Rather than causing drama here, I think any disagreements between devs should be kept to PM's. We don't need to see this in the thread.
Agreed. But I guess you can't completely keep the FUD away.
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Agreed. But I guess you can't completely keep the FUD away.
Rather than causing drama here, I think any disagreements between devs should be kept to PM's. We don't need to see this in the thread.
Complete disclosure to the community!
Questions have been asked about the BTCD's pre-mine (~24,800 BTCD or ~1.5% of the total 1.6 million PoW Coins) here is the breakdown:
P.S. Because coins started to stake after 8 hours of maturity, the total # of BTCD during the PoW phase was less than 1.6 million, and ended up being ~1.174 Million BTCD
1) Azeh -- 5,386 BTCD
2) TorrnA -- 5,386 BTCD
3) BTCDdev --5,386 BTCD
Further development expenses:
Promotion payments before launch: 2,200 BTCD
Blog Posts/ Articles: 120
Node hosting: 10
Games: 90
Faucet funding: 3
Mac Wallet: 275
Windows Wallet: 500
Block Explorers: 550
OP translations: 360
Donations for independent work: 120
Media relations trial: 100
Anon tech development: 3500 (given to BTCDdev by James for his work)
Further development reserved for James after coming on board ~ 1000 (offered to TorrnA and BTCDdev by James)
Basically all pre-mine payments we're made before James joined as core developer. After which, James was offered a bounty for his services, however, said already had enough BTCD that he had bought on the open market and therefore offered his bounty to BTCDdev for his help coding, who didn't have funds to be able to purchase BTCD on the open market.
Furthermore, I (Azeh) was lucky enough to have BTC available in the early days to purchase the majority of the BTCD I hold on the open market and have subsequently funded other aspects of BTCD development with my personal funds.
Web Designer: 1000 BTCD
BitcoinPRbuzz: 1200 BTCD
See below for more details:
A portion of the original pre-mine was agreed upon by the three original developers (Azeh, TorrnA, BTCDdev) to be distributed evenly. This was well before the launch of BTCD and was well before any of us had any knowledge that James would agree to come on board to become the core developer for BTCD. The fact of the matter is, before the launch of BTCD the three original members worked for 2 months planning BTCD. Only one member, Azeh (me) had any BTC available to purchase BTCD on the open market.
Moreover, as others have said previously, If one wanted they could have bought the equivalent of the entire pre-mine in the early days for a few BTC.
Why is this being said now:
1) Continued questions from some community members that have asked for more detail about the pre-mine.
2) A current web developer has blackmailed the dev team for payment of between 5-15k BTCD payment. If we didn't oblige, he threatened to come to the forums to disclose this news and spread FUD.
3) So we can clear the air and move forward with a clean slate and tell said developer that their services are no longer wanted.
Unfortunately, a team member has gone rouge and has threatened the development team and by extension the BTCD community and therefore, I'd like to completely come clean before said member has a chance to spread FUD.
This member, out of respect, I'll leave anonymous and allow him to come out himself if he so chooses. However, this member continues to think that BTCD is some sort of conspiracy that has been concocted to enhance the value of NXT. This member continues to believe this even after explanations about how NXT just provides platform with which BTCD is built over and has nothing to do with original NXT developers or the currency itself.
The situation escalated after an argument with the web designer after which this individual threatened me that he "could just hit ctrl alt delete and walk away", and said that he had done so on the past to another coin.
Bottom Line:
Regarding the pre-mine, should we have been more transparent in the beginning. The short answer: Yes. However, I will blame myself because I only wanted to protect TorrnA and BTCDdev from any criticism who both put in a ton of work and deserve every BTCD they received from the pre-mine.
In addition, I'm not going to sit idly by while an individual attempts use threats and blackmail to achieve some sense of control and extort funds for their own gain. This is not in the spirit of what BTCD is all about. For the most part the development of BTCD has remained mostly "ego" free which is how we'd like to keep it. If development team members can't agree to this, then they have no place on the development team.
Lastly, yes, we are asking for donations. Donations are all being carefully recorded and held by TorrnA, who I can vouch for as a very trustworthy individual. All bounty payments going forward will be completely transparent and divulged to the community.
