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Topic: BTCC announces Titanium physical bitcoins - page 3. (Read 7725 times)

donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
I got really lucky. BTCC also listed my coin with the full value but I didn't get charged with VATs at all. I guess it slipped through customs  Undecided. I still don't like their solution of giving a discount on a future purchase. That forces you to buy a new product instead of fixing their fault. A huge company like BTCC could easily refund the select people that were overcharged with VATs and still make a decent profit. Handling issues like this in a professional matter is also great advertisement and could increase their sales.
Let's see what they do..
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1989
฿uy ฿itcoin
I got really lucky. BTCC also listed my coin with the full value but I didn't get charged with VATs at all. I guess it slipped through customs  Undecided. I still don't like their solution of giving a discount on a future purchase. That forces you to buy a new product instead of fixing their fault. A huge company like BTCC could easily refund the select people that were overcharged with VATs and still make a decent profit. Handling issues like this in a professional matter is also great advertisement and could increase their sales.
legendary
Activity: 1499
Merit: 1164
Two weeks after shipment, FedEx send my bill 124.22 EUR  for one coin (one Bitcoin)
Thank you BTCC for extra tax. Burned my trust !



In their defense, certain shipments (few shipments) were listed at the full value of the coin.  They did say they would offer a discount on another coin purchase with a discount of the VAT charged.  I suggest you contact them and/or complain to FedEx about it.

VAT on my coins ended up being 85 Canadian for a large shipment.  I have yet to see if FedEx gets me for the import to the USA, but with the size of my order, I could get hurt.

Also, if you get a discount and/or coupon that you don't want to use, I am sure someone else would like to get it (at a discounted rate) from you.
sr. member
Activity: 449
Merit: 251
CryptoPhysical.com
Two weeks after shipment, FedEx send my bill 124.22 EUR  for one coin (one Bitcoin)
Thank you BTCC for extra tax. Burned my trust !

legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
To anyone interested in statistics, like how many coins there are etc..

Unofficial BTCC Coin Tracker: https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html

The data is updated every hour.

Nicely done - really great work.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1415
Happy to set up a new group buy if anyone is interested.....

thanks

Possibly interested
legendary
Activity: 1499
Merit: 1164
Got some discount codes for 5btc coin emailed based on 1btc coin purchase... Looks like it was a mass email, some others should be getting them too.

Yup - Just emailed in questions about the code being used for multiple qty.  

Happy to set up a new group buy if anyone is interested.....

thanks

Interested.

Just got an email from the tracker that new Fives were mined!
I think they started shipping them too

They've been mining them for a couple days now.
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
Just got an email from the tracker that new Fives were mined!
I think they started shipping them too
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
Got some discount codes for 5btc coin emailed based on 1btc coin purchase... Looks like it was a mass email, some others should be getting them too.
legendary
Activity: 1511
Merit: 1072
quack
Just got an email from the tracker that new Fives were mined!
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
Oh and I think the "V" in V Series stands for the roman numeral 5, of course I may be wrong.
They may be counting down from V (5), IV (4), III (3), II (2), I (1) or up, however why start with 5 not 1?

Maybe it's the 5th series after the tests or relates to the different materials they are going to use for different series?
The 5BTC version is still a V Series, maybe different designs?
They may be counting down from how many millions Bitcoins are still to be mined, currently 5,364,100...

I'm only assuming... Maybe is just a V.
I was born curious  Grin

Or.... "fifth anniversary"

yah good one...  Smiley
http://www.econotimes.com/BTCC-celebrates-fifth-anniversary-launches-Five-Bitcoin-titanium-coin-219691

Defo think it's Vth anniversary Smiley
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
Oh and I think the "V" in V Series stands for the roman numeral 5, of course I may be wrong.
They may be counting down from V (5), IV (4), III (3), II (2), I (1) or up, however why start with 5 not 1?

Maybe it's the 5th series after the tests or relates to the different materials they are going to use for different series?
The 5BTC version is still a V Series, maybe different designs?
They may be counting down from how many millions Bitcoins are still to be mined, currently 5,364,100...

I'm only assuming... Maybe is just a V.
I was born curious  Grin

Or.... "fifth anniversary"

yah good one...  Smiley
http://www.econotimes.com/BTCC-celebrates-fifth-anniversary-launches-Five-Bitcoin-titanium-coin-219691
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
Oh and I think the "V" in V Series stands for the roman numeral 5, of course I may be wrong.
They may be counting down from V (5), IV (4), III (3), II (2), I (1) or up, however why start with 5 not 1?

Maybe it's the 5th series after the tests or relates to the different materials they are going to use for different series?
The 5BTC version is still a V Series, maybe different designs?
They may be counting down from how many millions Bitcoins are still to be mined, currently 5,364,100...

