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newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
September 28, 2014, 10:07:02 AM
Well, today is totally lost. Between dealing with investor support issues I have to spend hours fiddling with MGW server.

I have way too much coding to do to be stuck doing MGW server maintenance!

So far the issues have not been related to MGW itself, server out of RAM, new versions, shellshock, test versions crashing and messing up the cache, etc.

As of next weekend, I will formally stop running MGW servers. Until the production servers are running, there wont be any MGW servers.

I suggest to withdraw all the MGW assets ASAP. if they get stuck after I shutdown the MGW on my dev servers, it could take a while for me to figure out how to properly to manual withdraws. I need to code for 14 to 20 hours at a stretch and I cannot be monitoring people's deposit/withdraws that are not appearing after 17 blocks. So if you do not withdraw before the weekend, the funds will be safe but inaccessible for some weeks.

James


Is this why price dropped today? lol to all those who sold. BTCD under .012 = NOM NOM NOM ... James is the man.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
September 28, 2014, 09:31:32 AM

this would be ideal, but would require everybody to get quite a few accts if they have to get one for each acct that staked, especially if change addresses start staking. Also, this would make it hard to stay anon.

It would be much simpler to just convert the SuperNET dividend to BTCD (so this wont work for any asset dividends, just the "cash" dividends) and this would be like a big mining pool, Once it is BTCD then it can be sent directly to the staking addresses without any user involvement

James

Thank you James.

this finally answers my question.. however it contradicts the documentation.

Quote
Revenues received from the services detailed above and any others added by participating
cryptocurrencies will be distributed in the following proportions:
 5 percent for BTCD stakers, via an associated NXT address

To sum:

currently BTCD stakers get approx 5% of the staked coins per year.   additionally once superNet pays dividends, 5% of those dividends will also go to the staked BTCD addresses.
sr. member
Activity: 470
Merit: 250
September 28, 2014, 07:11:36 AM
Guys please help me set up wallet staking.

Just send some BTCD to your wallet and leave your wallet open (or open it whenever you are at your computer). It should start staking after a few days. Let us know if you're having a specific problem.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1055
September 28, 2014, 01:25:20 AM
Guys, can BTCD cost $ 10.00 one day or not?

Sure it can!

PANIC BUY!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
September 28, 2014, 01:09:00 AM
Guys, can BTCD cost $ 10.00 one day or not?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
September 28, 2014, 12:25:21 AM
Well, today is totally lost. Between dealing with investor support issues I have to spend hours fiddling with MGW server.

I have way too much coding to do to be stuck doing MGW server maintenance!

So far the issues have not been related to MGW itself, server out of RAM, new versions, shellshock, test versions crashing and messing up the cache, etc.

As of next weekend, I will formally stop running MGW servers. Until the production servers are running, there wont be any MGW servers.

I suggest to withdraw all the MGW assets ASAP. if they get stuck after I shutdown the MGW on my dev servers, it could take a while for me to figure out how to properly to manual withdraws. I need to code for 14 to 20 hours at a stretch and I cannot be monitoring people's deposit/withdraws that are not appearing after 17 blocks. So if you do not withdraw before the weekend, the funds will be safe but inaccessible for some weeks.

James
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
September 27, 2014, 11:18:41 PM
this is a great idea, thanks for the clarification  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
September 27, 2014, 11:07:01 PM

Do you understand that when you are staking, the address that stakes is recorded on the blockchain?
so if you stake, your address that staked is recorded
this has nothing to do with your public address
ALL BTCD addresses that stake will get recorded
Each time an address stakes, it will get a share
all shares added up to calculate each addresses proportion
total dividend is divided by number of shares to calculate BTCD per share
each address is allocated its BTCD based on this
BTCD is sent to each address according to the shares

Let us say there are 30000 blocks that staked in a month and 300 BTCD is the total dividend amount. Each staking is thus worth 300/30000 = .01 BTCD. If your addresses staked a total of 55 times, that would be 0.55 BTCD total, but since we dont know who controls what BTCD address, the .55 BTCD would be sent proportionally to each address you have based on the number of times they staked.

I hope this is clear enough

James

James.  I understand how staking works..

Please bear with me.. I must be missing something simple about this...