Questions have been asked about the BTCD's pre-mine (~24,800 BTCD or ~1.5% of the total 1.6 million PoW Coins) here is the breakdown:
P.S. Because coins started to stake after 8 hours of maturity, the total # of BTCD during the PoW phase was less than 1.6 million, and ended up being ~1.174 Million BTCD
1) Azeh -- 5,386 BTCD
2) TorrnA -- 5,386 BTCD
3) BTCDdev --5,386 BTCD
Further development expenses:
Promotion payments before launch: 2,200 BTCD
Blog Posts/ Articles: 120
Node hosting: 10
Games: 90
Faucet funding: 3
Mac Wallet: 275
Windows Wallet: 500
Block Explorers: 550
OP translations: 360
Donations for independent work: 120
Media relations trial: 100
Anon tech development: 3500 (given to BTCDdev by James for his work)
Further development reserved for James after coming on board ~ 1000 (offered to TorrnA and BTCDdev by James)
Basically all pre-mine payments we're made before James joined as core developer. After which, James was offered a bounty for his services, however, said already had enough BTCD that he had bought on the open market and therefore offered his bounty to BTCDdev for his help coding, who didn't have funds to be able to purchase BTCD on the open market.
Furthermore, I (Azeh) was lucky enough to have BTC available in the early days to purchase the majority of the BTCD I hold on the open market and have subsequently funded other aspects of BTCD development with my personal funds.
Web Designer: 1000 BTCD
BitcoinPRbuzz: 1200 BTCD
See below for more details:
A portion of the original pre-mine was agreed upon by the three original developers (Azeh, TorrnA, BTCDdev) to be distributed evenly. This was well before the launch of BTCD and was well before any of us had any knowledge that James would agree to come on board to become the core developer for BTCD. The fact of the matter is, before the launch of BTCD the three original members worked for 2 months planning BTCD. Only one member, Azeh (me) had any BTC available to purchase BTCD on the open market.
Moreover, as others have said previously, If one wanted they could have bought the equivalent of the entire pre-mine in the early days for a few BTC.
Why is this being said now:
1) Continued questions from some community members that have asked for more detail about the pre-mine.
2) A current web developer has blackmailed the dev team for payment of between 5-15k BTCD payment. If we didn't oblige, he threatened to come to the forums to disclose this news and spread FUD.
3) So we can clear the air and move forward with a clean slate and tell said developer that their services are no longer wanted.
Unfortunately, a team member has gone rouge and has threatened the development team and by extension the BTCD community and therefore, I'd like to completely come clean before said member has a chance to spread FUD.
This member, out of respect, I'll leave anonymous and allow him to come out himself if he so chooses. However, this member continues to think that BTCD is some sort of conspiracy that has been concocted to enhance the value of NXT. This member continues to believe this even after explanations about how NXT just provides platform with which BTCD is built over and has nothing to do with original NXT developers or the currency itself.
The situation escalated after an argument with the web designer after which this individual threatened me that he "could just hit ctrl alt delete and walk away", and said that he had done so on the past to another coin.
Bottom Line:
Regarding the pre-mine, should we have been more transparent in the beginning. The short answer: Yes. However, I will blame myself because I only wanted to protect TorrnA and BTCDdev from any criticism who both put in a ton of work and deserve every BTCD they received from the pre-mine.
In addition, I'm not going to sit idly by while an individual attempts use threats and blackmail to achieve some sense of control and extort funds for their own gain. This is not in the spirit of what BTCD is all about. For the most part the development of BTCD has remained mostly "ego" free which is how we'd like to keep it. If development team members can't agree to this, then they have no place on the development team.
