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Topic: BTCguild issues? (Read 8549 times)

sr. member
Activity: 291
Merit: 250
June 14, 2011, 01:35:02 AM
#41
Long blocks happen to all pools.  Deepbit is such a massive pool, that the time it takes for them to hash a "long block" is still considerably shorter than most other pools.  They just have more horesepower and can speed through the long blocks faster.  THe better comparison is the numbers of shares to complete a block.  This equates pools together and removes the time factor since it is a product of the hashing capability.

Check this page:
http://www.btcguild.com/blocks.php

and this page:

https://deepbit.net/stats

Now, you want to compare the number of shares, not the time. 

Also, its been said many times, all pools are affected by variability, and the probability of getting short blocks is going to be the same for you regardless of which pool you mine in. 

In a nutshell,  deepbit can has blocks faster due to their huge capacity (3.1 THash/sec) but you will see proporationally smaller rewards at deepbit on those blocks since you are a smaller portion of the work done.  So, you will get smaller rewards at a faster rate.

Now, at BTCGuild, you will see longer hash times since the hashing power is less (1.3 THash/sec).  BTCGuild has less than half the power of deepbit, so naturally it take the pool longer to hash a block.....but heres the kicker.... your rewards for that block will be higher than what you would get at deepbit...since you have a higher proportion of the work.  So, in a nutshell, you will take longer to hash a block but you get more rewards once a block is solved.

In the long run, its all a wash.  IF you want fast, small daily payouts, mine at deepbit as compared to BTCGuild. 

Honestly, 24 or 48 hours is NOT A GOOD WINDOW to measure 2 pools against. If you absolutely must compare pool rewards and success of block hash, you need to do a comparison of at least 7 or more days.   

So, choose the pool that meets how quick you wwant your payouts to be (as mentioned above) and any other features you like.  Such as web front end, fees, and security.  You are going to see the same amount of BTC returns from any of them (not counting any fee differential of course).
full member
Activity: 124
Merit: 100
June 14, 2011, 01:21:17 AM
#40
I also tried this pool a couple of days ago and left for deepbit because of too long blocks/low rewards...

the problem is that mining clients apparently don't do any kind of checks whether the the smaller jobs they are working on end up in any new blocks found... is this even possible?

hence the pool software might be so much broken that it would not distribute found blocks... so all those long blocks we see could be actually several found blocks
sr. member
Activity: 291
Merit: 250
June 14, 2011, 01:09:03 AM
#39
right now it looks as if this block is taking almost 4 hours to solve.  You wont get any rewards until the block is solved.  Also, if you are donating less than 2.5% you wont get any rewards from previously solved blocks (the rewards wont go into the "confirmed" column) until the block has been confirmed across the bitcoin network.
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
June 14, 2011, 12:55:04 AM
#38
Block share counts, times, and rewards are now back in order.  There was a bug in the way I handled the list of the block generations for the 3 servers, and the EU server was overriding the US East server's list, rather than adding onto the main list.  As usual, this only caused a temporary problem in displaying accurate stats.  The backend is very strong and is never overwritten by the frontend when performing reward calculations, so your historical data remained safe for recalculating the rounds.

I'm still looking at 0 rewards for 4-6 hours, maybe more. Is this issue display only or do I need to switch back to deepbit? I'm contributing around 6Mhash/second
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1003
June 12, 2011, 10:22:40 PM
#37
could just be a difficult block. Some of them took 3 hours

I'm pointing my 410 MHash/s to eu.btcguild.com since 4 hours now and earned 0.01366009 BTC. Something is still wrong there, at least for my account...
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
June 12, 2011, 09:44:45 PM
#36
I'm pointing my 410 MHash/s to eu.btcguild.com since 4 hours now and earned 0.01366009 BTC. Something is still wrong there, at least for my account...
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
June 11, 2011, 01:53:40 PM
#35
I'm new to btcguild (a tentative move from another mining team) and trying to understand why the number of shares that I show solved on my desktop, the pool block history and the my account page don't add up.

