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Voodah

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Quote from: Lohoris on July 05, 2013, 08:02:34 PM

Quote from: Voodah on July 05, 2013, 06:13:23 PM

Quote from: forensick on July 05, 2013, 10:07:47 AM

are those smart robots better than smart investors?

Are they better than smart investors? No.

Are they more consistent than smart investors? Yes.
Are they better than 95% of the investors out there (not-smart ones)? Yes.
Are they faster than ALL investors? Yes.

Who controls them (the good ones anyway)? The smartest investors...

Still not worried?

Why should anyone be worried?

You are still racing agains a human, after all.
And the weapon he's using isn't a secret, you can use it yourself if you want.

Free market is free market is free market.

Except bot market is not free market, it's whale market.

In case you didn't know, HFT comprises more than 70% of all daily trades in wall street.

The situation is so bad, you currently got whales buying whole buildings next to the exchanges so they can have <1ms lag to inject 10 orders before yours is even up, cutting off your profits on every single trade you make. Then you have your flash crashes...

We are heading exactly in that direction. But sure, don't worry bro.

freedomno1

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Quote from: Lohoris on July 05, 2013, 08:02:34 PM

Quote from: Voodah on July 05, 2013, 06:13:23 PM

Quote from: forensick on July 05, 2013, 10:07:47 AM

are those smart robots better than smart investors?

Are they better than smart investors? No.

Are they more consistent than smart investors? Yes.
Are they better than 95% of the investors out there (not-smart ones)? Yes.
Are they faster than ALL investors? Yes.

Who controls them (the good ones anyway)? The smartest investors...

Still not worried?

Why should anyone be worried?

You are still racing agains a human, after all.
And the weapon he's using isn't a secret, you can use it yourself if you want.

Free market is free market is free market.

But when they all do different things because they are all different robots
Nothing makes sense and we get noise

Lohoris

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Quote from: Voodah on July 05, 2013, 06:13:23 PM

Quote from: forensick on July 05, 2013, 10:07:47 AM

are those smart robots better than smart investors?

Are they better than smart investors? No.

Are they more consistent than smart investors? Yes.
Are they better than 95% of the investors out there (not-smart ones)? Yes.
Are they faster than ALL investors? Yes.

Who controls them (the good ones anyway)? The smartest investors...

Still not worried?

Why should anyone be worried?

You are still racing agains a human, after all.
And the weapon he's using isn't a secret, you can use it yourself if you want.

Free market is free market is free market.

Voodah

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Quote from: forensick on July 05, 2013, 10:07:47 AM

are those smart robots better than smart investors?

Are they better than smart investors? No.

Are they more consistent than smart investors? Yes.
Are they better than 95% of the investors out there (not-smart ones)? Yes.
Are they faster than ALL investors? Yes.

Who controls them (the good ones anyway)? The smartest investors...

Still not worried?

freedomno1

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Quote from: forensick on July 05, 2013, 10:07:47 AM

are those smart robots better than smart investors?

Hmm observes mtgox rate ponders this Cool

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are those smart robots better than smart investors?

freedomno1

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Quote from: Voodah on July 05, 2013, 01:17:30 AM

Quote from: freedomno1 on July 04, 2013, 11:07:53 PM

Quote from: forensick on July 04, 2013, 11:29:42 AM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on July 03, 2013, 01:40:39 PM

Dividends are scheduled to fire at the top of the hour.

0.00021822 per share!

always nice to wake up on Thursday and see new coins for reinvestments, fortunately, crowd is behaving really like crowd in old time on real stock exchanges, so it is pretty predictable to react for dips and pullbacks Grin

Before all the robots Wink

I've seen plenty of robots already in btct.co.....

Before all the smart robots Cheesy

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Quote from: Voodah on July 05, 2013, 01:17:30 AM

Quote from: freedomno1 on July 04, 2013, 11:07:53 PM

Quote from: forensick on July 04, 2013, 11:29:42 AM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on July 03, 2013, 01:40:39 PM

Dividends are scheduled to fire at the top of the hour.

0.00021822 per share!

always nice to wake up on Thursday and see new coins for reinvestments, fortunately, crowd is behaving really like crowd in old time on real stock exchanges, so it is pretty predictable to react for dips and pullbacks Grin

Before all the robots Wink

I've seen plenty of robots already in btct.co.....

High frequency trading still needs more volume and liquidiyt

Voodah

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Quote from: freedomno1 on July 04, 2013, 11:07:53 PM

Quote from: forensick on July 04, 2013, 11:29:42 AM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on July 03, 2013, 01:40:39 PM

Dividends are scheduled to fire at the top of the hour.

