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Topic: BTC technicals are against ATH. Liquidate (Read 787 times)

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December 22, 2020, 04:06:00 PM
#67
Fact is nobody on the planet can predict bitcoin and it's movement.
While true most people refuse to accept this simple truth, that does not mean that even with that limitation money cannot be made as a trader, but predicting when the market is going to move in a certain direction and also to predict accurately the magnitude of the movement is something extremely unlikely.

And in the off chance that happens for some and then he shows you that he predicted the market it still means nothing as probably millions of predictions about the price of bitcoin are made everyday and some of them are bound to be right from time to time.
legendary
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December 21, 2020, 06:13:42 AM
#66
Why is it so hard to understand that we are in front of the best performing asset of all times? I know that for traders can be hard to understand this but after 11 years I guess that should be clear by now, shouldn't be?
Forget about TA and keep stacking satoshis!

I like your optimism, but the things that are obvious now have not been obvious in the past. It is very easy to reason so knowing the past. For example, are you now ready to take out a loan (or sell a house) and invest all your funds in bitcoin? It seems to be promising, but very few people will dare to do this, right?
I don't like your answer, maybe I didn't understand what you wanted to say. “If you don’t believe it or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to try to convince you, sorry.” Someone better than me said that a while ago. You do your own reasearch, there are no shortcuts.
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December 20, 2020, 09:24:15 PM
#65
What you have to do for now is to continue in Hodl mode, the market is increasing despite the rebounds of the pandemic, you must continue in the game, at any moment the price may fall, perhaps a retracement that is normal, but a lot of money has entered the market, the technical analyzes that indicate some liquidation do not see it viable, not at least in this December.
STT
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December 20, 2020, 08:54:21 PM
#64
Fact is nobody on the planet can predict bitcoin and it's movement.

Fact, people like facts and the unfortunate belief we as humans have any absolute perfect knowledge.  We dont, we have probable outcomes and thats all we are ever trying to predict to improve chances on a guess which way we go up or down on various time scales.

There is really not much excuse to be negative at present, only the simple take that after a great rise you have more basis to sell from and reason to take profits.   Ultimately and we can forget the idea that BTC usage is the true price movement.  I speculate on a price but I sell to use the profits for actual goods or services I wish to use and consume.   If BTC is not on my list to consume as a product then its not relevant, however owning the asset involves paying miner fees and so on but imo its still applicable we have 2 distinct dynamic in speculative and actual fundamental usage of BTC.
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December 20, 2020, 12:22:24 PM
#63
Why is it so hard to understand that we are in front of the best performing asset of all times? I know that for traders can be hard to understand this but after 11 years I guess that should be clear by now, shouldn't be?
Forget about TA and keep stacking satoshis!

I like your optimism, but the things that are obvious now have not been obvious in the past. It is very easy to reason so knowing the past. For example, are you now ready to take out a loan (or sell a house) and invest all your funds in bitcoin? It seems to be promising, but very few people will dare to do this, right?
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December 20, 2020, 10:35:21 AM
#62
Fact is nobody on the planet can predict bitcoin and it's movement.

Yeah, It's true in all assets but a group of whale with massive holdings can change the trend of BTC in a split second especially on the current condition of BTC which is fear is already high since its already break the long time ATH record. I'm sure that many traders that playing futures will setup a long position at this stage that's why I'm what will gonna happened on the next move of BTC.
legendary
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December 20, 2020, 10:29:28 AM
#61
Why is it so hard to understand that we are in front of the best performing asset of all times? I know that for traders can be hard to understand this but after 11 years I guess that should be clear by now, shouldn't be?
Forget about TA and keep stacking satoshis!
legendary
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December 20, 2020, 10:20:23 AM
#60
Fact is nobody on the planet can predict bitcoin and it's movement.
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December 20, 2020, 02:58:57 AM
#59
Let's not go over OP too much, dude didn't know the right situation and he failed and he was wrong but we have seen a lot of people who are wrong as well, from both bulls and bears. I have seen a ton of people who expected to be over 100k+ by now, there was even that famous guy who said we would be a million dollars by now as well, they were all wrong too and we didn't dropped that much, so I can't really say that we are always right, I have also seen a lot of bears who said bitcoin "will die" and it never did neither, they were wrong too. This is just a guy who was wrong along with so many people, thousands were wrong at a time and this is just one more.