Lastly, yes, we are asking for donations. Donations are all being carefully recorded and held by TorrnA, who I can vouch for as a very trustworthy individual. All bounty payments going forward will be completely transparent and divulged to the community.
i never blackmailed any dev i just asked for what i think my work worths so far and future developement, if someone can receive 1k BTCD for this http://oi61.tinypic.com/33ttet0.jpg i think that i should get more than 0 BTCD for work done and continuig to work here, i yet asked about premine and about 2 weeks ago i was told it was kept for james but now it seems things changed and its not keept, btw the actuall premine was 1.5% from 1.6M coins that should have been in PoW
The estimated value of the BTCD that the three got from the premine is <1 BTC for most of the PoW period. If anybody has any problems with this other than yourself, I would be surprised. Now it is curious to me that you are complaining about 1000 BTCD given to what looks to me like professional graphic designer. What was the value at the time? 1000 BTCD today is different than several weeks ago. If you are volunteering to work and then decide you want to become a paid contractor midstream, then this is your decision. Maybe if you had purchased BTCD on the open market when it was cheap like other key contributors (also showing faith in your own project), then some envy over somebody else getting paid would not be an issue?
Care to explain what NXT txid 17945798072342483012 is?
I had sent you 500 NXTprivacy directly as confirmation of your work and while this is not the same as 1000 BTCD, it was also clear that there would be more after work was completed. Whether your work is worth more or less than what some other paid contractor is getting is a judgement call. I trust Azeh's judgement on such matters and since you cannot get over the horrible injustice that you have been subjected to, it is best that you leave. I wish you luck in the future and if you decide to keep posting here, please stay with the facts.
Goodbye.
James
EDIT: i never asked for the free asset, but it seems i received it when i questioned the NXT benefits from your work here
Also, i think you have things a bit twisted around. I have been working on my assets for all this year, which represents many manyears of ordinary coders and I am putting them inside BTCD and sharing revenues. Since you do not like this, I can make it so your 30K BTCD dont get these dividends. Is that your preference?
Have you seen MGW? It is already one of the top exchanges by daily trading volumes.
Please if you want to start some FUD, just sell all your BTCD now. many were expecting it to drop to .005 and since we are retesting .007 the only way that will happen is for some WH to dump.
To have 2.5% of BTCD and to be acting so petty and jealous over 1000BTCD?
You cannot at the same time be acting the way you are and still expecting BTCD to go up in price. Please dump your BTCD, we want lower prices.
James
This is the last time i'll address this issue, because i've basically said everything i've had to say. Except that I conveniently forgot to mention that you received nxtprivacy as compensation, so yet you set yourself up for that one.
However, you continue to have a disregard for facts. It had nothing to do with him being BTCDdev's friend because this was my call. I paid him 1000 BTCD of my personal funds.
Now, I'd kindly ask everyone to get back on topic and not let this thread devolve into a petty quarrel.
IceColdTommy, if you want to continue to contribute and add value to the thread then go right ahead.
I'd also call on others to not be baited into this argument any longer. Members can already glean the information from what has been said before and make their own judgments
Sure i will also address here last time and just post the proof where i blackmailed you
i am sorry i couldn't be more like you and sell my soul for profit
Seems i don't belong here and never will
Maybe we should also translate to some other major languages?
Shall I get some price quotes from professional high quality translation services or is it not necessary to translate into more languages atm?
You can get translations done for pretty much every language on fiverr.com very reasonably priced. I have used them in the past with great results.
Spanish would be good. South America is increasingly interested in crypto (I know some countries speak Portugese, but the majority can at least read Spanish)
BitcoinDark Block Explorer: http://stakexplorer.com:1234
Enjoy it.
Donations to R9kZxVTw2hk4oU8cKbSPcjFxnE7wBf1rWr are appreciated.
just checked my a/c using the Explorer and got a nasty surprise - the balance showing was approx half what it should have been. Reasoning (or more like fervently hoping) I hadn't been hacked - why would any hacker leave half the balance? - I opened my wallet, waited 5 mins for it to sync (seemed longer somehow) to find the entire balance showing correctly.
Unless it's my wallet that's wrong, it must be the Explorer - they can't both be right
These sort of shocks I can do without
The balance will only be correct on a fully synched wallet.
the wallet is fully synched and I've just searched the a/c again in the explorer with the same result as before - i.e. balance shown in the explorer is approx half what's actually in the wallet.
The total received figure and the number of transactions in is correct but the number of transactions out is incorrect (the search results refer to 2 t/actions out totalling 462.96 when in fact there have been 5 t/actions out totalling 11.1).
