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newbie
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lots of good advice
The problem is that I backup via iCloud and it had auto-backed up after the new version was installed, so it had already been overwritten at that point.  After I restored from iCloud - still nothing. 

Oh well, live and learn.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1026
Great.  The new version of Google Authenticator wiped out all the old stored sites, so now I get to wait 30 days for BTCT to manually reset it.

Hopefully the value of my portfolio doesn't tank in the next month.


From the other thread:

How to recover:

I recovered from this mistake.  This should work on both jailbroken and unmodified iPhones, and will not loose your jailbreak if done correctly (point 5):

1) Swear at Google (OK, most of you have probably already done that)

2) Delete the Google Authenticator app from your Phone.

3) If iTunes sync automatically with your phone, you probably want to turn that off first.  Also, if you sync over WiFi it may already be too late - I really do not know.

4) Connect your phone to iTunes.  Enable the panel on the left.  It shows "LIBRARY", "STORE", "SHARED" etc and also the name of the phone.  On newer iTunes it is disabled by default, choose View / Show Sidebar.

5) Right-click on your iPhone, choose "Restore from Backup".  DO NOT use the normal restore button on the main window, as that will also restore the firmware and wipe and restore everythin (it will take ages resyncing, and any jailbreak will be gone).

6) After restoring, iTunes will resync your phone and reinstall Google Authenticator.  If you did not sync or backup since upgrading the app, the old version INCLUDING KEYS will be back.

7) If jailbroken, install Update Hider and hide the update to GA (I have not done this yet myself, but it should work).

Just successfully recovered the old version in iTunes. Here is how I did it:

First of first, go to iTunes ASAP, locate your most updated iPhone backup and make a copy before you try any recover trick.

1. delete the new version of authenticator on your iPhone
2. disable auto sync in iTunes
3. Connect your iPhone via USB
4. Click your iPhone, then go to "application" tab
5. On the left side, scroll down, you gonna see the old version of authenticator, install it.


If you're using Android and you are familiar with adb, this is an easy way to do backups to prevent a loss in the future:

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1. Start adb in root mode: "adb root"

2. Transfer the database file from GAuth: "adb pull /data/data/com.google.android.apps.authenticator/databases/databases"

3. Open the database with a sqlite editor and print the content of the table "accounts".

Though it's advised to do this from a different machine.


Edit: If nothing works, get a phone forensic tool:

http://legacy.oxygen-forensic.com/

And do it manually. As far as I remember iTunes does save backups locally without asking explicitly for confirmation.

Backup locations:

http://osxdaily.com/2009/09/11/iphone-backup-location/

Oxygen should be able to extract the GAuth database entries.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
This is why you always write down the private key portion of the authenticator token when signing up with each site.
Yup - I've definitely learned my lesson.
sr. member
Activity: 356
Merit: 255
Great.  The new version of Google Authenticator wiped out all the old stored sites, so now I get to wait 30 days for BTCT to manually reset it.

Hopefully the value of my portfolio doesn't tank in the next month.
This is why you always write down the private key portion of the authenticator token when signing up with each site.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
Great.  The new version of Google Authenticator wiped out all the old stored sites, so now I get to wait 30 days for BTCT to manually reset it.

Hopefully the value of my portfolio doesn't tank in the next month.
hero member
Activity: 634
Merit: 500
Ok so is it possible to buy shares in the growth of Bitcoin if you believe they will go up in price? There is a share called BTC-GROWTH under the FUND tab on BTC-TC, is this a share for Bitcoin if it increases its value in the future? eg if Bitcoin is worth $200 in the future would you make money if you bought shares now?

I think you are confusing what BTC-GROWTH actually is.
It is a managed growth fund that uses Bitcoins as it's denominated value. "Growth" being the investment term: capital appreciation. Maybe this is what you want?

If you want to only invest only in the value of Bitcoin (against USD, EUR or other currencies), then you need to go to a currency exchange and just buy Bitcoins.
hero member
Activity: 763
Merit: 500
Ok so is it possible to buy shares in the growth of Bitcoin if you believe they will go up in price? There is a share called BTC-GROWTH under the FUND tab on BTC-TC, is this a share for Bitcoin if it increases its value in the future? eg if Bitcoin is worth $200 in the future would you make money if you bought shares now?