I think it is very difficult to predict what bitcoin will do, which is why I am not going to blame anyone who said bitcoin will be this or that and come out wrong, that is nature of bitcoin since it is hard to predict.
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December 18, 2020, 07:24:15 PM
#58
I never really understood why people would be ever against bitcoin and its increase. Always support buying bitcoin, I am not so much bullish on bitcoin from here on out neither but I would still suggest people to buy bitcoin because even if you do not make that kind of return, you are going to make some kind of return for sure. That is why I would say best method of profiting in crypto world would be buying bitcoin and maybe some other big name altcoins as well.

If you ever think that making a bigger profit path is going through selling crypto, remember that crypto could always increase and you could miss out on your future profits, even if you have some bitcoin and price falls, that doesn't mean you lost money, that just means you have a chance to buy more bitcoin for cheaper instead of losing. That is what I have been doing for years now and it works perfectly.

Losing money was stressful in times of need, but if you're mot giving up you're going to recover it back through patience and determination. Every opportunity given by market downturns, would accumulate your holdings everytime it create another bounces. Bullrun literally proves it all, and not is the of predictions went into reality.
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December 18, 2020, 07:23:20 PM
#57
The 2nd time today that I've seen someone advise to move their btcs to alts. Way back a month ago that seems a good idea but it's proven to always keep the faith with bitcoin.
And just as today, it didn't have broken our expectation. This is why bitcoin is the safest if you want long term run and profit in the crypto market.

There's no such thing about safe and you can say such thing just because bitcoin did really move forward as anticipated but if it goes to the opposite side then you would definitely say different thing.
When it comes to technical aspects then we can say that it did work when the price do correlates nor make in line with it but if not then you would say that there no effect or your analysis wasnt valid at all.
Lots had made out earlier and it turns out to be right but those are just the possibilities because the price could only go neither go and up.Breaking ATh wasnt even an expected event
yet majority been saying that it will be break out in year 2021 and the price had broke it in no time.
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December 18, 2020, 06:25:14 PM
#56
The 2nd time today that I've seen someone advise to move their btcs to alts. Way back a month ago that seems a good idea but it's proven to always keep the faith with bitcoin.
And just as today, it didn't have broken our expectation. This is why bitcoin is the safest if you want long term run and profit in the crypto market.

The problem is that when such advice appears, it's too late to follow it. After all, they appear after all the events (the growth of the market and the growth of altcoins, which are historically growing faster) have taken place. At such a time, it's time to get out of them, because at the first signs of a trend change, they will fall both against the dollar and against bitcoin.
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December 18, 2020, 02:39:16 PM
#55
I never really understood why people would be ever against bitcoin and its increase. Always support buying bitcoin, I am not so much bullish on bitcoin from here on out neither but I would still suggest people to buy bitcoin because even if you do not make that kind of return, you are going to make some kind of return for sure. That is why I would say best method of profiting in crypto world would be buying bitcoin and maybe some other big name altcoins as well.

If you ever think that making a bigger profit path is going through selling crypto, remember that crypto could always increase and you could miss out on your future profits, even if you have some bitcoin and price falls, that doesn't mean you lost money, that just means you have a chance to buy more bitcoin for cheaper instead of losing. That is what I have been doing for years now and it works perfectly.
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December 18, 2020, 05:10:08 AM
#54
BTC technicals are against $20,000. I don't think holding now is a good idea.
Maybe a good idea is to move the money from BTC to altcoins.

Gawd, I hope nobody took your terrible advice.

BTC technicals? What a crock.

Just sell your fiat and shitcoins and keep your wealth in real money: real Bitcoin.

Perhaps s/he took their own advice and that's why they are so quiet on this thread ...
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December 17, 2020, 05:37:10 PM
#53
The 2nd time today that I've seen someone advise to move their btcs to alts. Way back a month ago that seems a good idea but it's proven to always keep the faith with bitcoin.
And just as today, it didn't have broken our expectation. This is why bitcoin is the safest if you want long term run and profit in the crypto market.
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December 17, 2020, 05:33:49 PM
#52
BTC technicals are against $20,000. I don't think holding now is a good idea.
Maybe a good idea is to move the money from BTC to altcoins.

