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Topic: [BTC-TC][IPO]ASICME-Our Conquest Is the Sea of Stars - page 3. (Read 15060 times)

legendary
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Bitcoin is too valuable to be used as a currency
man, just buy ipo and flip, no point in buying, are you seriously think there can be another am?
full member
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ASICME random history:

1 lixiaolai invested in this company (but recently lixiaolai says there's no relationship with the IPO).

2 Presell Clone Machines (Avalon chip), selling mining contracts, and expensive hosting services (purchase with their machines). None of them will ever break even, in RMB or BTC. and they dont tell the buyers about the rising difficulty issues.

3 Purchased Avalon chips from earlier group buys (as order placed earlier, the group buys are jimmy2011's, in Chinese subforum), their own orders are only placed after June with a much later deliver estimation.

4 Some kinds of media promotion, claiming to be the largest (bitcoin) mining machine provider in China & third in the world (if I remember correctly), tricking (& have tricked) many new comers in China.
(about 4: use site:163.com ASICME or sina.com.cn or something in Google)
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
dont trust this company.    they have no reputation in Chinese BTC community.

they fucked  a lot of new BTC users in China.

and it seems that they are going to fuck you guys in English community.

It has become apparent to all but the most greedy, gullible greenhorns that BTCT now only lists scams, and protects those scams from legitimate competition via the approval process gatekeepers.

Can you say 'conflict of interest' in Chinese?  Tongue

 
member
Activity: 100
Merit: 10
dont trust this company.    they have no reputation in Chinese BTC community.

they fucked  a lot of new BTC users in China.

and it seems that they are going to fuck you guys in English community.
member
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Has VERY VERY VERY  BAD reputation in China.

hero member
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hero member
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brace yourself, btcgarden investor is coming
full member
Activity: 196
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I love Bitcoin
no way to get into this...i just sell BTCGarden and Labcoin...cannot trust...every one just simple claim have any chips design, but after a period, no even a chipset photo to be available.

my personal opinion not to involve the IPO.
hero member
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请问ASICME怎么就成为第一个发货的克隆矿机厂家了. 神鱼拍卖的那台何在?

发货给客户,和拍卖是两码事。


It seems you communicate a lot in Chinese. Are you planing to give personal lessons to investors? Thanks! 
donator
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ASICME official account.
请问ASICME怎么就成为第一个发货的克隆矿机厂家了. 神鱼拍卖的那台何在?

发货给客户,和拍卖是两码事。
donator
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
ASICME official account.
Just to get an understanding of what's happening here.

ASICME collected 22000 Bitcoin in pre-orders for more than two months, but wasn't able to deliver till now. Furthermore they confessed in a chinese thread that their products ME20 and ME80 are still bugged and there still are unsolved problems.

Today ASICME asks for 45000 Bitcoin and claims their company has a value of 180000 Bitcoin.

We replied your another post. About what you said here, our sales are priced in Chinese yuan, for this IPO, we converted into BTC with this exchange rate 1 BTC =100USD=613CNY.

We have begun to sent the miners to our first batch of customers. This is much earlier than what we promised before (90 days). About the problems, we can solve it by the end of this month, and we have already compensate our customers with our own hash rate (the earnings is equal to how much one can mine with the same hash rate). Actually, we can wait for ngzhang's chips, and do what we promised before. We decided to dispatch our product earlier for a good reputation. However, there are always some people who blame us with no basis.
donator
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ASICME official account.
ASICME has a professional Internet service and sales team led by co-founder of xiaonei.com (a SNS well-known as Chinese Facebook), and the VP of sales of meituan.com (one of the most famous group-buying websites in China), which allow us get about 22,800 BTC sales in only two months. This is an unprecedented achievement in the history of bitcoin mining equipment selling.

[...]

To get around the bottleneck, we acquired a small ASIC chip research and development team. By developing on our own and some private channels, we get a few precious ASIC chips. These chips can meet the early demand of bitcoin miners and hash rate. [...] The first batch miners of our customers (ordered before June 9th 24:00, GMT+8 time zone) will be dispatched in the period from August 10th to August 30th, 2013.

[...]

Our team, ASICME, started to run business since June 2013. According to our financial data, the sales are 8318.81 BTC in June and 13,072.75 BTC in July, respectively.


Hi ASICME.COM,

so to my understanding you sold pre-orders for around 22k Bitcoin through meituan.com.

