy banksters runing lives of those lowborns just to get bonuses... if HFT would rule BTC, we are just in another corrupt system, where greed is the main principle. It is probably too early and it could destroy whole idea
"you are like a greedy banker" is not a rebuttal, it's trolling.

I've explained quite clearly, twice.

Voodah himself despite trolling in the first part of his post, with the last sentence admitted my solution could be good.
You, instead, are just trolling.
So shut the fuck up, asshole.
sr. member
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A bot simply allows a human to perform some action in his stead.


This here is your problem. It's a misconception and flat out wrong.

Bots do not simply allow humans to perform in their stead.

Bots do stuff that humans CAN'T do.
You can buy or sell.
Bots can buy or sell.
You provide the bots with the cash, and with configuration on how to behave.

Everything else is a myth.

Again, you are facing a x/y problem.

If you consider speed trading is a problem, then the solution is capping the speed, not nuking anything involved with high speed while it isn't capped.


Hhmm you must be one of the bankers right??

Anyway.. NO. All your arguments lie.

1. No myth here. You can not do what a bot does. Stop lying about it to defend HFT. You need to sleep, eat, take a shit, etc. You cannot punch buttons fast enough either. You are plain and simply wrong.
2. This is not an x/y problem. HFT and speed trading are one and the same problem to me, and if I were to go meta, i'd say the bottom line is it's all about out of control greed as always.

And who said anything about nuking everything? I happen to agree that speed capping is a good possibility for a solution.

yeah, he has arguments like those bunch of greedy banksters runing lives of those lowborns just to get bonuses... if HFT would rule BTC, we are just in another corrupt system, where greed is the main principle. It is probably too early and it could destroy whole idea
sr. member
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A bot simply allows a human to perform some action in his stead.


This here is your problem. It's a misconception and flat out wrong.

Bots do not simply allow humans to perform in their stead.

Bots do stuff that humans CAN'T do.
You can buy or sell.
Bots can buy or sell.
You provide the bots with the cash, and with configuration on how to behave.

Everything else is a myth.

Again, you are facing a x/y problem.

If you consider speed trading is a problem, then the solution is capping the speed, not nuking anything involved with high speed while it isn't capped.


Hhmm you must be one of the bankers right??

Anyway.. NO. All your arguments lie.

1. No myth here. You can not do what a bot does. Stop lying about it to defend HFT. You need to sleep, eat, take a shit, etc. You cannot punch buttons fast enough either. You are plain and simply wrong.
2. This is not an x/y problem. HFT and speed trading are one and the same problem to me, and if I were to go meta, i'd say the bottom line is it's all about out of control greed as always.

And who said anything about nuking everything? I happen to agree that speed capping is a good possibility for a solution.
full member
Activity: 147
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A bot simply allows a human to perform some action in his stead.


This here is your problem. It's a misconception and flat out wrong.

Bots do not simply allow humans to perform in their stead.

Bots do stuff that humans CAN'T do.
You can buy or sell.
Bots can buy or sell.
You provide the bots with the cash, and with configuration on how to behave.

Everything else is a myth.

Again, you are facing a x/y problem.

If you consider speed trading is a problem, then the solution is capping the speed, not nuking anything involved with high speed while it isn't capped.


i thing you both ar right Smiley
HFT is a problem for most people, who do not use it (incl me... for now)
AND is no problem for those who use - as simple as is.

the real problem is, that bitcoin is too small for HFT and maybe always will be, at least in the near future.

the fact is, it's impossible to NOT use HFT AT ALL, in the same way as its impossible to stop using bitcoin at all without shutting down the whole network.
there will be always some engines allowing such trading and absolutely impossible to disable this without shutting down them all. that's again freedom TOO.

bitcoin is a "little" wild system. so allow it to be so and try to go through... Wink

if we begin to regulate it too much, well get a "New Old" system. ...OK, a fork maybe but not something Definitely New as BTC is now.
in the light of this - not to worry Wink
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Bitgoblin

A bot simply allows a human to perform some action in his stead.