I have checked the development fund address, and its balance is 1012.237 BTCD, which should be right.
So I think you may misunderstand the stake amount and balance listed in the stake block explorer.
btcd is 15th on coinmarketcap with 4,000,000$. u know what that means.
What does it mean?
hodl.
Not wishing to interfere with the current debate it's been interesting to say the least...and congrates to dev team......love your work 
However my wallet is still chewing way too much data to leave it open for staking.....I know I've only got open it and sync a couple of times a day to increase weight.
That being said it does not help maintain the network doing it like that......I would really like to be told how to block nodes in wallet, I can't find any add/remove nodes command
I know I'm far from the smartest guy......If they ever release a coin with proof of stupidity it'll have my picture on it. So if anybody can tell me how to go about it I will be very grateful
Jon
do you have access to a different machine? our tests are not seeing any such massive bandwidth usage, so we are thinking maybe it is some other program? so if a different computer does same thing, we can narrow problem downHowever my wallet is still chewing way too much data to leave it open for staking.....I know I've only got open it and sync a couple of times a day to increase weight.
That being said it does not help maintain the network doing it like that......I would really like to be told how to block nodes in wallet, I can't find any add/remove nodes command
I know I'm far from the smartest guy......If they ever release a coin with proof of stupidity it'll have my picture on it. So if anybody can tell me how to go about it I will be very grateful
Jon
Have installed every thing on a different computer after monitoring for 20 minutes 9.27 Megabytes of data times 72 = 667.24 megs in 24 hours, it still seems too much to me
Jon
You have raised an interesting point. I am currently out in the country staking via my laptop and using my phone as a hotspot. I think I have 2 GB left on my plan. How long do you estimate that 2 GB to be swallowed?
Not sure about your net speed or anything but for that would take me 2 to 3 days
Jon
BitcoinDark Block Explorer: http://stakexplorer.com:1234
Enjoy it.
Donations to R9kZxVTw2hk4oU8cKbSPcjFxnE7wBf1rWr are appreciated.
just checked my a/c using the Explorer and got a nasty surprise - the balance showing was approx half what it should have been. Reasoning (or more like fervently hoping) I hadn't been hacked - why would any hacker leave half the balance? - I opened my wallet, waited 5 mins for it to sync (seemed longer somehow) to find the entire balance showing correctly.
Unless it's my wallet that's wrong, it must be the Explorer - they can't both be right
These sort of shocks I can do without
The balance will only be correct on a fully synched wallet.
the wallet is fully synched and I've just searched the a/c again in the explorer with the same result as before - i.e. balance shown in the explorer is approx half what's actually in the wallet.
The total received figure and the number of transactions in is correct but the number of transactions out is incorrect (the search results refer to 2 t/actions out totalling 462.96 when in fact there have been 5 t/actions out totalling 11.1).
Darkpaper is quite impressive,can those functions works out?
Question: Why did BTCD set the max coin days unlimited?
Code:
unsigned int nStakeMaxAge = -1; // BitcoinDark - unlimited
BitcoinDark Block Explorer: http://stakexplorer.com:1234
Enjoy it.
Donations to R9kZxVTw2hk4oU8cKbSPcjFxnE7wBf1rWr are appreciated.
just checked my a/c using the Explorer and got a nasty surprise - the balance showing was approx half what it should have been. Reasoning (or more like fervently hoping) I hadn't been hacked - why would any hacker leave half the balance? - I opened my wallet, waited 5 mins for it to sync (seemed longer somehow) to find the entire balance showing correctly.
Unless it's my wallet that's wrong, it must be the Explorer - they can't both be right
These sort of shocks I can do without
The block chain is updated to the latest block. I'm sorry I can't tell what mistakes because I have no BTCD at hand and I can't confirm it.
Maybe we should also translate to some other major languages?
Shall I get some price quotes from professional high quality translation services or is it not necessary to translate into more languages atm?
You can get translations done for pretty much every language on fiverr.com very reasonably priced. I have used them in the past with great results.
Not wishing to interfere with the current debate it's been interesting to say the least...and congrates to dev team......love your work
However my wallet is still chewing way too much data to leave it open for staking.....I know I've only got open it and sync a couple of times a day to increase weight.