1. Can you provide a reference to check those numbers?

2. Can you provide any information that guarantees you are able to produce and ship miners for those alleged sales?

3. Is it correct, that you are - at the moment - unable to produce all miners due to delays of chip delivery from ngzhang?

4. How many are "a few precious ASIC chips"?

5. Did you start to ship the first miners yesterday (resp. 2013-08-10)?

Furthermore:

6. Can you provide any reference that Mr. Yang Yaorui was involved in founding Xiaonei/Renren? Please forgive me, but wikipedia.org didn't list him and a not-so-in-depth websearch only revealed Bitcoin related stuff to this name.

7. Can you provide any proof that you are who you claim to be and the people involved in this project?


Anyway. Let's conquest the sea of stars. Cheers! Wink

We sold our bitcoin miners through Taobao.com, not meituan.com (but one VP of meituan.com is our team member). For your questions:

1. This is our online store in Taobao http://meetend.taobao.com/ , if you can read Chinese, you can check the data here.

2. We have already sent the first batch of miners, and here are some news about us: http://asicme.com/en/news , if you cannot read Chinese, you can check the pictures and use google translate.

3. Yes. Because our customers ordered the miners based on ngzhang's avalon chips.

4. Several thousand, most of them are not ngzhang's ASIC chips.

5. Yes, and all first batch customers will be received our miners in 2 or 3 weeks.

6. The co-founders of xiaonei.com are more than 3, and Yaorui Yang is one of them, it's almost commonsense in Chinese internet area. But he has left xiaonei.com in 2007, so it's a little bit difficult to get proofs from the company now. We can provide some other evidences:

1) here is an report about us: http://www.techinasia.com/depth-bitcoin-hands-chinas-average-zhou/

2) From wikipedia, you can see the Chinese characters for xiaonei.com is 校内网. Here is Yaorui Yang's Sina Weibo address http://weibo.com/meetend , sina weibo is known as Chinese twitter, and they provide third-party verification. His verification is 殊途同归创始人,校内网共同创始人, which means"Founder of Meet End, and Co-founder of Xiaonei.com", google translate may help.

7. Can you give us some ideas about how to prove it?

Thank you for your interest.
newbie
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请问ASICME怎么就成为第一个发货的克隆矿机厂家了. 神鱼拍卖的那台何在?
donator
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
ASICME official account.
Again, can you guys prove you're hashing at 9TH/s currently?

This is our address for receiving the benefit from the deployed hash rate: 1AYTkpQDA2nu6vu6JjZvbDgMXa1SjehVYu
You can check the earnings on https://blockchain.info/address/1AYTkpQDA2nu6vu6JjZvbDgMXa1SjehVYu

If you did not believe this address belongs to us, you can verify a message with the signature below:

Message: ASICME.COM
Signature: H1/BlvLmM8wNn9FOZK6SfMurqLEbmzW48gNUmMu38NfPHBhpn7X5B5bF2HbZMmw/VEq5pzc2Rg4kpZk/HI1Dks4=
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1026
Just to get an understanding of what's happening here.

ASICME collected 22000 Bitcoin in pre-orders for more than two months, but wasn't able to deliver till now. Furthermore they confessed in a chinese thread that their products ME20 and ME80 are still bugged and there still are unsolved problems.

Today ASICME asks for 45000 Bitcoin and claims their company has a value of 180000 Bitcoin.
donator
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
ASICME official account.
ASICME IS JUST A SCAM.NEVER TRUST IT.DON'T WASTE YOUR BTC ON THIS PIECE OF ****.

Please do not judge us without basis.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
btcman的花园那种垃圾都有人相信?官网都懒的做,更别说产品了。
我支持asicme!
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Again, can you guys prove you're hashing at 9TH/s currently?
donator
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Merit: 0
A PhD Student in Economics
Looks like Asicme has a rather bad reputation among Chinese customers..
http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5395&extra=page%3D1

请问,您怎么看待asicme与btcman两者之间的关系呢

~"May I ask, how do you feel about relationships between asicme and btcman"

如果您有时间和兴趣,您可以整理下一直以来在bitcointalk论坛和btcman论坛上有关于ASICME负面讨论的id名单,或许您会有新的发现

If you are interested, you can check the ids who blame ASICME in bitcointalk and btcman, perhaps you can find something.
member
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Merit: 10
ASICME IS JUST A SCAM.NEVER TRUST IT.DON'T WASTE YOUR BTC ON THIS PIECE OF ****.
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