0.00021822 per share!

always nice to wake up on Thursday and see new coins for reinvestments, fortunately, crowd is behaving really like crowd in old time on real stock exchanges, so it is pretty predictable to react for dips and pullbacks Grin

Before all the robots Wink

I've seen plenty of robots already in btct.co.....

freedomno1

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Learning the troll avoidance button :)

Quote from: forensick on July 04, 2013, 11:29:42 AM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on July 03, 2013, 01:40:39 PM

Dividends are scheduled to fire at the top of the hour.

0.00021822 per share!

always nice to wake up on Thursday and see new coins for reinvestments, fortunately, crowd is behaving really like crowd in old time on real stock exchanges, so it is pretty predictable to react for dips and pullbacks Grin

Before all the robots Wink

forensick

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Quote from: ThickAsThieves on July 03, 2013, 01:40:39 PM

Dividends are scheduled to fire at the top of the hour.

0.00021822 per share!

always nice to wake up on Thursday and see new coins for reinvestments, fortunately, crowd is behaving really like crowd in old time on real stock exchanges, so it is pretty predictable to react for dips and pullbacks Grin

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Quote from: SOSLOVE868 on July 02, 2013, 09:18:13 AM

Quote from: jjdub7 on June 26, 2013, 10:20:46 PM

I know, that's why I've never put a single dollar of fiat money into BTC. And I've made a pretty return to cover the depreciation on my PMB's through investing the dividends into TAT's ASICMINER shares, which I can do on a daily basis with the daily coupons from the PMB's. In doing this, with the ASICMINER price appreciation in recent weeks, I've already covered the returns necessary to completely write off the PMB's. Again, my PMB argument was based on liquidity, not returns. And now I can sell them whenever I want the same way I'd sell used mining hardware...except I don't need to worry about shipping and selling actual hardware.

if you only hold 2-3 BTC ,I believe PMBs can meet what you needs as a liquidity, Apart from DMS mining ,for example PAJKA bond, that daily trading is around couples of BTC, if you invested more than hundred BTC. Think again ,can you sell those contracts without massive loss??

In additional: I am happy you admitted you loss value when your write off your PMBs..Thereby what I suggest isn't wrong ,PMBs isn't something that can get positive return for your money.

I was claim that AM is the only company can invest in one month before, if anyone listen to me , you get 2x your fund by now like what I did.

-_- Yes, but that was my point...the loss was already underwritten when i first bought the bonds.

ThickAsThieves

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Dividends are scheduled to fire at the top of the hour.

0.00021822 per share!

SOSLOVE868

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Quote from: jjdub7 on June 26, 2013, 10:20:46 PM

I know, that's why I've never put a single dollar of fiat money into BTC. And I've made a pretty return to cover the depreciation on my PMB's through investing the dividends into TAT's ASICMINER shares, which I can do on a daily basis with the daily coupons from the PMB's. In doing this, with the ASICMINER price appreciation in recent weeks, I've already covered the returns necessary to completely write off the PMB's. Again, my PMB argument was based on liquidity, not returns. And now I can sell them whenever I want the same way I'd sell used mining hardware...except I don't need to worry about shipping and selling actual hardware.

if you only hold 2-3 BTC ,I believe PMBs can meet what you needs as a liquidity, Apart from DMS mining ,for example PAJKA bond, that daily trading is around couples of BTC, if you invested more than hundred BTC. Think again ,can you sell those contracts without massive loss??

In additional: I am happy you admitted you loss value when your write off your PMBs..Thereby what I suggest isn't wrong ,PMBs isn't something that can get positive return for your money.

I was claim that AM is the only company can invest in one month before, if anyone listen to me , you get 2x your fund by now like what I did.

jjdub7

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Quote from: SOSLOVE868 on June 28, 2013, 01:44:06 PM

Quote from: jjdub7 on June 26, 2013, 10:20:46 PM

As I've stated before, I have a portfolio that's based on long-term gains and cash flows, not some cheap trick amateur equities/securities flipping scheme. I hold PMB's that I've held onto for a very long time with the purpose of using them to simulate actual mining hardware as a portion of my portfolio. I also hold stocks in order to diversify my portfolio and meet a risk objective. You, on the other hard, plow your entire wallet into the first asset that manages to hold your attention for more than a minute and then you cry like a bitch when you take on losses.

But please, do carry on. I use your posts as one of my primary references to gauge the current crowd mentality, so at least you're helping someone if not yourself.

again ,how many btc you gained so far? If you spend half of you asset on buy PMBs,and other half buying AM. AM increase from 2.4 to 3.4 in last month and currently is the best performance equity, and in the meanwhile all PMBs.. lose about half of its face value. if you are not some unlucky guy bought RTM which lose 75% of its face value in last months. other stocks ,apart from AMC.(AMC is too strange ,although the price have been 5 times increased ,it mostly because the issuer issuing new equity at this price ,it is not a result of free trade.)