What about the payments above and beyond the normal staking.. from superNet.

from this doc  http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdf

It says that  5% of payments for supernet stuff will go to BTCD stakers---
Quote
5 percent for BTCD stakers, via an associated NXT address



...  are the payments above and beyond the normal staking???


btcd addresses are mapped to nxt addresses.

so what you have to do to get the extra from superNET is stake btcd.
only people who stake btcd will be eligible for the superNET dividends.
you will get the dividends on top of the btcd staking interest which will be transfered to your corresponding nxt address.

i hope this makes it a bit clearer?
this would be ideal, but would require everybody to get quite a few accts if they have to get one for each acct that staked, especially if change addresses start staking. Also, this would make it hard to stay anon.

It would be much simpler to just convert the SuperNET dividend to BTCD (so this wont work for any asset dividends, just the "cash" dividends) and this would be like a big mining pool, Once it is BTCD then it can be sent directly to the staking addresses without any user involvement

James
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
September 27, 2014, 11:04:30 PM

Do you understand that when you are staking, the address that stakes is recorded on the blockchain?
so if you stake, your address that staked is recorded
this has nothing to do with your public address
ALL BTCD addresses that stake will get recorded
Each time an address stakes, it will get a share
all shares added up to calculate each addresses proportion
total dividend is divided by number of shares to calculate BTCD per share
each address is allocated its BTCD based on this
BTCD is sent to each address according to the shares

Let us say there are 30000 blocks that staked in a month and 300 BTCD is the total dividend amount. Each staking is thus worth 300/30000 = .01 BTCD. If your addresses staked a total of 55 times, that would be 0.55 BTCD total, but since we dont know who controls what BTCD address, the .55 BTCD would be sent proportionally to each address you have based on the number of times they staked.

I hope this is clear enough

James

James.  I understand how staking works..

Please bear with me.. I must be missing something simple about this...

What about the payments above and beyond the normal staking.. from superNet.

from this doc  http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdf

It says that  5% of payments for supernet stuff will go to BTCD stakers---
Quote
5 percent for BTCD stakers, via an associated NXT address



...  are the payments above and beyond the normal staking???

yes, over and above.
SuperNET revenues * 5% -> converted to BTCD and allocated to BTCD stakers
why is this so confusing?
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
September 27, 2014, 10:17:38 PM

Do you understand that when you are staking, the address that stakes is recorded on the blockchain?
so if you stake, your address that staked is recorded
this has nothing to do with your public address
ALL BTCD addresses that stake will get recorded
Each time an address stakes, it will get a share
all shares added up to calculate each addresses proportion
total dividend is divided by number of shares to calculate BTCD per share
each address is allocated its BTCD based on this
BTCD is sent to each address according to the shares

Let us say there are 30000 blocks that staked in a month and 300 BTCD is the total dividend amount. Each staking is thus worth 300/30000 = .01 BTCD. If your addresses staked a total of 55 times, that would be 0.55 BTCD total, but since we dont know who controls what BTCD address, the .55 BTCD would be sent proportionally to each address you have based on the number of times they staked.

I hope this is clear enough

James

James.  I understand how staking works..

Please bear with me.. I must be missing something simple about this...

What about the payments above and beyond the normal staking.. from superNet.

from this doc  http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdf

It says that  5% of payments for supernet stuff will go to BTCD stakers---
Quote
5 percent for BTCD stakers, via an associated NXT address



...  are the payments above and beyond the normal staking???


btcd addresses are mapped to nxt addresses.

so what you have to do to get the extra from superNET is stake btcd.
only people who stake btcd will be eligible for the superNET dividends.
you will get the dividends on top of the btcd staking interest which will be transfered to your corresponding nxt address.

i hope this makes it a bit clearer?
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1001
September 27, 2014, 10:15:03 PM
Guys please help me set up wallet staking.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
September 27, 2014, 10:13:10 PM

Do you understand that when you are staking, the address that stakes is recorded on the blockchain?
so if you stake, your address that staked is recorded
this has nothing to do with your public address
ALL BTCD addresses that stake will get recorded
Each time an address stakes, it will get a share
all shares added up to calculate each addresses proportion
total dividend is divided by number of shares to calculate BTCD per share
each address is allocated its BTCD based on this
BTCD is sent to each address according to the shares

Let us say there are 30000 blocks that staked in a month and 300 BTCD is the total dividend amount. Each staking is thus worth 300/30000 = .01 BTCD. If your addresses staked a total of 55 times, that would be 0.55 BTCD total, but since we dont know who controls what BTCD address, the .55 BTCD would be sent proportionally to each address you have based on the number of times they staked.

I hope this is clear enough

James

James.  I understand how staking works..

Please bear with me.. I must be missing something simple about this...