I'm only assuming... Maybe is just a V.
I was born curious  Grin

Or.... "fifth anniversary"

yah good one...  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1499
Merit: 1164
Oh and I think the "V" in V Series stands for the roman numeral 5, of course I may be wrong.
They may be counting down from V (5), IV (4), III (3), II (2), I (1) or up, however why start with 5 not 1?

Maybe it's the 5th series after the tests or relates to the different materials they are going to use for different series?
The 5BTC version is still a V Series, maybe different designs?
They may be counting down from how many millions Bitcoins are still to be mined, currently 5,364,100...

I'm only assuming... Maybe is just a V.
I was born curious  Grin

Or.... "fifth anniversary"
sr. member
Activity: 485
Merit: 294
To anyone interested in statistics, like how many coins there are etc..

Unofficial BTCC Coin Tracker: https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html

The data is updated every hour.

Really nicely done!  I like it.
(It's also nice that these V-Series coins are all straight from the coinbase transaction, so it's incredibly easy and transparent as to the number of coins minted and redeemed.)

Since you've done such a nice job with your website at monitoring our production, I'll give you some cool tidbits and also an important correction:

1) the 50 address in your first 2 blocks (393716 & 393816) are actually NOT mined by us at BTCC.  Therefore, they were not part of any BTCC Mint coins at all.  I'm not sure how your algorithm picked up these two blocks.  If you could, please remove it from your DB so that users have more accurate information.

2) the next 4 blocks (394051, 394111, 405240, and 405251) were ours, but actually mined into our "artists proof" coins.  These are not the ones you see for sale now.  We've been using them for testing, which is why you see some redemptions. We have also saved some as souvenirs, and given some away to people.

3) blocks 409881 and onwards, are truly the 2016 V Series, One Bitcoin editions, made of Titanium.  Some early ones here have also been used for testing, photo shoots, and some damaged ones have been redeemed, etc.

Keep up the good work Anduck!

And stay tuned for more exciting products from BTCC Mint!

thanks,
Bobby




Anduck, if you want to determine which blocks are for BTCC Mint coins, you can look for the "BTCC" in the coinbase block header of the transaction.  All BTCC Mint coins should have that in the header of coinbase.

This should help you filter out all of the non-BTCC blocks.



Thanks, Bobby!

Good feedback. I've now set the system to only look for BTCC-mined blocks. Also updated the site a little - shows the Five Bitcoin series coins now too.

These coins are definitely cool! I really like the material choice and that the bitcoins are mined straight into them.

-A


Anduck, if you could, please add back the 4 earlier blocks?  (394051, 394111, 405240, and 405251)

Those are indeed BTCC Mint coins, just artists proofs, so it would be good to have them tracked as well, as some of them are in the public.


thanks,
Bobby
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
I also have to say the coins even inside the plastic case have dust particles and some minor scuffs but can't tell for sure unless I open it up which I'm reluctant to do.
Some of the paperwork shows signs of titanium dust.

Need to make sure you guys assemble them in a clean environment.
As a collector I like to leave coins unopened in their plastic containers so would be great if this could improve.

Maybe "dirty coins" will have more value?  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
BTW do you guys remember the BTCC April Fouls Video?

Bitcoin Mining Documentary Aired in China

At 2:31 you see the below:



Zoomed In:



And flat:



You can clearly see it's a gold coloured coin and it says 1 Bitcoin (with the number instead of "one" like in the Titanium version).
Also you don't see any print of V Series or the year. So I presume these were from the tests that Bobby mentioned.

The question in the screenshot seems appropriate too: how much would you sell a Bitcoin like this for?  Cheesy

Maybe they have tested different materials before deciding on Titanium but I think there will be some surprises in the future, maybe Titanium (gold or silver plated coins)?
Or made of other unusual metals for coins?

Oh and I think the "V" in V Series stands for the roman numeral 5, of course I may be wrong.
They may be counting down from V (5), IV (4), III (3), II (2), I (1) or up, however why start with 5 not 1?

Maybe it's the 5th series after the tests or relates to the different materials they are going to use for different series?
The 5BTC version is still a V Series, maybe different designs?
They may be counting down from how many millions Bitcoins are still to be mined, currently 5,364,100...

I'm only assuming... Maybe is just a V.
I was born curious  Grin
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
The coins are a bit pricey (6 BTC). Especially since the coin isn't made of precious metal (or traditionally minted). Any reason why there is a 1 BTC premium on the coin?

Yes, it is pricey.  1 BTC premium is not cheap, and we fully understand that.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to address this issue on price.

The reason is simple: We are a real business and we want to make a profit, so that we can continue to operate, and fulfill our vision and mission of bringing to the world the most convenient and trustworthy digital currency services.  That's BTCC, and that's our passion.

I'm sure there are others out there, who wants to make physical bitcoins in a non-profit fashion.  I think that's also great and I commend them.  (As a consumer, I'm sure you would prefer to get everything you want, at the cheapest price.)

