Thanks for the big dividend.
I think neotrix has proven that he is trustworthy. No scammer would continue to pay dividends without collecting new funds.
Topic: [BTCT.CO] ESECURITYSABTC - page 2. (Read 6900 times)
No one calls Esecurity a scam. A lot people (including me) assume it because you haven't give any reason why you are more than 60% for a loan. There are cheaper ways to get a loan for a well respected companies like Esecurity S.A.. It's is nothing personal it is just that the prirate scammed many members of this community and he also paid a higher interest than usual and didn't disclose why.
BTW: Esecurity is one of the best rated assets on LTC-Global and BTCT.
But I understand your decision. It is awesome for all shareholders and bad for everyone else.
BTW: Esecurity is one of the best rated assets on LTC-Global and BTCT.
But I understand your decision. It is awesome for all shareholders and bad for everyone else.
The business model was quite simple and explained in contract. I wont explain it again but was really simple. Why Im able to give back such dividend ? Cause server bring me more than I give and the fees for network are same with 50 server...or 100 servers....Easy to do the math and also conclude each server plugged and rented bring 180% in 1 year (In worst case).
Why I didnt took a loan ? Usual loan to a bank are not easy, as esecurity is registered offshore and we use also a offshore bank. They are business bank, and loan are not their business. Then I could loan on public market cheaper. Right. If you remind Im supporting LTC since the start and I decided to first loan with LTC to boost the market. Thinking I will have to buy then monthly for like 500 usd of ltc.
Then I opened fund in btc as this business model was ok for me. It means we get new servers, and after 1 or 2 year they become our server. After we gave most of benefits to investors at start. Maybe this business model was so good for investors, and If I had offered less profits to investors ( keeping also more for me) I wont have such image today. Well thats why I say the situation was quite funny...
IMO LTC need legal entities ready to give him a shoot like I was, need to boost the market, stabilize it and grow... But If everytime a company ready to give him a shoot is also threated like any scammers anonym...you can guess they will run quickly out of crypto not ready to give some bad image to their company worthing MUCH more that all this small money story...Well I hope LTC will sucess and I will continu on project Im working on, to make it bigger...
It will be a good thing you are doing by stopping new share sales as it rewards shareholders who have shown faith by buying the asset earlier. It means you can add value to existing shares.
I dont see a problem with issuing more shares but maybe let shareholders have some inout through a motion if you wish to issue more shares in future. Its only a problem if people see more and more shares coming onto the market with no explanation but if theres a motion to expand you can point to that as the explanation. Consolidating for awhile cant hurt and brings more certainty.
Stopping new sales also proves you arent paying dividends from new share sales and should stop the rumours that have cropped up. The fact you seem to actually have a business behind the asset doesnt seem to matter to some people when 1% a week returns is unheard of in investment markets and usually signals a hyip.
div?
Few more days.
Quote
As quoted in contract, dividends are sheduled monthly ( each 1st day of each
month) The next dividend will be also issued on 1st february. This next dividend
will resume the 2 weeks dividend remaining of january. 1st march dividend will
also resume month of february dividend.
Weekly dividend was issued at my whole discretion as an incentive for investors
which is now useless as no more share will be issued by me. Only share available
are now on public market.
Regards, Neotrix
month) The next dividend will be also issued on 1st february. This next dividend
will resume the 2 weeks dividend remaining of january. 1st march dividend will
also resume month of february dividend.
Weekly dividend was issued at my whole discretion as an incentive for investors
which is now useless as no more share will be issued by me. Only share available
are now on public market.
Regards, Neotrix
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Thanks. 
This is quite an interesting asset. Can someone please point me to where the issuer has proven that he in fact owns KoDDos.com? He seems to have used a gmail address to register with BTC-TC. Has the exchange verified that this security is back up by koddos.com?
Yes it has been proofed many times, feel free to check yourelf admin (at) koddos.com
I used a gmail to dont mix everything...was easier to manage.