What about the payments above and beyond the normal staking.. from superNet.

from this doc  http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdf

It says that  5% of payments for supernet stuff will go to BTCD stakers---
Quote
5 percent for BTCD stakers, via an associated NXT address



...  are the payments above and beyond the normal staking???
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
September 27, 2014, 09:43:13 PM
Hello, bought some more BTCD off an exchange and not my wallet won't stake? Coins are at least 24 hours old. Says 20 hrs till stake but shows none of my coins as staking? Thanks in advance. Was staking fine before I bought more.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Sam Mother Fuckin' Walters
September 27, 2014, 08:13:07 PM
We are considering BTCD to be added in the very first days of the release at: Coin Market App Let your voices be heard about getting BitcoinDark (BTCD) added into the mobile app. Smiley

Think we can compile a list of links to show up when people click on 'BitcoinDark' Link Directory?
Please feel free to tell us in the thread what should be added at Coin Market App ..

This is a good idea.. I'm interested in helping add some suggestions for links.

Other guys came to support, that's cool, let's keep it up guys.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
September 27, 2014, 01:22:38 PM

I do own some BTCD, Am I then one of the stakeholders?     I am still fuzzy on the details.

Jim


As long as you keep the wallet open and unlock to stake then you are one of the stakeholders. The point is to keep the network as secure as possible and only people staking can make that happen. Along with gaining more BTCD, the dividend is pretty much an incentive since so much of SuperNET will be riding on BTCD. There is also mention of checking how long each user stakes to determine fairness of dividend so that opening the wallet once a month for a few hours doesn't gain the same benefit as someone that always keeps theirs' open. Basically, you are rewarded twice over for keeping the wallet open and staking.



NICE... However it says the dividends will be paid to an associated nxt addy? how does that work.


you pick a public BTCD address to use. It doesnt have to have much BTCD in it. The software will automatically map this address to a NXT address (using its privkey), then it will make a NXT alias so that you can use the same public BTCD address even inside NXT

James

James,  Thank you much for answering.

My only question left is:
How do I 'pick a public BTCD address to use'?    And I assume I want to use the addy that holds all my btcd.
unless you want to impress girls, the public address should probably have a minimal amount of btcd.
now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

edit: just make a new address and it is your public address, or you can just use the address you have already been using. I am just nervous to publish accts with any big amounts in them

Ok, now I am confused,  How does it know I am staking X amount of coins if the addy I publish is empty?

edit:

Example:

1.  John has 1200 BTCD in a personal wallet and the wallet is currently staking at approx 5% year.
2.  John wants to publish his addy so he can receive the extra income from superNet to btcd stakeholders.

Question1.  HOW does he publish his address?
Question2.  How does the program know he is staking 1200 coins if the address he publishes is a new one?


Jim

sorry for all the questions, trying to understand what is going on.  I cannot find documentation other then the white paper and infomationsl PDF on superNet site.


all staking is visible on the blockchain. doesnt matter who controls the address for the staking based rewards as the dividend will be sent to the staking address (assuming it is bigger than some minimum level)


I understand how simple staking works, my wallet is getting paid normally.

Lets start over:

according to this document:  http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdf

Code:
Revenues received from the services detailed above and any others added by participating
cryptocurrencies will be distributed in the following proportions:
 5 percent for BTCD stakers, via an associated NXT address


Please explain how the BTCD stakers will get paid?     

James said I just publish a BTCD addy that does not have coins in it.. How then does the payment system know how much to pay me.. do I also associate the empty btcd addy with the one staking?  How is this done..Huh


Do you understand that when you are staking, the address that stakes is recorded on the blockchain?
so if you stake, your address that staked is recorded
this has nothing to do with your public address
ALL BTCD addresses that stake will get recorded
Each time an address stakes, it will get a share
all shares added up to calculate each addresses proportion
total dividend is divided by number of shares to calculate BTCD per share
each address is allocated its BTCD based on this
BTCD is sent to each address according to the shares

Let us say there are 30000 blocks that staked in a month and 300 BTCD is the total dividend amount. Each staking is thus worth 300/30000 = .01 BTCD. If your addresses staked a total of 55 times, that would be 0.55 BTCD total, but since we dont know who controls what BTCD address, the .55 BTCD would be sent proportionally to each address you have based on the number of times they staked.

I hope this is clear enough

James
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
September 27, 2014, 11:01:15 AM
New BTCD blockchain explorer http://explorebtcd.info/ Still need a lot of things to change. eg. latest transaction and amount. It would be nice to see staked amount with each block. I'm not a dev, doing my best I can with this for the BTCD community. If you visit the site from a mobile phone or tablet with camera, you will be able to use it to scan QR codes and search.
I'll try to make a rich list as well. I have no idea how yet, will look for info.