Umm, why wouldn't you just buy bitcoins then.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
Ok so is it possible to buy shares in the growth of Bitcoin if you believe they will go up in price? There is a share called BTC-GROWTH under the FUND tab on BTC-TC, is this a share for Bitcoin if it increases its value in the future? eg if Bitcoin is worth $200 in the future would you make money if you bought shares now?
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
You know, a Cognitive dividend would be nice right about now, seeing as you are continuing to mortgage the security's future and whatnot...
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250

That's not really the problem. The problem is that this is a prediction, and the prediction assumes that the dividends are constant. If the prediction did an exponential (or even linear) extrapolation of the data, the values would be more realistic.

Hmm, I'm having trouble envisioning how any calculation of predicted yield based on historical "dividends" could be relevant for an asset like DMS Selling. What am I missing?
legendary
Activity: 4466
Merit: 3391
This is a bit misleading, especially with mining bonds. DMS.SELLING in the screenshot.

Not just misleading, completely worthless. Smiley But it's not really the fault of the system, which isn't setup to accurately report on securities that return a portion of their principal. DMS Selling isn't a mining bond, it's a security that allows you to bet against the people buying DMS Mining.

That's not really the problem. The problem is that this is a prediction, and the prediction assumes that the dividends are constant. If the prediction did an exponential (or even linear) extrapolation of the data, the values would be more realistic.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
This is a bit misleading, especially with mining bonds. DMS.SELLING in the screenshot.



Not just misleading, completely worthless. Smiley But it's not really the fault of the system, which isn't setup to accurately report on securities that return a portion of their principal. DMS Selling isn't a mining bond, it's a security that allows you to bet against the people buying DMS Mining.
full member
Activity: 181
Merit: 100
This is a bit misleading, especially with mining bonds. DMS.SELLING in the screenshot.

N_S
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Feature Request:  What about a Max Allowed button beside the calculate button.  What this would do is calculate the max amount of shares that you can buy with your available BTC and the price you have typed in.

I find myself always tinkering with the amount and continually hitting calculate.


I requested the same a few pages back. I hope burnside implements it anytime soon.

This should absolutely happen.
hero member
Activity: 968
Merit: 515
Seems like you won't change your opinion on the market/disclosure issue. Too bad.

Any news on the bitcoind issue?
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
What i dont like with that exchange is that it makes it so difficult to buy. PRice and fee are 2 values you have to calculate together in the head, if you did wrong you have to start again, the same goes if you forget to calculate. There is no button to buy with all your bitcoins so that the form is prefilled too.

Its not really fun to use.
sr. member
Activity: 384
Merit: 250
Feature Request:  What about a Max Allowed button beside the calculate button.  What this would do is calculate the max amount of shares that you can buy with your available BTC and the price you have typed in.

I find myself always tinkering with the amount and continually hitting calculate.


I requested the same a few pages back. I hope burnside implements it anytime soon.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
You can trust me, I have an avatar
Feature request: Add the ability to fold up items on the My Dividends tab, ala the Trade Analysis tab.

Great job in general Burnside, as always. Thanks.

Added: Logging in is still necessary to view the virtual assets on LTCglobal, I noticed. There's no market link when logged out.
hero member
Activity: 763
Merit: 500
Feature Request:  What about a Max Allowed button beside the calculate button.  What this would do is calculate the max amount of shares that you can buy with your available BTC and the price you have typed in.

I find myself always tinkering with the amount and continually hitting calculate.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
New Feature Request - Dump private key of address (to track from other wallets and in case site goes down)

I don't think this would do what you think it would.  I suspect it could end up being a disaster even.

The problem I think is that internal wallet accounting with "move" commands like the site uses now do not get sent out on the blockchain, so as soon as you spend your coins on something, if you had the private key you could essentially execute a double-spend.  One spend on shares, the other spend on something else on the blockchain, at the expense of the other users on the exchange.

Cheers.
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