Right now, the "my account" page shows 43 total shares solved, of which 2 are from "this round". This suggests that I should have 41 shares from previous rounds. When I go to "block statistics" and add up "my shares", I get a total of 23 (including from unconfirmed blocks). Am I misunderstanding something here?
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
June 09, 2011, 01:22:38 PM
#34
This is why I point my 4.8 Ghash at the Guild and give 2.5%. Awesome customer service and Eleuthria is on top of any issues as soon as he finds out about them. I'll be adding another 1.4 Ghash in the next 24 hours.  Wink

+100
full member
Activity: 180
Merit: 100
June 09, 2011, 12:30:59 PM
#33
This is why I point my 4.8 Ghash at the Guild and give 2.5%. Awesome customer service and Eleuthria is on top of any issues as soon as he finds out about them. I'll be adding another 1.4 Ghash in the next 24 hours.  Wink
full member
Activity: 217
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June 09, 2011, 11:49:05 AM
#32
all fixed now, thanks!
full member
Activity: 217
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June 09, 2011, 11:34:39 AM
#31
you sure my account is fixed? I switched over and see my miners are earning shares but nothing is changing in "my account"
full member
Activity: 217
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June 09, 2011, 11:10:51 AM
#30
awesome, thanks for fixing it so quickly man, I will switch my miners back over now!
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
June 09, 2011, 11:08:26 AM
#29
Block share counts, times, and rewards are now back in order.  There was a bug in the way I handled the list of the block generations for the 3 servers, and the EU server was overriding the US East server's list, rather than adding onto the main list.  As usual, this only caused a temporary problem in displaying accurate stats.  The backend is very strong and is never overwritten by the frontend when performing reward calculations, so your historical data remained safe for recalculating the rounds.
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 100
June 09, 2011, 11:01:50 AM
#28
Are the displayed shares per block in the blockexplorer also fixed? Is it right, that there are more shares submitted fot the 45minutes Block than for the 5hrs block?

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   129532    2011-06-09 14:36:34    5:28:05    76722    52 until confirmed    136   0.08863168   0.00000000    
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   Processing    2011-06-09 14:13:09    0:45:51    560641    113 until confirmed    868   0.07741139   0.00000000    
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newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
June 09, 2011, 10:55:35 AM
#27
Rewards are being fixed right now on the blocks.

Glad to see you're working on this. I've been watching my stats and wondering why it hasn't looked right.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
June 09, 2011, 10:47:23 AM
#26
Rewards are being fixed right now on the blocks.

Thanks for the quick fix. How was that good night sleep.. Grin
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
June 09, 2011, 10:44:48 AM
#25
Rewards are being fixed right now on the blocks.
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 100
June 09, 2011, 10:41:02 AM
#24
okay. thats good. i got a real shock right now seeing that i should only get 0,01 per block. where i should get ten times the amount.


legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
June 09, 2011, 10:37:45 AM
#23
Working on the fix right now, something went wrong when I was asleep (as usual).  The last 4 blocks have not yet been allocated to users.  Looking into why that is right now.  Your share data for all 4 rounds is still there, so it's just an issue of getting everybody's accounts credited for the 4 blocks and getting them into the stats.

Thank you for addressing it, hope you will get it sorted soon.
I've enabled .5% donation
full member
Activity: 205
Merit: 100
June 09, 2011, 10:36:18 AM
#22
Sure its called variance, but for me its called making money Smiley
If a pool isn't giving me the return I can expect at another, I am outta there.  I mined at BTCguild for quite a while, and it seems like every round they have is a "long round".  Sure their was some short ones sprinkled in there, but on average, their rounds are horrible. LOL.  I switched to deepbit and made more in the last 12 hours than i did in 3 days at BTCguild

I agree this is starting to worry me more then anything it seems like the rounds are going for hours and I'm not sure if that is just a reportin bug on the site or what.  I'll give it till I get home today to see if things change (as I can't change the computer till then) and if they do I'll stick with it if not I'll change to another pool for a bit.

FYI the current round says it has been 5 hours which I don't think is accurate but is making me worried.
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