Regards, Neotrix
This is quite an interesting asset. Can someone please point me to where the issuer has proven that he in fact owns KoDDos.com? He seems to have used a gmail address to register with BTC-TC. Has the exchange verified that this security is back up by koddos.com?
You can send an email to [email protected]. Some people from litecointalk.eu verified it.
This is quite an interesting asset. Can someone please point me to where the issuer has proven that he in fact owns KoDDos.com? He seems to have used a gmail address to register with BTC-TC. Has the exchange verified that this security is back up by koddos.com?
No one calls Esecurity a scam. A lot people (including me) assume it because you haven't give any reason why you are more than 60% for a loan. There are cheaper ways to get a loan for a well respected companies like Esecurity S.A.. It's is nothing personal it is just that the prirate scammed many members of this community and he also paid a higher interest than usual and didn't disclose why.
BTW: Esecurity is one of the best rated assets on LTC-Global and BTCT.
But I understand your decision. It is awesome for all shareholders and bad for everyone else.
BTW: Esecurity is one of the best rated assets on LTC-Global and BTCT.
But I understand your decision. It is awesome for all shareholders and bad for everyone else.
The business model was quite simple and explained in contract. I wont explain it again but was really simple. Why Im able to give back such dividend ? Cause server bring me more than I give and the fees for network are same with 50 server...or 100 servers....Easy to do the math and also conclude each server plugged and rented bring 180% in 1 year (In worst case).
Why I didnt took a loan ? Usual loan to a bank are not easy, as esecurity is registered offshore and we use also a offshore bank. They are business bank, and loan are not their business. Then I could loan on public market cheaper. Right. If you remind Im supporting LTC since the start and I decided to first loan with LTC to boost the market. Thinking I will have to buy then monthly for like 500 usd of ltc.
Then I opened fund in btc as this business model was ok for me. It means we get new servers, and after 1 or 2 year they become our server. After we gave most of benefits to investors at start. Maybe this business model was so good for investors, and If I had offered less profits to investors ( keeping also more for me) I wont have such image today. Well thats why I say the situation was quite funny...
IMO LTC need legal entities ready to give him a shoot like I was, need to boost the market, stabilize it and grow... But If everytime a company ready to give him a shoot is also threated like any scammers anonym...you can guess they will run quickly out of crypto not ready to give some bad image to their company worthing MUCH more that all this small money story...Well I hope LTC will sucess and I will continu on project Im working on, to make it bigger...
I am sorry to hear that you are stop putting new shares on the market. I know that being accused with different charges by the loud once are just a disaster, since they "assume" everything in his thoughts which is extended from a little clue is right. And I have expereinced that before when I was doing my "Know a Bit More" project.
Yet the loud onces aren't the majority, in my case, my ignorant to them did bring a success at my side. And why give up a business with just a pebble in the middle of your road. And for the accuser, please do something more constructive, like digging down deep those guys who owe, spam the forum before GLBSE closes etc.
Since the start of this, I've been treating ESECURITYSABTC a steady stock to gain dividend and trade a bit on the minor price fluctuations. Wish you still success with it despite little shares on market
Yet the loud onces aren't the majority, in my case, my ignorant to them did bring a success at my side. And why give up a business with just a pebble in the middle of your road. And for the accuser, please do something more constructive, like digging down deep those guys who owe, spam the forum before GLBSE closes etc.
Since the start of this, I've been treating ESECURITYSABTC a steady stock to gain dividend and trade a bit on the minor price fluctuations. Wish you still success with it despite little shares on market
Thank you for this support and understanding. As said previously I can assume to loan less money for now and all those accusation dont give me the motivation to offer more server for investors. This bond is IMO the best ratio dividend, one of the only one with issuer having something real ( company, hardware costing hundreds of thousand dollars) and It still receiving more and more suspisions also giving a bad image for my company. In all those condittions why I should issue more shares? All is said, anyway thank again for your support and good mind. Its good to see some positive people.