That being said it does not help maintain the network doing it like that......I would really like to be told how to block nodes in wallet, I can't find any add/remove nodes command
I know I'm far from the smartest guy......If they ever release a coin with proof of stupidity it'll have my picture on it. So if anybody can tell me how to go about it I will be very grateful
Jon
do you have access to a different machine? our tests are not seeing any such massive bandwidth usage, so we are thinking maybe it is some other program? so if a different computer does same thing, we can narrow problem downHowever my wallet is still chewing way too much data to leave it open for staking.....I know I've only got open it and sync a couple of times a day to increase weight.
That being said it does not help maintain the network doing it like that......I would really like to be told how to block nodes in wallet, I can't find any add/remove nodes command
I know I'm far from the smartest guy......If they ever release a coin with proof of stupidity it'll have my picture on it. So if anybody can tell me how to go about it I will be very grateful
Jon
Have installed every thing on a different computer after monitoring for 20 minutes 9.27 Megabytes of data times 72 = 667.24 megs in 24 hours, it still seems too much to me
Jon
You have raised an interesting point. I am currently out in the country staking via my laptop and using my phone as a hotspot. I think I have 2 GB left on my plan. How long do you estimate that 2 GB to be swallowed?
BitcoinDark Block Explorer: http://stakexplorer.com:1234
Enjoy it.
Donations to R9kZxVTw2hk4oU8cKbSPcjFxnE7wBf1rWr are appreciated.
just checked my a/c using the Explorer and got a nasty surprise - the balance showing was approx half what it should have been. Reasoning (or more like fervently hoping) I hadn't been hacked - why would any hacker leave half the balance? - I opened my wallet, waited 5 mins for it to sync (seemed longer somehow) to find the entire balance showing correctly.
Unless it's my wallet that's wrong, it must be the Explorer - they can't both be right
These sort of shocks I can do without
The balance will only be correct on a fully synched wallet.
BitcoinDark Block Explorer: http://stakexplorer.com:1234
Enjoy it.
Donations to R9kZxVTw2hk4oU8cKbSPcjFxnE7wBf1rWr are appreciated.
just checked my a/c using the Explorer and got a nasty surprise - the balance showing was approx half what it should have been. Reasoning (or more like fervently hoping) I hadn't been hacked - why would any hacker leave half the balance? - I opened my wallet, waited 5 mins for it to sync (seemed longer somehow) to find the entire balance showing correctly.
Unless it's my wallet that's wrong, it must be the Explorer - they can't both be right
These sort of shocks I can do without
Maybe we should also translate to some other major languages?
Shall I get some price quotes from professional high quality translation services or is it not necessary to translate into more languages atm?
I really doubt that we will find people who do it for free as it is a lot of work and requires someone at least semi professional. I think we dont need it right now, english and chinese should be enough for a while.
I am a native spanish & english speaker... dont know if that will help but Id translate it for free.
btcd is 15th on coinmarketcap with 4,000,000$. u know what that means.
What does it mean?
Is there any way I can help? I can code in most languages? I think this is the crypto that I most like... I think.. I have some ideas but am nervous to just throw them out there .. and im noob to the group.
Does BTCD have an irc?
do you know C?Does BTCD have an irc?
any examples of your code, eg. on github?
Alternatively can you get stuff to compile on Windows or Mac?
Not for 11 years :/ but I think I can.. and yes i can compile or cross compile. Not much on github since the last 5-6 yrs ive mainly just read documentations. I can help in any way however doesnt have to be code or code related. I have spent the better half of the last month reading and I feel you guys are on the right track. so any help i can give id be happy. My specialty is regular expressions and scripting languages like php/perl/js.
btcd is 15th on coinmarketcap with 4,000,000$. u know what that means.
While on this topic, will there be an indicator for ‘teleport system status’ in the client, such as number of privacy servers currently running? Just to give users peace of mind that everything they need is ready.
I can provide the raw data to the GUI. As to all the fancy graphics, etc. that is not meEven if it was just a number to glance at before sending. Because we are relying on something outside of the clients, I think to see something physical would be good. Not a crucial issue at this stage. Thanks.
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