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September 20, 2014, 10:24:14 AM
#47
I made another identicon generator: http://jsfiddle.net/Lqfrmao8/

Original Bitcoin address: 1PPJ5x74KEo9euEiSJKxyBUfHMRQrXKL1f



Fake Bitcoin address: 1PPJ5x74KEo9evEiSJKxyBUfHMRQrXKL1f





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September 20, 2014, 07:02:56 AM
#46
I made a simple identicon generator (live demo): http://jsfiddle.net/6khq75d3/

Original Bitcoin address: 1PPJ5x74KEo9euEiSJKxyBUfHMRQrXKL1f



Fake Bitcoin address: 1PPJ5x74KEo9evEiSJKxyBUfHMRQrXKL1f

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September 19, 2014, 08:34:12 PM
#45

Thanks. It appears to be much less sophisticated than other approaches.
Is there any info about the algorithm?
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September 18, 2014, 09:04:12 AM
#44
Just found this thread, but the site seems to be down.
What happened?
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September 20, 2013, 09:29:03 PM
#43
Replying to myself again Roll Eyes, but just for fun if we disregard prefix we can fairly easily match 32 bits:

1KbhFQVEUk8wMVtiuBURZAQ1PXnsDUqcag


1EEwcrjaJkWLLZDuZA2Rhob3aVM8NwY5tR



or 40 bits:

1NcE7wksPMcydG7bfsGsGdjf2ckzXSfw1R


1H26EaqCrbdHZk2SvqvZDfPHqYGbYqQsJj


Not going to try for 48 bits on the CPU, but with OpenCL code on a GPU it shouldn't be bad either.

Interesting; I was thinking there probably aren't enough permutations of a default identicon to cover the huge possibility set for Bitcoin addresses, and that pretty much proves it. This sort of attack could be made less likely by modifying the identicon library with some tweaks. Namely, to not allow so many color variations, so an attacker can't just get a purple color close to the other purple (the biggest weakness, I think), but then those bits of the SHA hash have to be re-used as something else.

The default Identicon is a 3x3 grid, but really there's only three different sprites used (corners, edges, and center) and two colors. If you make only the opposing pairs match (top/bottom, left/right, NW/SE, SW/NE, and center), you've got five instead of three, and each pair could have its own color (net gain of 3 colors), without it looking too messy. I need to sit down and figure out how many bits would need to be re-used if the color palette was reduced... I might put my code where my mouth is on this one, since it seems like a fun project to tackle!
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June 12, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
#42
nice!
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June 06, 2013, 04:30:40 AM
#41
In particular, could this be used to show users a their passwords before they type their passwords in? To confirm they are on a genuine site?

For example, a site saves passwords in a hashed and salted format. When they go to login, they type in their username, uponwhich the site shows an identicon of their password hash. If that identicon matches what they originally saw when they signed up, they know they are on the legitimate website.

Would that work?
There is a problem... an attacker can easily find out the pattern by simply entering the user name into the original site. You would need two passwords to be able to do this.
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June 05, 2013, 09:41:16 AM
#40
I like this "bitaddress mandala"   Cheesy
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June 05, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
#39
In particular, could this be used to show users a their passwords before they type their passwords in? To confirm they are on a genuine site?

For example, a site saves passwords in a hashed and salted format. When they go to login, they type in their username, uponwhich the site shows an identicon of their password hash. If that identicon matches what they originally saw when they signed up, they know they are on the legitimate website.

Would that work?
Interesting idea. I would add another hash round before creating the identicon for safety. That would be a cool feature.
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March 04, 2013, 03:49:10 PM
#38
What if the firstbits are superposed on the picture (normally shown 6 letters or so in the bottom of identicon, without leading 1) to make the match harder? So both reading and abstract pattern recognition is engaged at once.

Replying to myself again Roll Eyes, but just for fun if we disregard prefix we can fairly easily match 32 bits:

1KbhFQVEUk8wMVtiuBURZAQ1PXnsDUqcag


1EEwcrjaJkWLLZDuZA2Rhob3aVM8NwY5tR



or 40 bits:

1NcE7wksPMcydG7bfsGsGdjf2ckzXSfw1R


1H26EaqCrbdHZk2SvqvZDfPHqYGbYqQsJj


Not going to try for 48 bits on the CPU, but with OpenCL code on a GPU it shouldn't be bad either.
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March 02, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
#37
In particular, could this be used to show users a their passwords before they type their passwords in? To confirm they are on a genuine site?

For example, a site saves passwords in a hashed and salted format. When they go to login, they type in their username, uponwhich the site shows an identicon of their password hash. If that identicon matches what they originally saw when they signed up, they know they are on the legitimate website.

Would that work?
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March 02, 2013, 12:44:35 PM
#36
Any Update on this?
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November 10, 2012, 08:09:52 PM
#35
This is a cool idea.  I had been reading the first and last few characters to make sure the address was right. This is even easier.
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November 10, 2012, 12:18:05 PM
#34
If its based on SHA1, does that mean it can be cracked (I have no idea, but I know the current standard is SHA3)
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November 05, 2012, 07:14:56 PM
#33
rageface.me   lol

Not cute at all.  Angry
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November 05, 2012, 04:25:37 PM
#32
1AgwF965rwYpK6J8N3CbCxfRAdu7nSHt9v



1P7WdPJrZEXTmbjD5bzqNwNtNDuoTqDGu



1Fq6TL3wT4v4tbgW7CaGTyS42hsjmCHPdB





rageface.me   lol
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November 05, 2012, 04:18:45 PM
#31
Its like https for bitcoin adresses  Cheesy
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November 05, 2012, 04:07:20 PM
#30
Doing the math on the robohash it looks like it uses 22-24 bits depending on the settings to get an exact match, so roughly equivalent to matching 4 characters of the address.  It could add some extra security combined with something else but by itself yes it is fairly trivial to match.
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November 05, 2012, 02:59:16 PM
#29

The robohash robot is great. Optionally print out an image of the robot next to the identicon?

Users could check that the identicon maps to the robot and robots are easier to remember than patterns.

The robots would be good branding for bitcoin. It looks like robohash is open source.

Well it does seem that mskwik did just prove robohash to be useless for our purposes.

Not completely, it would be extra hard to find a robot collision AND collide the first few chars.
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November 05, 2012, 12:20:40 PM
#28

The robohash robot is great. Optionally print out an image of the robot next to the identicon?

Users could check that the identicon maps to the robot and robots are easier to remember than patterns.

The robots would be good branding for bitcoin. It looks like robohash is open source.

Well it does seem that mskwik did just prove robohash to be useless for our purposes.
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