Regards, neotrix
BTW: Esecurity is one of the best rated assets on LTC-Global and BTCT.
But I understand your decision. It is awesome for all shareholders and bad for everyone else.
I am sorry to hear that you are stop putting new shares on the market. I know that being accused with different charges by the loud once are just a disaster, since they "assume" everything in his thoughts which is extended from a little clue is right. And I have expereinced that before when I was doing my "Know a Bit More" project.
Yet the loud onces aren't the majority, in my case, my ignorant to them did bring a success at my side. And why give up a business with just a pebble in the middle of your road. And for the accuser, please do something more constructive, like digging down deep those guys who owe, spam the forum before GLBSE closes etc.
Since the start of this, I've been treating ESECURITYSABTC a steady stock to gain dividend and trade a bit on the minor price fluctuations. Wish you still success with it despite little shares on market
Yet the loud onces aren't the majority, in my case, my ignorant to them did bring a success at my side. And why give up a business with just a pebble in the middle of your road. And for the accuser, please do something more constructive, like digging down deep those guys who owe, spam the forum before GLBSE closes etc.
Since the start of this, I've been treating ESECURITYSABTC a steady stock to gain dividend and trade a bit on the minor price fluctuations. Wish you still success with it despite little shares on market
Thank you for this support and understanding. As said previously I can assume to loan less money for now and all those accusation dont give me the motivation to offer more server for investors. This bond is IMO the best ratio dividend, one of the only one with issuer having something real ( company, hardware costing hundreds of thousand dollars) and It still receiving more and more suspisions also giving a bad image for my company. In all those condittions why I should issue more shares? All is said, anyway thank again for your support and good mind. Its good to see some positive people.
Regards, neotrix
I am sorry to hear that you are stop putting new shares on the market. I know that being accused with different charges by the loud once are just a disaster, since they "assume" everything in his thoughts which is extended from a little clue is right. And I have expereinced that before when I was doing my "Know a Bit More" project.
Yet the loud onces aren't the majority, in my case, my ignorant to them did bring a success at my side. And why give up a business with just a pebble in the middle of your road. And for the accuser, please do something more constructive, like digging down deep those guys who owe, spam the forum before GLBSE closes etc.
Since the start of this, I've been treating ESECURITYSABTC a steady stock to gain dividend and trade a bit on the minor price fluctuations. Wish you still success with it despite little shares on market
Yet the loud onces aren't the majority, in my case, my ignorant to them did bring a success at my side. And why give up a business with just a pebble in the middle of your road. And for the accuser, please do something more constructive, like digging down deep those guys who owe, spam the forum before GLBSE closes etc.
Since the start of this, I've been treating ESECURITYSABTC a steady stock to gain dividend and trade a bit on the minor price fluctuations. Wish you still success with it despite little shares on market
Since I decided to stop to sell new shares, price in also now just 10-15% so expensiver and only after 1 day 
It will also allow a direct big profit for holders due no more supply... and will make all others willing to buy at normal price having to pay an overpriced amount for one share on public market...Just hope price wont be sold 200% overpriced cause I wont accept to be called scam when I will rebuy them only for 10 usd per share... Anyway deprived, and other you should be happy now you won, no more supply... It was that or I had to stop the contract as contract allow me to stop if it become no profitable for the company. Which could appear if you or some continu to claim about scam it will become very no profitable for image of my company... Well im someone honnest as i prooved it since the start and I will stay same and wont stop the contract...keeping paying dividend until end as planned.
I'm very sorry for those who was willing to enjoy this opportunity getting 1.3% or more weekly, but the communauty and some selfish ppl decided it.