Any feedbacks are welcome.

BTCDDev please update the OP - Block Explorers. Thanks.

Looks great!

Not Found

The requested URL / was not found on this server.

Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at explorebtcd.info Port 80

Thanks noashh. Apologies from the server, still under development. Sometimes the insight-server stops working. I will look for the solution. Smiley
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
September 27, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
Just a note, I don't know if somebody else have posted it, but it seems like that cryptsy have fixed the BTCD withdrawal problem, is was able to get 100+ BTCD out in less than 15 min :-)

But i still better like bittrex.


Any one know if its best to buy

btc -> BTCD or BTC -> NXT -> BTCD
sr. member
Activity: 256
Merit: 250
September 27, 2014, 10:43:28 AM
New BTCD blockchain explorer http://explorebtcd.info/ Still need a lot of things to change. eg. latest transaction and amount. It would be nice to see staked amount with each block. I'm not a dev, doing my best I can with this for the BTCD community. If you visit the site from a mobile phone or tablet with camera, you will be able to use it to scan QR codes and search.
I'll try to make a rich list as well. I have no idea how yet, will look for info.

Any feedbacks are welcome.

BTCDDev please update the OP - Block Explorers. Thanks.

Looks great!

Not Found

The requested URL / was not found on this server.

Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at explorebtcd.info Port 80
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
September 27, 2014, 09:46:22 AM
New BTCD blockchain explorer http://explorebtcd.info/ Still need a lot of things to change. eg. latest transaction and amount. It would be nice to see staked amount with each block. I'm not a dev, doing my best I can with this for the BTCD community. If you visit the site from a mobile phone or tablet with camera, you will be able to use it to scan QR codes and search.
I'll try to make a rich list as well. I have no idea how yet, will look for info.

Any feedbacks are welcome.

BTCDDev please update the OP - Block Explorers. Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
September 27, 2014, 08:45:09 AM

I do own some BTCD, Am I then one of the stakeholders?     I am still fuzzy on the details.

Jim


As long as you keep the wallet open and unlock to stake then you are one of the stakeholders. The point is to keep the network as secure as possible and only people staking can make that happen. Along with gaining more BTCD, the dividend is pretty much an incentive since so much of SuperNET will be riding on BTCD. There is also mention of checking how long each user stakes to determine fairness of dividend so that opening the wallet once a month for a few hours doesn't gain the same benefit as someone that always keeps theirs' open. Basically, you are rewarded twice over for keeping the wallet open and staking.



NICE... However it says the dividends will be paid to an associated nxt addy? how does that work.


you pick a public BTCD address to use. It doesnt have to have much BTCD in it. The software will automatically map this address to a NXT address (using its privkey), then it will make a NXT alias so that you can use the same public BTCD address even inside NXT

James

James,  Thank you much for answering.

My only question left is:
How do I 'pick a public BTCD address to use'?    And I assume I want to use the addy that holds all my btcd.
unless you want to impress girls, the public address should probably have a minimal amount of btcd.
now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

edit: just make a new address and it is your public address, or you can just use the address you have already been using. I am just nervous to publish accts with any big amounts in them

Ok, now I am confused,  How does it know I am staking X amount of coins if the addy I publish is empty?

edit:

Example:

1.  John has 1200 BTCD in a personal wallet and the wallet is currently staking at approx 5% year.
2.  John wants to publish his addy so he can receive the extra income from superNet to btcd stakeholders.

Question1.  HOW does he publish his address?
Question2.  How does the program know he is staking 1200 coins if the address he publishes is a new one?


Jim

sorry for all the questions, trying to understand what is going on.  I cannot find documentation other then the white paper and infomationsl PDF on superNet site.


all staking is visible on the blockchain. doesnt matter who controls the address for the staking based rewards as the dividend will be sent to the staking address (assuming it is bigger than some minimum level)


I understand how simple staking works, my wallet is getting paid normally.

Lets start over:

according to this document:  http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdf

Code:
Revenues received from the services detailed above and any others added by participating
cryptocurrencies will be distributed in the following proportions:
 5 percent for BTCD stakers, via an associated NXT address


Please explain how the BTCD stakers will get paid?     

James said I just publish a BTCD addy that does not have coins in it.. How then does the payment system know how much to pay me.. do I also associate the empty btcd addy with the one staking?  How is this done..Huh

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