However, for us, we are operating as a company, spending money in R&D and marketing, and even created a really nice video showcasing the creation process of our Titanium physical bitcoins.  Hope you've watched and enjoyed that video.  These things take real effort; many employees involved, and real amounts of money.

Here's a link to the video again, in case you haven't seen it yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkmYwsd-VzU

In terms of the material, Titanium versus precious metal:  I've answered this before, in many ways, I truly feel that Titanium is better than gold or silver for physical bitcoins.  As you know, gold and silver, due to the precious metal nature, is still restricted at customs and border controls when going in/out of a country.  Do you really want to deal with that hassle when moving your physical bitcoins?  Besides, here's the most important question: Are you really buying the physical bitcoin for its (precious) metal value, or is it the bitcoin and the uniqueness of the newly mined bitcoin that is truly valuable?  I like the latter, and not the former.

With your help and support, we hope to be successful with this new line of business at BTCC.  And if we are, then we promise to continue to bring you more great products from BTCC Mint.  Trust me, there's lots more coming!  ;-)

thanks,
Bobby

Hi Bobby,
I have some feedback regarding the 1 btc coin.  I've observed what appear to be air bubbles under the hologram sticker on some coins.  Another alternative is that it's dust or particles between the hologram sticker and the surface of the coin.  Hopefully this helps with improving your quality control.  Also, some coins have tiny dings that appear to be post-manufacturing process, maybe during handling.  As a collector, I'm crazy about perfect quality Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1511
Merit: 1072
quack
To anyone interested in statistics, like how many coins there are etc..

Unofficial BTCC Coin Tracker: https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html

The data is updated every hour.

Really nicely done!  I like it.
(It's also nice that these V-Series coins are all straight from the coinbase transaction, so it's incredibly easy and transparent as to the number of coins minted and redeemed.)

Since you've done such a nice job with your website at monitoring our production, I'll give you some cool tidbits and also an important correction:

1) the 50 address in your first 2 blocks (393716 & 393816) are actually NOT mined by us at BTCC.  Therefore, they were not part of any BTCC Mint coins at all.  I'm not sure how your algorithm picked up these two blocks.  If you could, please remove it from your DB so that users have more accurate information.

2) the next 4 blocks (394051, 394111, 405240, and 405251) were ours, but actually mined into our "artists proof" coins.  These are not the ones you see for sale now.  We've been using them for testing, which is why you see some redemptions. We have also saved some as souvenirs, and given some away to people.

3) blocks 409881 and onwards, are truly the 2016 V Series, One Bitcoin editions, made of Titanium.  Some early ones here have also been used for testing, photo shoots, and some damaged ones have been redeemed, etc.

Keep up the good work Anduck!

And stay tuned for more exciting products from BTCC Mint!

thanks,
Bobby




Anduck, if you want to determine which blocks are for BTCC Mint coins, you can look for the "BTCC" in the coinbase block header of the transaction.  All BTCC Mint coins should have that in the header of coinbase.

This should help you filter out all of the non-BTCC blocks.



Thanks, Bobby!

Good feedback. I've now set the system to only look for BTCC-mined blocks. Also updated the site a little - shows the Five Bitcoin series coins now too.

These coins are definitely cool! I really like the material choice and that the bitcoins are mined straight into them.

-A
sr. member
Activity: 485
Merit: 294
To anyone interested in statistics, like how many coins there are etc..

Unofficial BTCC Coin Tracker: https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html

The data is updated every hour.

Really nicely done!  I like it.
(It's also nice that these V-Series coins are all straight from the coinbase transaction, so it's incredibly easy and transparent as to the number of coins minted and redeemed.)

Since you've done such a nice job with your website at monitoring our production, I'll give you some cool tidbits and also an important correction:

1) the 50 address in your first 2 blocks (393716 & 393816) are actually NOT mined by us at BTCC.  Therefore, they were not part of any BTCC Mint coins at all.  I'm not sure how your algorithm picked up these two blocks.  If you could, please remove it from your DB so that users have more accurate information.

2) the next 4 blocks (394051, 394111, 405240, and 405251) were ours, but actually mined into our "artists proof" coins.  These are not the ones you see for sale now.  We've been using them for testing, which is why you see some redemptions. We have also saved some as souvenirs, and given some away to people.

3) blocks 409881 and onwards, are truly the 2016 V Series, One Bitcoin editions, made of Titanium.  Some early ones here have also been used for testing, photo shoots, and some damaged ones have been redeemed, etc.

Keep up the good work Anduck!

And stay tuned for more exciting products from BTCC Mint!

thanks,
Bobby




Anduck, if you want to determine which blocks are for BTCC Mint coins, you can look for the "BTCC" in the coinbase block header of the transaction.  All BTCC Mint coins should have that in the header of coinbase.

This should help you filter out all of the non-BTCC blocks.

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