Regards, Neotrix
It will also allow a direct big profit for holders due no more supply... and will make all others willing to buy at normal price having to pay an overpriced amount for one share on public market...Just hope price wont be sold 200% overpriced cause I wont accept to be called scam when I will rebuy them only for 10 usd per share... Anyway deprived, and other you should be happy now you won, no more supply... It was that or I had to stop the contract as contract allow me to stop if it become no profitable for the company. Which could appear if you or some continu to claim about scam it will become very no profitable for image of my company... Well im someone honnest as i prooved it since the start and I will stay same and wont stop the contract...keeping paying dividend until end as planned.I'm very sorry for those who was willing to enjoy this opportunity getting 1.3% or more weekly, but the communauty and some selfish ppl decided it.
Regards, Neotrix
Please respond to PM. Thanks.
Actually I dont have the wish to sell more shares, that why I didnt replied. I even cancelled someone planning to buy 30 k usd of investment. Btct.co have 2 servers sold and it will stay like this. Crypto wont have more shares sold. It will avoid accusation of scam... You can still buy share on market public also but take care to don't buy more than a price worth 25 cts usd, because it is the price of buyback.
Wait, what? The buyback price is 25ct as in $0.25 per share? How does that relate to those two parts in your btct.co contract:
Quote
Price of share : 2500 shares will be issued at total with the goal to obtain 10
usd per share on BTC/USD exchange market. Price of shares will also follow the
BTC/USD market price.
(...)
Liquidation of the Fund: When liquidation happens , 25 000 usd ( initial amount
USD invested by shareholders in the fund) will be converted to BTC by the issuer
and reversed to shareholders in order to close the fund refunding the initial
amount of USD invested by shareholders when the fund has been open.
usd per share on BTC/USD exchange market. Price of shares will also follow the
BTC/USD market price.
(...)
Liquidation of the Fund: When liquidation happens , 25 000 usd ( initial amount
USD invested by shareholders in the fund) will be converted to BTC by the issuer
and reversed to shareholders in order to close the fund refunding the initial
amount of USD invested by shareholders when the fund has been open.
I'm not accusing you. I (and others) feel more comfortable investing into a transparent and plausible venture. Trust me, I'd love investing at a ROI of 1+% per week, I just want to know why you'd pay so much, it makes no sense from a financial perspective unless you were confident of a fast return and bought back shares with the profits so as to own the servers 100% instead of paying 30% of the revenue for a very long time.
He was getting confused.
The shares on LTC GLOBAL are $0.25.
The ones on BTC.CO are $10.
Please respond to PM. Thanks.
Actually I dont have the wish to sell more shares, that why I didnt replied. I even cancelled someone planning to buy 30 k usd of investment. Btct.co have 2 servers sold and it will stay like this. Crypto wont have more shares sold. It will avoid accusation of scam... You can still buy share on market public also but take care to don't buy more than a price worth 25 cts usd, because it is the price of buyback.
Wait, what? The buyback price is 25ct as in $0.25 per share? How does that relate to those two parts in your btct.co contract:
Quote
Price of share : 2500 shares will be issued at total with the goal to obtain 10
usd per share on BTC/USD exchange market. Price of shares will also follow the
BTC/USD market price.
(...)
Liquidation of the Fund: When liquidation happens , 25 000 usd ( initial amount
USD invested by shareholders in the fund) will be converted to BTC by the issuer
and reversed to shareholders in order to close the fund refunding the initial
amount of USD invested by shareholders when the fund has been open.
usd per share on BTC/USD exchange market. Price of shares will also follow the
BTC/USD market price.
(...)
Liquidation of the Fund: When liquidation happens , 25 000 usd ( initial amount
USD invested by shareholders in the fund) will be converted to BTC by the issuer
and reversed to shareholders in order to close the fund refunding the initial
amount of USD invested by shareholders when the fund has been open.
I'm not accusing you. I (and others) feel more comfortable investing into a transparent and plausible venture. Trust me, I'd love investing at a ROI of 1+% per week, I just want to know why you'd pay so much, it makes no sense from a financial perspective unless you were confident of a fast return and bought back shares with the profits so as to own the servers 100% instead of paying 30% of the revenue for a very long time.
Sorry for mistake yes buyback is 25 cts usd for ltc, and 10 USD for btc right.