Gawd, I hope nobody took your terrible advice.

BTC technicals? What a crock.

Just sell your fiat and shitcoins and keep your wealth in real money: real Bitcoin.
legendary
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December 17, 2020, 05:06:28 PM
#51
Hard to take any negative view right now but the place to watch might be 4hr bars.    Here the blue line is the 4hr average price and all day we've kept above that, some rapid strong momentum lifting BTC.    So to be negative we need to be trading below this so the days sentiment is taken as profits by various traders.

https://twitter.com/goodmovieslike/status/1339628620789276676
https://loganlucky.contently.com/
2nd chart is actual 4hr bars, all green in sequence so the two charts reflect each other.   The trend shown is daily gain since Nov start.
While I agree the technicals look slightly off, I feel like there is also good momentum too

The weekly and monthly momentum is absolutely nuts. Haven't seen strength like this since early 2017, obviously. This is an extremely strong bull trend that will sustain for months to come, regardless of what happens on the 4-hour or daily charts. Those lower time frames will just provide shakeouts within the larger rally.
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December 17, 2020, 04:19:32 PM
#50
BTC technicals are against $20,000. I don't think holding now is a good idea.
Maybe a good idea is to move the money from BTC to altcoins.

Two weeks later..and the technicals were a bit ...not technicall
And this prediction was coming from a guy who claimed to roll in hundred percent gains and also tried, fortunately unsuccessfully to manage other people's money around here or to charge for advices that would earn you, how much is zero?  Grin
Which shows that for the most part those claims are just there to try to entice people to invest with them, unless hard evidence is shown about previous success then all of those claims should be assumed to be false, after all anyone can create a strategy that uses a lot of indicators and that on the surface it may seem profitable but when applied to the markets it does not work.


TA works because people see it. People see it so it works. Its a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Work on probabilities and you will never lose money on trading.

TA works because you can see in TA whatever you want, you can put a billion indicators on a chart and eventually one will fit perfectly...
This is called overfitting and it is a serious problem with trading, you can always find a combination of indicators that will predict perfectly what the market did in the past, which is why actual successful strategies are supposed to consist of nothing more but 3 or 4 indicators at max always with the same settings, if a strategy can prove itself to be profitable in many different markets over many different market conditions then the strategy could be considered to be profitable, but obviously such a strategy will not win 100% of the time as most scammers claim.
STT
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December 17, 2020, 03:04:20 PM
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Hard to take any negative view right now but the place to watch might be 4hr bars.    Here the blue line is the 4hr average price and all day we've kept above that, some rapid strong momentum lifting BTC.    So to be negative we need to be trading below this so the days sentiment is taken as profits by various traders.

   

2nd chart is actual 4hr bars, all green in sequence so the two charts reflect each other.   The trend shown is daily gain since Nov start.
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December 16, 2020, 04:52:42 PM
#48
Traders who choose to buy altcoins expect a higher return compared to buying bitcoin at the current market condition, still uncertain whether to rise or drop to a certain point like the last time it fell to $16,3k before recover to $19k again. We can expect bitcoin to surpass $20k this year or in January 2021.
In this case, I prefer to buy altcoins if bitcoin manages to break the ath as altcoins will follow the path of bitcoin days or weeks afterwards.

This is a smart strategy as altcoins tend to rise faster than bitcoin in a global bull market. But as has happened many times, sometimes bitcoin grows and its dominance grows i.e. bitcoin sucks funds from other altcoins, so when bitcoin grows, they fall.
When the sentiment market is good for bitcoin then there will be many investor who will look bitcoin as a main place not altcoin. The investor will only look bitcoin to gain profit they will ignore altcoin price movement. Same as your, I often to see many altcoin just dump when bitcoin price is increasing, but when bitcoin is facing a sideaway in a lower time frame than altcoin price movement going crazy. The price just move fastly and you'll be late if you buy at the desired price, so to me in uptrend market like now you will be safe if you trade bitcoin only.
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