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legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2012, 06:07:41 PM
#78
BinaryMage,

A short-term zero coupon bond (often called a bill) does not have coupons (often referred to in BTC world as divedends).  It is issued at something less than face value and redeemed at par (face) value at maturity.

The PPT bonds are an example of a zero coupon bond.  Where there are no coupons paid and the bond is redeemed at a price greater than it is issued.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-coupon_bond



Alright, thanks for clarifying. I'm not too experienced with financial security lingo. What price would you be planning on issuing at, and what would the bond be redeemable for?

Hey - we all have to learn things  Grin

Pricing is uncertain right now.  As mentioned, I am running the numbers but it would be in the range of 5.0-5.5 per cent compounded monthly.

So using 5% monthly compounding as an example for a 6 month duration...

Offer Price: 0.75
Face Value: 1.00507173

legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2012, 06:03:06 PM
#77
I guess something similar to the PPT.X bonds? Pay 1 BTC now and get 1.4 BTC in half a year or something like that...

Exactly Sukrim...

The 100% PPS bonds are a bet on difficulty.  This is a cleaner debt offering -- not much different than a loan but it offers the lender (bondholder) greater liquidity.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Ad astra.
May 05, 2012, 06:01:40 PM
#76
BinaryMage,

A short-term zero coupon bond (often called a bill) does not have coupons (often referred to in BTC world as divedends).  It is issued at something less than face value and redeemed at par (face) value at maturity.

The PPT bonds are an example of a zero coupon bond.  Where there are no coupons paid and the bond is redeemed at a price greater than it is issued.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-coupon_bond



Alright, thanks for clarifying. I'm not too experienced with financial security lingo. What price would you be planning on issuing at, and what would the bond be redeemable for?
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2012, 06:00:09 PM
#75
BinaryMage,

A short-term zero coupon bond (often called a bill) does not have coupons (often referred to in BTC world as divedends).  It is issued at something less than face value and redeemed at par (face) value at maturity.

The PPT bonds are an example of a zero coupon bond.  Where there are no coupons paid and the bond is redeemed at a price greater than it is issued.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-coupon_bond

legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1007
May 05, 2012, 05:59:47 PM
#74
I guess something similar to the PPT.X bonds? Pay 1 BTC now and get 1.4 BTC in half a year or something like that...
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Ad astra.
May 05, 2012, 05:53:52 PM
#73
Thanks for the comment BinaryMage!

I am looking more into a zero-coupon bond (bill) with a 6-9 month duration to fund the 2nd mini-rig.  Still running the numbers but think this could be Phase II.

 

As in a bond that would only pay for 6-9 months? Can you clarify?
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
#72
Thanks for the comment BinaryMage!

I am looking more into a zero-coupon bond (bill) with a 6-9 month duration to fund the 2nd mini-rig.  Still running the numbers but think this could be Phase II.

 
hero member
Activity: 560
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Ad astra.
May 02, 2012, 08:30:53 PM
#71
Mini-rig order was confirmed last Friday...

Not sure how (if) this will get incorporated into YABMC (i.e., more shares offered or perhaps a separate offering).

Appreciate comments on additional shares?  BITBOND and PUREMINING have both grown 2-3x their IPO volume...

Next dividend payment appears to be on track for next Wednesday afternoon UTC time.  Real life my get in the way and slightly delay (4-6 hours) coupon payment.  More to follow as we get closer to the diff change.

As always, appreciate the support!

Potentially interested, depending on release price. I think YABMC certainly has room to grow.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
May 02, 2012, 08:27:46 PM
#70
Mini-rig order was confirmed last Friday...

Not sure how (if) this will get incorporated into YABMC (i.e., more shares offered or perhaps a separate offering).

Appreciate comments on additional shares?  BITBOND and PUREMINING have both grown 2-3x their IPO volume...

Next dividend payment appears to be on track for next Wednesday afternoon UTC time.  Real life may get in the way and slightly delay (4-6 hours) coupon payment.  More to follow as we get closer to the diff change.

As always, appreciate the support!
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
April 27, 2012, 04:01:54 PM
#69
Thanks guys - I am trying  Grin

Again - will have a google SS up later tonight for tracking but thought the formula (thanks for the original idea Sukrim) would be sufficient for now.
legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1007
April 27, 2012, 03:55:35 PM
#68
Me too, happy pre-investor is happy! Smiley

Perfect handling down to the Satoshi, clear formulas on how much is paid out... that's how it should be done!
hero member
Activity: 518
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April 27, 2012, 02:59:27 PM
#67
Dividend and cherry bonus received.  Smiley  Thanks.
hero member
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Psi laju, karavani prolaze.
April 27, 2012, 05:33:12 AM
#66
Yay, thanks!  Cool
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
April 27, 2012, 05:25:46 AM
#65
Initial Coupon of .00865824 sent.  A 2.89% return if you purchased at the IPO price of 0.30.  Details on 2nd post.  I will have a google doc on the yabmc.info site soon.

Thanks to all the bondholders!
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
April 25, 2012, 03:26:54 PM
#64
One final update - 207 blocks to go so at 6 per hour looks like 34 hours +/- .

This will hit middle of the night US time (around 0700 UTC).  I will strive to have coupons sent no later than 1100 UTC (assuming we have changed diff by then).

legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
April 22, 2012, 07:45:54 PM
#63
Updated the estimate on diff change - looking like early morning (UTC time) on Friday.  Should have coupon sent 1-2 hours after at most if all remains as estimated.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
April 18, 2012, 07:23:38 PM
#62
Thanks for jumping on - glad to have you!
full member
Activity: 180
Merit: 100
April 18, 2012, 05:49:09 PM
#61
How did I miss this...wish I would have gotten in on the IPO, but glad to be on board now.
donator
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
April 17, 2012, 08:38:57 PM
#60
I love it.  Your success happily pointed out by one of your biggest competitors.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1000
April 17, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
#59
Ladies and gentleman - all shares are sold.  Thanks for the note G - appreciate your support!

Thanks to all that purchased the bonds.  Time to start thinking about phase 2 in the coming weeks...  Wink
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