About accusation its the actual feeling of most so As said previously dont look to invest more in esecu as there is nothing more to invest. The only shares now available are the one one public market. The crypto bond will be delisted and the 57 shares will be transfered to btct.co or refunded according choice of holders. Btct.co will still have only 500 shares sold and it will still like this. For info, No I didn.t planned to buy back shares before cheaper or anything....just do the math.
Server cost 2500 usd and is rented 450 monthly wich is 4500 yearly ( + all extra protection which can make easily double this price). This is also 180% yearly in worst case. Then add cost of network...but that you have 1 or 1000 servers it still mainly same cost when you own the full network...
only electricity, location....cost a bit more but bandwidth for example is a fixed fees most of time...
As I was telling in an email sent to a potential investor of 30 000 usd... Crypto world is small world and I start to understand why...Anyway it's better for me and my company to limit this story now.
Regards, Neotrix
Please respond to PM. Thanks.
Actually I dont have the wish to sell more shares, that why I didnt replied. I even cancelled someone planning to buy 30 k usd of investment. Btct.co have 2 servers sold and it will stay like this. Crypto wont have more shares sold. It will avoid accusation of scam... You can still buy share on market public also but take care to don't buy more than a price worth 25 cts usd, because it is the price of buyback.
Wait, what? The buyback price is 25ct as in $0.25 per share? How does that relate to those two parts in your btct.co contract:
Quote
Price of share : 2500 shares will be issued at total with the goal to obtain 10
usd per share on BTC/USD exchange market. Price of shares will also follow the
BTC/USD market price.
(...)
Liquidation of the Fund: When liquidation happens , 25 000 usd ( initial amount
USD invested by shareholders in the fund) will be converted to BTC by the issuer
and reversed to shareholders in order to close the fund refunding the initial
amount of USD invested by shareholders when the fund has been open.
usd per share on BTC/USD exchange market. Price of shares will also follow the
BTC/USD market price.
(...)
Liquidation of the Fund: When liquidation happens , 25 000 usd ( initial amount
USD invested by shareholders in the fund) will be converted to BTC by the issuer
and reversed to shareholders in order to close the fund refunding the initial
amount of USD invested by shareholders when the fund has been open.
I'm not accusing you. I (and others) feel more comfortable investing into a transparent and plausible venture. Trust me, I'd love investing at a ROI of 1+% per week, I just want to know why you'd pay so much, it makes no sense from a financial perspective unless you were confident of a fast return and bought back shares with the profits so as to own the servers 100% instead of paying 30% of the revenue for a very long time.
Please respond to PM. Thanks.
Actually I dont have the wish to sell more shares, that why I didnt replied. I even cancelled someone planning to buy 30 k usd of investment. Btct.co have 2 servers sold and it will stay like this. Crypto wont have more shares sold. It will avoid accusation of scam... You can still buy share on market public also but take care to don't buy more than a price worth 25 cts usd, because it is the price of buyback.
Neotrix, how do you justify paying about 70% per year interest on this loan? No matter how I look at it, you could get a loan elsewhere for cheaper than that.
The fact, that Koddos specializes in hosting and protecting HYIP makes me wonder if you somehow got inspired by your clients.
Again, what is your justification for paying so much interest?
The fact, that Koddos specializes in hosting and protecting HYIP makes me wonder if you somehow got inspired by your clients.
Again, what is your justification for paying so much interest?
And now accusation of managing hyip ? What next ?
About hyip it still 20% of our customers only, We still host casino online, many replica shop, many games servers.
Maybe I own a casino, or a replica shop? or also a sex cam ? It become pathetic...
all justification are in contract... and have been explained 50 times in forums... Now as said all this story make me thinking about take off this opportunity for investors and let you guys invest in mining asic bond....while asic are delayed for years ...( its an example and I target nobody with this one)
Please respond to PM. Thanks.