I really hopes that you get your portfolio makes profit for you...or instead in here attacking someone is crowd...

You brave, you losing money ,So why should I care about you ? I am crowd at least I made money on AM.

This is BTC not something else, you really think those risk diversification theory is working in this market??

Everyone in the exchanges ,is just like gamble... there are huge possibility that once you wake up in the morning,the issuer has disappeared.

The risk your hold more diversification the more likely chances you get issuer disappeared...I treat this like online casino...nothing worry ,just for fun...

I know, that's why I've never put a single dollar of fiat money into BTC. And I've made a pretty return to cover the depreciation on my PMB's through investing the dividends into TAT's ASICMINER shares, which I can do on a daily basis with the daily coupons from the PMB's. In doing this, with the ASICMINER price appreciation in recent weeks, I've already covered the returns necessary to completely write off the PMB's. Again, my PMB argument was based on liquidity, not returns. And now I can sell them whenever I want the same way I'd sell used mining hardware...except I don't need to worry about shipping and selling actual hardware.

SOSLOVE868

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Quote from: jjdub7 on June 26, 2013, 10:20:46 PM

As I've stated before, I have a portfolio that's based on long-term gains and cash flows, not some cheap trick amateur equities/securities flipping scheme. I hold PMB's that I've held onto for a very long time with the purpose of using them to simulate actual mining hardware as a portion of my portfolio. I also hold stocks in order to diversify my portfolio and meet a risk objective. You, on the other hard, plow your entire wallet into the first asset that manages to hold your attention for more than a minute and then you cry like a bitch when you take on losses.

But please, do carry on. I use your posts as one of my primary references to gauge the current crowd mentality, so at least you're helping someone if not yourself.

again ,how many btc you gained so far? If you spend half of you asset on buy PMBs,and other half buying AM. AM increase from 2.4 to 3.4 in last month and currently is the best performance equity, and in the meanwhile all PMBs.. lose about half of its face value. if you are not some unlucky guy bought RTM which lose 75% of its face value in last months. other stocks ,apart from AMC.(AMC is too strange ,although the price have been 5 times increased ,it mostly because the issuer issuing new equity at this price ,it is not a result of free trade.)

I really hopes that you get your portfolio makes profit for you...or instead in here attacking someone is crowd...

You brave, you losing money ,So why should I care about you ? I am crowd at least I made money on AM.

This is BTC not something else, you really think those risk diversification theory is working in this market??

Everyone in the exchanges ,is just like gamble... there are huge possibility that once you wake up in the morning,the issuer has disappeared.

The risk your hold more diversification the more likely chances you get issuer disappeared...I treat this like online casino...nothing worry ,just for fun...

Voodah

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Quote from: daemondazz on June 26, 2013, 08:50:28 PM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on June 26, 2013, 12:14:37 PM

Quote from: Voodah on June 26, 2013, 12:07:16 PM

Got em. That was fast.

That's what she said!

Bazinga!

jjdub7

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Quote from: SOSLOVE868 on June 26, 2013, 09:07:42 AM

Quote from: jjdub7 on June 25, 2013, 03:40:13 PM

Quote from: bitcoinplay on June 22, 2013, 08:03:08 AM

This issuer is making up evidence that some guy has talked to him on iRC for 4 hours. I have never used irc in my life, he is making shit up

Another reason why you don't want to deal with him

We're all sorry you jumped into an asset that seemed too good to be true, but TAT has no control over the prices of his assets. However, he clearly defined what you'd be getting with the bond, and its your own damn fault that you didn't foresee the risks involved. In further defense of TAT, he could buy back the bonds now at any time for a relatively large profit, but yet he still continues to pay coupons rather than buying back at 200x coupon.

Shame on you for blaming others for your stupidity.

Seems this time you change your mind........You agreed what I told ,buying PMBs equal to suicide yourself.

As I've stated before, I have a portfolio that's based on long-term gains and cash flows, not some cheap trick amateur equities/securities flipping scheme. I hold PMB's that I've held onto for a very long time with the purpose of using them to simulate actual mining hardware as a portion of my portfolio. I also hold stocks in order to diversify my portfolio and meet a risk objective. You, on the other hard, plow your entire wallet into the first asset that manages to hold your attention for more than a minute and then you cry like a bitch when you take on losses.

But please, do carry on. I use your posts as one of my primary references to gauge the current crowd mentality, so at least you're helping someone if not yourself.

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Quote from: ThickAsThieves on June 26, 2013, 12:14:37 PM

Quote from: Voodah on June 26, 2013, 12:07:16 PM

Got em. That was fast.

That's what she said!

Bazinga!

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