This here is your problem. It's a misconception and flat out wrong.

Bots do not simply allow humans to perform in their stead.

Bots do stuff that humans CAN'T do.
You can buy or sell.
Bots can buy or sell.
You provide the bots with the cash, and with configuration on how to behave.

Everything else is a myth.

Again, you are facing a x/y problem.

If you consider speed trading is a problem, then the solution is capping the speed, not nuking anything involved with high speed while it isn't capped.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250

A bot simply allows a human to perform some action in his stead.


This here is your problem. It's a misconception and flat out wrong.

Bots do not simply allow humans to perform in their stead.

Bots do stuff that humans CAN'T do.

HFT is extremely bad for Bitcoin. I see it already in action. In the past year, Bitcoin has transformed itself into a purely financial platform for big fiat money guys to crush the common investor. We have lost track of the objective of a currency & economy for the free unregulated world. It is now regulated from the shadows by whales, bots and hft; controlling the market, and dumping when it gets out of hand.

Uncontrolled HFT is just like saying: "Hey financial sector guys (who ruined the world's economy), here you go, this is the key to the house, do with us as you please."
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Except bot market is not free market, it's whale market.

In case you didn't know, HFT comprises more than 70% of all daily trades in wall street.

The situation is so bad, you currently got whales buying whole buildings next to the exchanges so they can have <1ms lag to inject 10 orders before yours is even up, cutting off your profits on every single trade you make. Then you have your flash crashes...

We are heading exactly in that direction. But sure, don't worry bro.
X/Y problem.

I'm totally agains regulating such a thing.
A bot simply allows a human to perform some action in his stead.
You can't really ban bots even if you wanted to, unless you want to ban all the web access for everyone.

If the problem is that they are too fast, you can just, you know, solve the exact problem you are having, and slow everything down. Instead of, you know, shotgun blasting everything in a frenzy.


I am not against principles of free market, but hft is against nature, so would be then fine to have a markets for humans and then markets for hft, so they can try scalp each other



They are trying that up here in Canada will be interesting to see if it works
http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/rbc-barclays-among-backers-for-new-stock-market-to-rival-tsx-1.1340616

Anyways enjoy the frenzy time for more TAT shares xd
sr. member
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Except bot market is not free market, it's whale market.

In case you didn't know, HFT comprises more than 70% of all daily trades in wall street.

The situation is so bad, you currently got whales buying whole buildings next to the exchanges so they can have <1ms lag to inject 10 orders before yours is even up, cutting off your profits on every single trade you make. Then you have your flash crashes...

We are heading exactly in that direction. But sure, don't worry bro.
X/Y problem.

I'm totally agains regulating such a thing.
A bot simply allows a human to perform some action in his stead.
You can't really ban bots even if you wanted to, unless you want to ban all the web access for everyone.

If the problem is that they are too fast, you can just, you know, solve the exact problem you are having, and slow everything down. Instead of, you know, shotgun blasting everything in a frenzy.


I am not against principles of free market, but hft is against nature, so would be then fine to have a markets for humans and then markets for hft, so they can try scalp each other

hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Bitgoblin
Except bot market is not free market, it's whale market.

In case you didn't know, HFT comprises more than 70% of all daily trades in wall street.

The situation is so bad, you currently got whales buying whole buildings next to the exchanges so they can have <1ms lag to inject 10 orders before yours is even up, cutting off your profits on every single trade you make. Then you have your flash crashes...

We are heading exactly in that direction. But sure, don't worry bro.
X/Y problem.

I'm totally agains regulating such a thing.
A bot simply allows a human to perform some action in his stead.
You can't really ban bots even if you wanted to, unless you want to ban all the web access for everyone.

If the problem is that they are too fast, you can just, you know, solve the exact problem you are having, and slow everything down. Instead of, you know, shotgun blasting everything in a frenzy.
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