Neotrix, how do you justify paying about 70% per year interest on this loan? No matter how I look at it, you could get a loan elsewhere for cheaper than that.
The fact, that Koddos specializes in hosting and protecting HYIP makes me wonder if you somehow got inspired by your clients.
Again, what is your justification for paying so much interest?
The fact, that Koddos specializes in hosting and protecting HYIP makes me wonder if you somehow got inspired by your clients.
Again, what is your justification for paying so much interest?
And now accusation of managing hyip ? What next ?
About hyip it still 20% of our customers only, We still host casino online, many replica shop, many games servers.
Maybe I own a casino, or a replica shop? or also a sex cam ? It become pathetic...
all justification are in contract... and have been explained 50 times in forums... Now as said all this story make me thinking about take off this opportunity for investors and let you guys invest in mining asic bond....while asic are delayed for years ...( its an example and I target nobody with this one)
I just give 30% of income of servers keeping 70% for me for management, cost of network and company...this 30% make actually 1.3%, does you guys want it lower? I can make a motion but not sure people will want a lower profit...But it fully ok for me as I will get more for the company...
What Im starting to think is I wont sell all, Thinking about stopping to sell soon. Limiting to 2 servers maybe for btc.co and 1 server for crypto. This is not an affirmation, just a thought since I need less to loan today that I was in need when opened funds 2 months ago. Additionnaly, accusation of scam start to boring me to be honnest. You guy prefer be paid by some bond 0.1% weekly and be scammed in 6 months when the individual anonym managing the bond will decide to leave...but you suspect a well know company existing since 4 years, and 5 years online because they give you so much profits. While this company couldnt scam you without break all reputation and representing much more than 100k or 150 k.... Who stupid would create a scam under his company name, with company bringing much more by year than the amount supposed scammed? Well i understand any high profits is suspect but while you have this backup in the story... It shouldnt be compared to pirate ( individual under a username "pirate" letting most aware about his final intention...
Well Dividend as been issued for today as usual.
Please find below the detail:
250 shares = 1 server
461 shares sold = 1 server + 84.4% of 1 server
monthly dividend is 135 usd / 4.34 (average number of week in one month) = 31.11 usd
Weekly dividend of one server is also 31.11 usd
31.11 usd + 84.4% of 31.11= 57.36684usd
Weekly dividend for this week is 57.36684 usd
Convertion rate BTC/USD 14
57.36684 = 4.09763142 BTC
.
Total dividend for this week : 4.09763142 btc
Dividend per share = 0.0088885714 btc
Regards, Neotrix
What Im starting to think is I wont sell all, Thinking about stopping to sell soon. Limiting to 2 servers maybe for btc.co and 1 server for crypto. This is not an affirmation, just a thought since I need less to loan today that I was in need when opened funds 2 months ago. Additionnaly, accusation of scam start to boring me to be honnest. You guy prefer be paid by some bond 0.1% weekly and be scammed in 6 months when the individual anonym managing the bond will decide to leave...but you suspect a well know company existing since 4 years, and 5 years online because they give you so much profits. While this company couldnt scam you without break all reputation and representing much more than 100k or 150 k.... Who stupid would create a scam under his company name, with company bringing much more by year than the amount supposed scammed? Well i understand any high profits is suspect but while you have this backup in the story... It shouldnt be compared to pirate ( individual under a username "pirate" letting most aware about his final intention...
Well Dividend as been issued for today as usual.
Please find below the detail:
250 shares = 1 server
461 shares sold = 1 server + 84.4% of 1 server
monthly dividend is 135 usd / 4.34 (average number of week in one month) = 31.11 usd
Weekly dividend of one server is also 31.11 usd
31.11 usd + 84.4% of 31.11= 57.36684usd
Weekly dividend for this week is 57.36684 usd
Convertion rate BTC/USD 14
57.36684 = 4.09763142 BTC
.
Total dividend for this week : 4.09763142 btc
Dividend per share = 0.0088885714 btc
Regards, Neotrix
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